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#121890 - cognosceteipsum ONLINE
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Ya know. Say what you will about Jews but one Jew actually saved my life and the other helped me a lot.
#121923 to #121890 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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(11/04/2015) [-]
they cant suck your blood if you are dead
#121909 to #121890 - anon
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(11/04/2015) [-]
Your welcome
-lulz
#121920 to #121909 - cognosceteipsum ONLINE
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(11/04/2015) [-]
No, you can't take credit for this at all.
#121834 - anon
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Who the fuck is this lulz guy?
#121840 to #121834 - Zaxplab
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(11/03/2015) [-]
He is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma, with autism.
#121889 to #121827 - cognosceteipsum ONLINE
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(11/03/2015) [-]
I got 2%.
#121893 to #121889 - ciaphascain
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Me too.
#121846 to #121827 - cognosceteipsum ONLINE
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Wow, so either you hate them or you think they're great. No middle ground in most hear questions
#121855 to #121846 - whoozy
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(11/03/2015) [-]
The best part is the text at the end of the quiz
So much butthurt
#121838 to #121827 - anon
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(11/03/2015) [-]
10%
I guess the truth is antisemite
#121839 to #121838 - anon
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Shit, forgot t. ragnarfag
t. ragnarfag
#121841 to #121839 - shekelnator
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(11/03/2015) [-]
y u not logged in?
#121842 to #121841 - anon
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(11/03/2015) [-]
I'm on vacation on Malta and I rarely login when I use FJ with my phone
t. ragnarfag
#121843 to #121842 - shekelnator
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(11/03/2015) [-]
say hello to the kebabs
#121844 to #121843 - anon
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Sorry the Habsburger expelled most muslim arabs from Malta in the 14th century
#121845 to #121844 - shekelnator
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(11/03/2015) [-]
WAVE TURKISH FLAG
#122165 to #121845 - ragnarfag
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(11/06/2015) [-]
The maltese people do however speak a latinized old arabic dialect called Malti
Also I'm back
#121835 to #121827 - shekelnator
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(11/03/2015) [-]
sorry im semite
#121836 to #121835 - shekelnator
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(11/03/2015) [-]
BUT I AM DAMN FUCKING SEMITIC!!!!
#121898 to #121836 - ciaphascain
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Not with that language.
#121854 to #121836 - whoozy
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(11/03/2015) [-]
#121831 to #121827 - Sethorein
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(11/03/2015) [-]
7% antisemite.

Oy vey
#121853 to #121831 - whoozy
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(11/03/2015) [-]
What did your comment say?
#121861 to #121853 - Sethorein
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(11/03/2015) [-]
That I'm open minded or something
#121863 to #121861 - whoozy
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Jews get the best results
This is rigged. I'm calling it!
#121864 to #121863 - Sethorein
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Pick the Jews and you'll never lose ^_^
#121865 to #121864 - whoozy
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Unless you're arab
#121866 to #121865 - Sethorein
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(11/03/2015) [-]
They didnt pick the Jews now did they?
#121829 to #121827 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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(11/03/2015) [-]
You are a 65% Anti-Semite!

You are quite an immature, deluded person. You harbor way too many paranoid untruths that have dictated your life to be the neurotic, pathetic bundle of superstitions it is. Take a reality check, and don't let it bounce this time, okay sweetheart?
#121852 to #121829 - whoozy
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(11/03/2015) [-]
I'm surprised you didn't score higher
#121856 to #121852 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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(11/03/2015) [-]
tbh the test is spot on on some of these things, maybe unforgiven5 did it to meme me
#121902 to #121856 - unforgivenfive
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(11/03/2015) [-]
I got a 99 bazillion percent antisemitic jk of course I got 1%
#121984 to #121902 - cognosceteipsum ONLINE
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(11/04/2015) [-]
Test's incredibly dumb tbh.
#121820 - thebritishguy
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(11/02/2015) [-]
If there's a God and I am punished for not believing in him. It would be odd to be punished for not being able to discern the truth of something. I don't understand how that would be considered something you are guilty of. Will I be told that I wasn't gullible enough and my standard of evidence was too high? Will someone who is the same as me in every way but more gullible be rewarded while I will be punished?

If I wanted to believe in God, I would not be able to. Since I'm not able to un-know that there's no rational reason to believe in a God. I don't have the capacity to un-know something, or I would simply un-know the spoiler to a film and it wouldn't irritate me. Instead I must be irritated.
#121808 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Who here has had formal religious schooling? Eg seminary
#121903 to #121808 - unforgivenfive
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Went to Jewish day school, had bar mitzvah, and am planning on majoring in Jewish studies/theology
#121832 to #121808 - Sethorein
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Me
#122082 to #121832 - giveherthebanana
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(11/05/2015) [-]
Im lulz remember.
#122087 to #122082 - Sethorein
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(11/05/2015) [-]
In english...

I recognized your username but I didn't remember if you were a hebe
#122085 to #122082 - Sethorein
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(11/05/2015) [-]
I recognize the name for I got no clue which camp you fall in. I'm so proud of making the beautiful religion art ^_^
#122088 to #122086 - Sethorein
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(11/05/2015) [-]
I can see images fine. I think your browser is borked.
#122089 to #122088 - giveherthebanana
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(11/05/2015) [-]
what did u than mean by which camp?
#122090 to #122089 - Sethorein
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(11/05/2015) [-]
Hebe

Muzzie

Nazi

Mormon

I'm pretty sure those are the camps on /religion/
#122091 to #122090 - giveherthebanana
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(11/05/2015) [-]
well im a jew obviously, russian roots but born in Israel. I'm a reactionary, far rightwinger, nationalist, ect. not a self-hating jew or a nazi though
#122092 to #122091 - Sethorein
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(11/05/2015) [-]
Hungarian myself. I never liked the term self hating. Implies that not liking your community means you don't like yourself.

But yeah, I don't like judaism very much. I am atheist after all. No religion really appeals to me. Judaism just gets special notice because it was my fellow Jews who ruined it for me.

But eh it happens. I'm a centrist on most things. I have a very "live and let live" attitude.

I do condone almost everything Israel does though. Lost too many people in my family in the holocaust to ever take a stance that would make the one haven for Jews less safe.
#122093 to #122092 - giveherthebanana
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(11/05/2015) [-]
Hungary is currently doing a great service to Europe.

