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#75 - reginleif
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Free speech (that doesn't involve threats or actively encourages violence) is a non negotiable right for me. I don't see how Canada rated higher on the freedom index than the US without it. 0.o

At any rate, it is not the Westboro baptist church I defend, it is the idea that you and I ought to be able to say what we want without the government deciding what is legal or not.

Shame on you FunnyJunkers for supporting what is essentially government censorship. -.-
#82 to #75 - dunkleosteus
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(03/26/2013) [-]
I don't see why it's so important to be able to say something hateful. Why is more freedom necessarily better? Would you have liked if your parents stepped in when the bully next door pushed you in the dirt or sat back and watched when he wailed on you? Sometimes it's nice to have someone (or some government) watching out for you.
#90 to #82 - reginleif
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(03/26/2013) [-]
That is violence though, not speech. I said already that violence and speech that threatens or encourages violence ought to be banned.
#92 to #90 - dunkleosteus
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(03/26/2013) [-]
the physical pain inflicted by the bully might not be as bad as the emotional. No one likes to be treated like dirt
#93 to #92 - reginleif
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(03/26/2013) [-]
So our solution is to compel people to behave as we wish? There are assholes everywhere, we can't legislate kindness or civil behavior.
#110 to #93 - alexthecanadian
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Actually, you can.
In Canada we have, and it seems to be working.
I guess this is why I live in Canada, and you live in the United States.
As I do see your point: Where do we stop? When the government censors one thing, they can sensor anything.

Well, if the government started censoring what ever it pleased, there would be an election in a second.
#258 to #75 - Crusader
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Well no, you are assuming that the government explicitly said "the WBC can't say those things"
When really, the way our freedom of expression works is that you can say or do whatever you want, as long as it does not infringe upon the rights of others, or promote hate towards a group.
ie, you can say "I don't like Islam"
but you can't say "Islam shouldn't exist"
#389 to #75 - trevcars
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Research first, so then you don't look like a total tool....sorry
#79 to #75 - yourociroll
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(03/26/2013) [-]
They're considered a radical group is why they're not allowed. Same for the KKK etc are not allowed in the borders (allthough theres quite a bit of racism once you talk to anyone over 30 lol)
#103 to #75 - alexthecanadian
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Learn about Canada's laws.
Freedom of Speech does not exist here.
There is no such thing.
It is called "Freedom of Expression".
I love this law.
It protects everybody's rights.
If you are a ************* racist cunt sack, I have the right to sue your ass.
HOWEVER, one does have a right to think it, and say it.
While one also retains the right to sue said individual for making said illegal remark.

It is a complex law and very hard to explain in funnyjunk post.
Look it up.
I think it is very interesting.

The Westboro Baptist Church (if we are to even call them a Church) people were blocked because they wanted to incite hate against Muslims on the property of the Ontario Provincial Legislature. That is illegal here, thank God, and were turned back after the CBSA confiscated anti-Muslim posters from one of their vehicles.

pic semi related
#158 to #103 - snowshark
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(03/26/2013) [-]
That picture gives me the best idea ever...

You know that 'Murica! pic of the fat guy on the rascal scooter with a machine gun? Well how about a canadian equivalent that is a Mountie with a hockey-stick in one hand, bagged milk in the other riding a moose with the heads of terrorists impaled on the tips of the antlers standing in the middle of a snowy forest.

Then the caption underneath. "Canada!"

We gotta get a drawfag on that ****, stat!
#154 to #103 - anon
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(03/26/2013) [-]
The Freedom of Expression sounds, in no offence, Retarded.
It might hurt your feelings, It might make you think twice about your own country, But it's a racial slur. It's ment to insult you. The most stupid thing you could do is sue them for insulting you. Now, if they start creating hysteria from being racist, then its the time to think about legal actions
#211 to #154 - alexthecanadian
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Nice job posting as Anon.

It has nothing to do with hurting anyones feelings.
It has to do with protecting the dignity of every Canadian.
It has to do with protecting a multi-cultural society.
It has to do with preserving the rights, freedoms, and safety of all in Canada.

