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Comments(290):
#174
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icewraith (01/30/2013) [-]
There are more and more humans, so naturally there will be more idiots than before, but the percentage of those humans that are smart is actually getting higher with each generation.
#182 to #174
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N. Korean citizen (01/30/2013) [-]
.... So you're just gonna pull stupid things out of your ass and sct like you know what you said, huh? The percentage isn't getting higher... The percentage stays the same, while the total population grows making the number of smart people higher.. But not the percentage.
#173
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gisuar (01/30/2013) [-]
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
― Socrates
blabla quotes on the internet and stuff but this one is at least as legit as veni vidi vici
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
― Socrates
blabla quotes on the internet and stuff but this one is at least as legit as veni vidi vici
#167
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putridgrim (01/30/2013) [-]
Each generation has gotten smarter thanks, in part, to texting and the internet. Now read this before you have a shit fit = Schools often say that texting ruins peoples' writing skills, but it doesn't, people who hate to write and never write anything on their free time still text so, so like or not, they are still writing more than any other generation before simply because they are texting. And with the internet and other shit like that its just easier to obtain information now than it ever was before. And you may say that most people don't use the internet for info, but Im sure they have accidentally learned shit. Think about what it would be like without google. I feel dumber just thinking about it
#215 to #206
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putridgrim (01/30/2013) [-]
It doesn't matter what you normally use the computer for, everyone has learned something useful from the internet. And there's no argument against that. Like I learned that there are a group of awkward homosexuals who call themselves "Bronies"
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tinyer (01/30/2013) [-] Have you seen what people search lately?
Anyone with a question over a complex topic wants a simple solution.
Research rarely happens outside of school papers or job reports.
It's complete bullshit that our generation has become smarter since the standards for education are so low.
Anyone with a question over a complex topic wants a simple solution.
Research rarely happens outside of school papers or job reports.
It's complete bullshit that our generation has become smarter since the standards for education are so low.
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putridgrim (01/30/2013) [-]
Our standards are low? Im assuming youre around 20 years old or so, my nephew just started school and his teacher, that's been teaching for 30 years told us that everything he is learning right now, in Kindergarten, is what we were learning in the 2nd and 3rd grade. Everything is getting harder.
#248 to #242
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tinyer (01/30/2013) [-] My old high school recently instated a new test that is "impossible to fail".
Standardized testing was bad before but it seems to me like the problem is getting so much worse.
I do believe you're right about the early levels of education becoming more difficult, but so far that's only elementary.
I also apologize for my rude remark earlier, I didn't exactly mean you in particular, I just meant the average high school student.
Standardized testing was bad before but it seems to me like the problem is getting so much worse.
I do believe you're right about the early levels of education becoming more difficult, but so far that's only elementary.
I also apologize for my rude remark earlier, I didn't exactly mean you in particular, I just meant the average high school student.
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putridgrim (01/30/2013) [-]
Oh well thankyou, that also depends on the region youre speaking of, East St. Louis High School near me makes it impossible to fail and never marks anyone absent so they can make as much money from the state as possible. But my school had some of the highest test scores in the area and we took all the gov-regulated tests.
#148
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sockprague ONLINE (01/30/2013) [-] We don't get less intelligent every generation. Every generation the population as a whole is smarter. That's why the older you are when you take a IQ test the lower your score will be..
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Crusader ONLINE (01/30/2013) [-] Well no.
Because IQ is based upon pattern recognition, argument skills and math.
The reason older people on average do worse with those is because when you get old, senility and other brain problems occur, hence why more old people have Alzheimer's, dementia, etc.
But you are correct the society as a whole is getting smarter, but that is because a small minority is pushing higher and higher, whereas most other are staying about the same.
Not to mention that it is easier to communicate now, with the internet, rather than by post 100 years ago, a courier 100 years before that, etc.
Because IQ is based upon pattern recognition, argument skills and math.
The reason older people on average do worse with those is because when you get old, senility and other brain problems occur, hence why more old people have Alzheimer's, dementia, etc.
But you are correct the society as a whole is getting smarter, but that is because a small minority is pushing higher and higher, whereas most other are staying about the same.
Not to mention that it is easier to communicate now, with the internet, rather than by post 100 years ago, a courier 100 years before that, etc.
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Crusader ONLINE (01/30/2013) [-] You said that " the older you are when you take a IQ test the lower your score"
But that is not true.
The IQ test does not change, it covers the same things, things that are not relative to new information, it is a test about the basic principles of knowledge, pattern recognition, argument skills and math.
The average young person will score the same as the average old person, between 100 and 110.
