Home Original Content Funny Pictures Funny GIFs YouTube Funny Text Funny Movies Channels Search
hide menu

Show All Replies Show Shortcuts
Show:   Highest Rated Top Rated Newest
auto-refresh every 1 2 3 5 seconds


Per page:
Order:
Latest users (1): syrianassassin, anonymous(4).
What do you think? Give us your opinion. Anonymous comments allowed.
User avatar #83834 to #83827 - teoberry (08/11/2014) [-]
le nostalgia
User avatar #83831 to #83827 - teoragnar (08/11/2014) [-]
10/10 Watch only if you are real G
User avatar #83789 - dumerveil (08/10/2014) [-]
So if an atheist gets baptized is there a special place in hell for them?
User avatar #83830 to #83789 - jokeface (08/11/2014) [-]
Atheists can't get "baptized". They can just get dunked in water. The word "baptize" (at least in the context in which you're using it) strictly refers to the act of submerging a Christian believer in water as a symbolic act of washing away their former, sinful self, and birthing their new, fresh self. It's all about the symbolism. Without believing in God, the symbolism is gone, and thus it is no longer a baptism.
User avatar #83907 to #83830 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (08/11/2014) [-]
So a baby cannot get baptized?
User avatar #83908 to #83907 - jokeface (08/11/2014) [-]
Not according to the Baptist Church. There are other Christian churches that believe in baptizing babies, like the Catholics. But we don't believe that a baby is capable of making the conscious decision to devote their life to Christ, so we wait until they're old enough to understand what's happening.
#83984 to #83908 - hesekiel (08/11/2014) [-]
Even though I'm catholic I certainly agree.
User avatar #83909 to #83908 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (08/11/2014) [-]
I like that.
User avatar #83910 to #83909 - jokeface (08/11/2014) [-]
Me too.
User avatar #83896 to #83830 - dumerveil (08/11/2014) [-]
Good point, but wouldn't my doing it without believing make a mockery of the act?
More than anything I felt really guilty about it all. It seemed to be a big deal to a lot of the people there.
User avatar #83901 to #83896 - jokeface (08/11/2014) [-]
I wouldn't call it a mockery, but I would call it heavily misguided. Baptism is not something that should be done out of being pressured by others. It's about forming a relationship with God. You're refusing said relationship, ergo the act means nothing. The fact that you felt remorse is better, I suppose, than not feeling remorse. It shows that there is a part of you that recognizes the significance of baptism and feels uncomfortable with the dishonesty of participating in a ceremony of which you don't believe in the spiritual value. As a Christian, I would say that your guilt is God reaching out to you. He's making you realize that the baptism is in fact sacred, and by falsely accepting it, you've actually discovered it's true significance.
User avatar #83816 to #83789 - teoragnar (08/11/2014) [-]
The really hot jacuzzi.
User avatar #83822 to #83816 - dumerveil (08/11/2014) [-]
I don't get what you mean by your other comment. I wasn't really giving an opinion, I was asking a question.
Also
>confesses feelings on the hating board
I knew Ren before this site had boards. I was under time impression that you were smart. Sorry.
0
#83824 to #83822 - lulzfornigeriagirl has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #83794 to #83789 - grogovic (08/10/2014) [-]
As in, you fucking retard.
User avatar #83793 to #83789 - grogovic (08/10/2014) [-]
Yes, just like how you are 'special' to our society.
#83790 to #83789 - hesekiel (08/10/2014) [-]
I don't understand what you're getting at.
User avatar #83791 to #83790 - dumerveil (08/10/2014) [-]
I'm not sure myself.
I've gone to the same church for 18 years and haven't really believed in god for the past 3 or so. I've still gone and observed all the customs and pretended for my mother's sake, and because the church is a community for me, but I've taken countless communions without "Examining myself" which is supposed to be a big no no. I also got back from being baptized not too long ago and I was wondering if that was the wrong thing as well.
#83825 to #83791 - thedeadpidgeon (08/11/2014) [-]
Well presumably if you're an atheist you really wouldn't be concerned about going to hell.
0
#83817 to #83791 - teoragnar has deleted their comment [-]
#83792 to #83791 - hesekiel (08/10/2014) [-]
Now, that's probably gonna surprise you but the belief in God is not mandatory, nobody ever said that if you don't believe in God you'll go to hell, neither for example is the active worship of God, the only things that are important in directly regard towards God are
1. Do not be blasphemous ( basically hating God, or saying bad things about him)
2. Do not worship idols (meaning that you shouldn't worship anything earthly or man made, I could explain that a bit more, but only if you want)
What you are supposed to do is following the way, the way of the prophets, Jesus (since He is the way, meaning that what he does is the way), the way of the Talmund, and so on.
The summary of the way, as a rabbi once said (he was challenged to summarize the laws in time he could stand on one leg) "don't do what you don't want others to do unto you". Or in short "Don't be cunt."
User avatar #83798 to #83792 - eight (08/11/2014) [-]
The Bible reiterates again and again in The New Testament that if you disbelieve you don't gain entrance into heaven.

Some believe you go to hell, a place of torment, death and fire as interpreted by scripture. Some believe you just stop existing, as interpreted by scripture, some believe you just live in separation from God, without his love and warmth as interpreted by scripture.

In any case, some people are getting a blissful eternal reward while others are not and all for some of the most absurd reasons. Because of this, it's still an issue and even more so if you do end up in a place of fiery death and torture.

It all depends on the interpretation, which should be a red flag. If a book of truth can be so easily interpreted and twisted to have conflicting meanings, then it probably isn't a book of truth.
#83835 to #83798 - anonymous (08/11/2014) [-]
[boo-hoo intencifies]
#83801 to #83798 - hesekiel (08/11/2014) [-]
Now tell me, smartass. Disbelieving what?
User avatar #83805 to #83801 - eight (08/11/2014) [-]
The Easter Bunny of course.

God. Jesus. What else did you think I could be referring to? Even your own comment surrounds the topic of discussion that is 'belief in God''.
#83807 to #83805 - hesekiel (08/11/2014) [-]
Disbelieving what exactly, I don't take your half-assed answer.
User avatar #83808 to #83807 - eight (08/11/2014) [-]
The existence of God?

Dude, this isn't rocket science.
#83820 to #83808 - hesekiel (08/11/2014) [-]
And as I said, believing in God is not mandatory.
User avatar #83829 to #83820 - eight (08/11/2014) [-]
You're entirely right. Belief isn't mandatory. But you will be punished if you don't believe, at least according to Christian theology.