My religious stance is agnostic theism, I just believe something is out there, whether it be some kind of personal God or a deistic creator, idk. I try to hold a personal connection with a God even though I do not know if one exists because it helps me in some sort of level (optimism on reality an all). I'm curious as to how jews ruined religion for you?

"I do condone almost everything Israel does though. Lost too many people in my family in the holocaust to ever take a stance that would make the one haven for Jews less safe."
Same/agreed.

I'm hoping you aren't a Trudeau fan, really sucks what happened this election. I have little hope for this country.
#122094 to #122093 - Sethorein
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(11/05/2015) [-]
Let Hungary do to the migrants what they did to the Jews in WWII

How did they ruin Judaism for me? Two parts I suppose. My peers bullied me for the entirety of my education. The joy of jewish private school is the same assholes who bully you in elementary will bully you in middle school will bully you in highschool. Some might argue that "you would have been bullied anywhere". But I wasn't bullied anywhere, I was bullied exclusively by Jews for 12 years. My happiest times were spent at camp or in theatre where I was with exclusively non-jewish people.

2nd part comes from how Judaism ruined my family dynamic. I have no family cause of the holocaust I gotta live with that. I have one set of cousins on either side. We aren't close because one went to Israel and the other are "raccoons" for lack of a better term. So then there's me, my mum, my dad, and my siblings. My borther and sister were both mentally ill. My brother had antisocial personality disorder and killed himself earlier this summer, my sister is a high functioning autistic with generalized anxiety disorder and a wicked manipulative streak to her. My dad is an emotional invalid from the shit upbringing he received by his fucked up holocaust survivor parents. So the only person I could have a relationship with was my mother (HA STEREOTYPES). Well that relationship has effectively been destroyed by Judaism. She cannot abide by the fact that I won't promise her that I will marry Jewish. This was so bad that when I got my first girlfriend in highschool and I rushed to tell her she called me an emberassment, unromantic, pathetic, and said I should never tell anyone and break up with the shiksah immediately.

She told me I was finishing hitler's job.

So yeah, I hate Judaism. Because Jews think I'm hitler because I love people for who they are, not who they worship.

I am not a trudeau fan per se. I did think harper needed to lose though. He has too much bad press. We need a reshuffling of the conservative party. Get some fresh faces in there, some new ideas. I was hoping for a minority government though. This majority will be problematic.
#122095 to #122094 - giveherthebanana
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(11/05/2015) [-]
>Let Hungary do to the migrants what they did to the Jews in WWII
I'm afraid to argue with you about this because I fear I will lose much respect for you, but this statement is completely ridiculous just so you know. As a person who has also lost family in the holocaust (russian jew remember), i find it embarrassing that you compare the holocaust to a fucking civil war in syria where we SUPPORT THE BAD GUYS. also its been proven that most of them arent actual syrian refugees or families either.

As for the Judaism thing, I understand how that led to your beliefs, I'm really sorry for about your brother btw. I will say though that since I had a far more positive up-bringing, I do plan on marrying and having kids with a jew because of my parents and my personal beliefs on intermarriage and continuing the tradition. feel free not too I guess since you have different beliefs, but frankly I agree with your parents. my dad would probably disown me if i married a non-jew, especially a non-white. i wanna continue the whole thing and try to raise my kids jewish though I dont really believe in the religion but more so like the culture and morality it provides. though im not religious at all expect for trying to hold a personal relationship with a god if it is out there, i tend to agree with religious people more, and find atheism to be equally illogical for me, but thats all opinion anyways.

as for your political opinions, as a reactionary, right-winger. I have nothing to say but i disagree with everyting, respectfully I guess.
#122098 to #122095 - Sethorein
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(11/05/2015) [-]
Allow me to clarify.

Hungarians were too "civilized" for the dirty work of killing jews. They sent us by carriage to the trains that would lead to our death.

Let them wave goodbye to the migrants. Send them by carriage back to Syria.

Yeh. I don't anticipate much agreement regarding my jewish stance. It was a personal trauma after all. That's why I adopt the live and let live stance. You like Judaism? Cool. I don't. It has always felt like a burden to me. But that was my experience.

Listen, I like the conservatives, but Harper was unpopular. He wins elections by the skin of his teeth and honestly... his social policies have been pretty bad (C13 and C51? These are the canadian equivalent to the patriot act!)

This new government will give the conservatives a chance to regroup. I'm kinda mad about the majority though.
#122143 to #122098 - giveherthebanana
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(11/06/2015) [-]
>Hungarians were too "civilized" for the dirty work of killing jews. They sent us by carriage to the trains that would lead to our death. Let them wave goodbye to the migrants. Send them by carriage back to Syria.

I don't really get this, are you one of those pro-migrant retards?

>Listen, I like the conservatives, but Harper was unpopular. He wins elections by the skin of his teeth and honestly... his social policies have been pretty bad (C13 and C51? These are the canadian equivalent to the patriot act!)

Again, as a reactionary. Harper is no where near perfect for me, far from it. He's just the best we had, as for bill C51 and C13, I support them. I'm not trying to argue about it, just explaining why the justification is irrelevant to me.
#122096 to #122095 - giveherthebanana
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(11/05/2015) [-]
*except for
#122084 to #122082 - giveherthebanana
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(11/05/2015) [-]
WTF the picture doesnt come up
#121817 to #121808 - ragnarfag
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Religious (evangelic or catholic) and ethical (i.e. the rest) classes are mandatory here
#121819 to #121817 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Where is here?
#121837 to #121819 - anon
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Bavarian education system (most german states have their own independent system)
#121810 to #121808 - shekelnator
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(11/02/2015) [-]
in our education system religious class is a must. everyday
#121847 to #121810 - cognosceteipsum ONLINE
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Sounds annoying. We never have the same class each day
#121848 to #121847 - shekelnator
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(11/03/2015) [-]
well it is fun

