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#384 - biggrand
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#240 - themtaw
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Anyone else think EA paid Microsoft to try and make them look better by comparison ?
#244 to #240 - pulluspardus
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Don worked for EA.
#243 to #240 - friendlyanonymous ONLINE
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Notice EA cancelled online pass, and then the Xbox one is revealed with used game fees?
Then EA had a huge part of Microsofts event?
#211 - anonymouzx
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All the cons of the Xbox one won't affect me except that it is $100 more. I will get it only for gaming and that's it. Kinect isn't always on and watching you, and I want it for minecraft and halo. (I have minecraft on pc but still prefer xbox)
#223 to #211 - anonymouzx
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Though if I can play the Ps4 with the Xbox controller I may consider getting Ps4. I'm still not 100% but most likely i'll get the xbox one if I can't play ps4 with the controller.
#517 - sircool
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microsoft is trying to go a steam route of having a gaming library and have them installed and able to buy the game as a gift for friend's libraries, but they're adding all this extra **** that ***** it up.
#525 to #517 - linktheherooftime
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However the steam route works because Valve doesn't add all the **** that Microsoft is trying to.
#530 to #525 - sircool
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dude, it does more than steam in some things. The family library thing allows multiple accounts to merge their libraries and have access to the games. You'll be able to either buy the game at the store or online. You can even login on friend's xbox and access your library and install on it there, and play. it's like steam plus a few good features, and a few ****** ones.
#554 to #530 - linktheherooftime
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That's great for them. It's like steam. For who have friends.
#541 to #530 - nuuuuuuuuu
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That would ahve been a nice feature except for the Fact you can only play on your account on someone elses Xbox for 1 hour so that renders the whole thing nearly pointless

I couldnt find the exact source but it is confirmed

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryB-hdtpQRw

if you check his description you'll see it. and it has been mentioned on places other than his video
#482 - awesomenessdefined
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Consumers think they're Microsoft's customers, but they aren't. Publishers are Microsoft's customers, you're they're customers' customers.
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#405 to #402 - nadastress
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You're the reason we should have IQ tests for joining FJ.
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#572 to #466 - noschool
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i have my doubts, i mean Microsoft can harp on til the cows come home about a "better gaming experience" for the reason they are putting all this red tape up but one nobody is forcing them to and two they are just shooting themselves in the foot because Sony is offering a more consumer friendly device for $100 less. from a business standpoint microsoft is not making good decisions.
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#358 - guanyu
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This reminds me of that scene from Scrubs where Eliot digs her own grave.
#352 - commanderbunbun
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people think the xbone just got worse. and yes, it has

but i like to stay optimistic. this means the xbox 360 is now an 8th gen console. released before the PS4 and Wii U. already has hundreds of games. i think i'll go out and buy one. but wait! i already have it.

Xbox 360: 8th gen 1st
#343 - heathz
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#295 - moralfagot
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First world faggots.
#291 - xsnowshark
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I would drop xbox in a second if it weren't for Halo (I find the lore/story fascinating) and Forza 5.
I would drop xbox in a second if it weren't for Halo (I find the lore/story fascinating) and Forza 5.
#293 to #291 - cthumoo
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It probably won't be as bad as it's being made out to be. As it is I'm ready to just read the Halo books and get a PS4, but I'm gonna sit it out and see what people have to say about them after launch (there's almost always launch problems with these things anyway).
#298 to #293 - xsnowshark
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The thing that makes me mad is how he more or less put down a large amount of people that may not have access to a stable connection or do not completely agree with him.

On a separate note, have you read any of the Halo books? I was thinking about picking some up instead of just trolling Halo's Wikia.
#330 to #298 - cthumoo
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I've read a tiny bit of the first first book (well chronologically first, contact harvest, it's about Johnson) and I liked it, not much to go off but I've heard good things about all of them.
#312 to #298 - exhaustedheadcase
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i have their an interesting read if nothing else
#328 to #312 - xsnowshark
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They are written from a Forerunner's perspective, aren't they?
#284 - anon
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You do all realize that having it connected 24/7 is a rumor, right?
#321 to #284 - lindow
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You realise they confirmed just about every rumour right?
E3 is a pretty big thing, I'm sure you've at least heard of that.
The only rumour I heard that MS didn't turn around and say is true was the one about not being able to turn off the Kinect.
#322 to #321 - lindow
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I should probably clarify quickly that you don't need it online "24/7", but you need to "check in" at least once a day or it refuses to work.
#398 to #322 - anon
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No I haven't heard of E3, what is it. Also they say that it needs to be online when it is on so for morons like you that don't like to do real things I guess that means that you will have to be online at all times. Also it just takes some common sense to realize that being connected to the internet at all times is impossible for everyone everywhere so they clearly would not build such a terrible feature in. Idiots....
#327 to #284 - chiefrunnyjeans
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You're right on that one. You have to check in periodically online. If you don't your xbox will stop working in 24 hours.
#278 - baditch ONLINE
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We really want the Xbox one to be your all-in-one entertainment device.

