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#263 - alucord (04/22/2013) [-]
Maybe Canada apologised for everything because they are secretly trying to rule the world
Maybe Canada apologised for everything because they are secretly trying to rule the world
#277 to #263 - rcomeau (04/22/2013) [-]
in Canada all we want is your maple trees so we can tap them to make more syrup... and we are willing to send in our toughest lumber jacks to accomplish this mission
User avatar #266 to #263 - iamcanadian (04/22/2013) [-]
We think of it as earning your trust and then manipulating it
#270 to #266 - alucord (04/22/2013) [-]
Well just because everyone else trusts you doesn't mean I don't know the truth now!
User avatar #271 to #270 - iamcanadian (04/22/2013) [-]
Oops



sorry
User avatar #343 to #263 - drdiddly (04/22/2013) [-]
Don't spoil our plans
User avatar #15 - warbob (04/21/2013) [-]
Implying USA doesn't have a lot of red on the flag.
#20 to #15 - captnpl (04/21/2013) [-]
less than half is red
#179 - namesboo (04/21/2013) [-]
They stay almost unknown then BAM they are nuking the **** out of you.
#180 to #179 - shpoopy (04/21/2013) [-]
**** albanians. they're the ************** of europe
#181 to #180 - namesboo (04/21/2013) [-]
Jesus what are you? the reincarnation of Hitler?
Jesus what are you? the reincarnation of Hitler?
#182 to #181 - shpoopy (04/21/2013) [-]
they stole my car wheels while i was there. i have my reasons :(
User avatar #186 to #182 - namesboo (04/21/2013) [-]
What if it was a Serb or Bosnian that moved to start a new life because they Stole too many cars back in Serbia or Bosnia so it led to everyone hating them so they thought they could start again in Albania but just fell into old habits?
User avatar #198 to #181 - cadaverbox (04/21/2013) [-]
you clearly havent experienced the plague that is ************* gypsies
#146 - anonymous (04/21/2013) [-]
Lincoln was elected democratically and the south left democratically, why is one okay but not the other?
User avatar #160 to #146 - Turmoil (04/21/2013) [-]
But the south did not leave democratically, the other half of the states did not want that. The constitution every state agreed to and signed was a binding contract, you cannot just exit a contract without consent from all others on it.
#164 to #160 - anonymous (04/21/2013) [-]
There was no law preventing the states from seceeding if they chose at the time, the south held a democratic vote to seceede and it passed.
#185 to #164 - Uranium (04/21/2013) [-]
Yes there was but it wasn't in the constitution it was in the articles of confederation which is still binding even today just many of the thing in it are superseded by the constitution but secession isn't one of them only state that succeeded legally was Texas it was except but after repatriating in 1865 they gave up their independence (many Texans forget that but it was part of the surrender at Appomattox)
#194 to #185 - anonymous (04/21/2013) [-]
The articles of the confederation were abandoned in 1786, the constitution thereafter had no laws governing secession.
#196 to #194 - Uranium (04/21/2013) [-]
Sorry to tell you but in this very specific instance thats not true.
#199 to #196 - anonymous (04/21/2013) [-]
The constitution created after 1786 superseded the articles, and only after the civil war did the supreme court make a ruling on secession.
#200 to #199 - Uranium (04/21/2013) [-]
Using the Articles of Confederation and the Whiskey Rebellion as precedent
#204 to #200 - anonymous (04/21/2013) [-]
The whiskey rebellion only refers challenging the government by extraconstitutional means, there was no court ruling on secession at the time, and nothing preventing it in the constitution.
User avatar #379 to #200 - Turmoil (04/22/2013) [-]
You are correct despite what the anon says, I simply used the constitution because I'm sure most people don't know what the articles of confederation are. Either way a state cannot actually secede, Texas included.
#161 to #146 - anonymous (04/21/2013) [-]
Because a person becoming president is not treason, whereas breaking binding oaths to a government and seceding is.
#165 to #161 - anonymous (04/21/2013) [-]
Might want to brush up on your 1800's law there anon.
User avatar #195 - dawgfan (04/21/2013) [-]
Technically the Union started the US Civil War.

