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#349 - hokon
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(03/04/2013) [-]
>go go the cinema
#360 to #349 - reican
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go go gadget cinema
#331 - welcometoatl
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I'am American and I find it funny how the foreigners understand how easy it is to fix all these gun problems. But I guess it won't ever happen. Too many faggots that play Call of Duty and can't tell the difference between a game and real life. It's funny how nobody ever really gave a **** about semi-auto rifles until these mass shootings, but now some Americans will bitch and moan and whine if you ever try and pry that unnecessarily owned weapon from their pudgy little fingers.
#361 to #331 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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So are you saying that handguns and other sidearms are bad too?
#410 to #331 - nuclearapparition
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Guns don't kill people, people kill people. A firearm of anykind is a tool, nothing more, nothing less.
#335 to #331 - yusay
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You say this like people were fine with having their guns taken away from the start and only now they're complaining.
#339 to #335 - welcometoatl
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No, I'm not saying to ban the possession of firearms, for that's a liberty vested to the people by the 2nd Amendment. I'm saying that there is no use whatsoever for a socially relevant American to own a semi-auto weapon. I find it extremely pretentious of some losers when they walk around thinking they're the **** because they can differentiate between an M14 and an M16... whatever the **** those are. Nobody gives a **** if you know about weapons or not if you're just going to sit at home. What do average Americans need a semi-auto rifle for, in case the British invade? Granted, if you're in law enforcement or in the military then yeah, those types of guns may come across your path more than once so you may need to know how to use them.
#342 to #339 - yusay
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You're just assuming that all people who own a weapon never use it.

Where I live, many people own guns and guess what, they hunt with them.
#368 to #342 - mantou
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no he is assuming auto weapons for civilians are obsolete
#370 to #368 - yusay
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What? He only mentions semi auto. "What do average Americans need a semi-auto rifle for, in case the British invade?"
#397 to #370 - mantou
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ok. but what is your point?
#399 to #397 - yusay
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That people do have uses for their weapons.
#405 to #399 - mantou
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but why would you need an automatic or a semi-automatic weapon for? isn't that literally 'overkill'?
#414 to #405 - nuclearapparition
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Civilians in America cannot legally own fully automatic firearms. You need a Class 3(A?) License to legally purchase automatic firearms. Even if you got one, you'd pay a **** ton more in taxes, and automatic firearms are extremely expensive. For example, a stock M16A2, A3, or A4 will run you anywhere from $10,000-$20,000.
#423 to #414 - mantou
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pumping a deer to shreds wouldn't have made sense to me. so the world is actually a little bit less ****** up, than I thought
good information there
#518 to #423 - nuclearapparition
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No problem.
#348 to #342 - welcometoatl
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They hunt with Semi-auto weapons? Wow, that's called being a pretty ****** hunter if you need 20+ rounds to kill an animal
#403 to #348 - nuclearapparition
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I hunt with an AR10 and an AR15. AR10s stock magazine has a 5 round capacity, while the AR15s is a 10 round capacity. Most bolt action rifles have an internal magazine of anywhere between 5-10 rounds as well. Your argument is invalid.
#355 to #348 - theanarchyking
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I don't think yusay said they hunt with semi-auto, just said weapons.
#367 to #355 - welcometoatl
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My rant here is about semi-auto guns, not all guns in general. I own a handgun which I have a permit for since I get home late for work and I live in a ****** neighborhood.
#371 to #367 - theanarchyking
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Some people live in the worst of the worst and have to have a semi-automatic rifle to stay and feel safe, besides techinally all handguns are semi-auto, unless they have some sort of automatic firing system.
#363 to #355 - yusay
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A large portion own shotguns, actually.
#369 to #363 - theanarchyking
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Well, if the hunt with a semi-auto shotgun, I could see where it could be excessive cause some of those are ment to shoot through things and then some.
#353 to #348 - yusay
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...What?

You can carry as much ammo as you want. That's common sense. Magazine size is your choice as well, unless that's the only size you could find/afford.