Some might call that bribery and manipulation. And in some respects, you could consider belief mandatory. It's basically a case of 'Do what I say or else". And of course, the or else bit happens to be one of the scariest things imaginable. Only an insane person who accepts God would willingly choose to disbelieve under the circumstance. It's the illusion of choice, when really it's not a choice at all.
#83982 to #83829 - hesekiel (08/11/2014) [-]
"But you will be punished if you don't believe"
Okay, okay, I think you haven't read what I said. Nobody in the bible ever said that if you don't believe that God exists you will be punished.
User avatar #83986 to #83982 - eight (08/11/2014) [-]
If you're not gaining entrance into heaven, that is a punishment.

And depending on your interpretation of the text, that punishment has different severities. Eternal darkness, eternal torture or plain non-existence and probably more. The fact remains that according to Christian theology, if you fail to believe, you will not be rewarded. If you're not rewarded, the only alternative is punishment, you go to hell.
#83987 to #83986 - hesekiel (08/11/2014) [-]
"Christian theology"
That's such a vague term you're using, give me an example of a theology that represents this concept.
User avatar #83989 to #83987 - eight (08/11/2014) [-]
Christian theology is not vague in the slightest. If I were to say "according to theology" you would have reason to whine, but that isn't the case. I specified which theology and yet somehow you still get confused.

So lets break down Christianity, as that is what I specified as a theology.

Christianity is a religion inspired by The Bible, specifically The New Testament which covers the coming of Christ and all his teachings. The New Testament is what separates Christianity from Judaism. Out with the old, in with the new.
So now that we understand what Christianity is, we can determine that "Christian Theology" encompasses all works from The New Testament surrounding Christ's teachings and that of his followers.

It is under Christian Theology that brought about salvation of sinners so that these sinners would not have to suffer hell, but instead would be blessed eternally to live a wonderful, happy, afterlife in a nice place called heaven. Salvation is a universal concept among most Christian denominations. That's one of the few things they mostly all agree on.
#83991 to #83989 - hesekiel (08/11/2014) [-]
I think you don't understand, the christian theology is not one teaching, it as a shit ton of branches that are represented by a shit ton of theologians, that sometimes disagree or agree with each other, are declared heresy or a accepted as dogma by different churches.
What I want from you is to name a theologist that agrees with what you stated.
User avatar #83993 to #83991 - eight (08/11/2014) [-]
I'm afraid it is you who does not understand Christian Theology. It is all based around one simple principal: that through Christ, you attain salvation. That is a concept universally accepted among almost all denominations of Christianity.

So how do you attain salvation? Through acceptance of Jesus Christ. Through acceptance of God. You are required to believe in God. If you do not, you will not be granted salvation. That's the entire point.

Considering your reluctance to acknowledge even basic, fundamental teachings, I am beginning to wonder if you've ever read The Bible or even been to church. However, I have no idea about your background, you might not even be a Christian or never were one, so I am curious, what are your beliefs? Perhaps this can shed light on your ignorance in this subject.
#83998 to #83993 - hesekiel (08/11/2014) [-]
"I'm afraid it is you who does not understand Christian Theology. It is all based around one simple principal: that through Christ, you attain salvation. That is a concept universally accepted among almost all denominations of Christianity."
Ah no, simply no. Theology is about the nature of God, it originates in the ancient greek philosophy.
"So how do you attain salvation? Through acceptance of Jesus Christ. Through acceptance of God. You are required to believe in God. If you do not, you will not be granted salvation. That's the entire point. "
Obviously this a reference to John 14, He say: I am the way and the truth and the life, nobody comes to the father but through me.
Does He say "by believing in me?" NO, he says through me, that He is literally the way.
But let's go a bit back in time, what was the jews promised? A messiahs. What makes the messiahs special? That he fulfills the law, meaning that he is the perfect example of what the Halacha is targeting at. The messiahs is basically the embodiment of the "way". (Halacha means literally "walking")
Now what is Jesus? The messiahs. Therefore Jesus embodies the Halacha, the law, the WAY.
This all means that not by solely belief one is saved (which is let's face really silly) but that man has to change through Jesus aka the way, the truth, the life (not following the halacha means "death" or better "decay" in Judaism.), the Halacha.
I hope that answer your last question.
User avatar #84000 to #83998 - eight (08/12/2014) [-]
"Ah no, simply no. Theology is about the nature of God, it originates in the ancient greek philosophy. "

Theology - the study of religious faith, practice, and experience : the study of God and God's relation to the world
Now add Christian into the mix and the definition becomes much more narrow. It's like magic.

"Obviously this a reference to John 14, He say: I am the way and the truth and the life, nobody comes to the father but through me. "
This is a reference to several different parts of scripture. That was one of many.

John 3:36 John 3:16 John 3:28-29 1 Thessalonians 5:9 Acts 2:38 Acts 4:12 John 8:24 Matthew 7:21 Revelation 21:8 Matthew 25:26 Romans 6:23 Psalm 145:20Revelation 20;10 Daniel 12:2
This is only a sampling of the many verses in The Bible...

"But let's go a bit back in time, what was the jews promised? A messiahs. What makes the messiahs special? That he fulfills the law, meaning that he is the perfect example of what the Halacha is targeting at. The messiahs is basically the embodiment of the "way"."

One verse, one interpretation. Have you any method of determining whether or not your interpretation is accurate? No? Well, take that up with the big guy. Pray for less vague material (if of course there is actually someone to answer that prayer).

"This all means that not by solely belief one is saved (which is let's face really silly) but that man has to change through Jesus aka the way, the truth, the life (not following the halacha means "death" or better "decay" in Judaism.), the Halacha.
I hope that answer your last question. "

Here's the problem with that. If a man lives a good live, but doesn't believe in God, he still can't go to heaven. This renders belief the only truly necessary requirement. Because people can be decent even without knowing God or following "the way". sometimes they find it on their own. And yet, they'll still get punished. This is just another reason why The Bible is an immoral book.
#84005 to #84000 - hesekiel (08/12/2014) [-]
"Here's the problem with that. If a man lives a good live, but doesn't believe in God, he still can't go to heaven. This renders belief the only truly necessary requirement. Because people can be decent even without knowing God or following "the way". sometimes they find it on their own. And yet, they'll still get punished. This is just another reason why The Bible is an immoral book."
You pulled that pretty much out of your ass.
"One verse, one interpretation. Have you any method of determining whether or not your interpretation is accurate? No? Well, take that up with the big guy. Pray for less vague material (if of course there is actually someone to answer that prayer). "
Now, the fun fact is that actually none of those verses say anything against my interpretation. Belief in this context is not just the assumption that something exists, as you define it, since he said that some people hearing his teaching will not believe in him even tho they know he exists.
It's also not that vague, because it's pretty much the main teaching of Judaism.
User avatar #84012 to #84005 - eight (08/12/2014) [-]
"You pulled that pretty much out of your ass. "

What? I'm afraid I don't understand. Do you mean to say that the only good people in this world belong only to Abrahamic beliefs?

