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#50 - slumberdonkey
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(05/09/2013) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bYv2AKPZOk
this kid is my hero
please watch this
#140 to #50 - anon
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(05/09/2013) [-]
I'd expect that kinda speech to come from Silent Bob, not Jay holy ****.
#165 to #50 - machinimax
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Holy crap...

That was pretty awesome.
#188 to #50 - nefarian
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(05/09/2013) [-]
What I said to myself my whole childhood
#201 to #50 - thefalso
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Fantastic.
#155 to #50 - boozzerr
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(05/09/2013) [-]
That was epic !
That was epic !
#230 to #50 - holmesc
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Mfw hearing that teacher's voice all calm and **** like she didn't care.
Mfw hearing that teacher's voice all calm and **** like she didn't care.
#59 to #50 - kijajouteh [OP]
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Give this man thumbs, freaking awesome.
#127 to #50 - swagbot
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(05/09/2013) [-]
This fuggin kid... awesome.

And of course, the freakin' teacher just dismisses him like any lowly internet troll.

Every kid in Public school should be thinking this way - the only reason his classmates snicker in because they are uncomfortable, because they know that they are too weak to do what he's doing.
#8 - allamericandude
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(05/08/2013) [-]
I'm a low-tax kinda guy, but even I think we should have public education. With a well-educated population, you can improve the economy, reduce poverty, keep kids off the streets and away from gangs and drugs, and a plethora of other things.   
   
Unfortunately, most public educations systems these days--not just in the US--do more schooling than educating. They apply a one-size-fits-all curriculum to every student in preparation for either college or a job. This isn't necessarily a bad thing--it works for a good majority of students--but it leaves a lot to be desired, especially for kids on the fringe who are either struggling or excelling. We have to deal with it for now, because we don't have many other feasible large-scale options. But as technology becomes cheaper and more available, I think our public schools can and should move towards more personalized and efficient education.
I'm a low-tax kinda guy, but even I think we should have public education. With a well-educated population, you can improve the economy, reduce poverty, keep kids off the streets and away from gangs and drugs, and a plethora of other things.

Unfortunately, most public educations systems these days--not just in the US--do more schooling than educating. They apply a one-size-fits-all curriculum to every student in preparation for either college or a job. This isn't necessarily a bad thing--it works for a good majority of students--but it leaves a lot to be desired, especially for kids on the fringe who are either struggling or excelling. We have to deal with it for now, because we don't have many other feasible large-scale options. But as technology becomes cheaper and more available, I think our public schools can and should move towards more personalized and efficient education.
#56 to #8 - spacelubber
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(05/09/2013) [-]
OR WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH INTELLIGENT DRUG DEALERS AND CRIMINALS INSTEAD.
#128 to #8 - swagbot
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Public schools should be DJ 4DM1Nistered by Stated or Local Communities.

FEDERAL PUBLIC SCHOOL IS A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE IDEA AND SHOULD BE ABOLISHED.
#30 to #8 - srskate
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(05/09/2013) [-]
I can attest to the fringe. II kinda hate how teachers now teach you to the test. I wanna learn a whole bunch of ****, not wait while you teach some other kid a fact easily learned just because its on the test.
#109 to #8 - anon
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(05/09/2013) [-]
I definitely agree with you here. I'm in high school and I attend a math and science center, and I also take college English courses. I'm not trying to brag, by the way. If my school didn't have these opportunities for me, I'd be clawing my eyes out, as school would be painfully easy.
#135 to #8 - anon
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(05/09/2013) [-]
what really grinds my gears about U.S. schools is our higher education system. It's all profit driven, forces people like me to waste money learning useless ****.
#138 to #8 - anon
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(05/09/2013) [-]
or get rid of all the ******* for the same effect
#142 to #8 - anon
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(05/09/2013) [-]
most of the federal taxes (about 1/3) are going to education
the money is not the issue
it's the will and the desire that comes from within
I personally believe we should push for higher standards of state and higher bar exams for practitioners so there's less supply and more demand
making it more desirable
#237 to #8 - strupstad
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Check out Salman Khan, who started Khan Academy, and his TED-talk. It's out on YouTube. You won't regret those 20 minutes.
#35 to #8 - Petroleum
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(05/09/2013) [-]
I agree with you so much. Personally I dislike the current education system in the United States, I think that it's simply memorization for what's going to be on a test, the teacher does not give much motivation to actually retain the stuff they make us read, nor to pick up any useful information from it. I also don't think that they should call themselves an "educational" institution when they don't educate.
#44 to #35 - allamericandude
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(05/09/2013) [-]
There are a lot of teachers who want to properly educate children. For a lot of them, that's why they became teachers in the first place (it certainly wasn't for the pay). But they're caught in a system which doesn't demand anything above mediocrity.
#42 to #35 - anon
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(05/09/2013) [-]
My mom is a teacher. She's been fighting standardized testing her whole career, but the DJ 4DM1N beats everyone to death with it. If the teachers seem lackluster, this is why.
#119 to #42 - ithinkihaveaids **User deleted account**
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(05/09/2013) [-]
or maybe you 'muricans should actually pay your teachers, I mean its a crappy job at best overall, why not get properly paid for it just to get a tad more motivation?
#52 to #8 - slumberdonkey
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(05/09/2013) [-]
#139 - therealsuperderpy
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(05/09/2013) [-]
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MFW people think taxes are the governments way of stealing from them.
#156 to #139 - kustomforce
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(05/09/2013) [-]
technically it's stealing.