If you find two deer in the marsh, who in their right mind would honestly prefer to have a rifle that won't get two bullets out quickly before the other deer runs away?
#424 to #353 - mantou
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try to kill a deer with a minigun and find something edible after that
#428 to #424 - yusay
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Who owns a minigun for hunting? You're blowing things out of proportion and it's just a sign of you not even having an argument.
#437 to #428 - mantou
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNoYujxeRo
why out of proportion?
#439 to #437 - yusay
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And? Look at the comments. Hunter's disagree with it and very, very few hunters actually own a minigun.
#443 to #439 - mantou
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I like how 1/3 thumbs it up

and how it is actually possible to do that ****
I'm no veggie, vegan or PETA fag, but even a boar shouldn't die like this
the more ammo you can stock up , the less precision you need, not that I accuse you to be spamming a whole magazines into wildlife, but I think there is a percentage that gets their kicks from actually overkilling things.
#450 to #443 - yusay
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There are people like that out there, but people who actually want to hunt don't pump as many ******* bullets as they can into an animal and absolutely ruin it for mounting, skinning, eating, etc.
#469 to #450 - mantou
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Yea this is perfectly right, I enjoy accompanying my Uncle on hunts for my part.

All I want to say is that the intersection of the "portion of hunters that hunt conscientious"
and the "portion of hunters that hunt with semi-automatic to automatic weapons" is scarce.
One of my Uncle's friends is a hunter and owns a magnum, now guess what? He ******* went for rabbit hunt with it. All of what was left of that thing was a furry rag. and I'm not even living in the U.S.
#364 to #331 - TheMacDaddy
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Just saying, over half of what Americans own is unnecessary. As a matter of fact I bet you have no real world use of the computer you are on right now.
#409 to #364 - welcometoatl
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(03/04/2013) [-]
school and modern communication. Emails and all that nonsense
#234 - acvirtutis
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(03/04/2013) [-]
>Be a commentor of FJ
>Get sh-
#176 - Cleavland Steamer
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#216 to #176 - caplocker
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You've mistaken being a cunt and being funny. they're not the same thing, you're not being funny you're being a cunt.
#224 to #216 - anon
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I thought it was funny.
#492 to #224 - caplocker
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that's because you're a cunt.
#294 to #176 - desacabose
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#151 - bummerdrummer
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funny, except americans "go to the movies"
#153 to #151 - xenoquack
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Still get shot though.
#218 to #153 - caplocker
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I went to the movies twice last week. I died twice. your media is right, the theater isn't safe.
#215 to #153 - bummerdrummer
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"bust a cap in our ass"
#442 - rieskimo
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Dear ******* Hell when will people just shut the **** up about this?!

Here's the rundown, it's great that GB can illegalize and pretty much fully control all of thier guns but that isn't really a possibility in the US. GB is part of an island, a geographical advantage the US doesn't have. GB doesn't rely on gun production as a means of income. The US is #1 in ownership and production of firearms in the WORLD, that's not going to stop anytime soon. The banning of guns would do a few things, but eradicate gun crime it will definitely not.

"But if you take away the guns you take away the crime, right?"
No, in fact you do NOT. You will curb gun violence and minimize it yes, but you're not taking into account that instead of people buying guns legally they'll just import them from Mexico, Canada, or China. If you stop gun sales to civilians that essentially hands over a billion dollar industry to very dangerous and very entrepreneurial cartels and gangs(they're already thriving off of marijuana which is already ridiculous). Americans are a crazy mix of everything, the operative word there is CRAZY and we are. Americans, believe it or not, are extremely creative and find ways to circumvent the law in as many ways as they change the law. In the climate America is in now it is not possible nor is it practical to illegalize guns totally. Get off your high horse world, we all have problems. The thing is, gun control isn't even all that terrible of an issue in America. We have so many other looming problems, most gun casualties are due to misuse of the tool(i.e. people shooting friends/family accidentally or shooting themselves). If there's anything that will make the US safer it will be the proper training of usage of guns. Say what you want but that is our reality.

tl;dr 'Murica loves our guns needs our guns to not starve
#447 to #442 - xkqueen
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#467 to #447 - rieskimo
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I am King Textwall
#456 to #442 - lordsugardaddy
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It's funny because American's constantly judge the middle east for problems they can't control and always act like they're better than other countries/places, yet when the tables are turned they all seem to turn into keyboard warriors and have bitch fits.
#465 to #456 - rieskimo
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It's nice to put everyone under a single blanket right? I understand what you're saying and it's unfortunate that a LARGE percentage of my fellow Americans like to point a judgemental finger but myself and almost all of my peers don't share that quality. Many of us Americans are opening our eyes to the ******** our country is pulling.