each day we learn something for the future.
#121849 to #121848 - cognosceteipsum ONLINE
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(11/03/2015) [-]
I've never learned anything useful in religion class. Sure, it's interesting to a degree, but it's useless.
#121850 to #121849 - shekelnator
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(11/03/2015) [-]
talk 2 urself MAH BOI
#121851 to #121850 - cognosceteipsum ONLINE
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(11/03/2015) [-]
?
#121812 to #121810 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
You got it.
#121800 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
#121766 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Hey Jewish bros! Does this help you out?
#121833 to #121766 - Sethorein
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Lehi went to America? How?
#121867 to #121833 - ciaphascain
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(11/03/2015) [-]
His sons, mainly Nephi, built a ship. The ship was of a design that they were not familiar with. God gave Nephi the plans and also told him to where to go to obtain ore. This was on the coast of the Arabian Peninsula.
#121875 to #121867 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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(11/03/2015) [-]
what are you a mormon or something?!
#121878 to #121875 - ciaphascain
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Well, yeah.
#121904 to #121878 - unforgivenfive
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(11/04/2015) [-]
You're Mormon huh?
Not the first that I've met
#121914 to #121904 - shekelnator
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(11/04/2015) [-]
a rare pokemon is found.
#121882 to #121878 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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(11/03/2015) [-]
eww get out heretic
#121883 to #121882 - ciaphascain
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Actually, you're the Heretic.
#121885 to #121883 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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(11/03/2015) [-]
>american meme religions
>legit

get out zion
#121869 to #121867 - Sethorein
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Any physical evidence left of any if this?
#121873 to #121869 - ciaphascain
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(11/03/2015) [-]
This was over 2550 years ago.
#121876 to #121873 - Sethorein
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Which is why I'm skeptical. To make a boat capable of crossing to North America 2000 years before the Europeans pulled it off is a bit of a leap
#121880 to #121876 - ciaphascain
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Heck, it's been found that some Native Americans visited the Roman Empire.
#121879 to #121876 - ciaphascain
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Europeans were her derp. Chinese, Jaredites, and Phoenicians made it to America before Europeans. It's not that hard.
#121871 to #121869 - ciaphascain
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(11/03/2015) [-]
The place where the ship was built has been found: www.latter-day.com/bofm/ship.htm
#121830 to #121766 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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(11/03/2015) [-]
pharasei get out
#121872 to #121830 - ciaphascain
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(11/03/2015) [-]
I'm not of the tribe of Judah.
#121874 to #121872 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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(11/03/2015) [-]
in this day and age, nobody is
#121877 to #121874 - ciaphascain
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(11/03/2015) [-]
I'm of the tribe of Ephraim.
#121881 to #121877 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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(11/03/2015) [-]
how can you proove it?
#121884 to #121881 - ciaphascain
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(11/03/2015) [-]
It's in my Patriarchal Blessing. C'mon, primary children know this. I want to like you, but you're being ignorant.
#121905 to #121884 - unforgivenfive
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(11/04/2015) [-]
We bless our children to be like epraim and mennasseh as well. But most Jews come from either Judah,Shimon, or Levi. Some from Dan(Ethiopian jew) and others from India, Afghanistan, Iran,etc.... That are from other tribes
#121907 to #121905 - ciaphascain
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(11/04/2015) [-]
You don't have the Priesthood do you?
#121952 to #121907 - unforgivenfive
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(11/04/2015) [-]
we do. the leviim were typically the priests, and theres the kohanim within the tribe of levi that are still alive
#122071 to #121952 - ciaphascain
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(11/04/2015) [-]
If someone can prove they are a Levite (Patriarchal Blessing states what tribe they are in) they get ordained a bishop.
#122145 to #122071 - unforgivenfive
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(11/06/2015) [-]
In Mormonism?
Huh. Well you have to prove patrinal decendence to be a Kohen, but prove matrinal decendence for every other tribe in order to be jewish. The mother can be a convert for you to be Jewish but the father has to be born Jewish to be a Kohen

Its a bit confusing
#121886 to #121884 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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(11/03/2015) [-]
>implying im likable
#121887 to #121886 - ciaphascain
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(11/03/2015) [-]
You're still alive, aren't you?
#121888 to #121887 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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(11/03/2015) [-]
sometimes i dont even know
#121891 to #121888 - ciaphascain
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Herp derp job?
#121892 to #121891 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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(11/03/2015) [-]
no qt gf
#121897 to #121892 - ciaphascain
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(11/03/2015) [-]
I knew that feel, then I got married. Ya never know.
#121915 to #121897 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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(11/04/2015) [-]
>getting married
#121942 to #121933 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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(11/04/2015) [-]
whats that even supposed to mean
#121906 to #121897 - unforgivenfive
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(11/04/2015) [-]
He's literally the NEETEST
#121916 to #121906 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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(11/04/2015) [-]
#121765 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
#121760 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Remember guys, cannibalism isn't as bad as stealing virtue.
#121735 - dogziller
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(11/02/2015) [-]
convince me in a god that cares about me personally. i can believe in an omnipotent deity, superstrong and beyond our comprehension, but i cant comprehend something like that caring about me personally.
#121821 to #121735 - thebritishguy
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(11/02/2015) [-]
I care about you dogziller and I'm pretty much God
#121823 to #121821 - dogziller
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(11/02/2015) [-]
nuh uh
#121758 to #121735 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Here's why he cares about you personally: you are his spirit child. What father doesn't care for and provide for his child? He wants you to grow up like him. That's why he sent you to this earth. To test you.
#121750 to #121735 - shekelnator
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(11/02/2015) [-]
do you want god to take care of you?
#121798 to #121750 - dogziller
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(11/02/2015) [-]
i dont want anybody too, really.
#121807 to #121798 - shekelnator
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(11/02/2015) [-]
so the problem is you and not everyone
#121811 to #121807 - dogziller
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(11/02/2015) [-]
maybe. but i cant accept myself being a problem. because if im a problem then i shouldnt exist. im not a problem, im the solution and the one who solves shit.
#121813 to #121811 - shekelnator
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(11/02/2015) [-]
They say make everything simple and you will be happy. make everything complicated and you will be depressed.
#121825 to #121813 - whoozy
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(11/03/2015) [-]
Ignorance is bliss
#121816 to #121813 - dogziller
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(11/02/2015) [-]
thats actually...a good way to see it. i am more certain of myself when things are simple, like i have to get a job. but when i get a job i want to complicate things by asking myself these stupid questions about "am i straight? do i want to be a woman?" idk
#121740 to #121735 - Sethorein
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Part of omnipotence is omnipresence. Kinda hard not to care about everything when you occupy everything.