you are forced to pay the government money and if you don't, men in blue suits with guns are coming to get you and throw you in jail.

#159 to #156 - Kritarie
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(05/09/2013) [-]
yeah, my apartment manager steals from me every month man it's crazy
#163 to #159 - kustomforce
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(05/09/2013) [-]
That is just ridiculous. You aren't FORCED to rent an apartment, that's a voluntairy exchange. I can't believe you couldn't think of that yourself.
#247 to #163 - Kritarie
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(05/10/2013) [-]
You aren't FORCED to live in the US, taxes are like rent
#251 to #247 - kustomforce
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(05/10/2013) [-]
The diffirence there is that the appartement actually belongs to the owner, he inested time and money into having someone build it. The government however has no claim to the country at all. If i work for my money the goverment has no right to take the fruits of my labour from me by force.

Also i don't live in the US.
#158 to #156 - unholyjebus
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(05/09/2013) [-]
We have those people in the UK and they're called Gypsies (not all Gypsies but some). What happens is that they are not entitled to any government benefits i.e health care. Of course this isn't possible due to the fact that there kids need education and our emergency services can't refuse to help if they call. These type of people are the one's stealing, stealing from the people.
#168 to #158 - ludislavonac
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Pikeys?
#186 to #168 - lasmamoe
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Dags
#193 to #186 - ludislavonac
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(05/09/2013) [-]
I fuken 'ate pikeys
#172 to #168 - unholyjebus
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Lawd above! Gippos me lover duck. Gawdon Bennet!
#157 to #156 - ludislavonac
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Not it's not stealing, because you get something in return - public services, however the effects of that return aren't immediately felt, that's why people consider taxes stealing
#170 to #157 - tomjoad
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Even if you get something in return, you're still being forced to do something which is wrong.
#162 to #157 - kustomforce
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(05/09/2013) [-]
what kind of ******** argument is that? taking someone's money by force isn't stealing when you "get something in return"? Of course it's stealing they take something from me BY FORCE which is by default stealing. And even then money often goes to places where i don't want it to go, not that it matters because even if it did go where i was going to sent my money anyway it's STILL theft.
#166 to #162 - ludislavonac
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(05/09/2013) [-]
It's the main argument in tax law theory. It's the "nature" of taxes that they are forced, however without them you wouldn't have any public services, that's why they are neccesary. And as I said, you don't get anything in return directly, but indirectly every person recieves benefits from the tax system. Think about it, without taxes you wouldn't have schools, parks, hospitals, army etc etc. The main reason why they are forced is that nobody would pay them if they were let's say donations.    
Of course there are many standards taxes need to meet such as: they need to generate enough revenue to cover public expenses, they musn't have a regresive effect, cumulative effects, they need to be an equal burden for everyone etc.   
I suggest that you read up on tax theory before sprouting ******** my friend
It's the main argument in tax law theory. It's the "nature" of taxes that they are forced, however without them you wouldn't have any public services, that's why they are neccesary. And as I said, you don't get anything in return directly, but indirectly every person recieves benefits from the tax system. Think about it, without taxes you wouldn't have schools, parks, hospitals, army etc etc. The main reason why they are forced is that nobody would pay them if they were let's say donations.
Of course there are many standards taxes need to meet such as: they need to generate enough revenue to cover public expenses, they musn't have a regresive effect, cumulative effects, they need to be an equal burden for everyone etc.
I suggest that you read up on tax theory before sprouting ******** my friend
#171 to #166 - tomjoad
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(05/09/2013) [-]
We would still have schools, parks, hospitals, army etc without taxes. The only difference would be that the quality of service would be much higher and everything would be more efficient.
#176 to #171 - ludislavonac
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Explain me how? Who would finance that, a state with no income perhaps? Or would you like everything to be private so that only people who have they money to build a park can take a walk in it? Since the first states that existed, taxes have also existed, they can't go without each-other... God why am I arguing tax law theory with people who have absolutely no knowledge of taxes
#218 to #176 - meuk ONLINE
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(05/09/2013) [-]
kustomforce pls. you are being pwnd. stap.
kustomforce pls. you are being pwnd. stap.
#220 to #218 - kustomforce
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(05/09/2013) [-]
I assume you can refute my claim then?