My foreign policy? **** the foreign(kidding) I just want the US to focus internally before we invest our money and efforts into other places. I understand that foreign lands have different cultures and different understandings. I don't agree with some of the things that happen in other borders, but that isn't my mess to clean up. If they see fit to do something our country doesn't agree with I think it is our responsibility to let that be known and not deal with that country as much as possible but that should be the most we do. I don't think it is our job to evangelize democracy or our way of governance because our very own citizens aren't happy with the way our country is run.

What I'm saying here is that we are an imperfect country and until we reach that perfection we have no place in sticking our fingers into other people's pie. We should improve within our own country(a wealthy country that has sick, poor, and starving people is beyond shameful) before we start improving others.

I think my country got a big head after we made out so well in WWII, we streamlined production and gained a lot of wealth in a relatively short period of time. So now we think we know what's right for everyone. I'm not saying it's right, I'm sayin that's why a faction of us believe with such furvor that we are the pinnacle. That is not all of us though and you'd be very careful to heed that.
#526 to #442 - toastandbananas
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FINALLY! SOMEONE WITH THEIR HEAD NOT STUCK INSIDE THEIR ASS! OH MY GOD! THANK YOU!
#358 - anon
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It's our right to bear arms. You could kill a person with a knife just as easily.

You could kill a person with sex, too. And rope.

Shouldn't they be banned?

Thumb this down if you want, it isn't going to change the truth.
#374 to #358 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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Debatable on the knife one. It's a lot easier to kill someone with a well-placed bullet from far away than it is to get up close to a person who's scared for their life and stab them to death.
#413 to #374 - mattzoman
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Did you hear about the knifing in China where someone stabbed I believe it was about 30 people. It doesn't matter what weapon an individual has, they will still find ways to kill. People were using swords before firearms were invented, why didn't we ban those? People kill people, weapons are just utensils.
#441 to #413 - kerplunking
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And none of them died.

Compare to the Sandy Hook shooting on the same day, where 28 people died.
#419 to #413 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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But the fact that mass murders nowadays are almost all committed by guns would point to the contrary. For every mass stabbing, there's far more mass shootings. I take this to mean that guns have more lethality than knives.
#438 to #419 - mattzoman
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You know how to stop a bad guy with a gun? Bring a good guy with a gun. You can't expect a criminal to just stop what they are doing if they have a gun in a Gun-Free Zone. A sign is clearly going to save innocent lives. Besides, even if you do outlaw/ban or try to reduce guns, criminals are going to find ways to get them illegally. Banning Heroine, Cocaine, Marijuana, and Alcohol worked really well right? You don't see those anymore ever since they became illegal. Banning guns only hurts the law-abiding and even the economy. If I owned a business, I would have a Pro-Gun policy, meaning that people could be armed in my business. 10/10 times, if someone walks into my store to rob it/commit a crime, myself and law-abiding, confident customers would gladly come to our defense and deter all forms of aggression. Sorry if I sounded rude or anything, not trying to be butthurt. The public just doesn't understand.
#446 to #438 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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I never said to ban or even heavily regulate guns my good sir, I'm against such things. I'm just trying to make the point that guns have more lethality than knives. I also agree that a good bit of the public doesn't seem to understand what happens when guns are regulated in America.
#451 to #446 - mattzoman
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My apologies then, kind sir. Many people are just completely oblivious and they hop on the bandwagon without looking at any facts.
#436 to #358 - goddammittyrone
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Yes, but all of those are used for other things than just shooting live creature or range practice.
#402 to #358 - thatguyblaze
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I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands.
#408 to #402 - thatguyblaze
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Should my hands be banned?
#341 - riminato
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******* americans and their ******* america
******* americans and their ******* america
#401 to #341 - giygasman
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#378 to #341 - RAPxMASTER
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#329 - hadtomakeanewname
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>Have diabeetus
>get shot
#384 to #329 - deraggo
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Oh god where are your thumbs?
#297 - fuckyouto ONLINE
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Maybe think about improving the living standards and people would not need to go around shooting?...
Maybe think about improving the living standards and people would not need to go around shooting?...
#310 to #297 - laughingcarrot
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Easier said than done. Every cent in America belongs to a different country.
#318 to #297 - comanderspy
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thing is that, its not pissed off people that go arround shotting other people. it is crazy ************* that have no medication or care other than their moms. look at newtown; crazy ************. columbine; crazy ************* who were social rejects and whose mom didnt give a **** about (would you let your kid read mein kampf for entertainment purposes?)
#322 to #318 - fuckyouto ONLINE
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Well even if you believe that these people are crazy, you should really look up living standards because I am sure it covers the topic of health care somewere in there. Dont have the time to explain it to you right now...