Unless you want to play xbox360 games. Then we have a new 360 for you to buy that's exactly like the current one but uglier.
#267 - Omegashenron
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Im sorry but why is a ******* website raging over this part? THey've confirmed so many damn games for the 360 and over a hundred more full games are coming they've confirmed. I mean heaven forbid they try to move in an innovative albeit restrictive direction. Im keeping my 360 and plan on getting the One or the PS4 just later on down the road once the dust settles.
#262 - lordofo
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Is this an actual quote?
#194 - methirtyseven
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Okay, people who are arguing about this. Surely you see where he's coming from. The Xbox One has been designed from the ground up to be a system that is connected to the internet. All of it's features revolve around this. He was asked in an interview about peoples options if they don't have stable connections. Obviously they can't get the Xbox One and that is exactly what he said. The product they produce which doesn't require connecting to the internet is the Xbox 360. He isn't saying "**** you" to anyone. He's saying that the Xbox One is not the console for them. He's hardly going to tell people to buy the competitors product. How do you expect that to work. And everyone watching this clearly has the internet, so stop pretending like this is a personal attack at you.
#208 to #194 - mcknyte
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^this

#218 to #208 - methirtyseven
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Thanks. Between FunnyJunk and Reddit, I get the feeling that nobody wants to have a neutral, well-thought-out opinion on this matter.
#225 to #218 - mcknyte
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They did do some things I don't agree with to be fair, but the good outweighs the bad.

My purchasing the console is not going to affect the people who want an offline device. People need to quit acting like the damn thing is a terrorist threat or some stupid **** like that.
#255 to #225 - methirtyseven
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The moment people start making out that it is going to be spying on you 24/7 and uploading to Microsoft and the NSA, you might as well be talking to a fundamentalist Christian about evolution
#227 to #194 - celaeneo
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Yes and whilst I have internet connection.. it's ****** and unreliable. I'm sure other people have this problem, and it seems silly to alienate an entire group of people.
#232 to #227 - methirtyseven
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But all that is required is to make a connection to the internet once a day. Are you telling me that your connection is so ****** and unreliable that you go days at a time without having internet connection?
#245 to #232 - celaeneo
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Yeah, my whole street has gone two days without connection before.
#253 to #245 - methirtyseven
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I agree that that's not a good thing, but even the way you've said it has shown that it is your worst case scenario. Even in that case, it would have been just the one day without playing games. And I'm assuming that the problem that caused it would have been fixed, so it isn't an immediate danger of happening again soon
#234 to #194 - redrock
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I'm just going to put these in bullets, it's easier that way.
1) At that time they did indeed have a connection but you yourself included the qualifier "stable" in your statement. A stable internet connection is very different from having one in name but is in fact spotty.
2) The demands of a console like the Xbox One would be significantly larger than the demands of, say, a laptop, pushing some worse connections to the limit.
3) People are really just annoyed that Microsoft is trying to tell you what you want, and their response to backlash has been "Shut up, you don't know what you want". The proper response to criticism shouldn't be a hostile "well don't buy it then, we don't want you"
4) I sympathize with the guy, he has to field questions concerning a product people are really bothered by. I think this response was just the only option available to him that wasn't admitting that Microsoft ****** up this time around. It is kind of a "**** you" though, there is no getting around that.
5) People view this as an attack on consumers because of previous statements made by employees of Microsoft when the always-online rumors first started a few months back. They too were very hostile towards criticism of the move so it seems like this is becoming indicative of how the company as a whole thinks.
#247 to #234 - methirtyseven
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Thanks for the points, I would like to respond to a couple.
2) Yes, the demands would be high to use the console online to the fullest extent, but that isn't the case. It only requires a check every 24 hours, which will be a small package of data, to be able to play single player games.
3) At no point have they told any to shut up and that they don't know what they want. What they are saying is what they are offering. The two are very different things.
4) The fact of the matter is, this quote and the video itself have been taken out of context of the rest of the interview. He is saying that the 360 their only platform capable of truly offline play. Which, for some people, is an unfortunate fact
#258 to #247 - redrock
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You make it seem like their hands are tied with the online requirement. They purposely did it and had to exert effort to do it. Please reread your first response because that is exactly what is wrong with the way Microsoft is thinking. They have no business requiring internet connections for offline play. The game and console have already been sold, there should be no other requirement beyond electricity and a tv, they are just forcing you to allow them to be involved.

Finally, at no point have they simply said "this is what we're offering". If that was the case, they wouldn't be so hostile towards criticism, they would just say those exact words and stop talking. Instead they criticize consumers from having opinions and saying that they won't buy the Xbox One.

<Pic is prime example of how their employees, like Orth, have reacted
#269 to #258 - methirtyseven
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The point is they are moving the tech forward to allow for digital distribution. They haven't gone out of their way to make people jump through a bunch of hoops to play offline. What they've done is to create a digital distribution platform that still allows for the inclusion of people without fast/stable internet connections. And with regards to them saying what they are offering, that is what their press release was. That is what their marketing is. They are marketing their product, ie showing what they are offering. And they aren't being hostile, they are being defensive towards the criticism. People are bringing up points and they are explaining their side to it. Adam Orth is just a man. A man that was antagonised on his personal twitter, because he had an opinion. He chose to lash out, and was fired because of it. Microsoft clearly didn't like his approach to their business, so they ended it. They can't be held further responsible for his actions.
#280 to #269 - redrock
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I'm not saying that Orth is part and parcel the entire problem. He was fired for his opinion, he was fired because it created a **** load of negative press. Everything he said has proven to be pretty much in line with how they're acting.