"Now, the fun fact is that actually none of those verses say anything against my interpretation. Belief in this context is not just the assumption that something exists, as you define it, since he said that some people hearing his teaching will not believe in him even tho they know he exists.
It's also not that vague, because it's pretty much the main teaching of Judaism. "

I don't follow. Belief - an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists. it's the universally accepted definition. If you mean something different, then you should probably use the appropriate word and not substitute the word 'belief' in its place.

The fact that it can be interpreted in so many different ways suggests that it is vague. Truth cannot be easily interpreted.

Have we both rambled on for 10 posts all because you use some weird ass definition for 'belief'? Thanks for wasting my time.



User avatar #83795 to #83792 - thebritishguy (08/10/2014) [-]
//nobody ever said that if you don't believe in God you'll go to hell// yes they do, some people think that you have to believe in Jesus in order to go to heaven. There's a lot of different ideas on how to get to heaven, or indeed, what heaven is exactly.
#83796 to #83795 - hesekiel (08/11/2014) [-]
I'm talking about the bible, not the numerous denominations.
User avatar #83797 to #83796 - thebritishguy (08/11/2014) [-]
Oh right, the denominations are also talking about the bible though, they interpretted it differently. I see why they interpret the bible this way:
John 3:16 ESV
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

There are many passages which reiterate this message, that you must believe to be saved.
#83800 to #83797 - hesekiel (08/11/2014) [-]
Now what did I said before? What does Jesus symbolizes? The way, He literally embodies the way. You must believe in the way.
User avatar #83802 to #83800 - thebritishguy (08/11/2014) [-]
Your interpretation is just that, yours. There are several different interpretations of what Jesus's symbolises, as with any symbol. Indeed the word "way" you use is so ambiguous that it could have many different interpretations. This is what's wrong with using symbolism and interpretation to deliver a message, everyone has their own subjective interpretations of the message and so nobody knows what the message actually is. People still can't agree on what God even is.

I certainly don't think that the bible says that atheists can go to heaven.
Psalm 14:1 ESV
To the choirmaster. Of David. The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good.

If we can do no good, are corrupt and do abominable deeds, then for us to go to heaven would be absurd.
#83803 to #83802 - hesekiel (08/11/2014) [-]
The way is the halacha, the halacha is the way to become just, or becoming like God, imitating. Jesus symbolizes the halacha by being God and being the messiahs.
That's not my interpretation that's what Judaism is all about and so also Christianity and Islam.
You atheist always state that being an atheist doesn't mean knowing that God doesn't exist. Rejecting God, as stated in this psalm would be blasphemy. Believe doesn't mean gnostizism.
User avatar #83813 to #83803 - thebritishguy (08/11/2014) [-]
I take it you are a masonic Jew, you're going to have a hell of a time on this board.

It should be evident by now that your interpretation of "the way" is one not shared by many others in the world. Even small things could be picked apart, whether Jesus was God is controversial as is what he symbolises, some even say that Jesus's death symbolises the passing of Jewish law.

I'm sure that many Christians, Jews and Muslims just on this board will fundamentally dissagree with you when you say that this all that their religions are about, Christians and Muslims don't even follow Jewish law.

I don't think the subtle distinction between an agnostic and gnostic atheist is going to change your moral behaviour. Like someones going to be a family man with a good job and family, one day his understanding of knowledge is shifted or he finds logical inconsistencies within the definition of God. Automatically he becomes a corupt monster, doing good is an impossibility, every deed abominable.
#83819 to #83813 - hesekiel (08/11/2014) [-]
I'm no jew, I just hold Judaism very important.
The interpretation is very simple, and I would call you inhumane if you disagree with it.
"Don't do to others what you don't want others to do unto you", I think Rabbi Akiva put that very nicely.
"Christians and Muslims don't even follow Jewish law"
They all follow the law of God, the all have the same core message. And yes, the theists on this board already agreed on that.
Other translations say other things, we would have to read the original text to clearify that.
User avatar #83821 to #83819 - thebritishguy (08/11/2014) [-]
I don't think you know what inhumane is, if you do then you are saying "if you don't hold my view then you are evil" that's very dogmatic behaviour.
You said yourself that they must follow the halacha, that is not one law, that's over 600. Why should I care about what a particular rabbi says? there are hundreds of other rabbis who think that every law is important and it can't be simplified.
I do contend with treating others like we would want to be treated though, by this logic we shouldn't put criminals in prison and I would touch a lot of genitals.

They do not follow what you call the way, Halakha. These laws are very different from one another, under Islamic law you would be treated unequally as an infidel.
#83983 to #83821 - hesekiel (08/11/2014) [-]
This is not dogmatic, I would call you inhumane if you believe that being just and the love for your neighbor is not a goal worth achieving.
If think you have no idea what Halacha even means.
Halacha means "walking" or better "chancing", it's the process of imitating God, Judaism does this through following the laws given to them by Moses and the talmund.
They do, by following what the halacha wants to convey. They all have the same core message.
And for the last part: You'd have to give me a concrete verse sample.
User avatar #83992 to #83983 - thebritishguy (08/11/2014) [-]
//I would call you inhumane if you believe that being just and the love for your neighbor is not a goal worth achieving. //
Too bad you never fucking said that in the first place, what you said was
//"Don't do to others what you don't want others to do unto you"//
This is very different, indeed it is contrary to justice. If you are to punish someone for a crime you are going against this commandment as you don't want to be punished, so it does not promote justice, it is a law which would enable criminals.