And in all honesty if I believed my kid could handle a book like that, who am I to stop them? But I would not develop a child that would not be able to handle such a book.
#325 to #322 - comanderspy
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well, i suppose that healthcare does come into living standards and cost of living.
well, i suppose that healthcare does come into living standards and cost of living.
#334 to #325 - fuckyouto ONLINE
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I think it comes down to a deeper issue then just saying if the guys crazy or not. Because crazy people are crazy they dont really need to go around killing.
These people that go on rampages are angry and mad, They think they are entitled
to take someones life, This shows no respect or even simple morality thoughts. Alot of people say that serial killers are intelligent. I think its the opposite, they have no idea how to function in a evolved world such as this were we have free trade and a socitiy so they have to resort to getting angry at it.

Americans are not intellegent there school system is a joke and people from what I have seen do little outside research.
#340 to #334 - comanderspy
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i agreed in everything you said up until the last sentence. yes, the U.S. educational system is pure ****, for **** sakes, my educational system from a 3rd world country is better than this one. money goes everywhere except where it is needed and discipline is thrown down the drain.

but there are some inteligent americans, do not let the huge stinking pile of **** that is the masses fog your views. the country just needs to get its **** together in the means of politics, then work their way down to the people, because right now the country is divided between dumb ***** that pray their problems away instead of solving them and the other side that at least tries to look like they care. i mean look at this ****, secuestra or whatever, it is literally the country committing suicide because we cannot come to an agreement. it is ridiculous.
#343 to #340 - fuckyouto ONLINE
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Yes I agree 100|% that there is very intelligent Americans I wont disagree that.
But you also have to remember that the masses control the system. And it is safe to say that there is more un intelligent then intelligent.
#352 to #343 - comanderspy
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sad, but true. i mean just look at the main headlines in the news (one direction kicked in the balls) what the **** can you gain from that, i mean ha ha some one got hit in the balls but it doesn't need to be a world wide news article. you know those weekly posts of science we have here, there should be one of those in every news network, even if its creepy or anything, just have the reporters have a discussion about it, bring some scientist or anyone to have a talk about stuff, we hear too much about ****** killing people, or car accidents.
sad, but true. i mean just look at the main headlines in the news (one direction kicked in the balls) what the **** can you gain from that, i mean ha ha some one got hit in the balls but it doesn't need to be a world wide news article. you know those weekly posts of science we have here, there should be one of those in every news network, even if its creepy or anything, just have the reporters have a discussion about it, bring some scientist or anyone to have a talk about stuff, we hear too much about ****** killing people, or car accidents.
#336 to #318 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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I'd argue that mass shootings are an entirely different issue. The gun crime rates are the issue here and result in a lot more deaths than those awful mass shootings.

I'd agree with you on what you're saying though, the reason that crazy people stay crazy is cause they aren't given help if they don't seek it unfortunately.
#246 - occamsrazor
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Then staunchly oppose gun control because you have the freedom to be shot in school, in a movie theater, or as a firefighter.
#281 to #246 - Sockopolis
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Damn right we do.
And we will complain about the bad gun laws when we do get shot.
#217 - mkchillin ONLINE
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Maybe if this generation of Americans weren't led to denounce Christianity, were raised right, had good morals and values instilled in them, had good parents/role models, and/or had proper gun training and education, maybe then they wouldn't have such disregard for human life perhaps?????