The law is doing exactly what it is supposed to be doing: Preventing hate crimes, preserving the dignity of all, and keeping society civil and peaceful.
#83 to #75 - werrew [OP]
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(03/26/2013) [-]
My poor misguided fellow, let me kindly explain to you why your wrong. I too absolutism hate Government censorship, but in these situations I do not. Everybody has the freedom to speak their opinions openly, until that opinion violates the right of others. At that point it would be viewed as "Hate speech" In that case the Government must protect these citizens by removing one right from another group. I know it seems harsh, but that's life. Also many Canadians don't really mind that the WBC is banned.


TL;DR: Hate speech is ok to be censored because it violates the right of others on a more sever scale and most Canadians don't mind intolerant views being censored because we can read this **** on the Internet if we want to
#89 to #83 - Endofzeeworld
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Hate speech is not okay to be censored unless someone is screaming in your face. Peaceful protestation, even if it is of a military funeral (Something which I consider so vile and disgusting it makes my head spin) is a fundamental right by which I will always stand.

TL;DR: I may not agree with what you say but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
#88 to #83 - reginleif
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Hate speech can also be used as a tool for the current group in power to stop the opposition.

Who gets to say what is or is not hate speech? Plenty of negative things get said about groups ALL the time but NOT ALL of them are persecuted against!

I believe that everyone (including the KKK, (I am not white)) ought to be able to say what they want if they are not promoting violence or threatening people. Otherwise your speech and mine are up for grabs whenever a political party enters office.
#86 to #83 - werrew [OP]
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Absolutely *
#212 - DaShae
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Citation needed
#371 to #212 - werrew [OP]
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#52 - clowheights
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(03/26/2013) [-]
yea
#15 - pinkiepiethecunt
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(03/26/2013) [-]
I hope this isn't true. I thought the West was meant to be the home of fee speech even if its right or wrong. All the world needs is more ******** restricting rules.
I hope this isn't true. I thought the West was meant to be the home of fee speech even if its right or wrong. All the world needs is more ******** restricting rules.
#17 to #15 - godtherapist
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(03/26/2013) [-]
You are under the assumption hat Canada has Free Speech. This is untrue.
#20 to #17 - pinkiepiethecunt
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(03/26/2013) [-]
I can see by the post they haven't. But us Westerns are meant to get rid of these rules, not make them. That era is other
#16 to #15 - pinkiepiethecunt
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Free speech*
#21 to #15 - haseotakaeda
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(03/26/2013) [-]
There this thing called hate crimes you stupid mother ****
There this thing called hate crimes you stupid mother ****
#23 to #21 - douthit
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(03/26/2013) [-]
There is no such thing as "hate" crimes. It's a precursor to ThoughtCrime.
#28 to #23 - haseotakaeda
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"Hate crime" generally refers to criminal acts that are seen to have been motivated by bias against one or more of the types above, or of their derivatives. Incidents may involve physical assault, damage to property, bullying, harassment, verbal abuse or insults, or offensive graffiti or letters (hate mail).[3]

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#36 to #28 - anon
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Hate crime is stupid.

A crime is a crime, no matter what.

The idea of hate crime just pushes people of different races and religions further apart.
#25 to #21 - pinkiepiethecunt
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(03/26/2013) [-]
People should be allowed what they want to say. The government should have no power over peoples views.
#299 to #25 - JuliusC
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(03/26/2013) [-]
why in the hell is this thumbed down, this, of many comments ive seen here CANNOT POSSIBLY be offensive to 99% of funnyjunkers. Its probably because fj likes to act as a collective, going along with what the group says, even if it steamrolls any logical statements...
#40 to #15 - thisotherdude
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(03/26/2013) [-]
We've given people absolute freedom in the past and it hasn't worked out very well, humans need some control or they'll **** everything up.
#3 - beasert
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(03/25/2013) [-]
They are specifically banning members if they are coming to protest, not just because they are members.
#356 - nephrithotroll
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Westboro Bapist church have the freedom to say and do what they want?   
So do have the Canadian government.   
they have the right to take their rights to enter the country.
Westboro Bapist church have the freedom to say and do what they want?
So do have the Canadian government.
they have the right to take their rights to enter the country.
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#358 to #356 - scapeartist
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Believe me, you do not want them in Canada. They're just a hate group trying to spark violence in your beloved country.
#360 to #358 - nephrithotroll
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Oh I believe you that they are a bunch of mongoloids.
#363 to #360 - scapeartist
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(03/26/2013) [-]
These peeople thank god for natural disasters/wars.
They were actually planning to protest at the funerals of the victims of the Newtown, Conneticut shooting. These sick people believe “God sent the shooter” because gay marriage was legalized in many states.Thank god Anonymous responded by organizing a human wall to shield the victims' families.
#326 - durkadurka ONLINE
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(03/26/2013) [-]
The WBC says some very vile things, and anyone with common sense would want to ban them from doing what they do.

