nah he couldnt be or else the sun would have melted him DUH!

Even without all the fancy stuff of making wormholes, it is still possible to travel this far and still be alive. A space ship that has a form of renewable fuel, plus cyro chambers and a species could travel infinitely far so long as they had power.

We aren't that far from working out cyro chambers either so we just have to build a space ship that can run on solar power or some other form of energy we haven't discovered and send it on it's merry way. Sure, by the time they get there years will have passed and their entire family may or may not be dead but we still traveled the amount of distance it would take to possibly run into another form of life.

he never said humans aren't intelligent, he just said we might be dumber than other life forms, that is all.he even gave a step by step example to what hes saying, you only proof him right by ur dumb founded retardedness

Those inventions may be significant to us but what if they are insignificant to a specific kind of superior alien.
Space jump, worm holes can be used for traveling? and most of all, if that alien race is far advanced, they will have technologies that we can't possibly think of, or achieve ( at least for now). Well there are possibilities that some aliens are less developed than us
Humans are intelligent but will we be considered as intelligent to a more superior species? Anyway there are theories so we can't be sure.
But there is one thing we can be sure of, we are not alone.

Just because we have these inventions doesn't make us intelligent. A worm may think he's smart because of all he's accomplished in his life but really its insignificant to us. That's what this guy is trying to get at. Who's to say we're the most superior species in the galaxy or universe?

Also, you don't need to travel at the speed of light when you can bend space itself. Wormholes could be a very possible means of travel for advanced life-forms. Instead of going over a mountain(going in a straight line through space), why not tunnel through the mountain(create a wormhole) to make the trip shorter?

You love thinking about Neil Degrasse Tyson? That's kinda weird.

i fixed it for you!

sounds like the mice from HItchikers Guide To The Galaxy

I feel sorry for you if your life is so pointless that this is what you do to entertain yourself.

I concur. It should really spend more time learning basic language skills.

but asians read minds anon, you can't exlpain that

You know, I am not an atheist, nor am I a believer. And I honestly didn't think I would say this, considering the fact that there hasn't been a post that involves both aliens and God. But since you felt the need to involve them both. Fuck it, I am just going to say it, but there is way more proof of extraterrestrials than there is of God. God, is just a belief. He may exist and he may not exist. That is why he is belief. NO LIVING THING, truly knows if God exists or not. It doesn't matter whether you genuinely believe in God, or think God is pure bullshit. Truth is, no one fucking knows! But there is so much fucking evidence that proves aliens exist. I honestly could care less if people believe in God or not. All I know, is that there is alien life out there. And I think that is tight shit. So you shut your fucking mouth, buddy.

To be fair, it is funny, and it is junk.

Holy fucking shit dude.
*don't exist
*They "exist"
*is no evidence proving they exist
*aliens exist
*are your
*they exist (if I have to tell you one more time I will find you and kill you)
*aliens'
*proves

Now that that's out of the way...

You say there is no evidence that they exist and cite a random astrophysicist. Well, Neil deGrasse Tyson is an astrophysicist too, so they cancel out. In any case, that's a fucking retarded argument, because at the same time there is no evidence that they do NOT exist.

Since when did atheism come into this? Sounds like you're just a butthurt believer. The post had nothing to do with religion at all.

'Science is based on logical evidences, but without evidence of aliens, atheists believe that aliens are exist.' Well, unfortunately for you, science is actually also based largely on theory. If you want to get into the little metaphysical technicalities (though I fear your intelligence may be too small to comprehend them), nothing is truly proveable. What you call 'evidences' is actually conjectures drawn reasonably from results. They are not concrete. What I'm trying to say is that the mathematical probability points overwhelmingly to the existence of alien life, so we can reasonably draw that conclusion. But to atheists, there is zero proof of God, so that conclusion is not reasonable. Your argument is thereby invalidated.

Nobody can do it, so it must be true, right? No; just because nobody has done it before does not mean it cannot be done. YOUR logic is fatally flawed.

And as a side note, I'm a Christian AND I believe in extraterrestrial life. They are not mutually exclusive. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that aliens don't exist.

oh GOD my brain

First of all, learn the english language. Second, we exist. We are proof that intelligent life can form. We are the only known example of intelligent life. There has been not one example of a being that created us. My point:
Examples of intelligent life: 1; examples of gods: 0

1/10 anon.