tl;dr were desensitized to violence and prone to immorality these days
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#304 to #241 - sketchE
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doctors who perform abortions are killed by pro lifers. usually christians
#504 to #304 - IceViper
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it doesnt happen on a wide enough scale to really be valid. Not that many abortion clinics are blown up in the united states.
#284 to #241 - konradkurze
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there are some god freaks that see a need to kill sinners
#505 to #284 - IceViper
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but do the few extremists that do this really turn America upside down like he says it does? Not at all. Barely ever, do i hear of these things happening.
#253 to #241 - shadeyyy
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Before you open your mouth try not to look ******* stupid yourself, the statement you made made no sense whatsoever. God I hate morons.
#503 to #253 - IceViper
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then you are ******* retarded. its pretty simple what i said. but let me interpret this so a 4 year old can interpret it. "how would denouncing christianity lead to death?"
#512 to #503 - shadeyyy
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That's not what you said you illiterate ****.
#514 to #512 - IceViper
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you are the illiterate **** who cant understand a simple sentence in english
#517 to #514 - shadeyyy
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Nice grammar idiot, delete your comment some more.
#222 to #217 - anon
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Or, we're much more morally advanced and sensitive to violence than any previous generation and have less violent crime per person.
#225 to #217 - pulluspardus
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not to sound like an american hater, but when did America ever had a peace loving generation? , I think nowadays at least lots of americans are waking up to see that they're repeating the same wrongs their ancestors did.
#287 to #225 - konradkurze
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ameria almost had a peaceloving generation...it was called the 60's - 70's when most young people were baked on weed and loving each other
#226 to #225 - mkchillin ONLINE
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What same wrongs? And what do you mean peace-loving? We're not talking about war.
#293 to #217 - anon
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he's sorta right you know
#328 to #217 - benjaminbutton ONLINE
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If you need religion to obtain your morals, wouldn't that make being Christians the ones with the fault. I'm not religious, and wasn't brought up by christianity that much either. I got my morals from parents who just new was right. That being said, you are completely ruling out psychopaths, who lack certain brain developments....
#330 to #217 - certifiedidiot
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You need no god to have morality.   
   
And basicly right now you're placing all blame on our parents, stand up to your own damn mess, the us have a ****** up system at the moment where you have the right to hate but not to love, where prisoners are taken better care of than innocent citizens.   
   
The banks that is to be the private sector who can be allowed to gamble and take all the benefits and risks but when they lose everything they go for goverment handouts that the people pay for.   
   
Also, land of the free my acking ass, most people put in prison per capita, more defense spending than anyone else in the world and the runner ups are your own damn allies, yet they still **** up royaly and imprison those who seek to uncover the armys wrong doings and show it to their own people back home.   
   
I'm sorry, but you have a bit of a ****** up country and shifting all the blame on your parents and declaring christianity the moral code to prevent homicides is just ********.
You need no god to have morality.

And basicly right now you're placing all blame on our parents, stand up to your own damn mess, the us have a ****** up system at the moment where you have the right to hate but not to love, where prisoners are taken better care of than innocent citizens.

The banks that is to be the private sector who can be allowed to gamble and take all the benefits and risks but when they lose everything they go for goverment handouts that the people pay for.

Also, land of the free my acking ass, most people put in prison per capita, more defense spending than anyone else in the world and the runner ups are your own damn allies, yet they still **** up royaly and imprison those who seek to uncover the armys wrong doings and show it to their own people back home.

I'm sorry, but you have a bit of a ****** up country and shifting all the blame on your parents and declaring christianity the moral code to prevent homicides is just ********.
#228 to #217 - theshadowed
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Right, because modern day America is SO uncivilised compared to something like Medieval Europe
#202 - imnotkickthecat
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There are to many angry anti-american people in the comment.

Go home and be a family man.
#280 to #202 - anon
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*too
#187 - timmywankenobi
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wow I am so done with gun debate on this site, it like talking to a 5 year old with downs syndrome . Regulations on guns doesn't mean taking away guns you have already or making sure you can't have more it is about making sure that only people who are of sound mind and trained with no serious criminal records or mental problems get guns. Because (and I'm sure everyone know someone) some people really shouldn't be allowed to even hold fire arms for the good of everyone and or themselves.
#307 to #187 - thenameschuck
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Someone rolled in from tumblr
#195 to #187 - anon
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Those are the only people who can get guns (legally) as it is. Where is this mystical free-for-all gun store that just hands out assault rifles like candy? Because I wish to be the proud owner of a rocket launcher.
#200 to #195 - timmywankenobi
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Any us citizen in most states need only prove they are an american citizen to purchase a fire arm .
#210 to #200 - anon
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An american citizen with a license to own and operate a firearm. you can't just walk in, say " 'murrica" and leave with an arsenal.
#211 to #210 - timmywankenobi
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that depends on the state . additionally some weapons have waiting periods etc.
#214 to #187 - anon
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Man, I wish it were about disarming people who shouldn't own a firearm, but our government doesn't want us to own anything that threatens their rule. Obama was saying "I have no problem with hunters" cool story, I've never went hunting and own 4 rifles. He'd ban every type of firearm if he could do it without the government being overthrown. If it were to just disarm criminals and mentally ill people, I'd be all for it. But we have laws on the books already to address this and they won't. They just want to disarm Americans.

From this side, it also feels like I'm debating with 5 year olds. Because we do not agree on the topic, doesn't mean one of us is more educated. In my home, i'm 100% right. In your home, you're 100% right.