The issue in doing so is that you're placing limits on free speech. You're saying that it's okay to remove someone's rights as long as you have a good reason for it.

And while this is reasonable now, who's to say that unreasonable restrictions won't be justified in the future? Freedom means we must let others say and do things we do not like.
#335 to #326 - eddymolly
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Thats not what freedom of speech is. Freedom of speech allows you to say what you like provided its not " libel, slander, obscenity, sedition (including, for example inciting ethnic hatred), copyright violation, revelation of information that is classified or otherwise"

Westbro breaks this, so they can be punished for it. Simple
#341 to #335 - durkadurka ONLINE
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The problem is that Westboro doesn't exactly break this. Their speech, as hateful and crude as it is, constitutes a form of religious/political speech an is considered protected (at least here in the states).

We must be hesitant to ban any speech. There is little to gain from such action, but much to lose.
#379 to #341 - trevcars
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(03/26/2013) [-]
i see what you're saying, and If they wanna spread their **** in the states go ahead, but they have no reason to be coming over the border. Just like If you were next door to me you can say all the hate you want, but step on my property and start saying it and then we have a problem.
#392 to #341 - eddymolly
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Still seems a bit stupid to me. If I were to start a religion based on revealing American Military secrets, i'd be instantly arrested, yet you can have a religion based on bashing other people and thats allowed.

Just seems a bit double standard really.
#314 - secretdestroyers
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(03/26/2013) [-]
So sorry, WBC, but we can't have you guys spreading the hate around our country, eh?

Sorry.
#296 - JuliusC
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(03/26/2013) [-]
While i hate the westoboro baptist church just as much as anyone else, i don't think this is a good thing. Hateful or not, free speech is free speech, and when we start saying what speech is allowed and what is not, then its not really free speech anymore now is it? Its this kind of thinking combined with the slippery slope that creates a police state that controls its people instead of vice-versa. And i know people hate it when anyone ever compares anything to Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, but this is EXACTLY the type of thing that went on in the teens-twenties of Russia and twenties-thirties in Germany until they became police states. I know the same probably wont happen with Canada and Europe, but limitation of freedom leads to loss of freedom.
I know ill get thumbed down for this because funnyjunk as a whole never seems to like to put much though in anything thats why content like "hurr durr justin beiber sucks, there's no good music anymore, hurr durr" gets frontpage all the time.
TL;DR this is not necessarily a good thing
#322 to #296 - anon
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(03/26/2013) [-]
oh get the **** out.
#276 - anon
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Can somebody please explain this "Canadians are really polite / say sorry about everything" thingy?
#279 to #276 - thatguyyoumightno
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(03/26/2013) [-]
I'm sorry you don't get our stereotypes...
#288 to #276 - taintedangel
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Because a country that is generally well mannered and polite is a foreign concept for you Americans.   
   
And I am sorry for the above comment.
Because a country that is generally well mannered and polite is a foreign concept for you Americans.

And I am sorry for the above comment.
#293 to #288 - Anonomousthirteen
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I beg to differ, my good friend! Contrary to popular belief, there are a multitude of extraordinarily polite Americans. The reasons you unfortunate Canadians and Europeans don't get the chance to see them number three: 1. Many of the polite Americans have fewer resources than most travelers, which means they do not travel very often. 2. Most of the polite Americans dwell in rural areas, which means they do not often have the time to travel. 3. A good number of the mentioned party are, in fact, southerners, which has a good number of implications: A) many are undereducated, which contributes to point 1 above. B) due to their accent, you are more likely (in response to cultural expectations) to perceive them as racist, although this is (at least in my experience,) typically untrue. C) I actually ran out of points by now, I just felt that this required a C).
So please, my friend, do not assume that we are all incredibly rude people. I for one take pride in exercising civility to all around me.
#401 to #293 - taintedangel
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Well then, you are an anomaly that must be studied.  For science!
Well then, you are an anomaly that must be studied. For science!
#300 to #288 - anon
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Americans are well known around the world for being polite and respectable. Most people (who don't hold a biased opinion on people because of where they are from) will say that Americans are actually very courteous people.