"Definition of HALACHA
: the body of Jewish law supplementing the scriptural law and forming especially the legal part of the Talmud " - It's not what one rabbi said while standing on one leg like you want to make out, it's the scriptual and legal sections, your vague simplistic bullshit is neither legal nor scriptural.
Christianity is in direct contradiction with Judaism and Jewish law, most Christians think that Jesus had a new law, that it doesn't matter what you eat, wear etc. Also the main spirit of Jewish law is "eye for an eye" for Christian law the spirit is "turn the other cheek" these are in direct contradiction.
Sharia laws don't really have verses, but they are based on the concepts in the hadith and such.
"13- Non-Muslims are not equal to Muslims and must comply to Sharia (pay Zizzya: poll tax) if they are to remain safe. They are forbidden to marry Muslim women, publicly display wine or pork, recite their own religious scriptures, or openly celebrate their religious holidays or funerals. They are forbidden from building new churches or building them higher than mosques. They may not enter a mosque without permission. A non-Muslim is no longer protected if he commits adultery with a Muslim woman or if he leads a Muslim away from Islam."
www.islam-watch.org/authors/79-mirza/625-islamic-sharia-law-in-brief.html
#83997 to #83992 - hesekiel (08/11/2014) [-]
This doesn't "enable criminals", do you steal because you want people to steal from you? Do you murder because you want to be murdered? Do you molest because you want to be molested?
So you read the first line of an wikipedia article? Good job!
Halacha is the way of imitating God, imitating God through the LAW given by Him.
It's not just the name of the law.
Do you fucker even know who Rabbi Akiba was? Probably one of the most influental rabbis to ever exist
You do realise that Jesus in the sermon on the mount doesn't change the law (as he clearly states) but rather fix it?
That article is really fucking biased, which hurts its credibility.

#83999 to #83997 - thebritishguy (08/12/2014) [-]
Well I do actually want to be molested, it is something of a fantasy of mine, so that was a bad example. But I was reffering to how criminals would be treated under this law, after all that's like the fucking point of a law. Criminals would just be laid off because I wouldn't want to go to prison and so I shouldn't send anyone to prison. If someone was going to rape my family I wouldn't stop them because I wouldn't want to be stopped. People have different needs, wants and need to be treated differently on the basis of their behaviour. I wouldn't treat a rapist the same way I would treat a charity worker, or a severely disabled person the same way as a body builder.

It wasn't wikipedia it was miriam webster, it's considered a highly valid source as it is run by Encyclopedia Britanica. I did look up several definitions though and they all ran along these lines.

I don't know any Rabbi's, I'm more interested in what the actual books say. Besides, every religious authority dissagrees with every religious authority.

I didn't say that the bible says that the Jewish law is no longer valid, I said that Christians say that the Jewish law is no longer valid.

This is better sourced: www.answering-islam.org/NonMuslims/rights.htm
0
#83782 - captainlevi has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #83775 - cognosceteipsum (08/10/2014) [-]
Jokeface. Why would the son of God need fanfares and other shit like that? He's the son of god and supposed to be humble and calm.
User avatar #83777 to #83775 - jokeface (08/10/2014) [-]
That's only one side of the two-sided coin that is Jesus' character. He first came to Earth as the Lamb of God, a symbol of purity and innocence, as well as the gentleness and caring that God asks of all mankind. But when He returns, He will show the glory and majesty of His kingship, as the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. Here, this article explains it better than I could:

einron.hubpages.com/hub/jesuschristlionlamb
User avatar #83779 to #83777 - cognosceteipsum (08/10/2014) [-]
I like that. I'll read it some time.
#83764 - anonymous (08/10/2014) [-]
Plz guis, take my quiz, it would mean very much to be, I have always been a man of god. www.quotev.com/quiz/5249487/How-kool-are-you/
User avatar #83786 to #83764 - teoragnar (08/10/2014) [-]
I'm 2kool4scool
#83788 to #83786 - hesekiel (08/10/2014) [-]
Welcome to tah club
#83774 to #83764 - princessren (08/10/2014) [-]
I'm sexy kool
I'm sexy kool
#83781 to #83774 - hesekiel (08/10/2014) [-]
2kool4skool
Get on my level, faggot.
#83765 to #83764 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/10/2014) [-]
darkforces i know that is you
User avatar #83766 to #83765 - darkforces ONLINE (08/10/2014) [-]
Plz no, don't reveel mi seecrts, I meen no harm
#83767 to #83766 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/10/2014) [-]
2late4u
2late4u
User avatar #83768 to #83767 - darkforces ONLINE (08/10/2014) [-]
PLZNO, I DO ANYTING!
#83769 to #83768 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/10/2014) [-]
gib shekels
User avatar #83770 to #83769 - darkforces ONLINE (08/10/2014) [-]
Oki, if u wan, but plz don tel anyon
#83771 to #83770 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/10/2014) [-]
they already knew   
   
-runs with the shekels-
they already knew

-runs with the shekels-
User avatar #83772 to #83771 - darkforces ONLINE (08/10/2014) [-]
Nuuuu, u trick me
0
#83763 - darkforces has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #83787 to #83761 - teoragnar (08/10/2014) [-]
You forgot to color him brown.
#83762 to #83761 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/10/2014) [-]
my name is omar mohammad omar
my name is omar mohammad omar
User avatar #83756 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/10/2014) [-]
Alif, Lam, Meem, Ra. These are the verses of the Book; and what has been revealed to you from your Lord is the truth, but most of the people do not believe.
Surat Ar-Ra`d (The Thunder) verse 1

how can the disbelievers deny the quran as the word of god, while it have allot of miracles. one of them are those:

Miracle of 19 in Quranic Initialed Suras: Sura 13
Of the 29 Quran Suras (of the 114) that have verse 1 as Quranic initials (Muqattat), (Alif. Lam. Mim. Ra.) (A. L. M. R) in Sura 13 constitute a major component of the Quran's built-in proof of divine authorship, the miraculous mathematical code. These initials prefixing Sura, No. 13, the total frequency of occurrence of the four letters is 1482, or 19x78. The letter “A” occurs 605 times, “L” occurs 480 times, “M” occurs 260 times, and “R” occurs 137 times in this sura.
User avatar #83721 - cleverguy (08/09/2014) [-]
for God to exist, it must be impossible for him NOT to exist.

do you agree?
User avatar #83857 to #83721 - ribocoon (08/11/2014) [-]
So if yes therefore definitely not no?
User avatar #83860 to #83857 - cleverguy (08/11/2014) [-]
what?
User avatar #83862 to #83860 - ribocoon (08/11/2014) [-]
If x is true,
x is definately not false
User avatar #83868 to #83862 - cleverguy (08/11/2014) [-]
oh yes, sorry
User avatar #83753 to #83721 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/10/2014) [-]
he is god, what do you think he is?