Anon because of libfags outnumbering everyone on this site.
#219 to #214 - timmywankenobi
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yes there were laws on the books but the nra lobbyist made it impossible to Enforce them and slashed the budget for atf so they can do **** !
#221 to #219 - timmywankenobi
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cannot
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#238 to #187 - thelastamerican
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Yep. I know several individuals who really don't need to be anywhere near a gun. I actually bought one from just such a person to keep the world a little safer. Sure, I took a loss of about $150, but the guy I bought the gun from is a nutjob, and now it's safe behind 4 inches of steel/ceramic sandwich.
Pic related, this is kind of what the guy I'm talking about looks like.

Also, we already have a background check system. I'm not sure why people think having another background check system that's exactly like the one we currently have is going to change anything.
#242 to #238 - timmywankenobi
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many states and many shops don't do background checks they just want to sell merchandise .
#243 to #242 - thelastamerican
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That's against federal law you know...
#249 to #243 - timmywankenobi
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ya but the atf have almost no man power so they let the **** slide cause they don't have the resources thanks to the nra lobbyists . not to mention the nra put so many conditions for searching shops or seizing weapons or anything it is practically impossible for atf to do any thing at all.
#252 to #249 - thelastamerican
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Er... Have you ever bought a gun from any store that sells guns? I mean, if you have and you didn't have to fill out any paper work you should probably not be talking about it on the internet, and get rid of the gun as quickly as you possibly can.
If this were to happen at a legitimate gun store there would be helicopters circling an hour after the incident. At the very least 4473 has to be filled out, part of witch activates a background check, if the check comes back with any red flags expect federal marshals at your front door.
#269 to #252 - timmywankenobi
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not every city and state have basic background checks some just do credit checks some do even less it varies from place to place.
#273 to #269 - thelastamerican
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It doesn't matter. This is a FEDERAL background check. You know, the FBI, and other alphabet soup agencies run your name through their nice big data banks. It doesn't matter what the local laws are. If you get a gun at a gun shop it's going to get your name in a computer.
#283 to #273 - timmywankenobi
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right but until very recently most places didn't do basic background checks and the federal background check only looks to see if you have committed any felonies which most folks have not .
#289 to #283 - thelastamerican
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That's not true. I'm not sure who told you that, but it's not at all true. Last time I bought a gun the background check showed a parking ticket I had received a couple weeks before. Federal back ground checks are just as intense as local background checks.
#296 to #289 - timmywankenobi
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then you must be in a state with more rigid regulations.
#314 to #296 - sketchE
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i live in alaska we have some of the loosest gun laws in the country. it took at least 30 minutes for them to process the background portion. and your clearly misinformed since you cant own a firearm if you have any domestic violence convictions, some of which arent felonies. you can get charged with misdemeanor domestic violence and never be allowed to own a gun
#320 to #314 - timmywankenobi
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hmm I was not informed that they didn't allow people with misdemeanors to buy weapons.
#323 to #320 - sketchE
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well yeah. you did something to someone else bad enough for the police to be called. you dont deserve to own a weapon. you now have a history of getting angry and attacking someone in your house who says next time you wont use a gun?
#298 to #296 - thelastamerican
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I don't think you're going to understand. Enjoy your life friend, I'm going to go to sleep.
#256 to #187 - shadeyyy
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It goes sooo much deeper than that, that's the part they want you to hear, read the bill.
#266 to #256 - timmywankenobi
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well okay I only took a rough glance at it I shall look at it in depth.
#315 to #187 - roliga
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Just look at history, registration almost always leads to confiscation.
#321 to #315 - timmywankenobi
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hmm that is true in many cases .
#169 - awesomechardey
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cinema
#197 to #169 - anon
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my thoughts exactly
#159 - iamtheblackgoat
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>Be Greek
>Can't even afford guns
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#2 - anon
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get rid of democrats...shoot back ...kill badguy
#3 to #2 - anon
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hurr durr im ******* retarded - anon
#5 to #3 - thepyras
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Ohoho! Is funny because you are anon as well!
#6 to #3 - anon
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Haha! I'm just kidding, thought I would make fun of myself for a second!
#255 - umaya
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Overdose on what you thought was cocaine
Johnny Travolta gets you adrenaline shot.
#189 - ungcc
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MFW chins....
MFW chins....
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#245 to #233 - darklit
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Yes
#470 to #189 - ungcc
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Who the hell doesn't like pugs?