My claim is: Taxation is theft.

Go ahead.
#221 to #220 - meuk ONLINE
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(05/09/2013) [-]
kusomforc pls.
#229 to #221 - kustomforce
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#175 to #171 - outerfiend
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(05/09/2013) [-]
with what money? taxes are used to pay for those things.
with what money? taxes are used to pay for those things.
#174 to #166 - kustomforce
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(05/09/2013) [-]
I see that you still fail to refute my claim that taxation is theft. Instead i get a useless blob of text about why it's "important" for the government to steal money. But that's not really the point is it? That's an entirely different discussion.   
   
Now let me make a suggestion "my friend", tell me why taking something that doesn't belong to you by force is not stealing.
I see that you still fail to refute my claim that taxation is theft. Instead i get a useless blob of text about why it's "important" for the government to steal money. But that's not really the point is it? That's an entirely different discussion.

Now let me make a suggestion "my friend", tell me why taking something that doesn't belong to you by force is not stealing.

#178 to #174 - ludislavonac
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Allright, since you give a stupid argument, I'll give you a stupid counter-argument. It's because the lawmakers legalised that kind of stealing with laws (so it isn't stealing anymore), we elected those law makers so that they may fulfill the will of the people. Satisfied now?
#187 to #178 - kustomforce
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(05/09/2013) [-]
The funny thing is i didn't even make an argument in the previous comment, all i did was remind you what we were talking about.

So no i'm not at all satisfied as you STILL manage not to respond to my claim. I'm also annoyed that you go around calling everybody that disagrees with you stupid yet you can't even stay on the damn subject.
#191 to #187 - ludislavonac
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(05/09/2013) [-]
All right, let me first define the term stealing - To take (the property of another) without right or permission. Source - google it.
You asked me to refute your claim that it's stealing, I did. So one more time it's not stealing since (via elections) we have given the governemnt permission to create taxes and take from us. Democracy 101
#198 to #191 - kustomforce
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Ah now we're going somewhere, took you long enough.

"To take (the property of another) without right or permission",

ok let's just rule out permission, let's just say they don't have mine. As for the right to steal my money, let's just go back the 1940's shall we. Hitler rose to power in this period DEMOCRATICLY elected and DEMOCRATICLY given the "right" to do horrible things. Just because he, by law, has the means to doesn't mean he has the right.

Now i think you must understand that there is a profound diffirence between RIGHTS and THE MEANS TO. Elected lawmakers have THE MEANS TO steal my money because of such laws, not the RIGHT.
#202 to #198 - ludislavonac
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Sir, welcome to democracy - It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried. W. Churchill
#204 to #202 - kustomforce
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery -W. Churchill

