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#241 - flutterbye
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In this scenario, at what point is the girl too drunk to be held responsible for her decisions? It is not something that you can classify and that is what makes this such a complicated issue.
#188 - kingosiris
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I don't know why Ryan Glosing is in this picture, but it seems more legit with him in it.
#204 to #188 - SgtObvious
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Ryan Glosing
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User avatar #77 - fuzzlefeenix
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but the car didn't attempt to make her drive it, whereas it's very possible a man could make a girl sleep with him... Also a man can still **** a woman if she's too drunk to move or resist, which can't happen with driving.
#91 to #77 - giggitygantz
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what about if both parties are drunk is the man more accountable because he is a man?
User avatar #85 to #77 - Zarakima
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Valid points both, however that's the difference between real rape and 'oh I regret my drunken actions, I was raped' rape, something. Of course those who commit real rape deserve punishment, but this whole thing of calling a drunken mistake 'rape' is just plain disrespectful to real rape victims as well as having massive repercussions on the life of an accused innocent, and it is women who use this 'false victimhood' not men. It is a terrible problem especially since you're pretty much taking either person's word for it, and it's more a situation of 'are they telling the truth or are they just a good actor', and the female 'victim' is often given the benefit of the doubt, despite the consequences for the accused being arguably equally impacting on their life as being raped.
User avatar #86 to #85 - Zarakima
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disregard the 'something' at the end of the first sentence
#75 - avatarsarefornoobs
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this is stupid, both parties are at fault...
why do i even bother? this post sucks, where's the funny?
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#185 to #78 - anon id: b2baf35f
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He literally said "BOTH parties are at fault." Meaning the male AND the female.
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User avatar #11 - backupclover
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This is funny because I just finished watching the Notebook.
#8 - anon id: 1f559c67
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Actually Ryan Gosling is a moderate feminist so highly unlikely that he said this.

As for the statement, there is a difference between claiming rape when the drunk sex was consensual and claiming rape when a woman could not say yes or no.
#16 to #8 - fuckyouto
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I do not believe in man taking advantage of a women. I also do not believe a lady should get so drunk she could not say no.
User avatar #62 to #16 - greatboobya
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Women - plural of woman.
#59 to #8 - anon id: 1a11644e
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If he is truely out to help women be taken more seriously, then i can totally under why he would say this. Because the situation he described is degrading to women.

Basicly you are giving in to the idea that women are delicate little flowers who's judgement cannot be trusted and need special protection from the more powerful men. All cool and dandy if you want to yell rape at everything, but you cant turn around and expect to be taken seriously.

thats why women have to work much harder to get higher up, and into positions of power and authority. Because they have to work their ass off to proof they are not the delicate little flowers who cant take responsibility that society is portraying them to be.
#30 to #8 - jurkowski
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Feminism is not about empowering women. It's about equalizing the genders. On this subject, the current schism is that drunk chicks may claim rape after a drunk one-night stand, while men, while I would not say cannot, do not. A true Feminist would want to either force women to accept their irresponsible actions while drunk a bit more rather than fall back on rape charges after they sober up, or make it more socially acceptable for men to claim rape charges as well, or possibly both.
#164 to #30 - unikornking
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Feminism is not about equalizing genders. Every single feminist believes that EVERY single unequality between genders is female unequality, and that there is absolutely NO unequalities for men. Even if you bring up stuff like harsher sentences for crimes and less rights as a parent and child support stuff, the smarter feminists will say it's apart of the patriarchy, but retards ie tumblr feminists will just deny it and give no reason and be disgusted that someone even try to argue that men have unequalities
User avatar #193 to #164 - coolcalx
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every single feminist? EVERY single one?

really? are you sure about that? You claim to be omniscient?
User avatar #205 to #193 - unikornking
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Find a feminist that doesn't believe this. Like seriously this is the base of feminism, it's called patriarchy.
#210 to #205 - coolcalx
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okay.

oh wow! now your entire argument is invalidated!

