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User avatar #484 - tankijay
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I'm ripped up in a decision here.
My whole life I've been an Xbox fan, I got the original (still works too) and I have a 360 (up to my 3rd one, other two red ringed), but here is the problem.
I'm a huge Halo fan. I mean HUGE. Not so much of 4, but i played the **** out of the old ones, and I still wanna know what happens in the new ones.
BUT for what I use consoles for, I'm better off getting a PS4 because I know it's going to be so much better.
#488 to #484 - ishmari
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I'm in a similar situation, and it's killing me.
User avatar #492 to #484 - blarglestheclown
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well 5 is going to be more similar to 4 than 3 and 2......so If you didn't love 4 why buy a console you are hesitant over for 5?
User avatar #500 to #492 - tankijay
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I know the game will be similar, but I still want to experience the story of Chiefs fave getting ****** up, because that never happens.
#582 to #484 - AirborneAlpha
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Same but with Gears. I'm sticking. In college, I don't have much time to game anyway. The whole 'entertainment center' thing actually appeals to me greatly.
User avatar #349 - CHARGERZ
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I hope Microsoft goes bankrupt.
User avatar #392 to #349 - gmarrox
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Gonna go ahead and say right now that you really don't. I agree the Xbox One is a POS but Microsoft going bamkrupt would **** up far more than you know.
User avatar #533 to #392 - CHARGERZ
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at least the video game part of microsoft.
User avatar #438 to #392 - TheMather
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If Microsoft starts going down the crapper, Google will just step up their game and fill in the holes Microsoft leaves in the market.
#276 - anon id: 529dbabe
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well if you're rich enough to afford the xbox one, then you should be rich enough to have internet
i'm poor and i still don't bitch about it needed to be connected to the internet 24/7
all of my friends have internet connection so even if i take my xbox one to their houses, i will be able to use it
but i know they'll have one too, so there's no point in moving an xbox
i understand some people don't have internet at all, but come on, we're in the 21st century, everything new depends on a wifi connection
and as i said, i'm poor and i have internet, so there's really no excuse
get a job if you can't afford it or get the cheap plan
User avatar #329 to #276 - eddymolly
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Really? So what do you say to my friend Ben? He has enough money for an Xbox, and broadband, but the village he lives in still only has dial up. If they wanted broadband, they would have to pay for the line themself.

And whilst he can afford an Xbox, I don't think he can afford the £10s of £1000's of pounds of laying about 5 miles of cable for himself
User avatar #287 to #276 - CyborgNinja
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Sometimes due to where you live you simply CANNOT have internet, or what you have is incredibly limited by speed and bandwidth limits. And yes, this even applies to the US. You XboxOne supporters sure are an ignorant bunch, aren't ya?
User avatar #517 - sircool
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microsoft is trying to go a steam route of having a gaming library and have them installed and able to buy the game as a gift for friend's libraries, but they're adding all this extra **** that ***** it up.
User avatar #525 to #517 - linktheherooftime
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However the steam route works because Valve doesn't add all the **** that Microsoft is trying to.
#530 to #525 - sircool
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dude, it does more than steam in some things. The family library thing allows multiple accounts to merge their libraries and have access to the games. You'll be able to either buy the game at the store or online. You can even login on friend's xbox and access your library and install on it there, and play. it's like steam plus a few good features, and a few ****** ones.
#554 to #530 - linktheherooftime
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That's great for them. It's like steam. For who have friends.
User avatar #541 to #530 - nuuuuuuuuu
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That would ahve been a nice feature except for the Fact you can only play on your account on someone elses Xbox for 1 hour so that renders the whole thing nearly pointless

I couldnt find the exact source but it is confirmed

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryB-hdtpQRw

if you check his description you'll see it. and it has been mentioned on places other than his video
#482 - awesomenessdefined
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Consumers think they're Microsoft's customers, but they aren't. Publishers are Microsoft's customers, you're they're customers' customers.
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User avatar #405 to #402 - nadastress
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You're the reason we should have IQ tests for joining FJ.
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#572 to #466 - noschool
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i have my doubts, i mean Microsoft can harp on til the cows come home about a "better gaming experience" for the reason they are putting all this red tape up but one nobody is forcing them to and two they are just shooting themselves in the foot because Sony is offering a more consumer friendly device for $100 less. from a business standpoint microsoft is not making good decisions.
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User avatar #352 - commanderbunbun
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people think the xbone just got worse. and yes, it has

but i like to stay optimistic. this means the xbox 360 is now an 8th gen console. released before the PS4 and Wii U. already has hundreds of games. i think i'll go out and buy one. but wait! i already have it.