nice try, but no.
#169 to #139 - anon
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(05/09/2013) [-]
taxation is the government forcibly taking your money from you. I don't see how this isn't theft.
#199 to #169 - skarre
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(05/09/2013) [-]
******* libertarians...
#182 to #139 - anon
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(05/09/2013) [-]
People don't see it as theft, but it's pretty ******* annoying when you get the **** taxed out of you and your government just pisses it away on useless crap. Now you probably live in the US, but as a Canadian, we have pretty high taxes, and this year the government "misplaced" 300 million dollars, canceled gas plants plans which left tax payers to foot an over a 500 million dollars bill, Canada constantly throws money at other countries, also we have a heavily abused welfare system, meanwhile nobody in our parliament wants to deal with improving our roads/highways, education, and healthcare,welfare system, etc.... I'd love taxes if they were spent to improve Canada, not for some crooked politicians summer home, or to be misplaced by the government.
#244 to #182 - pandain
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(05/09/2013) [-]
And this is the angriest canadian you'll see. EVER.
#200 to #139 - anon
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(05/09/2013) [-]
I can sence lil' kids not knowing governement! Oh gosh... they're so many...
#217 to #139 - anon
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(05/09/2013) [-]
No no, not stealing...it's extortion.

Don't believe me? Then don't pay your taxes, see what happens.
#219 to #217 - therealsuperderpy
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Well if everyone stopped the nation would fall apart.
#224 to #219 - anon
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(05/09/2013) [-]
The income tax is straight up theft. Needs to be fixed.
#225 to #224 - therealsuperderpy
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(05/09/2013) [-]
I don't even know.
I'm not american.
#222 to #219 - anon
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(05/09/2013) [-]
it is extortion, that much is clear. whether or not the nation will fall apart and for what reasons remains unclear.
#13 - bowties
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(05/08/2013) [-]
Such an inspirational man
Such an inspirational man
#121 - profanity
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(05/09/2013) [-]
>America
>Taxes going to education

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOOHOHOHOHOOHOH
HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

HUE
#132 - beldum
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(05/09/2013) [-]
John Green!
John Green!
#153 to #132 - SuperBobbis
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(05/09/2013) [-]
MFW I prefer Hank to John.
#177 to #153 - loszombis
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(05/09/2013) [-]
They're both awesome for their own reasons
#179 to #177 - SuperBobbis
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Yeah, they are. But Hank is cooler.
I have to admit though, John's early baby videos are so ******* adorable. And the nursery rhyme was funny as ****.
#183 to #179 - loszombis
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Hank is cooler.. and I love his music n stuff
but Johns videos, though not as funny are still funny.. and as for baby videos.. well since the Yeti is having another baby there will be more!
#184 to #183 - SuperBobbis
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Yeah, I agree fully. I haven't been a vlogbrother for a while... Only seen the non scishow and crashcourse yesterday.
One of the only things I saw was this www.listenonrepeat.com/watch/?v=SEUsNK8E52c and I loved it so much, I downloaded it onto my iPod.
#189 to #184 - loszombis
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(05/09/2013) [-]
I think you mean nerdfighter not vlogbrother.. I've been watching since 2009.. that videos still one of my favourites
#190 to #189 - SuperBobbis
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Yeah, nerdfighter. I obviously ooze noob in this instance. XD
And yeah, it is.
#192 to #190 - loszombis
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(05/09/2013) [-]
everyones a noob at some point
#195 to #192 - SuperBobbis
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Yeah, I suppose. But I may be one for ages. I'm doing my last year of high school, and I want to get some really good grades. And Funnyjunk may have to go, too.
#185 to #184 - SuperBobbis
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(05/09/2013) [-]
And that at that point, he was ridiculously cute. And I normally find babies meh or repulsive.
#14 - Visual
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The problem is, m8, that the government spends money on stupid ******* kids who don't want to learn.