Though Canadians who visit the States are generally considered very rude, ill mannered and quite the opposite of what the stereotype is. Americans visiting Canada are often mistreated as well up there. As I see it, this is a stereotype Canadians have given themselves mostly. Because nobody really even thought that until Canadians started shoving it in people's faces.

And trust, many Canadians who aren't overly nationalistic will agree with this
#402 to #300 - taintedangel
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#386 to #300 - trevcars
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I'm gonna tell you a something that happened one time when I went to Spain for World Youth Day in 2011...We would stay in the homes of the people of Madrid and the owners could speak some english. They were telling us about how much they love Canada and all that good stuff but then they said something I thought was very interesting...they said that a lot of American tourists would wear Canadian flags on their backpacks because they would get treated better. I'm not saying Americans suck, honestly I really like America, but Canada is known to be a happy and friendly country for the most part, and I think that proves it.
#240 - someoneforamoment
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'ANADA
#250 to #240 - Crusader
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We prefer
Kernerda'
#145 - notthistime
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#169 to #145 - anon
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My only question is, is there even then a limit as to what you can say with no punishment?

Legaly insult people left and right randomly on the street, my right to do so, my right to call black people ******* and yell it as loud as possible where ever I go and make fun of em too?
#246 to #169 - themurp
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Not legal, incites violence. Westboro doesn't technically incite violence, they aren't smart enough to incite anything besides butthurt.
#173 to #169 - notthistime
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im not entirely sure how far that goes, but the way they are protesting is legal.
#187 to #145 - urbemarmis
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you sir are right, but it doesnt mean that i have to like it.
you sir are right, but it doesnt mean that i have to like it.
#281 to #145 - Kellanved
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(03/26/2013) [-]
You're telling me you can't tell the difference between people in a movement for equal rights and people preaching hate and violence?
#162 to #145 - moc
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we wouldn't mind so much if all they did was just posting signs up saying "god hates fags" and such, but (personally) once they start desecrating funerals then they've gone too far,
#171 to #162 - notthistime
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maybe they could get them on some sort of harassment charge. maybe . but since all they were doing is picketing the funerals, i think it would be hard to charge them.
#179 to #171 - moc
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yeah, but the fact that its a persons funeral, i mean the guy is dead already, at least show some respect and let him/her rest in peace
#209 to #179 - notthistime
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agreed, but it is not illegal. thats the thing.
#199 to #145 - garymuthafuknoak
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its basically a hate crime. its why you cant dress up as a nazi because it offends people. just like how WBC offends people.
#214 to #199 - notthistime
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you can. nazi memorabilia is legal in the states. the supreme court even ruled the neo nazi marches legal because it was their right to do so.
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#141 to #136 - astraea
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Its not a belief.
Its hate.
They are basicly the same as the KKK.
#175 to #141 - snowshark
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Actually... even the KKK have spoken out in detest at the WBC. They're the hate group that other hate groups don't want to be associated with.

KKK: "God no! We don't agree with the WBC! It would be bad for our public image..."
#144 to #141 - garymuthafuknoak
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I guess it would make sense, but I've never heard about it. It would be nice if op included a source.
#149 to #144 - astraea
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The only thing they do is hate on gay people.
They train up small children to hate everyone other than their little cult.
their website is literally "God hates fags dot com"
Enlarge image.
#178 to #149 - the one and only
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I've read somewhere that there are over 100 animals that can be homosexual and that there's only 1 species that hate homos, don't know why I'm telling you this, was the first thing that popped on my mind when you told me there webpage
#189 to #178 - astraea
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Yeah i heard that too.
and you know the girl in your profile picture gif is only 14? Its pretty net.
#190 to #189 - astraea
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neat*
#195 to #189 - the one and only
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yeah but... that was like 5 years ago, she is like 19 now (I keep telling my self) so... it seems okay to have it on lol
#155 to #149 - garymuthafuknoak
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aye, I have heard of them. But I wish op had a source on how Canada banned them. How would they show they are apart of WBC and not be allowed into Canada? Would the border patrol ask if they could see if they had a hate sign? lol
#157 to #155 - astraea
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2008/08/08/westboro-protest.html?re %20f=rs
#163 to #157 - garymuthafuknoak
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thank you. that bus accident actually happened in my own province. but thank you for the source.
#373 to #144 - werrew [OP]
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#142 to #136 - rbpwn
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Ontarifag here