He watches you masterbate.

Every time.
#121746 to #121740 - dogziller
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(11/02/2015) [-]
but does he care if i make the right choices? or that i succeed in life, or shit like that? does he care about humanity, and really, who denounces our existence, god, or the devil? this board also will probably see alot more of me.
#121759 to #121746 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
He most definitely cares about what choices you make. He rejoices when you do good and do service. He's sad when you make mistakes and he gets angry when you do evil on purpose.
#121803 to #121759 - dogziller
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(11/02/2015) [-]
jesus i thought this was a philosophy board but its just a religion board.
#121806 to #121803 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
'Grats
#121814 to #121806 - dogziller
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(11/02/2015) [-]
like i mean i keep philosophizing about how a god would act and what principles are to be practiced but its hard to pin it all down, and work backwards from that to a belief system that i want to believe in
#121815 to #121814 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Read the scriptures.
#121818 to #121815 - dogziller
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(11/02/2015) [-]
why? i know the stories of the bible. hell, im named after the last prophet of the old testament. i was in catholic school for all of middle school. what use is this? anyway, i prefer CS Lewis tbh.
#121748 to #121746 - Sethorein
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Honestly, most conceptions of God don't go into particulars regarding his perspective on things. Orthodox followers would even argue that trying to understand God in human terms is risking blasphemy/idolatry.

They describe him as infinite and often included in attributes of his character are traits of love, patience, and compassion. And heck, he has to judge your soul so he must care a bit.
#121749 to #121748 - dogziller
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(11/02/2015) [-]
i dont even want to approach that kinda shit. im talking about just a vanilla god of everything. i know im important to other people but..idk whats so important about me sometimes.
#121709 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Has anyone here even read the scriptures?!
#121822 to #121709 - thebritishguy
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(11/02/2015) [-]
I watch the bible reloaded, I used to read the bible a long time ago but it's incredibly repetitive and boring.
#121826 to #121822 - ciaphascain
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(11/03/2015) [-]
So stabbing a fat guy and having his fat suck the dagger out of your hand and into his body is boring?
#121935 to #121826 - thebritishguy
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The majority of the bible isn't like that
#121938 to #121935 - ciaphascain
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How about massacring Baal worshippers?
Executing multiple kings because they kidnapped your nephew?
Killing guys with the jawbone of an ass?
Benaiah the son of Jehoidah?
#121939 to #121938 - thebritishguy
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How about repeating the exact same story but with tedious differences
How about listing tediously specific ways to worship or sacrifice
how about begats?
#121941 to #121939 - ciaphascain
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I LOVE the begats!
If the story "repeats(the children of Israel are worshipping idols again)" itself, it's only 'cause Israelites are thickheaded.
Benaiah the son of Jehoidah
#122164 to #121941 - thebritishguy
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I appreciate some of the poetry in Psalms, rest of it is shit.
#121718 to #121709 - mvtjets
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Only the scriptures of T my friend
#121717 to #121709 - Sethorein
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Read the old testament... cause I'm... Y'know, jewish.
#121722 to #121717 - ciaphascain
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You're a Jew?! Faithful?
#121743 to #121722 - unforgivenfive
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I'm the only semi faithful jew here..except maybe lulz..but he's not g-d fearing
#121757 to #121743 - ciaphascain
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Welcome cousin! I freaking love Jews.
#121787 to #121757 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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>cousins

are you autistic?
#121794 to #121787 - ciaphascain
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I am not.
The only physical abnormality I have is to need glasses.
#121782 to #121757 - unforgivenfive
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Also Ive been on FJ a long time. should I should be welcoming you
#121980 to #121782 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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mate kabalah is litteraly mysticism and herecy and you still shill for that guy, didnt the golem kill people?

whos hashem? that one of your retcons?

if that was true then he wouldnt have preached anything that contradicts the ot, which we know he did alot, the quote refers that he is sent to fufil the pact with God and pay the price of sin which is death for all of man kind, jew and gentile alike, there are also a bunch of quotes about him fufiling the prophecies of the messiah

>dissing memes
>on a site about funny pictures

#121986 to #121980 - unforgivenfive
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mysticism is not inherently herecy. only when used for non-holy purposes of self gain.
>still shill for that guy
for whom??
> didnt the golem kill people?
yes people who were murdering jews. the golem wasnt a person though.

Hashem =the name. its what we see as not to misuse the name of the lord

any contradiction supposed is merely a misunderstanding on behalf of the user of the text in question
#121992 to #121986 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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so killing is a holy purpose?
shilling for the golem maker
>people who were murdering jews
yes you would now also tell me that bilions of jews were killed and that they din du nuffin

* le what black man*
but you are still saying his name in vain just a diffrent string

shows how much you know of the new testament
#121994 to #121992 - unforgivenfive
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no. killing should only be reserved for defense. the golem was killing in the defense of a few thousand not "billions".

>but you are still saying his name in vain just a diffrent string
is name is YHVH anglicanized. in liturgy we say adonai, and in common conversation we say the name.
its used to respect the name thats all.
now the 3rd commandment isnt about misusing g-ds name in conversation its about using the name and word of g-d to commit evil atrocity. like the crusades or the modern jihads.

shows how much you know of the Torah
#121996 to #121994 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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>couldnt use the clay/mud/shit/whatever to build a wall
>uses it for a minion of death

Is this silly fairytale really a part of kike theology or are you just beeing a bad schlomo?

yeah but when you call a cigar a fag, you are still saying cigar, its just a stupid loophole like omar's daytime only fasting
#121999 to #121996 - unforgivenfive
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As we saw in china, berlin, and in modern israel

Building a wall doesnt always help.

>Is this silly fairytale really a part of kike theology or are you just beeing a bad schlomo?
its mainly a folk tale that goyim like yourself love to meme about. not really apart of the jewish theology at all.

>yeah but when you call a cigar a fag, you are still saying cigar
compare it rather to saying the first name of a king in his presence, its especially disrespectful when you say it whilst ignoring his presence. so we say the lord or make mention to his name out of respect for the most high, recognizing his ever presence and status, your false analogy is little obtuse even for you
#122002 to #121999 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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why not just use the magic to calm them down ? why the murders?