There is one little **** in my class who turns in everything the minute he gets it and when the teacher asks why he does literally none of the assignments, his excuse is "I'm not in a good spot at home" but he comes to school every day and just sits on his ass in the back, drawing or being a cunt, wasting our precious air in the classroom.
#20 to #14 - awesomenessdefined
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So he finishes all his work and yet hasn't done any assignments? What?
#58 to #20 - Visual
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Sorry, didn't phrase it correctly. He turns it in the minute he gets it without doing any work. Like he gets a blank worksheet from the teacher, he turns in a blank worksheet.
#38 to #14 - anon
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How is that the government's problem? I do believe it's the parents' problem.
#64 to #38 - Visual
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And what are we going to do about the parent's, huh? We going to force them to teach their ****** little kid responsibility? It doesn't work that way, pal. You can't make people choose how to raise their kid, any idea what kind of ********* that would create if enforced like that?
#61 to #38 - Visual
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The government is still forcing themselves to pay for that kid's education when he doesn't want it and won't accept it. We could be directing that money elsewhere where it is needed. The No-Child-Left-Behind plan is a waste of ******* money because of kids like these.
#43 to #38 - anon
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(05/09/2013) [-]
exactly, it isnt the governments problem and yet we still blame them that there's not enough money, that those precious souls arent getting the education they need when in fact, they dont want that education in the first place.
#65 to #38 - Visual
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My school even has $1800 laptop-tablets for every kid. Do you think that kid is putting it to good use? All he does is look at stupid pictures all the time to draw or play games. That's good if he wants something to do with art, but the school district didn't need to waste $1800 for him to **** around on the internet.
#83 to #65 - stallwallwriter
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I don't see how that invalidates spending money on all the kids who *aren't* being little *****, the kids who I assume are the majority since you mention this one guy and not a bunch of them.
If he pisses away his education, that's his own lookout, but a handful of asshats doesn't mean it should be ruined for the others.
#97 to #83 - Visual
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Basically what I'm trying to get at is that we should spend more money on students who want to actually learn and stop spending money on the little ***** who don't do put any effort into school. It's just that the U.S. needs to get off it's high horse and realize that they can't force people to learn.

MONEY DOESN'T CURE STUPIDITY
#88 to #83 - Visual
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There's actually a lot of them actually, the numbers are staggering. It just doesn't seem that way because public schools are designed to have all their students pass with minimal effort.   
   
The students who flunk or drop out are the kind of people I just described.    
   
There are test retakes, grade repair, too many extra credit assignments, late turn-ins, and sometimes even extra, easy tests that replace the grade of a really bad one. Anyone who fails High School is both lazy and stupid because there are so many fail-safes that schools try to provide so they can get their government funding.   
   
Something is definitely wrong here.
There's actually a lot of them actually, the numbers are staggering. It just doesn't seem that way because public schools are designed to have all their students pass with minimal effort.

The students who flunk or drop out are the kind of people I just described.

There are test retakes, grade repair, too many extra credit assignments, late turn-ins, and sometimes even extra, easy tests that replace the grade of a really bad one. Anyone who fails High School is both lazy and stupid because there are so many fail-safes that schools try to provide so they can get their government funding.

Something is definitely wrong here.
#118 to #88 - zorororonoa
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I know what you mean when you say that there are too many extra credit and retake ****. When I was in Jr. High, specifically 7th grade I believe, in my history class, before every test the teacher would go over each question and answer in the exact same order as on the test. And I'm not talking about a review the day before. This was on the same day as the test. He would do a review with all the questions, showing us the answers in the same order, then we would take the test. You could sleep in every single class, then pay attention to that review and get an A. I loved it back then, but looking back I realize that that was ******* stupid. No one learned anything. That's the problem with public school system. It is all about scores than actually retaining information. Oh, it doesn't matter if you dont remember any of this ****, as long as you get an A on the test, you are smart. It is ******* ********. And people wonder why a lot of freshmen struggle in college.
TL;DR public schools need to stop focusing on everyone being able to succeed, and need to start focusing on the ones that deserve to succeed get to succeed.
#211 to #14 - gorilladin
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(05/09/2013) [-]
its phanacts fault
#111 to #14 - mtndewisgreat
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(05/09/2013) [-]
That's cool and all, but if you're going to complain about taxes you should look at see the pie chart of things your money is being spent on. Like %98 of your taxes go straight to the millitary dude, talking about government programs and public education, it is literally less that %1 of what you pay for taxes that actually is used for education
#149 to #111 - vytros
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(05/09/2013) [-]
I think you meant this.
#150 to #149 - vytros
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(05/09/2013) [-]
****, didn't remember the size of the pic, so basically, the big yellow is Defense, while the red is Education.
#126 to #111 - xxpredatorxx
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(05/09/2013) [-]
>%98
#167 - sodapops
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(05/09/2013) [-]
Funding education is the single best investment a government can make. It can turn useless little ***** into valuable members of society. Unfortunately there still seems to be a plague of "what do I need to know math for? YOLO" and "Meh, I have spellcheck on my computer".

Also I have an idea about that.
Kids that skip classes and fail because they don't care should be assigned a job. Seriously. They only ruin school for the serious students, and if some hyper ADD / bored cool kid gets a meaningful way to channel all that energy and make some money he won't waste several years of his, his teachers and his friends life in school learning nothing. The jobs could typically be cleaner, farmhand etc. Simple to learn but physically active.

