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#177 - berentzen (06/14/2013) [-]
What a ******** !
It's YOUR life, do what makes YOU happy.
And I think it's better to have this flower for some days then have it never.
#188 to #177 - doubleac (06/14/2013) [-]
How can selfishness be loving? He's saying don't force someone to be with you, because if you do they aren't free to love you, they're losing who they are to please you. They lose their hearts because of your selfish, obsessed one.
By all means, do what you want, but if you do that, don't call it love.
User avatar #220 to #188 - HeartOfTheDL (06/14/2013) [-]
Basement girl #10 hasn't lost her heart yet. Though to be fair I keep all the the others in jars so I can have their hearts forever.
#222 to #220 - doubleac (06/14/2013) [-]
Aha oh wow
#213 to #188 - whippersnapper (06/14/2013) [-]
If she wont be loyal then who wants her, let her go, but if she wants to stay, dont let her stay either unless she promises to be yours alone.
#215 to #213 - doubleac (06/14/2013) [-]
I agree, love has to be mutual and free, with both people making a promise to honor and care for another.
I think that second part of what you said is important,"dont let her stay either unless she promises to be yours alone", I think it shows maturity, because it shows care for her well being, as well as your own, because you're not going to lead her on, or vice versa.
#216 to #215 - whippersnapper (06/14/2013) [-]
You have to put your expectations and requirements up front, I wont get started down a road with someone who doesn't intend to go all the way with me, and by 'go all the way' I mean a life together, not just nookie. It is popular just to have short relationships these days but that is not how it should be, when you go through the most intense experiences of your life with someone, those are treasures that cant be fully shared with anyone else but those you went through it with.

I should hope I sound mature by now, I am nearly 40.
#219 to #216 - doubleac (06/14/2013) [-]
Aha I agree, I don't look for relationships at the moment, I have no need or desire to.
Plus I have to fix my own problems before I drag someone else into this life, so I can face what will then become," our problems". Don't worry about sounding mature, just be you :p *coming from a 17 year old who has been mistaken to be a 40 year old for various reasons*
#227 to #219 - whippersnapper (06/14/2013) [-]
I think you misunderstand what I am saying. I dont think you would agree if you understood.

Good idea to square your own life away before trying to share it though. I can tell you this, a relationship without loyalty is a crime that hurts a lot of people.
#265 to #227 - doubleac (06/15/2013) [-]
Maintaining a good healthy relationship between two people who know what they're worth, and make clear their boundaries. If one of those two people has lesser boundaries or aren't serious/loyal, then it's best to leave, because one shouldn't waste their time. Am i right?

I said that i don't want to get into a serious relationship for personal reasons, aha i wasn't very clear i study Theology of the Body by Pope JP2, and follow the basic rules that a relationship has to be four things: Free, Total, Faithful, and Fruitful.
I find so many teens break their hearts, and to me, this is a way to make life and searching for love more enjoyable.
#268 to #265 - whippersnapper (06/15/2013) [-]
Yes, I agree that you should not waste your time on a disloyal relationship and if you are not ready to be loyal you shouldn't waste anyone else time either. As for true commitment, it is entered freely but the entering of it is the very act of voluntarily forsaking certain freedoms, commitment is like a contract, you give up one thing to get another thing. Freedom is not for the sake of just having it any more than money is for the sake of just having a pocket full of paper, it is for spending, it is a currency. But when you buy something with it, you have chosen that that dollar will go to nothing else. The kind of person that buys a fifth avenue or a baby ruth and eats it, then reaches in the till and takes the dollar back and then goes to buy another store's candy, well we know what kind of a person that is. A lot of people today think loyalty and commitment are 'obsolete' and that it is better to just have flings then split up when it gets boring or challenging or requires that there be compromise, but the truth is that they are just being shallow and lazy and selfish. They will never experience the deepest and best and they will always have many bad consequences for treating people like pawns in their game.

Take care, vaya con DIOS
User avatar #192 to #188 - berentzen (06/14/2013) [-]
It's a ******* flower!
#198 to #192 - berentzen (06/14/2013) [-]
I'm ******* tired of ******** quotes and metaphor that cut reality as they want so that it matches in a ******* sentence to sound good and wise. Life isn't that easy to be handled by what other people said years ago.
#208 to #198 - doubleac (06/14/2013) [-]
In my opinion, life was a lot harder back then, and is still currently very difficult depending on which country and area of the world you live in.
Also, it's not like it's something that dies out, it gets passed on. I can't really see myself telling my kids," Hey don't listen to anyone cause there is nothing you can learn from them".
I think conversation is best, but when you're dealing with definitions you really can't be a relativist. I think there must be mutual ground, a place to start, in order to grow.

If not, you may end up a crazy old man with no friends
#204 to #198 - doubleac (06/14/2013) [-]
You replied to yourself?
#195 to #192 - doubleac (06/14/2013) [-]
It's an allegory!
#194 to #192 - anonymous (06/14/2013) [-]
It's a metaphor.
User avatar #173 - sorrowofdaedalus (06/14/2013) [-]
This guy clearly does not understand the joy of a BDSM relationship.

