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#259 - thecratcher
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(01/30/2013) [-]
But, but, intelligence isn't hereditary...
#260 to #259 - anon
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It isn't, but if you have stupid parents, 9 times out of 10, the child will be stupid as a result of the stupid parenting.
#261 to #259 - anon
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Meh. the stupidity of parents may rub off on the kids, making them not worry about education. Stupid parents help make their kids stupid.
#262 to #259 - collegedood
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watch the move "idiocracy". it explains everything
#217 - applelemon
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I just noticed this guy in the picture. He looks pretty sad.
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#182 to #174 - anon
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.... So you're just gonna pull stupid things out of your ass and sct like you know what you said, huh? The percentage isn't getting higher... The percentage stays the same, while the total population grows making the number of smart people higher.. But not the percentage.
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#112 - helenwheels
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"Everyone these days is stupid!..!!. except for me!!... and also, things have gotten worse.."    
If you spoke to any random individual from the 1700's do you really think they'd be smarter than any random individual today? This generation, where education is mote free and open to anyone than it has EVER been?   
   
People aren't as dumb as you think they are, you're just so self centered that you assume people are stupied when they annoy you talking to someone else, if you made friends you'd see that they really aren't as dumb as they sound.
"Everyone these days is stupid!..!!. except for me!!... and also, things have gotten worse.."
If you spoke to any random individual from the 1700's do you really think they'd be smarter than any random individual today? This generation, where education is mote free and open to anyone than it has EVER been?

People aren't as dumb as you think they are, you're just so self centered that you assume people are stupied when they annoy you talking to someone else, if you made friends you'd see that they really aren't as dumb as they sound.
#115 to #112 - MacheteJoe
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Its from a movie, relax
Its from a movie, relax
#287 to #115 - helenwheels
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Its a ******* retarded move then, isn't it?
#288 to #287 - MacheteJoe
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In a way...yes. You made a very valid point but there is a widening gap between the intelligent and the ignorant. I live in a rural area of north Georgia and it's happening similar to what op and the movie described. I think H.G. Wells had the right idea in "The Time Machine" with humans spliting into two different species. Just not as drastic as in the book.
In a way...yes. You made a very valid point but there is a widening gap between the intelligent and the ignorant. I live in a rural area of north Georgia and it's happening similar to what op and the movie described. I think H.G. Wells had the right idea in "The Time Machine" with humans spliting into two different species. Just not as drastic as in the book.
#164 to #112 - redeadhunter
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That's a pretty good point, actually. Yeah, if you look at history you'l hear about plenty of geniuses such as Galileo, Einstein and Tesla But let's look at how much support these men got and look at their time periods

Galileo, who lived in the 1600s brought some very enlightening knowledge as to the Nature of our Solar System. Sent to prison for heresy.

Tesla, from the 1800s gave us the light bulb. ****** over at the patent office by Thomas Edison and bitch-slapped into relative obscurity.

Einstein in the 1900s, with revolutionary ideas for Gravity, time and the speed of light. Contributor to the Manhatten Project. Won Nobel peace prize, International reverence and fame during and well after his lifetime.

In a relative sense, humanity is becoming more and more enlightened as time goes on.
#91 - stultum
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You know that they have to adjust the IQ scale every so many years because the average person is getting SMARTER with about one IQ point per decade, right?
You know that they have to adjust the IQ scale every so many years because the average person is getting SMARTER with about one IQ point per decade, right?
#93 to #91 - anotherone
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this ^
#122 to #91 - Scorch
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are you sure?, because I got freakin 130 on the dutch IQ from last year and I did halve of it on beer
The scale on that one was based on all the dutch people who took it (and actually submitted there score)

and I'm not saying this to point out my own intellegence because I sucked at it...
#149 to #122 - stultum
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'de nationale IQ-test' you mean? that one on tv? easy explanation: there is a time-limit, which normal IQ-tests don't have on most of the subjects. a lot of the things that are tested on a normal IQ-test are not tested in this tv-show. some of the things that are tested in the tv-show (like long-time memory) are tested in a completely different way. the tv-test is much shorter. I bet you aren't the only one who took it on beer. and last but not least, they want people to feel smart. keeps them watching.