Then, when they grow up and realize how good it would be with an education and they have matured enough to study, THEN they can go back to school. Of course there would have to be special classes for them because it's kinda degrading to be put in a class with kids 10 years younger than yourself but it would be SO worth it. And if they never want to go to school again, well they didn't get any more stupid and at least they learned a trade.
#226 to #167 - anon
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Problem is School has become so inefficient and their tactics for trying to teach people are terrible. I've literally missed 200 DAYS my first 3 years of high school and I'm in the top 5% of my class. How can I do this well, while someone that goes to school is ranked in the bottom 5% of class? Because they're not teaching in a way that benefits and motivates everyone.
#232 to #226 - sodapops
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Yes, I know that is a part of the problem. That's why I said it's such a good investment. All the schools here have to save mony so they have too few schools, too few teachers, too many kids per classroom and outdated books. School needs more teachers. And those teachers need to be well educated and well paid. School is not for saving money, it's what you spend money ON! It's like buying expensive seeds, give it the best fields and nurturing it for a year. It might be expensive at first but will yield a great crop and earn you money.
#194 to #167 - imonaboatman
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(05/09/2013) [-]
My thoughts exactly.
#73 - luiselvergas
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(05/09/2013) [-]
> implying public schools are any good......
> implying public schools are any good......
#75 to #73 - HarvietheDinkle
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can you think of a better system?
#77 to #75 - kijajouteh [OP]
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Homeschool.
#80 to #77 - HarvietheDinkle
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1) indoctrination by parents
2) Very hard to standardize
3) How can college determine level of difficulty?
4) Much less (if no) interaction with peers of the same age - vital to social development and creation of social skills


I thought of these within 5 seconds. Homeschooling is not the way to go, for the majority of people.
#84 to #80 - kijajouteh [OP]
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1. Indoctrination is not required, you are free at 18.
2. Tons of courses that go with public schools.
3. Normally, you get more work done in Homeschool, most people graduate 1-2 years earlier.
4. We socialize dogs, not children
#92 to #84 - HarvietheDinkle
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1) I assume that's humor. Parents often indoctrinate their children (example: religion) and by the time the kids are 18 it's too late.
2) Ok. But how can we standardize the teaching and make sure the parents are up to par?
3) Depends on the parent (as with #2). Standardization issues
4) Kids need to socialize

One more thing: What if certain parents don't want to take up the task of teaching? That's actually the vast majority of parents, so we need a large public school option.
#117 to #80 - xxpredatorxx
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1) I would be more worried about indoctrination by the schools than by the parents.
2) Why would you want it standardized?
3) Interview? test? there are plenty of ways other than the systems we have now.
4) Homeschoolers where I'm from are much more socially active than the average public school student.
#245 to #117 - HarvietheDinkle
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1) school teachings are public and more easy to regulate than the teachings of millions of parents
2) standardization is important to make sure that skills are up to par, to make sure there are no unfair advantages, and to make sure that colleges can actually have a standard by which they can do.
3) School grades over a 4-year course are much more important and well-rounded than the one-time solutions you mentioned.
4) That might be true, from where you are.

Also, how will we convince millions of parents to homeschool their kids? What about parents who don't have the time or income?

We need a standardized school system. But homeschooling is certainly not the solution for the vast majority.
#78 to #75 - gammajk
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Yeah, like what Norway and Finland have.
#81 to #78 - HarvietheDinkle
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Norway and Finland have highly differentdemographics than the US.

Also, it will be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to switch over.

luiselvergas makes sense now with his/her new comment.

#82 to #75 - helenwheels
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Golly gee willikers! What could be better than shoving 30 kids into a confined space with one adult, whose expected to teach them a set of certain things regardless of a child's interests or talents and can only progress as quickly as the slowest student!

Holy hell! What a great system!
#89 to #82 - HarvietheDinkle
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"think of a viable solution, then" is basically what I said.

Never said the current system is good; just that alternate solutions may be worse. And hard to implement.
#94 to #89 - helenwheels
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Smaller classes and more teachers is a good way to start, but I know that's easier said than done because we need more people who are willing to teach.
#96 to #94 - HarvietheDinkle
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exactly.
#98 to #96 - helenwheels
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Still, we need to work on it, simply excepting something because coming up with a solution is hard is the opposite of what people should do.