>its mainly a folk tale that goyim like yourself love to meme about
"о не!"

and you know that saying the first name of a king would be offencive because he is supposed to be sent by god to rule thus if you insult the king you insult god, this is circular logic
#122004 to #122002 - unforgivenfive
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because g-ds will is for people to have free will. if kabbalah tried to effect free will it would no longer be kabbalah and thus blashphemy.

thats why I said you SHOULDNT say the first name of a king/ of G-d.
thats why we dont say the name. its too informal to refer the first name of an authority figure to their face. it's really direct logic. if you insult a king your insulting a man. but if your insulting a king DIRECTLY mandated by the lord than youre insulting both.
#122006 to #122004 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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why the fuck kill them tho? just take away their weapons and they will get scared and run away, its not like they'll harm the golem, but no gotta kill them

dont think of a brown dog you litteraly just did also you lost THE GAME

My point is that its silly to belive God would be offended like that in this day and age.
#122010 to #122006 - unforgivenfive
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like I said its a folk tale. folks tales arent always made to make sense. just to tell a story or a lesson.

oh yeah I agree, i still dont say the name out of respect for my creator though.
the main message against using the name was to make sure you werent commiting sin in using it. like if you said "by the will of -----, youre going to die for cheating me!" and then murdering someone. that would be against the third commandment.
by saying "oh my god i had a shitty day". g-ds not too disappointed in you for sure, hes more disappointed in derka derka abdul malik for saying "g-d is most high" and then immediately blowing up a school or stabbing a child
#122015 to #122010 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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>just to tell a story or a lesson
somewhere on the bottom of the atlantic ocean is a clay monster walking towards europe

>blablabla
oK
#122016 to #122015 - unforgivenfive
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a bit disingenuous today aren't we faggot?
done pandering to my "shill fest"
go get some sleep you filthy degenerate
#122022 to #122016 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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kill yourself
#122023 to #122022 - unforgivenfive
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ah i made the troll sad.

I apologize. but you were being quite r00d
#122030 to #122023 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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Click to show spoiler
Implying i can be sad if im never happy.

have a shoveldog.gif
#121786 to #121782 - ciaphascain
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You're new to me.
#121778 to #121757 - unforgivenfive
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thats nice! at least someone does lookin at you dehumanizer
#121783 to #121778 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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>jews are anti-christian
>somehow cousin

that guy is too bluepilled
#121796 to #121783 - unforgivenfive
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not anti christian, nor anti christ.

we simply believe he wasnt the messiah. that is it.
#121804 to #121796 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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dont even try to lie to me
#121900 to #121804 - unforgivenfive
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Just based on your automatic assumption that I'm lying leaves me with proof that there is never and never will be a use to talking to you
#121917 to #121900 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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>litteraly the decendant of the pharasei
>not anti-christian
#121953 to #121917 - unforgivenfive
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The pharasei were the common class...of which jesus belonged to.
Jesus had a problem with the sadducees and the preistly caste. who didnt believe in an afterlife and soley focused on the temple rituals and not enough on hashem.

youre so misinformed its laughable
#121960 to #121953 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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well not really since they too fall under the term, i dont care about your bastardisation spinoff of the old testament, tbh yidish is just fake german
#121963 to #121960 - unforgivenfive
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fucking wot?

the sadducees and the pharesei were definitly 2 different sects of jews the third at the time being the Essenes.
> i dont care about your bastardisation spinoff of the old testament
its the OG version going back to paleo hebrew( dead sea scrolls)
> tbh yidish is just fake german
off topic m8. your losing your edge quicker than a Bulgarian bayonet
#121967 to #121963 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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ofcourse you see i am refering to all of those who called themselves from the tribe of judah but did not follow the son of God and even had him killed for blasphemy

in these modern day i dont belive there are any real decendants of the ancient israelites and whenever i hear about jewish race i just tip my fedora and give them reddit gold
#121969 to #121967 - unforgivenfive
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then call it something else. they werent all pharesei, the tribes were split into each of those sects, even the levites were split. the 3 roman era jewish sects were similar in concept to sunni/shia muslims. politico-religious differences only. same group of people (Israelites) same religion (judaism/samaritism- AKA ethical monotheism)
same nation as a whole. all suffering under roman rule, just different ways of dealing with it.
#121970 to #121969 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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oK
#121805 to #121804 - ciaphascain
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He's not.
#121828 to #121805 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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my good goy, you are wrong
#121792 to #121783 - unforgivenfive
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IDK technically we're all related
#121788 to #121783 - ciaphascain
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>Jews worship Jesus Christ whether they know it or not.
>All who belong to the Church of Jesus Christ are Israelites, just like the Jews.
>What lie are you referring to?
#121801 to #121788 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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they absolutely reject Christianity and the talmud they practice is litteraly cancer, do not be decived
#121901 to #121801 - unforgivenfive
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You've read every tractate of the Talmud? If not then that would be a hasty generalization.....infact almost everything you ever say is hasty generalization or ad hominem
#121918 to #121901 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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"you see on page 251, there is not a single passage about killing the goyim, therefore the talmud din du nuffin"
#121791 to #121788 - unforgivenfive
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not neccessarily. The process for jewish conversion is complex. also.

no. though Jews believe that moshiach is coming, we don't believe he has already came, and we definitely do not believe it was yeshu ben yoseph shel nazereth.

though we recognize his previous existence as a man, a great rabbi, and yet finally a false prophet
#121797 to #121791 - ciaphascain
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Click to show spoiler
>Be within the next 40 years.
>Jerusalem under siege.
>Messiah comes down out of the sky dressed in a red robe.
>Wipes out the enemies of Israel.
>Jews ecstatic, crowd around Him as He lands.
>They notice that He has holes in his hands and feet.
>Jews ask Him where he got them.
>Messiah tells them He received these in the house of His friends.
>They realize that their Messiah was Jesus Christ the whole time.
>JCFW the Jews realize this.
#121799 to #121797 - unforgivenfive
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look at it from our perspective.

if we all converted and JC isnt the messiah then all the jews are fucked for believing in a false prophet.

if the christians are right then JC will forgive us for not believing in him.
so better to stay in the position we're in now
#121802 to #121799 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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wow nice cop out
#121899 to #121802 - unforgivenfive
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How is that a copout
#121919 to #121899 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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ok so from your prespective
1) Jesus Christ was a fraud.
2) The Prague golem was totaly real and it prevented 6 bilion prague jews from getting holocasuted.
#121954 to #121919 - unforgivenfive
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yep. though the number saved by the golem was only a few thousand.

prague is not a very big town.
#121958 to #121954 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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Then howcome they didnt make a golem to get out of the death camp!?!