"A relationship is a matter of You need to login to view this link truly own something though, you must put part of yourself in to it, you must let it own a piece of you, because it is through that piece that you exert changes. "

-A happy man.
#214 to #173 - whippersnapper (06/14/2013) [-]
You are talking my language.
#176 to #173 - ragged (06/14/2013) [-]
Are you saying I have to 						****					 something to love it?
Are you saying I have to **** something to love it?
#179 to #178 - ragged (06/14/2013) [-]
Are you sure? That quote said I had to put part of myself into the thing I love. Sounds like I should **** it.
User avatar #180 to #179 - sorrowofdaedalus (06/14/2013) [-]
Yeah, I'm absolutely sure.

I mean, don't get me wrong, ******* can happen, but it has nothing to do with the quote.
#182 to #180 - ragged (06/14/2013) [-]
I'm pretty positive it wants me to **** something.
User avatar #183 to #182 - sorrowofdaedalus (06/14/2013) [-]
You're incorrect in that. Well, you might be partially correct. Not physically **** though. It wants you to psychologically **** something.
#184 to #183 - ragged (06/14/2013) [-]
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#1 - mraye (06/13/2013) [-]
True, but if I love rocks and pick up a rock it continues to be a rock as it does not change shape or form unless millions of years of erosion turn it into fine sand, in which case it would still continue to exist but in a smaller form, spread out across a river or even the sea: And I would still love it!
User avatar #16 to #1 - colegaleener (06/13/2013) [-]
I don't know why you're being thumbed down, I love my girlfriend the same since the day I met her and I'll continue to love her just the same.
#212 - whippersnapper (06/14/2013) [-]
No we arent flowers, we are people and when we make a pairbond we are meant to stay a pair for life and we do belong to each other.
User avatar #217 to #212 - TheseChocodiles (06/14/2013) [-]
Well aren't you fun
#221 to #217 - whippersnapper (06/14/2013) [-]
Yes I sure am, there is no greater pleasure than true union and companionship with someone you know will always be there and that you will always be there for too.

Screwing around is shallow and sad, real dedicated love is awesome.

User avatar #226 to #221 - TheseChocodiles (06/14/2013) [-]
you sound like a robot.
#229 to #226 - whippersnapper (06/14/2013) [-]
No, I sound like a man who has been married for 10 years, you, on the other hand, sound like a little kid who has no idea what the hell he is talking about.
User avatar #231 to #229 - TheseChocodiles (06/14/2013) [-]
Lol I have literally expressed no opinions towards the subject of love and yet you make that comment. Well done at taking advantage of age patriarchy.

I'm 17, not a 'he', so yeah I don't really give a **** about love and I'm very happy without it right now.
All I want to say is the way you conveyed that, it was like love is the only purpose for us as human beings, ''there is no greater pleasure'', you cannot be sure of that.
I'm sure your marriage is the best and so on but we are just not on the same wavelengths, probably due to the age gap.
#233 to #231 - whippersnapper (06/14/2013) [-]
"age patriarchy" Listen smartass, you dont call a stranger a 'robot' for telling you the truth, I dont care if you are a boy or a girl, you are a rude little **** . Your generation is being taught a lot of ******** that isn't true and you are also being taught to think that because of that ******** that you are wiser than the older generations and that you different, more 'evolved' and have a better way, well, that too is ******** .

Some things are the same for every generation and love is one of them. You may 'not give a ***** about love but I am sure that the love of others is what allows you to be well fed, warm and free to come on the internet and insult people you do not know. As for romantic love, the greatest pleasure a person can know in that department comes from dedicated commitment and that is a fact whether you ever experience enough to figure it out or not.

I have a little advice for you little girl, people do not like to be called derogatory names for giving good advice. You may think you are clever but the truth is that you are just sheltered and spoiled, that **** doesn't fly in the real world.
User avatar #239 to #233 - TheseChocodiles (06/14/2013) [-]
Don't call me little girl.
Don't call me smartass.
Don't call me a rude little **** .
And then don't slander me for calling you derogatory names.

I was only talking about romantic love so your point on general love is void.
As for what you said, okay that's what you think and it's fine but I am very happy without it.
You have no idea if you are telling the truth or not. That is something that is purely subjective and you are trying to pass it off as truth.
#240 to #239 - whippersnapper (06/14/2013) [-]
Don't open the can if you can't eat whats in it squirt.
User avatar #241 to #240 - TheseChocodiles (06/14/2013) [-]
Well done old man.
#259 to #240 - hadzibg (06/14/2013) [-]
- Talks about love and joy   
   
   
- Thinks he is superior to a 17 year old girl because he is married and knows "true love"   
   