if you did read the 99 names of god you will see something different than other gods
User avatar #83811 to #83753 - cleverguy (08/11/2014) [-]
this response is completely irrelevant
User avatar #83832 to #83811 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/11/2014) [-]
because you have different views on god and i have my different views on him
User avatar #83838 to #83832 - cleverguy (08/11/2014) [-]
you didn't answer my question though
User avatar #83839 to #83838 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/11/2014) [-]
you are right in your point.

i never said you are wrong
User avatar #83841 to #83839 - cleverguy (08/11/2014) [-]
then how do we have different views if we agree?
User avatar #83843 to #83841 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/11/2014) [-]
you jews christians believe that you are all the beloved and sons of god.

while you are all not
User avatar #83844 to #83843 - cleverguy (08/11/2014) [-]
that is irrelevant to my question though
User avatar #83846 to #83844 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/11/2014) [-]
we agree on state that he exist and impossible that he dont exist,

but the way of views of god on other things will be different. and the example of what i said
User avatar #83849 to #83846 - cleverguy (08/11/2014) [-]
your first statement shows me that you misread my original post
User avatar #83850 to #83849 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/11/2014) [-]
>if god exist
>then impossible he wont exist

did i misunderstood something?
User avatar #83851 to #83850 - cleverguy (08/11/2014) [-]
you seemed to imply that i wrote that God exists, but i didn't write that, but yeah that's what i said.

so by extension, if it is possible that he doesn't exist, then he doesn't exist. would you agree with that as a logical followup?
User avatar #83853 to #83851 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/11/2014) [-]
as a Muslim i cant say he does not exist.

but if he dont exist then he dont exist.

User avatar #83854 to #83853 - cleverguy (08/11/2014) [-]
it's even broader than that- if it is even logically possible for the universe to exist without a God, then God doesn't exist
User avatar #83856 to #83854 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/11/2014) [-]
nope

because there was nothing before the universe then the universe came in sudden?

everything created have a creator. and god is the creator.

but you will tell me who created god?

god cant be created. god is god and he is the first and last. and there is nothing equivalent to him. this is god in islam.

nothing come from nothing.
User avatar #83859 to #83856 - cleverguy (08/11/2014) [-]
you've ignored my question, but i guess this was the corollary anyway

here's the thing, you can't talk so surely about what needs to happen for something to be created because nothing besides the universe had to be "created"
everything in the universe now that forms is just a rearrangement of existing matter and energy, none has been created or destroyed since the beginning of the universe. so we really don't know if "everything created needs a creator" because there is no evidence of that

the fact is, it is possible for something to come from nothing, because true nothingness has no limitations
User avatar #83863 to #83859 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/11/2014) [-]
then if your logic is true.

we will see things appearing from nowhere, and your logic never came to be.

everything we see now is created. once we see something appeared and not created then you are true.

sorry my computer im using was created by a bunch of people
and my salad i am eating is created by my mom by mixing and cutting the vegetables.

i never seen things come and pop up for no fucking reason at all
User avatar #83873 to #83863 - cleverguy (08/11/2014) [-]
that is because we don't live in nothingness, we live in a universe with limitations, but the beginning of the universe itself was not necessarily restricted by the limitations we have inside the universe
User avatar #83874 to #83873 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/11/2014) [-]
then when we see things pops up for no reason come imply your logic

i see everything is created i believe in creationism. because i saw everything is created

while your logic is never seen!
User avatar #83882 to #83874 - cleverguy (08/11/2014) [-]
you're not understanding.

in our universe things cant pop into existence from nothing because the laws of physics prevent that. the way the universe works makes it so that can't happen.

however, without the universe in existence, when it was nothingness, these restrictions did not necessarily exist.

the point: things work differently in the universe than they do in nothingness
User avatar #83749 to #83721 - whatley (08/10/2014) [-]
It's meaningless to agree or disagree, nobody could even begin to answer this question. One would have to have extensive knowledge of the mechanics of omnipotence, pre-existence-conditions, and other god-related things, which we will never have knowledge of. This question is another example of philosophy failing to bring anything useful to the table in modern times.

The Ontological argument is a what happens when people begin to flippantly throw around infinities in philosophical and logical proofs. With infinities in nearly any regard things make no sense, and so you can draw absurd conclusions from conceived ideas. In reality, infinities don't actually exist.
User avatar #83810 to #83749 - cleverguy (08/11/2014) [-]
im asking about the definitions of features of God, not about the universe
User avatar #83814 to #83810 - whatley (08/11/2014) [-]
Yeah, which no one knows or could possibly know. You'd have to know about mechanics of omnipotence and other god-stuff. If it's extra-universe then it's unknowable as well. Asking questions that require unknowable knowledge is meaningless.
User avatar #83815 to #83814 - cleverguy (08/11/2014) [-]
it's not unknowable. here's my logic: if God is a maximally great being, then he is a necessary being, which means that every possible universe requires God to create it. this means that for God to exist, it must be impossible for the universe to have come about in any way without God.

the fact that you say it is unknowable even proves my point sorta because that means infinite (essentially) possibilities and this, at the very least, makes it a bit silly for anyone to claim that they know God must exist
User avatar #83823 to #83815 - whatley (08/11/2014) [-]
The whole maximally great being thing doesn't make sense. Defining existence as a property of greatness is illogical.
What's the step between maximally great therefore necessary?
Also this is a mathematical misconception people make a lot, just because there is a chance for something to happen, and there are infinite chances for it to happen, doesn't mean it necessarily happens. Infinite non-repeating sequences do not necessarily have every instance of occurrence.

User avatar #83826 to #83823 - cleverguy (08/11/2014) [-]
its pretty simple, being necessary is greater than being unnecessary, and those are the only two options. its perfectly logical

and you're relating this to mathematical infinities for some reason when im not claiming anything about mathematical infinities, just that there is a pretty good chance that the universe is possible without God, since it is so unknown apparently
#83760 to #83749 - anonymous (08/10/2014) [-]
Infinities don't exist? Hmm. Why?
User avatar #83776 to #83760 - whatley (08/10/2014) [-]
Well once you start having infinities in science everything falls apart, and you get even more infinities. If you have infinite energy then you have infinite mass, therefore infinite mass, therefore infinite gravity, therefore infinite acceleration towards a point, therefore infinite speed, which means you have infinite momentum, infinite force. Infinities make more infinities because they make infinities of other things, and everything ends up as infinity.
Imagine it in a mathematical context. 2 x ∞= 3 x ∞. Therefore 2=3? Obviously not, that's why we don't use infinity in most maths. This is a horrendous oversimplification but size of infinities and explaining them is a massive complex topics and fuck attempting to explain it in a FJ comment.