an average IQ is 100. IQ of 130 is very, very good.
#236 to #149 - Scorch
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also that 130 wasn't a real good test in an actual test with guessingcorrection I'd have scored way lower
#233 to #149 - Scorch
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yea that one, seems like a logical explanation.
I see you've looked into these things alot and I was wondering what do you think of the IQ test as a whole? Because personally I don't believe it's a good representative for one's intellegence (then again that might be lack of knowledge about the tests)
for one all the tests I have seen consist of 20% language and grammar. In my opinion this shouldn't part of the test because one's ability to use proper grammer and spelling isn't an actual skill that's affacted by your brain's capacity to proces information. It is only affacted by the list of words and rules you have or haven't learned.
I know that's just one part of the test but I have some other arguments which I don't have the time for to formulate right now.

So what do you think about it?
#247 to #233 - stultum
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I am not an expert in these things. Far from it. (also, I live in the Netherlands, so I watched the show last year.) I just have some interest in the human mind- that's why I know some things about some common mental disorders, why I know what an IQ test is about. I also have some knowlege about how tv-shows work in general- and that means that while they like the word 'science', they simplify any and everything. de nationale IQ test is fun to do, but, as you said youself, it isn't to be taken seriously.

the importance of IQ tests is at least debatable. social intelligence seems to be more important to be succesfull in life. your determination to learn something is more important to become good at something.

if you are interested at this kind of thing, I can reccomend to read magazines like Quest (understandable science magazine) and look around the internet- but always be aware that the internet is an unreliable source

I am just a final-year VWO'er who has a memory for interesting facts.
#277 to #247 - Scorch
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You don't have to be an expert to give an opinion, it just helps to be at least a little bit informed. I figured since you knew at least a bit it would have been interesting to hear your opinion ^^

coïncidently I'm also just a just final exam student xd but someone I knew had her ProfielWerkstuk on IQ etc a few years ago it was pretty interesting, that's where I got most of my knowledge about it.

I suppose you could say that. And it's definetly a good mindset to learn as much as possible. I think there's just so many skills people can have that it would be kind of silly to prioritize them or reduce them to nothing but a sily mark, I think it's best to figure out for yourself with what kind of skills you have but more importantly like and develop thos as much as possible ^^

well thnks for the chat and good luck with your exams
#155 to #91 - bearpirate
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Really, a single point per ******* decade? Please tell me how significant that change is.
#162 to #155 - stultum
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that means that, if they don't adjust it, in fourhunderd years, a normal person would score 140, and thus, would be considered gifted

it also means that someone who scores 100 on a test now (average) would be considered retarded in threehunderd years time.

so yes, it is significant.
#169 to #162 - bearpirate
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If you get really ******* technical you can look up the Flynn effect and it'll state that the average intelligence quotient is actually rising by around 3 points per decade in almost all parts of the world.
#166 to #162 - bearpirate
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I know how to math thank you. IQ does not measure intelligence, it measures the ability to learn and retain information. You could have someone with a genius level IQ and not very much actual knowledge. Take a child for example.
#202 to #166 - stultum
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isn't that ability intelligence? I always assumed that knowledge and intelligence are two different things. someone can have had very little education, but still be verry intelligent. but please excuse me if I am wrong.

this probably is a language barrier, because english is my third language, and while some (like these) words are close to each other in meaning and sound in many language, the nuances are different. take all those flame wars over 'socialism' for example.
#170 to #91 - opsbeard
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I forget which episode this is... I know its season 2...
#86 - DrollHumor
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I like how it is explained in Idiocracy, stupid people have a lot of kids they can't care for, so they become stupid kids. These stupid kids go out and knock up their stupid high school lovers and quickly produce more stupid kids. Smart people have maybe one or two, who are well taught and well mannered and go on to have one or two themselves at a more appropriate age. Not only does this takes more time for the genes to be passed along, but it's to a generation no bigger than the one before it.