Knowing how vast the universe is, to say we're alone in it is the most retarded thing anyone can say, especially for an anonymous Christian troll.

The fucking statistics alone say you're an idiot.

I, in name of the good Christian community, condemn this post as blatant faggotry.

Are you familiar with the Schrodinger's cat theory? Until we have solid proof, then intelligent life must both exist, and not exist at the same time. Which one you choose to believe in is up to you entirely.

It isn't even familiar with language, I doubt it's familiar with quantum theory.

A fair observation. I'll save these theories for someone more coherent next time, haha.

xD although Schrodinger's Cat is, admittedly, one of the more simple ones. Fairly straightfoward logic--if you can't measure it, you can't claim anything about it.

Sometimes simplicity is what is needed, as it doesn't complicate things more than what is necessary.

Go too far into these quantum theories, and eventually I hit point where it's all conjecture, backed up by math I do not understand and it all goes over my head.

While I do believe they do exist, I can't argue with this point either, I'm afraid.

Indeed. I too believe that it is extremely likely that we're not alone. It seems FJ isn't really a fan of my neutrality though. Oh well, to each their own.

"Aliens doesn't exists."

That may be the most retarded way to begin a paragraph that argues with Neil deGrasse Tyson's logic.

that gif always creeps me out

The monumental flaw in that logic/statement is that 'any persons knowledge' = truth. Yes, I agree, it IS a theory and therefore possibly untrue. But it's so highly improbable that we are the only intelligent life that it may as well be true. Our very existence is proof that intelligent life is possible. There are billions upon billions upon billions (repeat ad nauseum) of planets out there. You do the math.

I completely agree with you. Most theories/hopes and dreams, are that we'll discover life on some distant planet that is far more advanced than us...What if we're the oldest race out there, what if we'll be the "aliens" landing on some other planet, who are just now picking up tools, or learning to read. So that in a thousand years(or what ever) when we discover their civilization we're the advanced ones bringing interstellar knowledge.

While what you say is certainly possible, the sheer mathematical improbability is impossible to ignore.

by "sheer mathematical improbability" what are you referring to? just for interest sake

Well, consider the following (and I'm serious; I'm not trying to be a sarcastic jackass, something that the 'consider' phrase has unfortunately become associated with):

1. 'Life' is a manifestly broad term. A single bacterium counts as life. Yes, a microscopic, unicellular organism.
2. The sheer number of organisms on this planet is incontrovertible proof that life, regardless of its intelligence, can exist.
3. The number of planets is practically incomprehensible. Astronomers have speculated that there are several trillion in the Milky Way alone.

Given all of that, is it not immensely likely that at least one single bacterium exists somewhere on at least one of the bajillions of planets out there?

I mean, yes, even with all that it's still a theory, a mathematical assumption; I completely understand that. But IMO it's a pretty damn reasonable assumption.

Agreed
1. I suppose that's why we refer to "intelligent life" because if you found even one, single celled organism on mars(for example) that is "life" on another planet.
2.again agreed
3.100% agree with you on that. "the drake equation" (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation) certain variables plugged into his equation suggests there are 1000 to 100,000,000 civilizations in our galaxy alone. (not solid evidence but a theory)

And I guess that was more the point I was trying to make, we're only just reaching the edges of our solar system(in terms of sending probes etc) who knows whats out there. I definitely believe about life on other planets, not sure what form that life will be.

Another theory I have is that most of our science is based on (for lack of a better word) fire, the why we get car engines to operate etc etc. Which might and I say "might" have influenced the way we perceive the universe around us. What if other civilizations discovered something else before they discovered fire. But now I get into a conversation where I could I go on and on and on and I really should get back to work :)

Yes, that is true; makes for a much livelier debate. xD
I agree with your mention of the Drake equation; I didn't bring it up earlier because IMO it's not the most reliable thing--it's possible to get it to equal a ridiculously small number that would supposedly mean we are alone in the entire bloody universe, something that I think is mentioned in the Wikipedia article--but I do still subscribe to what it proposes. In any case, that tiny number is obtained by deliberately using the smallest possible values, so it's effectively a manufactured result.

That is a very interesting theory. I have always considered fire the most important 'invention' in the history of mankind, but I've never thought of it that way before. I suppose if some civilisation managed somehow to harness electricity before fire, they would be quite markedly different!

You're browsing FJ, your time mustn't be that important. So what do you have to lose by reading?

Your loss.