And yeah you had a copout, nice religion you have there? Accepting the love and tolerance that christ preached will get you damned but beliving in muh golems is legit.

Also you are not some 2nd century eskimo, knowing about christianity and not joinging it will not redeem you.
#121961 to #121958 - unforgivenfive
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because only the most learned of scholars knows the skills to make a golem.
the golem is not a deity.its not all powerful like god is.

the love and tolerance christ preached was based on the lessons of love and tolerance orignally taught by moses. just forgotten by the sadducees.

>Also you are not some 2nd century eskimo, knowing about christianity and not joinging it will not redeem you.
A) what does this mean and B) why not? also by not loving and tolerating me you are literally going against the word of your suppossed saviour so.
#121965 to #121961 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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and no scholars ever died in the holocasut i suppose?

dude mosess litteraly killed a guy, that one time, but yeah much love and tolerance for the egyptians, you cant really say its the same message

1 "There is no judgment against anyone who believes in him. But anyone who does not believe in him has already been judged for not believing in God's one and only Son." cant quite remember the exact quote but hearing about the message of God yet choosing to not follow it, wont do you any favours.
a) >love
i have a hard time grasping this concept
b) >tolerating
well i do let you post your stuff, even tho its litteraly the devil's message
#121968 to #121965 - unforgivenfive
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most learned. specifically the very select few who knew practical kabbalah necessary to gather the materials and energy needed to make it.
not every rabbi is a master in everything. they are all pretty smart though.

love and tolerance for a nation enslaving you.....uh huh.
I will say that moses still loved pharaoh his brother till the end of his life.
also jesus broke laws made through gods ordinances..which is technically also sinning. NO prophet is perfect m8. in fact almost all of them are described as imperfect for specific reasons in the torah. its one of the main ways lessons are taught to us. the main lesson being the imperfect beings can still be holy. and that we have that same capacity for holiness
> cant quite remember the exact quote
then dont quote it.
>i have a hard time grasping this concept
its a basic human necessity to love. all I can say is git gud.
>well i do let you post your stuff, even tho its litteraly the devil's message
you dont let me do anything, I have every right to post what I want here...as do you.
#121972 to #121968 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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you know you are litteraly takling about magic here, muh statue coming to life to kill for my bidding

didnt he also kill the pharow and the egyptian army while they were persuing them in the sea? like why not just close the sea to the other side so they have to go back? its not like they would have gone after them considering how badly egypt got fugged, but no they just squashed them

>Jesus sining

not true since he was sent to fufil the law of those prophets and overwrite it

also the quote i posted was a diffrent one

>muh love
no you git gud scrub
>2015
>having any feelings
gay

>muh rights

see, tolerance in action
#121974 to #121972 - unforgivenfive
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>you know you are litteraly takling about magic here, muh statue coming to life to kill for my bidding

if you dont know what something is dont assume anything. kabbalah is not magic. magic implies a power higher than G-d. when infact the power involved in Kabbalah is a direct part and effect of g-ds might.

>didnt he also kill the pharow and the egyptian army while they were persuing them in the sea? like why not just close the sea to the other side so they have to go back? its not like they would have gone after them considering how badly egypt got fugged, but no they just squashed them
Hashem drowned the egyptians and pharoh in the sea of reeds. moses's focus was on leading the escaped slaves to freedom.

>not true since he was sent to fufil the law of those prophets and overwrite it
"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.…matt 5:17
this means that the old testament is just as important as the new testament. meaning all christians should follow the law regardless of jesus dying on the cross or not.


>muh love
no you git gud scrub
>2015
>having any feelings
gay
>muh rights
see, tolerance in action
^ this is why I really think your just an irreligious memer. you say one thing and do something entirely opposite to what your saying. AKA not practicing what you preach.
omar does the same thing a lot of the time. its quite sad really
#121780 to #121778 - ciaphascain
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Well why wouldn't I? Seeing as how we're cousins and all.
#121781 to #121780 - unforgivenfive
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if you havent noticed..there is a lot of anti-jewish users on FJ.

You are Christian I presume? born again? protestant/catholic/niether? humanist?.....gee dont you love labels?
#121785 to #121781 - ciaphascain
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Aww, most of the time they're just kidding around.
I belong to the Church of Jesus Christ. I am an Israelite of the tribe of Ephraim.
#121978 to #121785 - anon
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We're not kidding
#121789 to #121785 - unforgivenfive
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Ephraim? one of the lost tribes?
what is your nationality? if you dont mind answering. im either from judah or shimon...ashkenazic decent im a Lubavitcher Chassid
#121979 to #121789 - anon
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Ashkenazi are turks, khazars...
You have 0% holy Land blood
You're fake Jews
The people in the bible have NOTHING to do with you
#121985 to #121979 - unforgivenfive
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ive said this already, the exhiled israelites moved in every direction a good 1/3rd of the kingdom of judah moved north towards eastern europe and converted the khazars
we have a pretty good amount of holy land blood
#121793 to #121789 - ciaphascain
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The 10 Lost Tribes were carried away captive into Assyria. From there they escaped to the west, north, and east.
I'm American and my ethnicity would be Norman and Celt.
#121795 to #121793 - unforgivenfive
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eh. the more likely theory is that the tribes of joeseph were sent west towards egypt then came back shortly after and traveled east. as their are egyptian, persian, and mizo jews along with the samaritans all claim they're from ephraim and menasheh.

ive heard the theory that the UK has israelite roots. i dont follow the trail of logic though
#121723 to #121722 - Sethorein
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Nope, sorry. Spent years in religious schooling doing the motions but never felt a connection with God. These days I just read works of theology, hoping perhaps that someone could come up with a compelling rational proof for him. Sort of an apathetic atheist I guess.
#121726 to #121723 - ciaphascain
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Awww.... now I'm sad. Go back to synagogue, cousin.
#121727 to #121726 - Sethorein
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If he's real I should be fine. Judaism is less strict than christianity when it comes to faith. You're just required to respect God and follow his laws. Believing he exists is irrelevant if you still follow the Mitzvot. Worst case scenario I break a handful of mitzvot pertaining to faith. 10 months in gehonim getting slapped on the wrist for that can't be too bad, right?
#121731 to #121727 - ciaphascain
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The funny part is that as long as you don't do anything too bad, you'll be blessed for being a Jew.
#121733 to #121731 - Sethorein
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I mean, in reality, most western atheists follow the important shit from the bible... Worst thing biblically speaking that is promoted in the west is acceptance of homosexuals... but I'm straight so I'm in the clear ^_^
#121755 to #121733 - ciaphascain
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Murder, homosexual behavior, adultery/fornication, denying the Holy Ghost, etc.
#121773 to #121755 - Sethorein
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Murder - Yes, western atheists murder for funsies!