It's not

They've been recognized as a hate group by MANY , MANY people and don't legally count as a church of a recognized religion anymore
#33 - blazingpelt
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The UK did as well.
#12 - AliCattLovee
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#330 - upunkpunk
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I can't be the only American here finding it disturbing that a government can ban you for saying things the public or it don't agree with.
#378 to #330 - trevcars
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There's freedom of speech, then there's just outright verbal abuse. Canada, and the UK as well, since they also banned them, are not interested in having some brainwashed idiots picketing against their dead and grieving citizens. And You find it disturbing that we don't? come on, man!
#336 to #330 - icefried
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#331 to #330 - anon
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Not only are you the only American, also the only person...


#349 to #330 - Loppytaffy
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As a homosexual, I get a lot of stick, but I can understand and respect when people put forth a well constructed anti-gay argument.

HOWEVER Westboro have nothing; they're just saying "God hates America" and "God hates fags" and god hates this, that, and the other.
Which completely contradicts their bibles when says God loves all, and is forgiving. They're using their religion as a weapon, and a shield to hide behind.

Leviticus is like playing Christanity on hard mode, and not even that says anything about God hating anyone of any race, sex, sexuality, nationality or ability.
#359 to #330 - nephrithotroll
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Welcome to the illusion of freedom and rights.   
you have the right and freedom to say what you want.   
But the government have the right to take away your rights if it suits them.   
and rights are not rights is they can be taken away.
Welcome to the illusion of freedom and rights.
you have the right and freedom to say what you want.
But the government have the right to take away your rights if it suits them.
and rights are not rights is they can be taken away.
#338 to #330 - eddymolly
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Yes. When those things are hate, why are they allowed.

If you went around shouting ****** at all black people you see, then get them arrested when they hit you and say "i'm allowed to say what I like under free speech", I recon you'd be ****** then, why not in this case?
#345 to #330 - angelusprimus
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But this is how the freedom works.
You have right to say whatever you want.
BUT
I don't have to agree or support you in any way. I have a RIGHT to think you are an idiot and make you stay off my property.
Lets put it this way. I'm not going to go to guy next door's yard and shut him up when he is saying horrible things to people. but I sure as hell won't let him come in MY house and say that to MY family.
#342 to #330 - TCRCPRODUCTIONS
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I'm American and despite the fact that westboro is just a bunch of brainwashed ****** faggots, i don't think that should make it so there freedoms are taken away. They have a freedom of express and even though none of us like it including myself it's still there right. If you take their freedoms away, you set a precedent for anyone to have there freedoms taken away.

TL;DR If you take away someone's rights just because you don't like it, then anyone's rights can be taken away because you don't like them. Inb4 red thumbs
#347 to #342 - angelusprimus
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Freedom carries responcibliy.
You have right to say what you want, but you also have to accept that there are consequences of your actions.
If neighbor's kid is horribly foulmouthed bully, I'm not going to slap him around and tell him to shut up. I'm not even going to go to his parents and demand they shut him up and keep him under control. I am, on the other hand, say that he can't come into my house and play with my kids.
That is MY right.
#324 - kaboomz
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This image has expired
> One more reason why I love this country


Justin Bieber is canadian
#332 to #324 - anon
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got famous in America.
#380 to #324 - trevcars
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Only hated cuz he went to America though haha
#325 to #324 - therealjc
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Lives in America.
#384 to #325 - anon
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that doesnt change the fact that hes a canadian faggot
#385 to #384 - therealjc
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You shut your mouth you filthy slut.
#118 - biblioklept
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Isn't that illegal?
Isn't that illegal?
#120 to #118 - anon
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Nope. Texas does it all the time with Mexicans.
#129 to #120 - biblioklept
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Seems like restricting people because of their religious beliefs is illegal
Seems like restricting people because of their religious beliefs is illegal
#150 to #129 - timmywankenobi ONLINE
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since when is hate a religion ?
#153 to #150 - biblioklept
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I assume that the people of Westboro Baptist Church go to a church, making it religious
#156 to #153 - timmywankenobi ONLINE
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(03/26/2013) [-]
nope they have no affilations to any religion. they are just angry hateful people that bought a church building.
#161 to #156 - biblioklept
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Well I guess I know nothing about anything
Well I guess I know nothing about anything
#184 to #161 - snowshark
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(03/26/2013) [-]
They were at one point officially a religious group but after they pretty much egged on Anonymous (Y'know... the group that is infamous for violently opposing oppression and dictatorships to the point of cyber warfare) they started a petition to get them classified as a hate group and to strip them of the tax-exemption.