You said that older people score lower because the population learns new things, even though the test does not test on those things, as they are irrelevant.
But that is not true.
The IQ test does not change, it covers the same things, things that are not relative to new information, it is a test about the basic principles of knowledge, pattern recognition, argument skills and math.
The average young person will score the same as the average old person, between 100 and 110.
You said that older people score lower because the population learns new things, even though the test does not test on those things, as they are irrelevant.
#279 to #272
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Crusader ONLINE (01/30/2013) [-] Show me the source.
The IQ test has tested the same things for years now, and uses the same grading system
It does not test how "smart" you are.
It tests
Pattern recognition
Argument skills
Math
Those things do not change, your score does not change, or else people who took the test back then and got average, would now be retarded.
But they aren't.
The IQ test has tested the same things for years now, and uses the same grading system
It does not test how "smart" you are.
It tests
Pattern recognition
Argument skills
Math
Those things do not change, your score does not change, or else people who took the test back then and got average, would now be retarded.
But they aren't.
#283 to #279
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sockprague ONLINE (01/30/2013) [-] Dude, how fucking thick are you. The average score changes. 100 IQ is always the average because every generation gets smarter, they adjust what counts as 100. If it NEVER changed a gas station attendant would be a MENSA member. Do you get it now? It really isn't a tough concept.
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Crusader ONLINE (01/31/2013) [-] That's not true, you aren't seeing what I am saying.
If a 100 back in the 70's is a 70 now, then people who were fine then you be technically retarded now.
It doesn't work like that, someone who got a 100 back then would get a 100 now (or very close to it) because of the fact that what they test does not change.
We learn new facts, new trivia facts, things that are unrelated to what they test.
If a 100 back in the 70's is a 70 now, then people who were fine then you be technically retarded now.
It doesn't work like that, someone who got a 100 back then would get a 100 now (or very close to it) because of the fact that what they test does not change.
We learn new facts, new trivia facts, things that are unrelated to what they test.
#147
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abachonk (01/30/2013) [-] Exactly!!! That's why #cutforbieber wasn't that bad at all, Hitler didn't do anything bad and also, we should try ecoterrorism.
#138
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HURLEYSURFERDUDE (01/30/2013) [-] It's called Darwinism. And yes, doctors these days have nerfed it. Along with overprotective parents. Back in the old times if a kid wanted to stick a fork into the electrical socket and died, of course it was sad, but they deserved what they got. Nowadays tis absurd to think that people die because of their own deeds.
#135
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SuperCookie (01/30/2013) [-] I feel like I read somewhere that each generation actually gets smarter....we're just more aware of stupid people because of the advancements in media.
#131
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ftsfts ONLINE (01/30/2013) [-]
People are not dumber, the stuff they care about is whats changed. They emphasize pleasure, social acceptance, and stuff like that which are mostly not conducive to growing smarter as a society as well as the amount of people there simply are. We've been able to find negative Kelvin temperatures I'm recently finding out. That's how smart some of the people that live today are, the only reason you hear so much about dumb people is that they tend to believe they are smart and make a big splash on the media where as many smart people simply do their work which doesn't give allow to a lot of media coverage. Also once again because of the change of focus as a society Scientific and Mathematical discoveries simply aren't as interesting to people to highlight on the media as they were centuries ago when as a society we we're focused on learning.
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lakerman (01/30/2013) [-]
Not to be a dick but negative kelvin is physically impossible, at 0 kelvin (or absolute zero) atoms stop moving, therefore your object has no more energy to give to another system,
I would check the validity of your source good sir
More info on absolute zero en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_zero
I would check the validity of your source good sir
More info on absolute zero en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_zero
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ftsfts ONLINE (01/30/2013) [-]
www.rdmag.com/news/2013/01/temperature-below-absolute-zero
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/01/130104143516.htm
www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/347370/description/Hottest_temperature_ever_measured_is_a_negative_one
That was also my understanding my good sir, but that's exactly why I used that example. Somehow they did it. They were actually able to do it.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/01/130104143516.htm
www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/347370/description/Hottest_temperature_ever_measured_is_a_negative_one
That was also my understanding my good sir, but that's exactly why I used that example. Somehow they did it. They were actually able to do it.