Xbox 360: 8th gen 1st
#343 - heathz
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User avatar #315 - sackit
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Actually i wanna buy a ps4, just becuase the new Xbox sucks so bad.
I`m not a hardcore Xbox fan i just liked the design they had(not the box but log in screen etc..) on XboX.

I promised my self never to buy a PS(3 +) becuase they got a weird design i belive.
I think i just changed my mind with the tought of that stupid Xbox one.
#295 - moralfagot
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First world faggots.
#284 - anon id: 03a2a436
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You do all realize that having it connected 24/7 is a rumor, right?
User avatar #321 to #284 - lindow
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You realise they confirmed just about every rumour right?
E3 is a pretty big thing, I'm sure you've at least heard of that.
The only rumour I heard that MS didn't turn around and say is true was the one about not being able to turn off the Kinect.
User avatar #322 to #321 - lindow
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I should probably clarify quickly that you don't need it online "24/7", but you need to "check in" at least once a day or it refuses to work.
#398 to #322 - anon id: 03a2a436
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No I haven't heard of E3, what is it. Also they say that it needs to be online when it is on so for morons like you that don't like to do real things I guess that means that you will have to be online at all times. Also it just takes some common sense to realize that being connected to the internet at all times is impossible for everyone everywhere so they clearly would not build such a terrible feature in. Idiots....
User avatar #327 to #284 - chiefrunnyjeans
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You're right on that one. You have to check in periodically online. If you don't your xbox will stop working in 24 hours.
User avatar #278 - baditch
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We really want the Xbox one to be your all-in-one entertainment device.

Unless you want to play xbox360 games. Then we have a new 360 for you to buy that's exactly like the current one but uglier.
#265 - Slicernicer
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WiiU sales went up 875% after the reveal of the Xbox One. Microsoft is selling the WiiU better than Nintendo has been.
#289 to #265 - crazyeyedbioll
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it's ignored because it's wii..just gross.
it's ignored because it's wii..just gross.
#302 to #265 - extic
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The Wii U is **** because it's a last gen console being released around the start of a new gen.

Hey guys here have Nintendo's PS360 so you can get... ports from PS360 and nintendo only games, while all the new games are... not on the system. Yay!
#306 to #265 - tubbymeatball
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oh wow I totally haven't heard that joke 90 million times already
oh wow I totally haven't heard that joke 90 million times already
User avatar #316 to #265 - SirSheepy
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For the last ******* time, their sales went up in the UK on Amazon because there was a sale. Stop this ****. This isn't Facebook.
#262 - lordofo
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Is this an actual quote?
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#219 - xelx
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if people are lost on the whole what console is better heres some info

pastebin.com/uCmdh9jB
#233 to #219 - anon id: 8eb6e4c5
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Oh wow a microsoft employee talking up the xbone? This is amazing, why would he do such a thing?
#194 - methirtyseven
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Okay, people who are arguing about this. Surely you see where he's coming from. The Xbox One has been designed from the ground up to be a system that is connected to the internet. All of it's features revolve around this. He was asked in an interview about peoples options if they don't have stable connections. Obviously they can't get the Xbox One and that is exactly what he said. The product they produce which doesn't require connecting to the internet is the Xbox 360. He isn't saying "**** you" to anyone. He's saying that the Xbox One is not the console for them. He's hardly going to tell people to buy the competitors product. How do you expect that to work. And everyone watching this clearly has the internet, so stop pretending like this is a personal attack at you.
User avatar #208 to #194 - mcknyte
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^this

#218 to #208 - methirtyseven
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Thanks. Between FunnyJunk and Reddit, I get the feeling that nobody wants to have a neutral, well-thought-out opinion on this matter.
User avatar #225 to #218 - mcknyte
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They did do some things I don't agree with to be fair, but the good outweighs the bad.