The only type of infinities that do exist are ratio infinite where zero is involved. theoretical singularities have a volume of zero, but a finite mass, therefore their density is zero, as a number divided zero is infinity kind of, not really, it's undefined but undefined values exist even less than infinities in the real world so physicists say it's infinity. Same thing with the force of gravity reaching zero at a point, that point is infinitely far away. These are the only infinities that exist, not really true infinities, just zeros in disguise.

Fuck me, that ended up being a longer comment than I hoped it to be.
#83780 to #83776 - anonymous (08/10/2014) [-]
Extraordinary comment. A testament to the neuron machine we all carry around.
User avatar #83736 to #83721 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/09/2014) [-]
shiiiiieeeet idk
User avatar #83737 to #83736 - cleverguy (08/09/2014) [-]
let me put it this way:

is God, as a maximally great being, a necessary being? meaning there is no possible way any universe could exist without Him
#83727 to #83721 - hesekiel (08/09/2014) [-]
An uncreated universe may be possible.
User avatar #83729 to #83727 - cleverguy (08/09/2014) [-]
i agree, and that is the corollary that makes me think God doesn't exist
#83735 to #83729 - hesekiel (08/09/2014) [-]
A reasonable point, I give you that.
#83754 to #83713 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/10/2014) [-]
all those homo-blasphemy propaganda
all those homo-blasphemy propaganda
User avatar #83714 to #83713 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
I'm pretty sure god does not have a gender.
#83745 to #83714 - hesekiel (08/09/2014) [-]
There are many assumptions on that matter.
I personally find the idea of God being "transgender" (that He transcends gender)
#83715 to #83714 - youregaylol (08/09/2014) [-]
If you go by the abrahamic religions God created Adam in his image and Eve from Adam, so God is probably masculine.
#83720 to #83715 - hesekiel (08/09/2014) [-]
Yeah..... and in the first creation story he created both man and woman at the same time.
#83722 to #83720 - youregaylol (08/09/2014) [-]
It depends on what version of God you follow.
#83725 to #83722 - hesekiel (08/09/2014) [-]
That has nothing to do with denominations.
Also "created in His image" has nothing to do with a physical form since God is considered imageless.
#83728 to #83725 - youregaylol (08/09/2014) [-]
Of course it has something to do with denominations, the bible clearly says God created Adam first, whatever creation story that says different is apart of another denomination.

And your religion might consider God imageless, but once again, denominations. In his image means in his likeness in Christianity.
#83733 to #83728 - hesekiel (08/09/2014) [-]
First , if a religion afflicted with Christianity believes that God is embodied, it simply isn't christian. Because if so, it's idolism, and any abrahamic faith condemns idolism to the extreme.
Second, the creation stories are myths, they're not historical accounts, that's simply a fact.
#83734 to #83733 - youregaylol (08/09/2014) [-]
First, your definition of Christianity is not universal. Catholics have idols, you may not consider them christian but you are not infallible.

Second, I never said the creation stories were facts or historical accounts, I was just telling you what the creation stories entail.

Third, if you're going to argue with me argue with me, don't put words in my mouth.
#83738 to #83734 - hesekiel (08/09/2014) [-]
1. Noahide law: (which are the basis for all abrahamic laws)
The prohibition of idolatry.
My definition is therefore in fact universal.
2. You may told what the second creation says, BUT you disregard what the FIRST (and the one that's older) says.
3. A buh huh, I know, I know it equals a genocide. Oh, but wait! I never did. So stop whining.
#83739 to #83738 - youregaylol (08/09/2014) [-]
You don't know the definition of universal. The fact that idolatry is forbidden has no bearing on this because others might not agree that God being in the likeness in man is idolatry.

I have no idea what you're talking about in terms of first and second creation stories, you only have to believe in one. It still doesn't change the fact that I never said that creation stories were fact, which was your second "point".

And genocide? Wtf are you talking about? Is this you indone, it's really easy to identify you by your incomprehensible ramblings. Quit creating new accounts, it's weird and people can spot you easily.
#83740 to #83739 - hesekiel (08/09/2014) [-]
If you believe God has an image AKA physical form, that's idolism, simply as that. What I'm saying is that it doesn't matter what denomination you belong to, the 7 Noahide laws apply to everyone, christian, jews, muslims, even and especially (from the abrahamic viewpoint) to nonbelievers.
I'm talking about Genesis 1,1-2,3 and Genesis 2,4-2,25 those are 2 different accounts, the first one is the oldest (700 bc) and the second one is a bit younger (500 bc).
Wow, you're a bit slow, aren't you? Goddamn I'm mocking your whining by saying what I apparently did is equal to a genocide, it's really easy. And no, I'm not that guy.
#83741 to #83740 - youregaylol (08/09/2014) [-]
It's like I'm talking to a wall, this is a simple concept. People can read something and interpret it in a different way, saying "Simply as that" is not an argument. That's something an 8th grader would say.

People can follow whatever version they want, it's a denominational thing.