Homosexual behaviour - What did I note here? Oh right, homosexual behaviour

Adultery/fornication - Got me there. We don't approve of adultery, but birth control definitely made sex more casual. Oh wait, in the bible belt where they teach abstinence only sex ed, the incidence of premarital pregnancy is much higher than on the coasts. Your move, religion.

Denying the holy ghost - No way, ATHEISTS DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD?! YOU'RE SHITTING ME. -_-
#121730 to #121727 - ciaphascain
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The funny part is that as long as you don't do anything too bad, you'll be blessed for being a Jew.
#121729 to #121727 - ciaphascain
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*comedic facepalm followed by a groan*
#121698 - Sethorein
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If there are any young earth creationists here I was wondering why young earth is more compelling to you than guided evolution?
#121703 to #121698 - ciaphascain
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Define "young earth".
#121704 to #121703 - Sethorein
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10000 years or younger.
#121706 to #121704 - ciaphascain
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That's preposterous. The Bible tells us that God(Jesus to be more specific) fashioned things. This took "time", measured in "days". We are told in the scriptures that God does NOT adhere to our concept of time. Each "day" for Him could easily mean a billion years for us. It(the Bible) says 6 "days", which is easily billions of years for us.
#121710 to #121706 - Sethorein
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good.
#121713 to #121710 - ciaphascain
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People think that God is some magical being and he's not. He has ALL knowledge. We mortals can't comprehend that. If knowledge = power, then he has ALL power.
#121715 to #121713 - Sethorein
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Is knowledge power without the agency to act upon said knowledge?
#121719 to #121715 - ciaphascain
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Explain what you mean.
#121720 to #121719 - Sethorein
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You said god has access to all knowledge. But what can he actually do? Can he influence anything in the mortal world with that knowledge? If he merely knows everything but lacks the agency to act, is he really all powerful? All power denotes the lack of ANY limitations. Attaching any flaws to god removes his title of "all powerful"
#121724 to #121720 - ciaphascain
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He doesn't just have access to it. The knowledge permeates his entire body. Heavenly Father acts through his Son, Jesus Christ. Who in turn acts through his servants, the prophets and apostles. Heavenly Father also sends the Holy Ghost to guide us, as well as unseen or seen angels in some cases.
#121725 to #121724 - Sethorein
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we haven't had an apostle or a prophet for a long time...
#121728 to #121725 - ciaphascain
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We've had prophets for the last 185 year, since the Ancient Church was restored in 1830. Where have you been?
#121732 to #121728 - Sethorein
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(11/02/2015) [-]
they haven't been publicized very well o.o
#121754 to #121732 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
We even got 3 new ones(prophets wax old and pass away too y'know) last month.
#121753 to #121732 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
3 prophets in the First Presidency and 12 in the Quorum of the 12 Apostles.
#121752 to #121732 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
TV ads, Internet ads, radio ads, magazines, books, small cards, and yes, even pamphlets.
#121751 to #121732 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
There are 15 prophets at any given time. Over 85,000 missionaries spread across the world at this very moment to share the message of the Restoration of the Church. 15.375ish million members of the Church right now.
#121772 to #121751 - Sethorein
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Name the current prophets.
#121774 to #121772 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Thomas S. Monson(President of the Church), Henry B. Eyring(First Counselor), and Dieter F. Uchtdorf(Second Counselor) are in the First Presidency just like Peter, James, and John anciently.
The other 12 are: Russell M. Nelson(President of the Quorum of the 12), Dallin H. Oaks, M. Russell Ballard, Robert D. Hales, Jeffrey R. Holland, David A. Bednar, Quentin L. Cook, D. Todd Christofferson, Neil L. Andersen, Ronald A. Rasband, Gary E. Stevenson, and Dale G. Renlund.
The 12 are listed by seniority. Pic is of the 12.
#121775 to #121774 - Sethorein
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(11/02/2015) [-]
How did they prove their prophetic legitimacy? Was there a sign? What are their prophesies?
#121779 to #121775 - ciaphascain
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He was then visited a few years later by an angel. The angel stated that his name was Moroni, and that he was a prophet here on North America around A.D. 421. He also stated that there was a record of his people that he sealed up in the earth with his own hand and that the boy prophet will be the one to translate it.
#121784 to #121779 - Sethorein
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Moroni... are you a Mormon?
#121790 to #121784 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Yes, "Mormon" is the slang term for a member of the Church.
#121777 to #121775 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
The first prophet of the Restoration was visited by Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ in his early teens. He was praying asking which church to join. They told him that the True Church wasn't on the Earth and that he should join none of them.
#121776 to #121775 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
One of the Restored Church's early(the 1830s/40s) prophecies states that there will be a Civil War because of succession by South Carolina.
#121686 - shekelnator
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(11/01/2015) [-]
for the new comers here
#121697 to #121686 - ciaphascain
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(11/01/2015) [-]
Or not.
#121734 to #121697 - anon
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(11/02/2015) [-]
pffft. you sure dont want to play WH40K games with me.
#121756 to #121734 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Not if you're rude.
#121681 - ciaphascain
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(11/01/2015) [-]
The Holy Ghost is the last member of the Godhead. He has no body, so he can be anywhere, even inside you. If you do what's right, the Holy Ghost will guide and protect you. The Holy Ghost is called the "still, small voice", but most people describe impressions given by him as "I suddenly felt like I should..." or "I felt a burning inside of me."
#121678 - ciaphascain
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(11/01/2015) [-]
Jesus Christ is the next member of the Godhead. He is Heavenly Father's literal son. He is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. He is tasked with leading the Church on this Earth. He works through prophets and apostles.
#121676 - ciaphascain
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(11/01/2015) [-]
The Godhead, or God for short, consists of three different people. The Most High God, commonly known as Heavenly Father, was once a human man and has a body of fless and bone, bUT notherwise blood. He is omnipotent(all powerful), omniscient(all knowing), but he is not omnipresent(being everywhere at once).
#121685 to #121676 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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(11/01/2015) [-]
>not omniscient