My purchasing the console is not going to affect the people who want an offline device. People need to quit acting like the damn thing is a terrorist threat or some stupid **** like that.
#255 to #225 - methirtyseven
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The moment people start making out that it is going to be spying on you 24/7 and uploading to Microsoft and the NSA, you might as well be talking to a fundamentalist Christian about evolution
User avatar #227 to #194 - celaeneo
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Yes and whilst I have internet connection.. it's ****** and unreliable. I'm sure other people have this problem, and it seems silly to alienate an entire group of people.
#232 to #227 - methirtyseven
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But all that is required is to make a connection to the internet once a day. Are you telling me that your connection is so ****** and unreliable that you go days at a time without having internet connection?
User avatar #245 to #232 - celaeneo
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Yeah, my whole street has gone two days without connection before.
#253 to #245 - methirtyseven
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I agree that that's not a good thing, but even the way you've said it has shown that it is your worst case scenario. Even in that case, it would have been just the one day without playing games. And I'm assuming that the problem that caused it would have been fixed, so it isn't an immediate danger of happening again soon
#234 to #194 - redrock
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I'm just going to put these in bullets, it's easier that way.
1) At that time they did indeed have a connection but you yourself included the qualifier "stable" in your statement. A stable internet connection is very different from having one in name but is in fact spotty.
2) The demands of a console like the Xbox One would be significantly larger than the demands of, say, a laptop, pushing some worse connections to the limit.
3) People are really just annoyed that Microsoft is trying to tell you what you want, and their response to backlash has been "Shut up, you don't know what you want". The proper response to criticism shouldn't be a hostile "well don't buy it then, we don't want you"
4) I sympathize with the guy, he has to field questions concerning a product people are really bothered by. I think this response was just the only option available to him that wasn't admitting that Microsoft ****** up this time around. It is kind of a "**** you" though, there is no getting around that.
5) People view this as an attack on consumers because of previous statements made by employees of Microsoft when the always-online rumors first started a few months back. They too were very hostile towards criticism of the move so it seems like this is becoming indicative of how the company as a whole thinks.
#247 to #234 - methirtyseven
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Thanks for the points, I would like to respond to a couple.
2) Yes, the demands would be high to use the console online to the fullest extent, but that isn't the case. It only requires a check every 24 hours, which will be a small package of data, to be able to play single player games.
3) At no point have they told any to shut up and that they don't know what they want. What they are saying is what they are offering. The two are very different things.
4) The fact of the matter is, this quote and the video itself have been taken out of context of the rest of the interview. He is saying that the 360 their only platform capable of truly offline play. Which, for some people, is an unfortunate fact
#258 to #247 - redrock
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You make it seem like their hands are tied with the online requirement. They purposely did it and had to exert effort to do it. Please reread your first response because that is exactly what is wrong with the way Microsoft is thinking. They have no business requiring internet connections for offline play. The game and console have already been sold, there should be no other requirement beyond electricity and a tv, they are just forcing you to allow them to be involved.

Finally, at no point have they simply said "this is what we're offering". If that was the case, they wouldn't be so hostile towards criticism, they would just say those exact words and stop talking. Instead they criticize consumers from having opinions and saying that they won't buy the Xbox One.

<Pic is prime example of how their employees, like Orth, have reacted
#269 to #258 - methirtyseven
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The point is they are moving the tech forward to allow for digital distribution. They haven't gone out of their way to make people jump through a bunch of hoops to play offline. What they've done is to create a digital distribution platform that still allows for the inclusion of people without fast/stable internet connections. And with regards to them saying what they are offering, that is what their press release was. That is what their marketing is. They are marketing their product, ie showing what they are offering. And they aren't being hostile, they are being defensive towards the criticism. People are bringing up points and they are explaining their side to it. Adam Orth is just a man. A man that was antagonised on his personal twitter, because he had an opinion. He chose to lash out, and was fired because of it. Microsoft clearly didn't like his approach to their business, so they ended it. They can't be held further responsible for his actions.
#280 to #269 - redrock
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I'm not saying that Orth is part and parcel the entire problem. He was fired for his opinion, he was fired because it created a **** load of negative press. Everything he said has proven to be pretty much in line with how they're acting.

Their digital distribution platform should not affect physical media or offline play at all, so yes they did in fact exert effort to include that in the way the console operates.