And I'm not convinced, your mannerisms are similar and you're a newfag. You say incomprehensible things and your mind jumps to weird conclusions, I've never seen anyone act like that here except indone, and maybe Omar. The genocide thing was a weird thing to say btw, just being honest.
#83742 to #83741 - hesekiel (08/09/2014) [-]
It's simple, because it's pretty clear, there's really nothing to not understand.
Idolism is forbidden. You can't misinterpret that. I'm pretty convinced that you are the wall here.
You can find those 2 texts in any version of the bible, if you disregard one text in any manner you're being hypocritical.
Maybe you're just to dense, have you thought about that?
#83743 to #83742 - youregaylol (08/09/2014) [-]
Ok, I think we're done. If I wanted to teach retards I would've become a special ed teacher.
#83744 to #83743 - hesekiel (08/09/2014) [-]
I'll give up. Man, you're really ignorant.
#83703 - anonymous (08/09/2014) [-]
Remember the times when this board only consisted of atheists and christians?
Those were good times.
User avatar #83705 to #83703 - teoragnar (08/09/2014) [-]
It's the same shit it was. Syrian coming here made it worse.
#83709 to #83705 - anonymous (08/09/2014) [-]
Lulz coming here had the same effect.
User avatar #83710 to #83709 - teoragnar (08/09/2014) [-]
He improved since when he came.
#83723 to #83710 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/09/2014) [-]
your only saying this cuz I'm fun to play with on steam.
#83711 to #83710 - anonymous (08/09/2014) [-]
Good one, m8.
User avatar #83712 to #83711 - teoragnar (08/09/2014) [-]
The difference between shitposters are the provoked and non-provoked.
#83697 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/09/2014) [-]
So Omar challenges the great stone cold huh?
So Omar challenges the great stone cold huh?
#83699 to #83697 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/09/2014) [-]
Get fucked kid.
Get fucked kid.
#83700 to #83699 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/09/2014) [-]
Now we celebrate
Now we celebrate
User avatar #83750 to #83700 - teoberry (08/10/2014) [-]
fuck it
>tfw you did get drunk off of that
#83751 to #83750 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/10/2014) [-]
>says I have never been drunk because face never felt numb
>got drunk

Pic one. You know what, don't bother I won't respond either way.
User avatar #83752 to #83751 - teoberry (08/10/2014) [-]
Where's pic two?
User avatar #83707 to #83700 - teoberry (08/09/2014) [-]
>tfw you'd get drunk off of that
0
#83698 to #83697 - lulzfornigeriagirl has deleted their comment [-]
#83662 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
>watches WWE
>sees 2 idiots beat each other
>not a single blood, tumor or anything
>seems legit
>goes to FJ
>post those faggots while mixing them with shitty comments
>???
>stupidity
User avatar #83702 to #83662 - teoragnar (08/09/2014) [-]
Don't you do the same thing with the happy merchant?
#83689 to #83662 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/09/2014) [-]
If you wanna see syrian's house get bombed give me a hell yeah
#83694 to #83689 - anonymous (08/09/2014) [-]
hell yeah!
#83693 to #83689 - draaaaiven (08/09/2014) [-]
hell yeah!
#83696 to #83693 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/09/2014) [-]
Boom knocked out cold.
Boom knocked out cold.
#83656 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/09/2014) [-]
Islam is fundamentally evil and corrupted in its core. Muslims claim that Muhammad was a moral character, one that we should learn from and carry on his teachings.

After all Muhammad went on a global conquest, spreading Islam on a sword instead of through love and preaching like other holy prophets. He killed by the thousands, raided caravans and therefore stole, slave traded women and abused them. He even married a 9-10 year old and married a girl he raised from birth not his dough . What a good person!

Built into Islam's core is the thirst for global domination like Muhammad tried to do. Fuck Islam.
#83701 to #83656 - anonymous (08/09/2014) [-]
Get a load of this faggot.
Now sure Mohammed really wasn't the nicest fellow but nether were people like Moses, David, Lot and many other biblical characters.
"Islam is fundamentally evil and corrupted in its core"
Now how did you came to that conclusion? I'd like to know, because Islam's core message is the exact same as the ones of Judaism and Christianity.
If you say so you sure must know what this message is and why it is so "fundamentally evil".
#83706 to #83701 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/09/2014) [-]
I derive that conclusion because of the teachings of Muhammad. You can't compare Moses, Jesus, Budha, ect to Muhammad for the exact reasons I mentioned. It's like you ignored everything I said.
#83708 to #83706 - anonymous (08/09/2014) [-]
top kek nigger
But yes I can, because both Christianity and Islam originate the teachings of Judaism, that's a fact, Mohammed didn't changed the core message.
0
#83704 to #83701 - teoragnar has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #83663 to #83656 - cognosceteipsum (08/09/2014) [-]
You now again?... You know what, syriassassin, let's beat him down with some fact.
Pillars of ISLAM. Not any corrupted version of Islam, but of ISLAM:
1. Zakat. You need to pay I think 20% of your money to the poor at least once a .. (syrian, fill me in, once a what?)
2. The pilgrimage. You have to go to Mekka at least once in your life.
3. Ramadan. Once a year, you need to celebrate Ramadan by fasting a little bit first then having a big feast to celebrate it. You are allowed to break the fast if you A) are sick B) pregnant
4. ??? Syrianassassin fill me in
5. ??? Masterboll fill me in. I know you've told me not to ask you, but it's easier and I think it's kind of like bonding so I thought that I would attempt once more to ask either way. I mean, Hell. If God wants me to suffer a little, then by God I will suffer
User avatar #83716 to #83663 - masterboll ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
stfu faggot

stop mentioning my name in your shitty debates
User avatar #83724 to #83716 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/09/2014) [-]
Here's one thing we can agree on.
User avatar #83730 to #83724 - masterboll ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
technically the "shitty debate" part included you aswell, since his comment was a reply to your bait
User avatar #83731 to #83730 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/09/2014) [-]
Oh don't worry bud, I hate you. Don't get the wrong image.
User avatar #83732 to #83731 - masterboll ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
k
#83672 to #83663 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/09/2014) [-]
Good job revenge the retard. You have:

1. Ignored everything I have said
2. Wrote a pile of shit
3. Tried to kiss the ass of the 2 muslims you know. Congrats, you wanna suck syrians dick too? I'm sure he's up for it.
#83677 to #83672 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
aren't you the one who talked about a pile of bullshit    
   
and saying others talked shit   
   
lol kike go get gassed
aren't you the one who talked about a pile of bullshit

and saying others talked shit

lol kike go get gassed
User avatar #83680 to #83677 - cognosceteipsum (08/09/2014) [-]
Don't.. call them kikes, it lowers the quality of your post. "When a man gazes into the abyss, the abyss gazes back at him."
Lulz is kinda brainwashed (inb4 abuse)
also teoberry rebornpooper will wake up one day hopefully to the reality of religions.
Know that I mention these not because I need help but just to watch you flail
User avatar #83726 to #83680 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/09/2014) [-]
Did you see who thumbed me up. Dumbass : ^ )
User avatar #83758 to #83726 - cognosceteipsum (08/10/2014) [-]
I was wrong then. I don't know.
#83684 to #83680 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/09/2014) [-]
>brainwashed
Says the guy on like 5 different medications because you went to a crazy hospital. Retard.