Naturally, they won. Don't **** with Anonymous.
#165 to #161 - timmywankenobi ONLINE
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(03/26/2013) [-]
well then you do know something don't you.
#131 to #118 - snowshark
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(03/26/2013) [-]
As a nation you are entitled to ban anyone you dislike from entering your country. People may get pissy with you if you do it but it is the same principle as not letting convicted criminals/terrorists or sex-offenders to cross your borders.

The only real difference is that the above three instances are convicted criminals with the chance for reformation whereas the members of the WBC are not only still active but the things they say are arguably liable to get them sued for harassment.

The UK has already banned them (since August 2009) and a number of religious organisations from within the UK have supported the decision.
#134 to #131 - biblioklept
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Interdasting.
#11 - bdawg ONLINE
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(03/25/2013) [-]
I'm easily on the fence about this. On one side the westboro church is a cruel and disgusting church which I feel strongly against like most people. On the other hand they have mostly followed the law. They do not initiate any violence with the other parties, they do not pass the barrier when it comes to funerals, etc. Now if you ever have read " if you give a mouse a cookie" you will see the mouse will gradually demand more things. You can easily associate this with Canada and how they are starting to ban citizens who have not in any way disturbed the peace and might eventually start to ban other people from entering based on certain things. I'm not saying I support them, I am just stating that that banning them JUST because they are massive ******* douche bags does not give the Canadian government a valid reason considering how they are a leading country in freedom.  I just feel as if Canada is putting its emotional feelings into freedom of speech which I do not approve of. Sorry if this offended anyone.
I'm easily on the fence about this. On one side the westboro church is a cruel and disgusting church which I feel strongly against like most people. On the other hand they have mostly followed the law. They do not initiate any violence with the other parties, they do not pass the barrier when it comes to funerals, etc. Now if you ever have read " if you give a mouse a cookie" you will see the mouse will gradually demand more things. You can easily associate this with Canada and how they are starting to ban citizens who have not in any way disturbed the peace and might eventually start to ban other people from entering based on certain things. I'm not saying I support them, I am just stating that that banning them JUST because they are massive ******* douche bags does not give the Canadian government a valid reason considering how they are a leading country in freedom. I just feel as if Canada is putting its emotional feelings into freedom of speech which I do not approve of. Sorry if this offended anyone.
#14 to #11 - gastaftor
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Canada has laws against hate speech. Real laws unlike america. A lot of things they have said and done would get them put away for a long time in Canada. So it's probably best they don't come here.
#19 to #11 - anon
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(03/26/2013) [-]
I think telling a mother that just lost her son fighting for your country "thank god for dead soldiers" and that the army is a group of "baby killing scum" could count as disturbing the peace, or it should do.
#18 to #11 - godtherapist
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Canada doesn't have free speech.
#50 to #11 - thisotherdude
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Section 1 of the Canadian Charter allows the government to limit an individuals charter rights, aka, if the government doesn't like what you're doing they can tell you to **** off despite the charter. The Westbro takes it way too far and thus not only is this justifiable but if anything it's probably gonna stop them from being beaten to death by angry Canadians, and also they're not even Canadian citizens and thus they don't even have the protection of the charter in the first place.
#54 to #50 - bdawg ONLINE
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Hmmmmm you are the only one that has logic in your words. I am such a fool... Thank you for teaching me good man.
Hmmmmm you are the only one that has logic in your words. I am such a fool... Thank you for teaching me good man.
#78 to #54 - werrew [OP]
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Well as long as you learn, that's all that matters.
#13 to #11 - gammagammalover
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(03/26/2013) [-]
maybe they haven't broken american laws, but other countries have the balls to say they dont want those disgusting excuses for human beings in their homeland
#24 to #13 - douthit
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(03/26/2013) [-]
Do you claim to be for free speech? I guess not.
#8 - sonofminos
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(03/25/2013) [-]
Didn't know they were trying to get into Canada in the first place.