#125
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causeineedaname (01/30/2013) [-]
this is why i see doctors as evil for what they do.
just because someone takes away your fear doesn't mean they are doing good.
and if anyone wants to have a intellegent debate on this then hey you are welcome to but if the only bullet you have is asking if i go to the doctor or not please understand what a bad argument that is and come up with something else
just because someone takes away your fear doesn't mean they are doing good.
and if anyone wants to have a intellegent debate on this then hey you are welcome to but if the only bullet you have is asking if i go to the doctor or not please understand what a bad argument that is and come up with something else
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underporches (01/30/2013) [-] It's a bad argument because it makes them a flaming hypocrite. If this was truly their personal philosophy, they would avoid the doctor altogether and perhaps use holistic healing methods (or, if they were a true hardcore Darwinian badass, just not do a damn thing and let nature take it's course.)
However, our dear friend daname here boldly flies in the face of common sense and grammar/punctuation to tell us that THE DOCTORS ARE THE TRUE EVIL MAAAAAAAN, all the while reaping the benefits of modern medical science.
Or so I infer. I mean, hey, it's not like medicine has actually cured anything, right? That's why we're all still wracked with polio and syphilis, and believe disease is spread by unpleasant smells.
However, our dear friend daname here boldly flies in the face of common sense and grammar/punctuation to tell us that THE DOCTORS ARE THE TRUE EVIL MAAAAAAAN, all the while reaping the benefits of modern medical science.
Or so I infer. I mean, hey, it's not like medicine has actually cured anything, right? That's why we're all still wracked with polio and syphilis, and believe disease is spread by unpleasant smells.
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causeineedaname (01/30/2013) [-]
i didnt say they were evil. but more the job of doctor is evil. people are good natured. however by saving everyone we are slowly weakening and killing ourselves by allowing genetic conditions that shouldnt be passed on are passed on. and we are living longer and eating more and using up more resources and basically are worse off than cattle by our own hurtful tendencies. We are like teenagers in terms of waste of resources and just because we CAN do something doesnt mean we SHOULD.
#124
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alucardshellhound (01/30/2013) [-] **alucardshellhound rolled a random image posted in comment #71208 at Friendly **
#123
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N. Korean citizen (01/30/2013) [-]
is intelligence hereditary?
My mum is a lawyer and my dad is a doctor,
while i am dumb fuck who had to google how to spell hereditary
......and intelligence
My mum is a lawyer and my dad is a doctor,
while i am dumb fuck who had to google how to spell hereditary
......and intelligence
#112
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helenwheels (01/30/2013) [-] "Everyone these days is stupid!..!!. except for me!!... and also, things have gotten worse.."
If you spoke to any random individual from the 1700's do you really think they'd be smarter than any random individual today? This generation, where education is mote free and open to anyone than it has EVER been?
People aren't as dumb as you think they are, you're just so self centered that you assume people are stupied when they annoy you talking to someone else, if you made friends you'd see that they really aren't as dumb as they sound.
If you spoke to any random individual from the 1700's do you really think they'd be smarter than any random individual today? This generation, where education is mote free and open to anyone than it has EVER been?
People aren't as dumb as you think they are, you're just so self centered that you assume people are stupied when they annoy you talking to someone else, if you made friends you'd see that they really aren't as dumb as they sound.
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redeadhunter (01/30/2013) [-] That's a pretty good point, actually. Yeah, if you look at history you'l hear about plenty of geniuses such as Galileo, Einstein and Tesla But let's look at how much support these men got and look at their time periods
Galileo, who lived in the 1600s brought some very enlightening knowledge as to the Nature of our Solar System. Sent to prison for heresy.
Tesla, from the 1800s gave us the light bulb. Fucked over at the patent office by Thomas Edison and bitch-slapped into relative obscurity.
Einstein in the 1900s, with revolutionary ideas for Gravity, time and the speed of light. Contributor to the Manhatten Project. Won Nobel peace prize, International reverence and fame during and well after his lifetime.
In a relative sense, humanity is becoming more and more enlightened as time goes on.
Galileo, who lived in the 1600s brought some very enlightening knowledge as to the Nature of our Solar System. Sent to prison for heresy.
Tesla, from the 1800s gave us the light bulb. Fucked over at the patent office by Thomas Edison and bitch-slapped into relative obscurity.
Einstein in the 1900s, with revolutionary ideas for Gravity, time and the speed of light. Contributor to the Manhatten Project. Won Nobel peace prize, International reverence and fame during and well after his lifetime.
In a relative sense, humanity is becoming more and more enlightened as time goes on.
#288 to #287
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MacheteJoe (01/31/2013) [-] In a way...yes. You made a very valid point but there is a widening gap between the intelligent and the ignorant. I live in a rural area of north Georgia and it's happening similar to what op and the movie described. I think H.G. Wells had the right idea in "The Time Machine" with humans spliting into two different species. Just not as drastic as in the book.