maybe you should have chosen language that wasn't so harsh and adamant about "absolute truth"

A great thing to learn is that "you don't know everything."
don't act like you do.
User avatar #228 to #210 - unikornking
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Thats like saying you're a christian but don't believe in God. A feminist that doesn't believe in partriarchy isn't a feminist. I don't remember the name of people who want equality in both genders and accept that there are unequalites for both genders, but it's not a feminist. In the image you posted she doesn't say anything about men having unequalites, therefore I fail to see how my argument is invalid. I do however apologize for my ignorance in my first statement I wasn't really thinking.
User avatar #244 to #228 - mayormilkman
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Egalitarians are for gender equality.
#246 to #244 - jurkowski
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I figure I'd throw this link in here, since so far this has all been conjecture formed from opinions. www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-entertainment/201205/giving-feminism-bad-name
User avatar #250 to #246 - mayormilkman
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Fasntnig. Like the other guy, though, I don't really want to associate with feminism. I'll just have an "independent" stance on the subject.
User avatar #248 to #246 - unikornking
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I really don't think one person can simply "define" feminism. It's a majority of man hating women who are ridiculously stupid. Even though there are logical ones who do want equality I don't think they should call themselves feminists. It's tainted, like the article states some women were even offended at being called a feminist. That's why I think there's Egalitarianism, it's for people who truly want to be equals.
User avatar #259 to #248 - coolcalx
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someone can't define feminism, yet you're attempting to do so.

You haven't formed a single logical thought in quite a while.
#249 to #248 - jurkowski
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True enough. I consider myself an egalitarian under these circumstances, but what I'm more annoyed by is the twisting of the English language's definitions over time due to fanatics.
User avatar #261 - liuur
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This is an equal opportunity country; both parties are equally responsible for a drunken *******.
#191 - anon id: 95276e3c
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You know this is just sad. You guys go around proclaim like women falsely accusing men of rape is a problem. Does it happen? Yeah. Is it a social problem? No. The number is extremely low, unlike rape and the number of rapists that never get punished. Rape culture is running rampant and this is a damn fine example of it.
User avatar #220 to #191 - mayormilkman
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Go back to Tumblr. How do we know of all these unreported cases/rapists?
#190 - sweetellie
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I read a story in a magazine about this girl who had unprotected sex with her boyfriend and she was so ashamed of herself that she cut herself and ripped her clothes and then told the police that someone raped her. She even identified this poor random guy who didn't do anything wrong in police line ups because he matched her fake description.   
She ruined an innocent person's life because of her own stupid mistake. Just reading about it filled me with rage.
I read a story in a magazine about this girl who had unprotected sex with her boyfriend and she was so ashamed of herself that she cut herself and ripped her clothes and then told the police that someone raped her. She even identified this poor random guy who didn't do anything wrong in police line ups because he matched her fake description.
She ruined an innocent person's life because of her own stupid mistake. Just reading about it filled me with rage.
User avatar #224 to #190 - princeofbrokensoul
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did he get out?
User avatar #225 to #224 - sweetellie
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Yeah, in the end she admitted she lied about it.
User avatar #232 to #225 - princeofbrokensoul
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good at least she was smart enough not to ruin his life anymore.
User avatar #234 to #232 - sweetellie
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Yeah. She didn't get in any trouble for it though, which seems unfair.
User avatar #245 to #234 - princeofbrokensoul
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thats stupid
User avatar #239 to #234 - zorororonoa
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How did she not get in trouble? Isn't lying and submitting a false report considered a criminal offense?
User avatar #240 to #239 - sweetellie
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Nobody seemed to care that she lied though. I dunno why.
#257 to #240 - rodneyabc
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Sets a weird legal precedent, it would mean that anyone declared not guilty of rape could form a counter suit against their accuser. Creates a nasty situation where you're actually putting yourself at risk for taking someone to trial.
User avatar #182 - kingbulbasaur
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Pretty sure this is the reason why all ads for beer 'n **** say 'drink responsibly'.
We have a good thing going and someone's always gotta ruin it.
#104 - broorb
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Hah this is some of the most flawed logic I've seen in a while
Hah this is some of the most flawed logic I've seen in a while
#108 to #104 - anon id: aa124a2e
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if a man and a woman both get drunk, only one gets to shout rape.