They are receiving criticism because many people do not want what they are offering, their hostility should not exist as producers. If you don't want to hear criticism, don't create. If your product is so great, you shouldn't become hostile at the slightest provocation. Being defensive is usually seen as hostile posturing by the way.
#292 to #280 - methirtyseven
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But they aren't being hostile. That's all made up. They are responding to peoples criticism in clear, concise ways. Please give me an example of this hostility that you perceive. Orth wasn't fired for his opinion. He was fired for being rude to Microsoft's customer base in a very public medium.
And with the physical media argument again, they are basing the entire system around digital distribution, which isn't an unwarranted idea. The fact that they are still using physical drives is because they know that some people aren't ready to download all of their games from the internet, so they are giving them the option to join in their new generation console, without the extra requirements that it would generally entail.
#305 to #292 - redrock
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I would argue that most people aren't ready to move to a purely digital system. That's exactly where all this backlash is coming from. And please don't make them sound generous by saying that Microsoft is giving people the option to join them in the next generation. No company is doing away with physical media entirely and the reason Sony and Nintendo aren't being criticized as harshly is because they understand that the market doesn't want to do away with physical media yet. So that isn't the next generation, it's Microsoft's next step and people don't agree with it.

I think you may have misunderstood what I said/implied about digital distribution and the online requirement. Once the sale of a game is done (physical or digital) Microsoft has no business forcing other requirements on you. If a game is bought online and saved to your hard drive, fine. Why the **** should I have to continuously connect to the internet to play what I purchased? It is now mine, I'm not licensing it or leasing it or borrowing it, I bought it and I am the sole possessor.

They currently require you to accept updates, ect. for games in order to go on xbox live, that's totally fine. Why? Because that's a service they offer and they can set terms for that. That does not extend to games which are played without that service.
#314 to #305 - methirtyseven
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I wasn't making out that they were being "generous" by offering it to a larger audience. All they are doing is offering it to a larger audience. And the point is that you don't own it. You are being licensed it. They are making the connection to keep track of their licenses and to prevent pirated copies.
#325 to #314 - redrock
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And that is exactly the issue here, that mentality. If I buy a physical disc, I own it. The way Microsoft sees it, if I buy a digital copy, they own it. That, among other things, is why people are not eager to endorse digital media.

If I wanted to license something I'd subscribe to gamefly for access to a large selection of games, not individually license games for a higher price
#335 to #325 - methirtyseven
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Even physical game discs are considered licensed copies of the games. It is written in almost every EULA. The point is that Microsoft are making a console that involves the licenses being assigned to an account that can be used to keep control of those licenses.
#162 - dragondelight
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I think I'm gonna ******** consoles and turn to PC.

At least they get along for the most part.
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#132 - thebritishguy
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They are giving away 2 games to download for free to make up for the **********, Fable 3 is one of them
User avatar #136 to #132 - ireallylikepotatoe
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Something that play station plus has been doing for years.
User avatar #142 to #136 - syrenthra
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but you realize that sony was a parasite with their store and ps+
xbox has live and their store with dlc, games on demand, and the arcade long before playstation even thought of those things and xbox was the one testing and being the guinea pig and then sony comes in and is a bitch.
User avatar #144 to #142 - ireallylikepotatoe
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So I guess every car is a parasite of the first car made.

If something is a good idea it's obvious other companies are going to do it. Hell, you might as well be calling Microsoft a parasite for making a console after sony made one.
User avatar #184 to #144 - avengeralpha
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then if you are going there we can take it back a long way mate.
User avatar #185 to #184 - ireallylikepotatoe
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That was my point...
User avatar #190 to #185 - avengeralpha
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I know but have you read this pastebin.com/uCmdh9jB this put it in a different perspective for me and I am really exited for DR3, H5 and RYSE.
User avatar #145 to #144 - syrenthra
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every company is a parasite of another because humans are greedy and want as much money as they can get how ever they can get it (not all humans are greedy ***** but enough to **** the rest of us over)
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2 games a month until November's release of X1.
User avatar #95 - habasparkz
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What if they release all the games for xbox one, on the 360. Even over the corse of the next 5-6 years. I would never buy the xbox one then.
User avatar #98 to #95 - kittygerman [OP]
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Well they kinda screwed up more since they made a new Xbox 360 that's exactly like the Xbox One but the only difference is that it can do everything the 360 can
User avatar #100 to #98 - habasparkz
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I cannot believe they came out with another model of the xbox 360. Just ******* stupid.
User avatar #101 to #100 - kittygerman [OP]
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Don Mattrick logic