The South succeed because the social and economic differences between the South and North were so great. The Union invaded For Sumter and the Civil War officially began.

#197 to #195 - mulletmafia (04/21/2013) [-]
kinda related..

i guess
User avatar #205 to #195 - nerdrugger (04/21/2013) [-]
fort sumter was a union fort and the confederacy attacked it on april 12 1861

and the main social and economic difference between the north and the south was slavary
and the south succeeded because of lincoln's views on slavery
#207 to #205 - anonymous (04/21/2013) [-]
After the secession the Union had no claim to anything within confederate territory.
User avatar #220 to #205 - dawgfan (04/22/2013) [-]
Way to show how little you know about US History there champ
User avatar #307 to #220 - nerdrugger (04/22/2013) [-]
you joking right?
#310 to #307 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
Not sure how you attack a fort you legally own.
User avatar #312 to #310 - nerdrugger (04/22/2013) [-]
when you are shooting cannons at people i think that is safe to say you are attacking someone
#316 to #312 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
Attacking the forces inside that are illegally occupying a structure you own.
User avatar #323 to #316 - nerdrugger (04/22/2013) [-]
their act of succession itself was illegal
you cant just declared yourself a new country and then attack the troops that were station their to keep you safe
#326 to #323 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
1.Secession was legal at the time, there was no laws against secession until after the civil war.
2.A sovereign nation has every right to forcibly remove a foreign force refusing to leave.
User avatar #334 to #326 - nerdrugger (04/22/2013) [-]
yahhhhhhhh that isnt trueeeeeeeee

well im pretty sure you're not an idiot with no understanding on how a country works and just tryin to "troll me" otherwise why would you be an anon posting here