can you guess who?
#109 to #108 - broorb
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it's tricky though - he's making a very broad statement. yours is a little different to what he's saying
User avatar #114 to #109 - yuukiii
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the word you are looking for is Willingly
a drunk person can still say yes or no to sex
as long as they are not black out sleeping somewhere a girl who wants to ride a dick will ride just about any dick they can find. the only reason they say "rape" or some **** is because its a friend of theirs, a guy who they dont really know or maybe :o he was just ugly. girls are stupid mostly the ones who know they ****** up but still blame other people.
#116 to #114 - broorb
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Nicely put. In any case, if a person can't consent while drunk, best not to go there at all - however, if both members involved are drunk, I agree, no blame should be exerted
User avatar #119 to #116 - yuukiii
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yea that is true, that s mostly the only reason i wouldnt drink if the person im with is staying sober. although we may be friends i know something feels a bit off when they try to offer me shots or something and im alone with them.
#120 to #119 - broorb
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Yeah definitely. wise choice that. The few times I have gotten drunk with just one other person, it hasn't ended particularly inspiringly, hahahah
User avatar #121 to #120 - yuukiii
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that sucks :O but now you know :P
#122 to #121 - broorb
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yep, 's all a lesson in the end, eh
User avatar #103 - mouthwash
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I thought this would be something about gun control
#96 - architectakadongus
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Ryan Gosling never said this. You are such a neckbeard piece of ****.
#80 - anon id: ddef6819
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ryan gosling the closet rapist
User avatar #64 - weenieandthebutt
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The guy is a sleazebag, not a rapist. There's a difference. When you're *********, you just tend to act upon your subconscious and do things that you secretly wanted to do without those morals getting in the way. If it's not forced or against her will, it's not rape; as simple as that. As a drunk, I've been banned from a town, I've madeout with munters and even one old woman (don't ask), I'd gotten myself into silly accidents where I'd broken my teeth but those were all my mistakes to live with. Problem with this god damn women is that they love to abuse the notion of feminism and falsely implement it as their sanctuary of innocence.
User avatar #67 to #64 - basilbrush
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The guy could be pissed too. Is he still a sleazebag?
User avatar #68 to #67 - weenieandthebutt
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in that case, no
#36 - pappathethird
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Did the Gos really say that?
#73 to #36 - bitchpleas [OP]
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Dunno.. but like i said, I found this some place a long time ago. I do not have a source, but this is the internett
User avatar #23 - infinitereaper
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Here's my argument:

Why the **** would you drink so much you can't see, walk, or not black out in the first place?

It's like doing cocaine and going to a childrens play ground.
#34 to #23 - anon id: 412ccc64
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Your metaphor is ******* horrible. They don't relate at all.
User avatar #35 to #34 - infinitereaper
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The point is that you can't take a risky action put yourself in at risky situation and except to come off 100% Scott free 100% of time. You have much less chance of being hit by a car if you look both ways before you cross the street, ergo we are really talking about risk assessment and human stupidity here.

Use your noggin'
User avatar #41 to #23 - kyrozor
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I did that once, bit the head off an earphone and I quote "Like you were biting the head off a snake" because me and my friend were trying to drink each other under the table.

I won.
User avatar #70 to #23 - tempfaux
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Well she was 15 at the time so probably had no idea what her limits were when it comes to alcohol.
#12 - anon id: 403fd0bf
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Yeah, he didn't say this. I really really wish he did. Either way **** you faggot ********* OP ************ for being stupid enough to believe and post this. Bitchtits.
#10 - extrema
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But isn't it her fault for drinking and driving?