>mentions rebornpooper my nigga and thinking he'll even bother taking your side or even replying
>Needs back up
>Can't talk shit so needs others
Hypocrisy at it's finest.

You have still ignored everything I have wrote still.
User avatar #83690 to #83684 - cognosceteipsum (08/09/2014) [-]
He's a reactionist. He doesn't commit to anyone like that. Once he said "my butthole is more alpha than you" to you, remember that? I don't believe that was a joke, but whatever. Yeah so anyway, what you said is just islamophobic dung. Those are mere rumours that all atheists seem to believe, even your God Sam Harris, especially him.
#83692 to #83690 - lulzfornigeriagirl (08/09/2014) [-]
>takes everything seriously

Did you just ignore everything I said by calling it "rumors", really this is how you argue? And you think your intelligent? Are you fucking serious?

Also trying to represent me as an atheist again, childish attack when you know I'm not. Calling a man the God of a belief in the absence of God, damn you are still mentally retarded. Go back to the white building.
User avatar #83695 to #83692 - cognosceteipsum (08/09/2014) [-]
You seemed pretty serious to me, sorry if I was wrong.

No, I'm saying that I believe those are rumours not stating it as a fact, but can you fill in the last 4 5 pillars, then? Because if you don't have any knowledge of those, you are per definition not an authority when it comes to Islam.

Not childish attack, assumption. Well, I DID know you were an agnostic theist looking below so I'm sorry about that. I don't hate you, but you hate me. Sounds like the big J(e)a(s)k(u)o(s)b
#83687 to #83684 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
yes you are brainwashed
User avatar #83682 to #83680 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
i have my reason to call him kike

and he knows that well
#83664 to #83663 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
www.funnyjunk.com/religion/83604#83604

enjoy putting him under your own foot
#83660 to #83656 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
>Islam is fundamentally evil and corrupted in its core   
   
you mean judaism
>Islam is fundamentally evil and corrupted in its core

you mean judaism
#83659 to #83656 - xxhadesflamesxx (08/09/2014) [-]
don't forget what its done to europe in the name of not offending them
#83661 to #83659 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
dont forget what Europe did to itself in WW2
dont forget what Europe did to itself in WW2
#83666 to #83661 - xxhadesflamesxx (08/09/2014) [-]
there's a difference between forcing your beliefs and way of life on another people than internal fighting
User avatar #83667 to #83666 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
>we
>force

if this is true then israel would be no more. and there would be no more than 50 million christians living with us
#83668 to #83667 - xxhadesflamesxx (08/09/2014) [-]
never meant people succeeded I meant they are trying
User avatar #83671 to #83668 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
no one here forcing others to believe what we want

but the media programmed people to say we Force what we want

but nah bullshit
#83673 to #83671 - xxhadesflamesxx (08/09/2014) [-]
sure just blame the jews
User avatar #83675 to #83673 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
Zionists*

i believe in good kikes
#83676 to #83675 - xxhadesflamesxx (08/09/2014) [-]
well be an optimist if you want
#83652 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEhfqH8fapc&bpctr=1407600079&gl=US

The following content has been identified by the YouTube community as being potentially offensive or graphic. Viewer discretion is advised.

LOL WUT?
jewtube. go away i wanna enjoy being a nazi
go away jews. just go away.
#83654 to #83652 - anonymous (08/09/2014) [-]
>tekno remix
>tekno
#83655 to #83654 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
you forgot to log on again?
you forgot to log on again?
#83642 to #83640 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
i really love those videos.
User avatar #83643 to #83642 - walcorn (08/09/2014) [-]
you who is a speaker of sand nigger
give me a line or two of the lyrics

I need to find the song
#83644 to #83643 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
you think translation is a mother fucking game?   
plus they are speaking Arabic in accent i dont know.   
sorry yo, im a northern arab and not that from the south
you think translation is a mother fucking game?
plus they are speaking Arabic in accent i dont know.
sorry yo, im a northern arab and not that from the south
User avatar #83645 to #83644 - walcorn (08/09/2014) [-]
dammit nigger I need to find that song
User avatar #83646 to #83645 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
yeah, going after 1000 thousand of those terrorist videos to find it.

i fear i might return with bomb and shout Allah Akbar in front of you
#83633 - jonglio (08/09/2014) [-]
he loves u too
User avatar #83799 to #83633 - thebritishguy (08/11/2014) [-]
If someone threatened to hurt me if I didn't love them back then I would not want to develop a relationship with them.
User avatar #83636 to #83633 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
then why he will punish you for your sins?
User avatar #83637 to #83636 - jonglio (08/09/2014) [-]
to keep me from doin them

silly
User avatar #83638 to #83637 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
then he is not lovely and you are just lying to yourself
this blasphemy of yours wont work and god reply to it:

But the Jews and the Christians say, "We are the children of Allah and His beloved." Say, "Then why does He punish you for your sins?" Rather, you are human beings from among those He has created. He forgives whom He wills, and He punishes whom He wills. And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them, and to Him is the [final] destination.
Surat Al-Mā'idah (The Table Spread) verse 18
#83620 - anonymous (08/09/2014) [-]
"The worship of the one god means the denial of worship of man and things(idols)."
Discuss.
User avatar #83778 to #83620 - jokeface (08/10/2014) [-]
I think that's a fair claim. Who said this?
#83818 to #83778 - hesekiel (08/11/2014) [-]
Erich Fromm.
User avatar #83828 to #83818 - jokeface (08/11/2014) [-]
Grazie.
#83985 to #83828 - hesekiel (08/11/2014) [-]
From his book "You shall be as Gods" to be exact.
#83647 to #83620 - anonymous (08/09/2014) [-]
correct
#83624 to #83620 - syrianassassin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
to the people who worship men or devils or nature or idols.

how do you worship something that dies or have no power to protect itself?

this is why we Muslims worship Allah, he is one god and only. and he says quran says:
Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One,
Allah , the Eternal Refuge.
He neither begets nor is born,
Nor is there to Him any equivalent."

Surat Al-'Ikhlāş (The Sincerity)
--------------------------------
plus he have 99 unique names and attributes for Allah can be seen in this picture.
User avatar #83619 - drl (08/09/2014) [-]
WKUK God Says
#83621 to #83619 - anonymous (08/09/2014) [-]
Bullshit.
User avatar #83622 to #83621 - drl (08/09/2014) [-]
:3
 Friends (0)