#346 to #334 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
Show me anywhere in the constitution before 1869 any mention of secession, maybe look into the laws a little bit next time you go off stating something as fact.
User avatar #257 to #220 - jlew (04/22/2013) [-]
No he's right. Fort Sumter was a Northern Fort, it was attacked by the South.
He was technically right but worded it wrong when he said the South seceded because of Lincoln's views on Slavery. The South believed that Lincoln was going to instantly abolish slavery when in reality he was going to completely leave the issue alone.
The North actually needed the South's cotton and other agricultural products due to its high level of Industrialization and low amounts of land capable of being used to grow food and other products. The South wasn't really even thinking about its economic disadvantages when it seceded and planned to win with the support of Britain by selling them a bunch of cotton for weapons and other supplies.
The South did secede because of social differences. i.e. Slavery. The North had already abolished slavery and was feverishly trying to do so in the south as well. They believed, as did the South, that Lincoln was going to abolish slavery, but he didn't. The Emancipation Proclamation was actually pointless as it abolished slavery in places that it didn't have the jurisdiction to.
Try to argue with me. I read my history book, cover to cover.
#260 to #257 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
After the secession the union had no rights to Fort Sumter, since it was then in Confederate territory.
User avatar #280 to #260 - jlew (04/22/2013) [-]
Maybe now, but back then not so much. Britain still had forts in America until the 1800s.
Plus the fort was filled with union soldiers. The South could have at least given them a chance to leave, but it instead attacked while a supply ship was on its way down the river.
#285 to #280 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
The union soldiers had no rights to be there past the date of secession. And if the US asked Britian to leave it would've been legally compelled to.
User avatar #291 to #285 - jlew (04/22/2013) [-]
The union soldiers didn't have a CHANCE to leave past the date that the land they were in had seceded. Boats aren't exactly the fastest things in the world you know, especially not back then. And the US did ask Britain to leave. When we started our own country and won the Revolution part of the terms of the Treaty was that Britain would renounce ALL landownership it had in the Americas.
Anyway secession occurred over a long period of time, each state seceded at its own time so saying "the date of secession" is a little bit idiotic.
#295 to #291 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
The date of secession where the fort was located, and yes, South carolina ordered them to abandon the fort, they had knowledge of the secession and had plenty of time to prepare ships in case secession passed.
User avatar #300 to #295 - jlew (04/22/2013) [-]
Ships are still slow. The soldiers didn't actually pose a threat to the South. They could have been given more time, but the South was too trigger-happy and started the war.
No matter what the South is still responsible as they attacked first, the North had no plans or reasons to attack the South as they could have imported food as they had been doing even before secession.
#303 to #300 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
Keeping troops in a sovereign nation against its will was considered an act of war at the time, so technically speaking, no the union started the war when it refused to leave SC.
User avatar #304 to #303 - jlew (04/22/2013) [-]
Well you just bring your reasons to the people who revise the history books and see if they take your case.
#305 to #304 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
I've seen history books that state the south started the war and some that say the north did, I guess it comes down to perspective.
User avatar #239 to #220 - dawgfan (04/22/2013) [-]
Just realized I'm a dumbass at spelling
User avatar #249 to #195 - Lulzilla ONLINE (04/22/2013) [-]
I don't think you understand. An area cannot just go "Oh hey, We're going to be a completely different country now" without any ramifications. The south leaving destroys the norths economy. Plus having an area that is completely different and is known for it's violence is a complete threat. The moment they decided to succeed is the moment Civil war occurred. No shots need to be fired for a war to start.
#252 to #249 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
Legally at the time, yes any state could leave if they voted on it.
User avatar #269 to #252 - Lulzilla ONLINE (04/22/2013) [-]
Yeah it was legal for a state to leave when ever it wanted to but I'm pretty sure the people who created it had NO idea that half the country would become a different country. Regardless if they had the right in order for any country to survive and become anything they needed to stay together which the North understood. The north(Union)'s reason for civil war was to preserve the country. Ending slavery was just an additional thing.
#272 to #269 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
The people who created it seceeded to create their own country, they knew full well it could happen. And the point still stands the south had every right to leave the union, regardless of the ramifications.
User avatar #279 to #272 - Lulzilla ONLINE (04/22/2013) [-]
It's so much easier to say that when you look at yourself as a regular civilian. Think about if you were high up in the government. Imagine yourself as the president. Half of your country leaves and becomes a different country. HALF of it. Half of England didn't leave. Only a tiny bit. Also they became a different country. The north let the states succeed. When they attacked (Yes the south attacked first) the President had to do something.
#282 to #279 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
The 13 colonies were what 3 times bigger than england? The south went to claim land within their boundaries northern troops refused to leave, taking back land on their jurisdiction was completely justified.
User avatar #287 to #282 - Lulzilla ONLINE (04/22/2013) [-]
I'm sorry but that's just foolish. If there were 3 times more people in the colonies then in England it wouldn't be called a colony anymore. Hell they'd just call that England. The amount of people in the colonies during the war for Independence were 2 to almost 3 times LESS then in England.
#289 to #287 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
The landmass was 3 times bigger.
User avatar #292 to #289 - Lulzilla ONLINE (04/22/2013) [-]
That's something COMPLETELY different. Granted I said the land was as important or more important. Also regardless of what I said England invaded and tried to keep us from leaving. How is whatever your trying to tell me going towards not my opinion because it sounds like your backing MY opinion up.
#298 to #292 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
My point was it wasn't a tiny bit of england that left as you stated.
User avatar #281 to #279 - jlew (04/22/2013) [-]
It wasn't really half. Most of the population was in the North at the time and a huge percentage of the southern population was slaves, who couldn't even fight until they were forced to towards the end of the war.
User avatar #283 to #281 - Lulzilla ONLINE (04/22/2013) [-]
I'm not talking about population wise. Even to this day most of the population is in the North. I'm talking about land wise which itself is equally or more important.
User avatar #286 to #283 - jlew (04/22/2013) [-]
Ok then. It was still a bit under half though as not all of the landmass had been claimed yet. Almost all of the agricultural land was in the south however so it was a pretty big hit.
User avatar #259 to #249 - jlew (04/22/2013) [-]
The Northern Economy actually exploded during the Civil War. It grew by about 90%.
The Southern Economy was the one that was destroyed.
User avatar #374 - klick (04/22/2013) [-]
Canada is totally the next world terror.
User avatar #359 - lulzdealer ONLINE (04/22/2013) [-]
When did the Confederacy ever try to execute large amounts of people?