Their digital distribution platform should not affect physical media or offline play at all, so yes they did in fact exert effort to include that in the way the console operates.

They are receiving criticism because many people do not want what they are offering, their hostility should not exist as producers. If you don't want to hear criticism, don't create. If your product is so great, you shouldn't become hostile at the slightest provocation. Being defensive is usually seen as hostile posturing by the way.
#292 to #280 - methirtyseven
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But they aren't being hostile. That's all made up. They are responding to peoples criticism in clear, concise ways. Please give me an example of this hostility that you perceive. Orth wasn't fired for his opinion. He was fired for being rude to Microsoft's customer base in a very public medium.
And with the physical media argument again, they are basing the entire system around digital distribution, which isn't an unwarranted idea. The fact that they are still using physical drives is because they know that some people aren't ready to download all of their games from the internet, so they are giving them the option to join in their new generation console, without the extra requirements that it would generally entail.
#305 to #292 - redrock
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I would argue that most people aren't ready to move to a purely digital system. That's exactly where all this backlash is coming from. And please don't make them sound generous by saying that Microsoft is giving people the option to join them in the next generation. No company is doing away with physical media entirely and the reason Sony and Nintendo aren't being criticized as harshly is because they understand that the market doesn't want to do away with physical media yet. So that isn't the next generation, it's Microsoft's next step and people don't agree with it.

I think you may have misunderstood what I said/implied about digital distribution and the online requirement. Once the sale of a game is done (physical or digital) Microsoft has no business forcing other requirements on you. If a game is bought online and saved to your hard drive, fine. Why the **** should I have to continuously connect to the internet to play what I purchased? It is now mine, I'm not licensing it or leasing it or borrowing it, I bought it and I am the sole possessor.

They currently require you to accept updates, ect. for games in order to go on xbox live, that's totally fine. Why? Because that's a service they offer and they can set terms for that. That does not extend to games which are played without that service.
#314 to #305 - methirtyseven
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I wasn't making out that they were being "generous" by offering it to a larger audience. All they are doing is offering it to a larger audience. And the point is that you don't own it. You are being licensed it. They are making the connection to keep track of their licenses and to prevent pirated copies.
#325 to #314 - redrock
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And that is exactly the issue here, that mentality. If I buy a physical disc, I own it. The way Microsoft sees it, if I buy a digital copy, they own it. That, among other things, is why people are not eager to endorse digital media.

If I wanted to license something I'd subscribe to gamefly for access to a large selection of games, not individually license games for a higher price
#335 to #325 - methirtyseven
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Even physical game discs are considered licensed copies of the games. It is written in almost every EULA. The point is that Microsoft are making a console that involves the licenses being assigned to an account that can be used to keep control of those licenses.
#162 - dragondelight
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I think I'm gonna ******** consoles and turn to PC.

At least they get along for the most part.
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#132 - thebritishguy
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They are giving away 2 games to download for free to make up for the **********, Fable 3 is one of them
#136 to #132 - ireallylikepotatoe
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Something that play station plus has been doing for years.
#142 to #136 - syrenthra
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but you realize that sony was a parasite with their store and ps+
xbox has live and their store with dlc, games on demand, and the arcade long before playstation even thought of those things and xbox was the one testing and being the guinea pig and then sony comes in and is a bitch.
#144 to #142 - ireallylikepotatoe
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So I guess every car is a parasite of the first car made.

If something is a good idea it's obvious other companies are going to do it. Hell, you might as well be calling Microsoft a parasite for making a console after sony made one.
#184 to #144 - avengeralpha
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then if you are going there we can take it back a long way mate.
#185 to #184 - ireallylikepotatoe
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That was my point...
#190 to #185 - avengeralpha
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I know but have you read this pastebin.com/uCmdh9jB this put it in a different perspective for me and I am really exited for DR3, H5 and RYSE.
#145 to #144 - syrenthra
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every company is a parasite of another because humans are greedy and want as much money as they can get how ever they can get it (not all humans are greedy ***** but enough to **** the rest of us over)
#137 to #132 - foreverporkchop **User deleted account**
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2 games a month until November's release of X1.
#95 - habasparkz
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What if they release all the games for xbox one, on the 360. Even over the corse of the next 5-6 years. I would never buy the xbox one then.
#98 to #95 - kittygerman [OP]
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Well they kinda screwed up more since they made a new Xbox 360 that's exactly like the Xbox One but the only difference is that it can do everything the 360 can
#100 to #98 - habasparkz
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I cannot believe they came out with another model of the xbox 360. Just ******* stupid.
#101 to #100 - kittygerman [OP]
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Don Mattrick logic