With a ratio like that, smart people are becoming extinct.
#36 - pyra
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#250 - thenaiveone
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I suppose you would like that Eugenics started up again, wouldn't you?
#221 - drneno
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Anyone else see the contradiction? If our generation gets dumber each generation, how do we develop better medicine?
#245 to #221 - mrnolanbarker
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Doctor's or scientists in the medical field are getting smarter, everyone else....not so much.
#230 to #221 - galkawhm ONLINE
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As a whole we get more stupid. Only a few people have to be smart.
#194 - thebritishguy
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it's not true though, I.Q has gone up loads since the 60's
#196 to #194 - HarvietheDinkle
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That's the result of education - another variable.
#197 to #194 - anon
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I.Q. isn't overall intelligence jackass, it's the ability to learn.
#204 to #194 - beerterror
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Do you see that? Well I don't. And IQ isn't an indication for wisdom and common sense.
#216 to #204 - theshadowed
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But it says in the post intelligence. Not wisdom
#219 to #216 - beerterror
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In my opinion intelligence without wisdom is worth ****, and it creates danger and moral black hole, to quote a certain band.
#211 to #204 - piobaireachd
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mass media has allowed us to see the stupidest people firsthand
plus people just seem dumber if they're in larger quantities. Their stupid traits stand out
#222 to #211 - beerterror
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Perhaps you're right. But the modern understanding of intelligence isn't helping anyway.
#210 to #204 - thebritishguy
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maybe our I.Q has gone up meaning we see no point in educating ourselves and some of us want to have an ignorant blissful lives were they don't get involved in conflict or deep thought, our intelligence and freedom has become our enemy
#214 to #210 - beerterror
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Ancient Greeks would laugh at such stupidity. If you say that ignorance is bliss, then you can call cattle in the field "happy". But yes, it's possible. Sinister, but possible.
#244 to #214 - thebritishguy
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I think in some cases my own knowledge has upset me like I know that when I buy something it could have been made by a poor child or even slave on terrible conditions. I would be happier if I didn't know that but I don't regret learning about it.
#173 - gisuar
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“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”

― Socrates

blabla quotes on the internet and stuff but this one is at least as legit as veni vidi vici
#138 - HURLEYSURFERDUDE
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It's called Darwinism. And yes, doctors these days have nerfed it. Along with overprotective parents. Back in the old times if a kid wanted to stick a fork into the electrical socket and died, of course it was sad, but they deserved what they got. Nowadays tis absurd to think that people die because of their own deeds.
#114 - bobodevetjedan
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This made me think of Idiocracy.
#41 - felixjarl
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#23 - hamstergeddon
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#2 - shitattack
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Having read some of those labels, I think it's a great thing that it's a special occurrence in the U. S. of fukken A.

In my country, those idiots don't get past early childhood. And this country is rich.
#4 to #2 - arziben
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*koff* rednecks *koff*
#257 - donglewotsit
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Socialism is undermining natural selection amongst humans. Whereas in nature, the weak would fail to breed and die and the strong would breed and pass on their genes; society now artificially supports those to survive who otherwise would not. The bad genes are being passed down more numerously than the good genes, and so ultimately what we are experiencing is the devolution of mankind as a species.
#286 to #257 - newposterintown
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We've evolved past nature's limits...
#290 to #286 - donglewotsit
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No. We are as much part of nature as anything else. You'd be naive to think we were above it.
#291 to #290 - newposterintown
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Nature's limits, not nature, dummy.
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#82 to #74 - traceirving
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True, but that's very similar to saying 'knowledge is merely opinion, you can't know anything' which I'm sure most people would disagree with.
There is such a thing as measurable intellect, even if it isn't worth all that much to many people. Doesn't mean it isn't real.
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#38 to #32 - infernoimmortal
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Idiocracy, you fag.
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#40 to #39 - infernoimmortal
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u talk like a fag.
#11 - AccWasLost
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People are getting smarter, and people are getting dumber.
Anyone who says to kill all the idiots has to realize that without the idiots, there are no geniuses.