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#132 - Pompano
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(04/19/2013) [-]
Hey girl,

I never said that.
#107 - mondprinzessin
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(04/19/2013) [-]
the same could be said for guns
the same could be said for guns
#98 - SquishyHaribo
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(04/19/2013) [-]
but a car doesn't try to get you to drive it...
#66 - ThatFuckingGuy
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(04/19/2013) [-]
Funnyjunk condoning rape.
Surprising
#83 to #66 - AresX
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(04/19/2013) [-]
They've been pretty bad recently, my fiancée has actually had to stay off the site.
#172 to #66 - anon
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>All the top-rated comments criticize the quote
>FJ condoning rape
#87 to #66 - Zarakima
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I wouldn't say this post condones rape, It just points out (rather one sidedly) the unfairness of some women claiming false victimhood due to regret. Nobody is saying 'if you are raped when you're drunk, it's your fault' people are saying that if you have consensual sex while you're drunk it's your fault, which it is.
#46 - HooksaN
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(04/19/2013) [-]
If it was K.I.T. ...   
...and K.I.T. had spent an hour giving the woman loads of drinks, with the intention of waiting until she was drunk...   
...and at that point convinced her to drive him, knowing she had no idea what she was doing...   
   
   
...then yeah, its pretty much the same. ;)   
   
TLDR: yeah, some girls are f*****g stupid and put themselves in stupid situations, but the guys still know whats going on and choose to do it.
If it was K.I.T. ...
...and K.I.T. had spent an hour giving the woman loads of drinks, with the intention of waiting until she was drunk...
...and at that point convinced her to drive him, knowing she had no idea what she was doing...


...then yeah, its pretty much the same. ;)

TLDR: yeah, some girls are f*****g stupid and put themselves in stupid situations, but the guys still know whats going on and choose to do it.
#173 - jusbox
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(04/19/2013) [-]
A car is not a sentient being with a responsibility towards society and it's fellow men.



just throwing it out there
#149 - uwootmate
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(04/19/2013) [-]
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#58 - tehcashew
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(04/19/2013) [-]
I said this a while ago on a different post

"- Here in America it basically works like this (all examples are under the assumption the girl did give consent):
- If the guy is ****** and the girl is ****** then the man raped her, If the man is sober ad the girl is ****** then the man raped her, If the man is ****** and the girl is sober the girl claims rape and is believed, If the man is sober and the girl had one drink the man raped her, if both are sober then the girl claims she was drunk, is believed, and the man is charged with rape.

-In all situations the girl is going to be believed and the man will go to jail because the woman doesn't want to accept responsibility for her actions"
#17 - stickandmove
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(04/19/2013) [-]
That all depends on how much of an effort is exerted in convincing her to get in her pants, really.

If you're sober and pleading for someone whose judgement is impaired to sleep with you, you're a dog and should brought out back to be put down like one.
#222 - xjessicaxrabbitx
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(04/19/2013) [-]
False accusations happen, yes, but they are infrequent. Most crime, including rape, is not reported. Imagine being in the position to accuse someone of rape. It's not a pleasant experience. You have rape kits, have to restate what happened, etc. It's a pretty traumatic experience to begin with and then extremely difficult to go though. No sane person will go through that willingly just for petty revenge.

What really bugs me, though, is people keep trying to define rape. Unwanted sex. That's it. Don't imagine how you would react in a victim's situation. You are not the victim. Maybe you would've consented. They didn't. If someone seems too drunk to say yes and mean it, don't have sex with them. It's really not that hard to just walk away and avoid potential trouble.
#235 to #222 - ZeDoodler
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(04/19/2013) [-]
This is very true, however, there's a large difference between, "I was drunk and he forced sex on me after I explicitly said no" and, "I was drunk and had sex with him and now I regret it."
This is very true, however, there's a large difference between, "I was drunk and he forced sex on me after I explicitly said no" and, "I was drunk and had sex with him and now I regret it."
#238 to #235 - xjessicaxrabbitx
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There's also a difference between, "I was too drunk to say yes," and "I was drunk and had sex." Some people are okay having sex when drunk and some people aren't. It's just safe to say no to someone who is drunk if you don't know them well enough to judge which kind of person they are.
#242 to #238 - ZeDoodler
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And that's exactly the point this post is trying to make. There should be no "I was too drunk to say yes or no" because if you're at the point of blacked-out unconscious and someone decides to have sex with your limp dead-weight body, you really should just not be that drunk. Or decide that's probably not a good idea to associate with someone who might do that. It's a question of morals not on what you decide to do with your body, but where you decide to place it. IE: Drunk driver vs. drunk rider.
#243 to #242 - xjessicaxrabbitx
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I disagree. People often get blackout drunk. It's commonplace in society. How often are we told of amazing parties that no one remembers the end of? And you do not have to be passed out and drunk to not be able to say yes. It's wrong to blame the victim. Not to say they could not have made better choices. There are ways to be safer. There are also ways that someone can avoid a potential rape from the other point of vie. If you are willing to say that a person should not get too drunk you have to be willing to say that someone else should not have sex with someone too drunk. It's wrong, though, to say they are at fault for what occurred. Victim blaming does not help anyone but rapists.