I can say, I learned positively nothing from my public school education, everything I know was learned from family or the internet and people I know who don't have many educated family members are as dumb as rocks.
#246 to #98 - HarvietheDinkle
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Thing is, that's simply what people are doing - complaining but not offering any solutions, let alone viable ones.

It's the same thing with any political issue.
#249 to #246 - helenwheels
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The internet is a board for complaining, complaining about others complaining doesn't do much either.
#250 to #249 - HarvietheDinkle
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it gets them to realize (or at least admit) they're doing nothing. A minor accomplishment.
#93 to #82 - anon
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it's easy to complain about something.

But you're just that - a whiny nobody - until you actually get off your ass and do something about it.
#79 to #73 - luiselvergas
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i think i should rephrase to
> implying the Government uses that money efficently
#99 - mrsockz ONLINE
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Yet our schools are full of some of the stupidest people......both teachers and students.
#134 to #99 - anon
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My English teacher junior year of high school is one such example. All you had to do is know something that irritated her and you could make her go on a rant the whole class period. I've never really felt challenged in any classes except for some of my math course, but I'm just terrible with that subject. I maybe spent 15 minutes tops my whole high school career studying. It's not that I was taking low level classes either because I've found I'm learning almost the same exact stuff in college.

Interesting how much of our lives we spend in pursuit of a little piece of paper that really serves no other purpose, than to say that you've been proven competent up to a certain extent.
#133 - Elemental
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"Then again, I find most stupid people in public schools"

uh... ya, that would be the point.
#85 - buttholee
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>Implying school makes you smart
#86 to #85 - aldheim
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Makes you smarter than no school.
#87 to #86 - buttholee
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Not necessarily
#90 to #87 - aldheim
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Well I don't know what the **** you did in school, then.
#91 to #90 - buttholee
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Elementary school contradicts everything they teach every year... so I was that kind of kid who just learned on my own, and got in trouble for telling teachers off
#103 to #91 - pimpslapyoass
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It's not just elementary school is also middle school and high school since I remeber in any of my classes during nine weeks exams or even exams period. We would study things that had nothing to do with the test we were studying even with keep switching lessons because it'll help us move faster on what were suppost to be at of the end of the nine weeks or the year on the chapter. Like really?! **** that **** that only makes us students have to do more extra work that we shouldn't be doing ******* Education system in the US fails so hard.
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#110 - I Am Monkey
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New York spends more money on education than any other city in the country (probably the world) and our schools are absolute ****. Inner city schools are essentially million-dollar day care centers to keep the "students" off the streets. You can throw all the money you want at the problem, but when the culture you're trying to educate is vehemently opposed to learning there comes a point where you're just wasting tax payer money.
#124 to #110 - profanity
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Culture?

You mean *******, right?
#151 to #124 - muchasmarcos
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90% of the poulation. And the black people that i met during my life were all coledge educated. Then again i don't live in the US.
#131 to #110 - anon
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i can't imagine a normal public teacher in the USA getting paid enough.
#248 to #131 - I Am Monkey
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My parents are both public school teachers, they are paid very well.
#123 to #110 - rainking
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It also has more schools than any other city in the country. So that makes sense. And there are bad schools everywhere, and good schools too. And, I wouldn't say our culture isn't opposed to learning. In fact, I'd say that in the past few years the opposite has become true. Being smart is valued more and more. It's just that the structure of school is so tedious and repetitive, and the average attention span of kids and teens is dropping like a brick, so they just lose interest. We don't need more money in schools. We just need to update them to accomodate modern kids.
#1 - iamtheblackgoat
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Couldn't have said it better myself
Couldn't have said it better myself
#2 to #1 - bobthedilder
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Fancy meeting you here.
Fancy meeting you here.
#173 - screamingdemon
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That's probably one of the worst photos of John Green.
That's probably one of the worst photos of John Green.
#180 to #173 - loszombis
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i dont think its even a recent picture
#145 - savethepandas
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#197 to #145 - kiermatv
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you were saying?
#68 - ionocraft
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DFTBA
DFTBA
#51 - muffinssnuffims
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(05/09/2013) [-]
For some reason, I don't think your money is working well towards your goal...
#18 - ireallylikepotatoe
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I think we should have education so that my city in sim city is not full of crime.