User avatar #369 to #359 - combatarms (04/22/2013) [-]
when they encountered black soldiers and their officers
#371 to #369 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
Shooting at opposing forces invading their lands, the monsters.
User avatar #370 to #369 - lulzdealer ONLINE (04/22/2013) [-]
That =/= genocide
User avatar #372 to #370 - combatarms (04/22/2013) [-]
you didn't ask about genocide, you asked about executions.
User avatar #376 to #372 - lulzdealer ONLINE (04/22/2013) [-]
"execute large amounts of people". That is genocide, by it's very definition. That's also what this content is about.
User avatar #377 to #359 - pajamashark (04/22/2013) [-]
He said he knew who history's "next bad guy" would be. In that respect, the Confederacy could fit with the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany as "bad guys". At least to the U.S.
#378 to #377 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
It does say "any time a country has tried to kill everyone" as well.
#328 - garymfnoak (04/22/2013) [-]
Not Voltorb!
#315 - ghouleyed (04/22/2013) [-]
**ghouleyed rolled a random image posted in comment #3954797 at My Little Pony fanfiction, backgrounds, songs, lyrics, and GIFs. ** <- Me when WWIII starts
**ghouleyed rolled a random image posted in comment #3954797 at My Little Pony fanfiction, backgrounds, songs, lyrics, and GIFs. ** <- Me when WWIII starts
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#231 - solarisofcelestia (04/22/2013) [-]
I'll just leave this here. Also an important thing to remember is that history is written by the winners of war, not those who are truly correct in the causes they support. War does not decide who is right, war decides who is left.
#256 to #231 - JHDog (04/22/2013) [-]
this might be stupid, but is that from bioshock?
#296 to #256 - solarisofcelestia (04/22/2013) [-]
Yes it is from Bioshock.
Yes it is from Bioshock.
User avatar #308 to #231 - ghouleyed (04/22/2013) [-]
It would be nice if everything happened like in Bioshock Infinity in the end
User avatar #215 - Nihem (04/21/2013) [-]
The US has a lot of red, too.
User avatar #206 - ilikethisusername ONLINE (04/21/2013) [-]
who the **** would canada want to hurt? canada is such a nice place D: eh?
User avatar #187 - Loppytaffy (04/21/2013) [-]
It's almost as historically inaccurate as Hetalia. But not nearly as enjoyable.

Also Montenegro, Isle of Man, Morocco, Tunisia, Turkey, Vietnam, Indonesia/Monaco/Singapore (depending on which one that one isn't), Poland, Angola, Burkina Faso, Gibraltar, Haiti, Leichtenstein, Bahrain, Malta, Portugal, Switzerland, Austria, Latvia, Lebanon, Peru, Mongolia, Hong Kong, Myanmar, Samoa, Taiwan, Bermuda, Trinidad and Tobago, Belarus, Nepal, Suriname, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Spain, French Polynesia, Albania, Cambodia, Tonga , Malta, Norway, and the Orkney Islands are all red on at least half their respective flags. Just sayin.

And North Korea. Thought I'd throw that out there.
User avatar #202 to #187 - bahrain (04/21/2013) [-]
he's right you know.
#5 - Suckafied (04/21/2013) [-]
you think canadians play hockey for fun? heh heh heh
User avatar #8 to #5 - tenaciousjon (04/21/2013) [-]
You think those fist-fights are just part of the game?

That's combat training, buddy.
#18 to #5 - anonymous (04/21/2013) [-]
*hyuk hyuk hyuk
#61 - SuperSixONE (04/21/2013) [-]
Even Iraq and Afghanistan!
#10 - anonymous (04/21/2013) [-]
The joke is that americas flag has lots of red.
america is full of commies.
#76 to #10 - anonymous (04/21/2013) [-]
Clearly.
#97 - lunacy (04/21/2013) [-]
So much red and green its like Christmas up in this bitch.   
   
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So much red and green its like Christmas up in this bitch.

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User avatar #60 - DCat (04/21/2013) [-]
Those damn crafty Canadians.
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