I do not think many who wake up and regret the act feel it is rape. Most of them tend to blame themselves, feel embarrassed, and try and ignore what happened. As most rape is not reported it's pretty safe to assume that accusations are rare, kind of ending the whole theory that drunk girls filled with regret cry rape. Statistically speaking most won't report anything, even if it was rape.
#162 - incest
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(04/19/2013) [-]
Personally, I think there is a fine line, although the truthfulness of both parties are often lacking.

For instance, were a woman to be absolutely ******** wasted, close to blacking out, and a man were sober for the soul intent to be able to take advantage of that, I do believe that crosses the boundary of rape.

No, not that the woman got drunk then regretted it the next day, but because she was unable to comprehend the situation and give an input (IE Yes or No) to the present circumstances.
#151 - chthulhu
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#113 - thechosentroll
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#115 to #113 - mettih
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(04/19/2013) [-]
Do you post that on every ******* post?
#117 to #115 - thechosentroll
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#102 - toaki
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(04/19/2013) [-]
I'm not against it or anything

but there is a flaw on his concept
A car do not have moral obligation and can make no decision
#110 to #102 - yuukiii
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(04/19/2013) [-]
well to be quite honest i have done something stupid while drunk just like any other person, but everyone was also drunk (or on some type of drug idr) anyways some people like myself actually LEARN and REALIZED that what happen that night was also my own fault. No one was actually sober, we were all just trying to have fun and bam... something happen that shouldnt have happen. but instead of saying "omg he took advantage of me! :o" i simply went up to the guy and told him "hey we were both really drunk what happened has happen, i did not like that it happen. i can not hate you 100% because it was also my own fault, we can still try to be friends but that will probly wont last long." and i was right nothing bad has happen since because i know better people and i do not try to get so drunk just buzzed.

TL;DR
Guys also get drunk, just because a girl is drunk too doesnt mean a guy has to "make sure" she is sober enough to understand what they are doing because NO ONE IS 100% SOBER at parties. but yes it is bad to rape someone who is passed out.
#93 - CaptainKill
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(04/19/2013) [-]
Here's how I see things.

One of the biggest points to me is that you don't "accidentally" drink. It's your own decision and the things that happen by your actions due to it are your responsibility, like drinking and driving.

Also, if you are at a social gathering, a bar, etc, what do YOU think most people are there for? To be cute and innocent? No, in many cases people are there to ****, plain and simple. By thinking nothing bad can happen by you being there and getting drunk is flat out naive.

Now with that said, I don't think it's ok to take advantage of drunk people, especially for sex. However, like I said, if it does happen, the drunk person can't act like the situation was unavoidable.

TL;DR: Having sex with a drunk person is morally wrong to me but technically acceptable.
#61 - DrAlt
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If she's drunk out of her mind, there is no 'will' present in 'willing'.
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#111 to #81 - lovelyredlizard
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Technically speaking if you sleep with anyone who is under the influence of alcohol it can be considered as rape. Obviously that is rather idiotic as alcohol does mess up judgement and lead to a lot of ugly guys to get laid.

It shouldn't be rape if a girl agrees and then regrets it. However it is rape if the girl is passed out or shows unwillingness before or during. The problem is taht it is very hard to prove either.
#84 to #81 - DrAlt
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So if you get drunk out of your mind and a bi-guy takes advantage of your butt, it's not rape?
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#94 to #90 - DrAlt
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I'm sure some of those girls you are talking about feel the same way. "No matter how drunk I am that's not going to happen."

But if metrosexual butt fetish guy took your anal virginity while you were so blitzed you couldn't fall off the floor, then it would be rape, right?
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#29 - mattandstuff
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you put ryan's face there just so the fan girls would get pissy....i like the way you work
you put ryan's face there just so the fan girls would get pissy....i like the way you work
#188 - kingosiris
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(04/19/2013) [-]
I don't know why Ryan Glosing is in this picture, but it seems more legit with him in it.
#204 to #188 - SgtObvious
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Ryan Glosing
#77 - fuzzlefeenix
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but the car didn't attempt to make her drive it, whereas it's very possible a man could make a girl sleep with him... Also a man can still **** a woman if she's too drunk to move or resist, which can't happen with driving.
#91 to #77 - giggitygantz
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what about if both parties are drunk is the man more accountable because he is a man?
#85 to #77 - Zarakima
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Valid points both, however that's the difference between real rape and 'oh I regret my drunken actions, I was raped' rape, something. Of course those who commit real rape deserve punishment, but this whole thing of calling a drunken mistake 'rape' is just plain disrespectful to real rape victims as well as having massive repercussions on the life of an accused innocent, and it is women who use this 'false victimhood' not men. It is a terrible problem especially since you're pretty much taking either person's word for it, and it's more a situation of 'are they telling the truth or are they just a good actor', and the female 'victim' is often given the benefit of the doubt, despite the consequences for the accused being arguably equally impacting on their life as being raped.
#86 to #85 - Zarakima
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(04/19/2013) [-]
disregard the 'something' at the end of the first sentence
#75 - avatarsarefornoobs
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this is stupid, both parties are at fault...
why do i even bother? this post sucks, where's the funny?
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#185 to #78 - anon
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He literally said "BOTH parties are at fault." Meaning the male AND the female.
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