you wot?
#121694 to #121685 - ciaphascain
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(11/01/2015) [-]
Check it. I said "not omnipresent".
#121699 to #121694 - Sethorein
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(11/02/2015) [-]
is this a personal philosophy or one you've derived from theologians?
#121700 to #121699 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
It's what the scriptures tell us. Read them.
#121701 to #121700 - Sethorein
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(11/02/2015) [-]
No, that isn't how it works. The scripture is just words. Words mean nothing until humans interpret them. All theology is interpretive. Have you never been told that there are a million and one ways to read the bible, each adding greater depth to its wisdom?

So I ask once more, do you get these views from the works of theologians or is this a personal interpretation of the bible?
#121708 to #121701 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Words like "You'd better do that, or I'll light you on fire." Don't really need "interpretation". The scriptures are simple. Except for Isaiah and Revelations.
#121711 to #121708 - Sethorein
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(11/02/2015) [-]
plenty of the scripture is metaphorical...
#121714 to #121711 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Metaphorical parables that even those who are unlearned can understand. Or allegorical. Like the Olive Tree Allegory.
#121716 to #121714 - Sethorein
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When Miriam was talking shit to Aaron about Moses she was struck with leprosy. Moses came out and uttered an incredibly short prayer to cure her.

Multiple interpretations of this moment have been made. Did he utter such a short prayer because he was angry with her? Did he utter such a short prayer because he did not want to appear to be treating his family any better than he would treat any Israelite? Perhaps the lesson here is that it is not the length of the prayer but the intention that gives it weight?

The simple interpretation is Moses prayed and Miriam was healed, but there's far more depth that can be found when you really try to read into the scripture.
#121736 to #121716 - unforgivenfive
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Holy shit. Sethorein is talking Torah
I thought I'd never see it myself
#121739 to #121736 - unforgivenfive
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(11/02/2015) [-]
I hate that you still use hate against fellow yids...but whatever
#121742 to #121739 - Sethorein
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(11/02/2015) [-]
I don't quite get this comment. But you know my spiel. The loving community fucked up my childhood and essentially ruined my relationship with my mum forever. Kinda hard to get over that.
#121745 to #121742 - unforgivenfive
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Also meant the word "hate"
#121744 to #121742 - unforgivenfive
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Yeah you can..time heals all wounds in the end. This one will just take a long while.
#121747 to #121744 - Sethorein
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Why should I want to heal it though? My experiences in the secular world have been so much more enjoyable than my experiences in the Jewish world.

If I actually cared about religion maybe i'd be more driven to return , but my life without god is perfectly fulfilling for me. I am a good person, I surround myself with good people, and despite the challenges we face, life is pleasant.
#121738 to #121736 - Sethorein
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(11/02/2015) [-]
I hate the Jewish community, not Judaism.
#121741 to #121738 - unforgivenfive
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Fucking phone...my b
#121721 to #121716 - ciaphascain
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She was trying to take upon herself responsibility, and power, that wasn't rightfully hers, so she was cursed. When she repented, Moses used the Melchezidek Priesthood(the power of Jesus Christ given to His servants so that they can act in His name) to heal his sister. You can read into it all you want, but healing the sick and afflicted doesn't take a lot of words or time. Peter(the President of the Ancient Church) for example healed a lame man by using the Priesthood to say rise and walk.
#121702 to #121701 - ciaphascain
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(11/02/2015) [-]
Neither. This is what the SCRIPTURES(plural) tell us. It's true that you can draw an infinite number of lines through a point. With two points however, there is only one line.
#121705 to #121702 - Sethorein
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Does that not reduce the timelessness of the scripture (which is a valid form of referring to scriptures)?

What one series of books can truly provide enough in a single message to guide humanity in all stages of existence?

Furthermore, the books were written at different times by different people. Would this not lend credence to a scripture that is intended to be interpreted within the context of your existence?

Also, from what I gather you are telling me you interpreted this philosophy on your own. The words tell you nothing. You interpreted them.
#121707 to #121705 - ciaphascain
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We are told, in the scriptures, by the prophets, to liken all scripture unto ourselves. Which means that whenever an ancient prophet is exhorting a people we should plug our name in. Is Assyria getting chewed out for some sin? We better make sure that we aren't guilty of the same. Is King Ahab gettin' told? Examine yourself that you aren't guilty of the same.
#121675 - Elk
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(11/01/2015) [-]
MFW someone who isn't of my religion comes to this board
#121677 to #121675 - ciaphascain
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(11/01/2015) [-]
And you are...?
#121679 to #121677 - Elk
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#121680 to #121679 - ciaphascain
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(11/01/2015) [-]
You're a Hating Board denizen aren't you?
#121674 - ciaphascain
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(11/01/2015) [-]
Jesus Christ is a tall, muscular man. He belongs to the Israelite tribe of Judah. He had brown hair and a full beard. He had tan skin. He wore sandals. His cousin was John the Baptist.
#121673 - ciaphascain
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(11/01/2015) [-]
Muslims are supposed to be Christian. Muhammed's name appears 4 times.
Jesus Christ appears 25 times.
The only woman's name in the Qu'ran is Mariam (Mary) the mother of Jesus.
#121651 - princessren
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(11/01/2015) [-]
_ Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn_

Cthulhu fhtagn
Cthulhu fhtagn
CTHULHU FHTAGN
#121712 to #121651 - mvtjets
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(11/02/2015) [-]
you're still around lmao
#121667 to #121651 - ciaphascain
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(11/01/2015) [-]
Cthulu went down like a punk last time I fought him.
#121657 to #121651 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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(11/01/2015) [-]
memes xd xd xd
#121690 to #121657 - princessren
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(11/01/2015) [-]
Religion is just a meme that has lasted thousands of years
*tips fedora*
#121692 to #121690 - dehumanizer ONLINE
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(11/01/2015) [-]
haha no