   
- Insults her to prove his point   
   
I'm sorry, but you don't sound like you've known love at all. Only possessiveness. You're on an ego trip. I'm sure you think your advice is good advice, but you're not talking about love, because as satisfying as it might sound, love is uncertain. Love is free. That's the beauty of it. You may love one your wife one day, and then suddenly it's over! But the problem is people can't accept that, so they play a game of domination called marriage. Please don't call your possessiveness love. It is you who are sheltering yourself behind the dead institution of marriage. You can't accept that your love may pass one day, so you signed papers to make sure it lasts forever. Also, how good can your approach to life be when you flamed a young girl over the internet for having a different opinion? Of course, you will take this as an insult, and try to prove me wrong too. Too bad mate, after all, you're just a victim of a certain set of rules imposed on you by the society and your parents.
- Talks about love and joy


- Thinks he is superior to a 17 year old girl because he is married and knows "true love"


- Insults her to prove his point

I'm sorry, but you don't sound like you've known love at all. Only possessiveness. You're on an ego trip. I'm sure you think your advice is good advice, but you're not talking about love, because as satisfying as it might sound, love is uncertain. Love is free. That's the beauty of it. You may love one your wife one day, and then suddenly it's over! But the problem is people can't accept that, so they play a game of domination called marriage. Please don't call your possessiveness love. It is you who are sheltering yourself behind the dead institution of marriage. You can't accept that your love may pass one day, so you signed papers to make sure it lasts forever. Also, how good can your approach to life be when you flamed a young girl over the internet for having a different opinion? Of course, you will take this as an insult, and try to prove me wrong too. Too bad mate, after all, you're just a victim of a certain set of rules imposed on you by the society and your parents.

#267 to #259 - whippersnapper (06/15/2013) [-]
Yeah, after many many girlfriends, flings, whores and three long term relationships, two of which lasting over ten years, one ending in death and one that is for life, I need to be told about love and romance by people whose navels are still healing from the cord being cut. Yes, you are the wise ones, you watch tv and went to school so you now know it all, your the experts and everything I said was wrong.

Oh, and the evil old man 'insulted' that poor baby girl.Well, I dont appreciate being called names, firstly because I didnt start by calling anyone a name and I was in turn called a name simply for posing an opinion which was outside the little prescripted leftist paradigm she has been programed with, and secondly because being called a 'robot' is very offensive, it implies that all my rare, hard won and unusually deep experience counts for dick and that I am just an unthinking product of tradition who cant see the 'real' and 'broader' 'truth' because of my 'indoctrination', it implies that I am a simpleton while that mental infant is the sagacious wise one and that, my dear, is ******** and I take an offense to it. So, as with all gifts, wanted or unwanted, receiving puts me in the giving mood, she insulted me, so I became very candid, yet no less accurate, in my assessment of her.

This generation needs to learn some manners and I am highly motivated to offer my tutelage to all worthy applicants. Now, you say marriage is a 'dead institution' meaning that you believe the idea of a lifelong commitment to a loyal pairbonding is illogical and generally a drag. History, biology, psychology and logic are calling collect to let you know that is ******** . I had to learn that the hard way and unfortunately it sounds like you will too, I get no satisfaction from the idea of how miserable you will be or how miserable you will make others but i know you can't hear me right now. You have been taught to think that these things are 'obsolete' and 'unfun' but they are the key
#38 - alucord (06/13/2013) [-]
Don't pick the flowers!
#27 - alltipswelcome (06/13/2013) [-]
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User avatar #14 - theantihipster (06/13/2013) [-]
Well **** , bastard's never owned a vase.
#237 - hopskotch (06/14/2013) [-]
This post is about not being overbearing in a relationship. Respecting your significant other's personal time. They need "them" time as much as you need "you" time.

Like being on FJ and telling them you'll "come to bed soon."

Gotta respect the alone time as much as the together time. PEACE.
#100 - romneykun (06/14/2013) [-]
What if I pick that flower, enjoy my momentary possession and lust, then plant that flower in a pot an carry it with me for as long as it lives? I'll let it grow, and still love it, appreciate it, and all the while, have it near.

Who is to say love isn't about possessing each other?
#155 - sloot (06/14/2013) [-]
a bunch of FB whores posted this on my feed last week and now it is top spot on FJ? We have truly become pathetic... we should feel ashamed
User avatar #25 - mrbuu (06/13/2013) [-]
dude giving somebody flowers is pretty metal. i mean you take something pretty cut off its head. give it to somebody to put in a vase so they can watch it slowly wither and die.
#234 - infinitereaper (06/14/2013) [-]
It's all about watching over the things you love.
#202 - mrdrpage (06/14/2013) [-]
Wise man once said, "Listen to the Beatles and Let It Be. Unless you **** in your pants."
#157 - mrnotsosafeforwork (06/14/2013) [-]
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#126 - killerpiemaster (06/14/2013) [-]
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#11 - anonymous (06/13/2013) [-]
**** this hippie **** and **** this old ass man.
#2 - anonymous (06/13/2013) [-]
Wrong, love is about possession. Its what ensures the survival of your genetic line and that's why it has so many motivators, pain, jealousy, and intense joy. Love is an ugly emotion. Now, compassion, on the other hand, is a beautiful emotion.
User avatar #12 to #2 - ScottP (06/13/2013) [-]
Emotion is a beautiful emotion. It's the purest of everything that makes us human.
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