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#78049 - lesnar (07/14/2014) [-]
"The more the universe seems comprehensible, the more it also seems pointless” - Steven Weinberg

The only meaning or purpose in life is subjective, it's not something that can be found through a detailed and objective study of nature. When people say they have meaning and purpose in their lives, it may be subjectively true to them, but that shouldn't be confused with true objective meaning.
#78050 to #78049 - dehumanizer ONLINE (07/14/2014) [-]
then why do you do this?
#78043 - lesnar (07/14/2014) [-]
The firing of neurons in the brain is as meaningful as water flowing over rocks. It's just physics.
#78042 - lesnar (07/14/2014) [-]
It's human arrogance driven by ego to believe "human existence" is anything other than just another occurrence in a much larger spectrum. Consciousness is a slow burning curse. We claim to be a higher form of life because we possess cognitive thought, yet we have absolutely no idea why we are actually here. So we create countless forms of abstraction to both give ourselves a false sense of purpose and to serve as a distraction from the fact "we have NO idea why we are here" Personally I would much rather be driven solely by instinct than by this fractured reason.
User avatar #78057 to #78042 - ecomp (07/14/2014) [-]
It doesn't matter what you would rather have happen. God made us, and we are here to serve.
#78122 to #78057 - anonymous (07/15/2014) [-]
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want
He makes me down to lie
Through pastures green He leadeth me the silent waters by.
With bright knives He releaseth my soul.
He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places.
He converteth me to lamb cutlets,
For lo, He hath great power, and great hunger.
When cometh the day we lowly ones...

-Roger Waters
#78044 to #78042 - dehumanizer ONLINE (07/14/2014) [-]
so in diffrent words...
#78045 to #78044 - lesnar (07/14/2014) [-]
This covers far more than just the pointlessness of God.
This covers far more than just the pointlessness of God.
#78038 - youregaylol (07/14/2014) [-]
You guys are getting slightly more annoying. I can already tell that some of you're neckbeards are growing back after your mudslime neck scalping.

If you don't behave I might summon syrian to digestive end product on everything again.
User avatar #78048 to #78038 - cleverguy (07/14/2014) [-]
>one guy starts digestive end productposting
>your all neckbeards
#78039 to #78038 - youregaylol (07/14/2014) [-]
fagmin stop reversing you're and your its difficult to force you'reself to use the wrong one.
#78040 to #78039 - youregaylol (07/14/2014) [-]
yourself intense bodylove
#78034 - lesnar has deleted their comment [-]
#78020 - anonymous (07/13/2014) [-]
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User avatar #78059 to #78020 - ecomp (07/14/2014) [-]
Lol thats why there is heaven, dumb female amusement-system.
User avatar #78032 to #78020 - marinepenguin (07/13/2014) [-]
You are meaningless.
#78014 - anonymous (07/13/2014) [-]
Post YFW you realized that life is pointless, and that all subjective meaning (opinions) amount to the same thing. Nothing.
#78029 to #78014 - youregaylol (07/13/2014) [-]
Does nihilism allow you to have hard on for Brock Lesnar?
#78030 to #78029 - anonymous (07/13/2014) [-]
There is nothing objectively wrong with it. So, yes.
#78031 to #78030 - youregaylol (07/13/2014) [-]
Still fabulous and sparkly tho.
#78033 to #78031 - anonymous (07/13/2014) [-]
Damn right it's fabulous and sparkly.
User avatar #78013 - teoragnar (07/13/2014) [-]
This board lacks ignosticism.
User avatar #78027 to #78013 - marinepenguin (07/13/2014) [-]
It's hard to talk about that, since it's literally a term describing how we don't know digestive end product about God, his characteristics, or even any characteristics about religion and faith related stuff in general.
User avatar #78007 - cognosceteipsum (07/13/2014) [-]
Strange. I experienced something very strange just now while in a state of meditation. I experienced some sort of trance. Possibly it was just some scientific thing but I don't rule out the possibility for other experiences. Either way - it was like a very loud sound Nd it's very hard to describe. What do you guys make of this experience? Every single one if you I'm asking.
User avatar #78115 to #78007 - acemcgunner (07/15/2014) [-]
god's love is trying to touch you're heart keep a open soul for he shall house in it..
User avatar #78064 to #78007 - ecomp (07/14/2014) [-]
You were being called by our true saviour, Jesus H. Christ.
User avatar #78289 to #78074 - ecomp (07/15/2014) [-]
#78052 to #78007 - anonymous (07/14/2014) [-]
"Possibly it was just some scientific thing"
What does this even mean?
User avatar #78054 to #78052 - cognosceteipsum (07/14/2014) [-]
Possibly the explanation is in science, possibly in mysticism or something
#78078 to #78054 - anonymous (07/14/2014) [-]
The explanation to why food cooks is in science, but you wouldn't call spaghetti making a scientific thing.
The explanation of why you feel pain when burn is also in science but if you put you're finger in a stove it is not a scientific thing when you feel pain.
It is obtuse to approach things from the rear end when the simple explanation is on the foreground.
#78121 to #78078 - anonymous (07/15/2014) [-]
Actually, making spaghetti is in a way science. Science is what we know based know from emperical (and to some grade rational) study and practice. Science literally means ''knowledge''. We wouldn't have known how to make the optimal meal out of some wheat meat balls and tomato sauce without trying different things out, or finding it in a cook book. Therefore we have gathered the knowledge, therefore science, and are now eexercising that knowledge, therefore exercising science. In this case the field of gastronomy.

Therefore OP's trance is a scientific thing, if he isn't lying. It might have been triggered by lots of different factos. The same thing can't be said about religion or astrology because there is no emperical evidence for it. If we get actual proof beyound reasonable doubt, it becomes science. Even if there might be no supernatural beings, the experience itself was however science because we know(or at least let us assume that we know) it happened.
User avatar #78079 to #78078 - cognosceteipsum (07/14/2014) [-]
Arguing semantics, are we? I'm not interested. Bye.
User avatar #78008 to #78007 - feelythefeel ONLINE (07/13/2014) [-]
Tell you're neighbour to shut up.
User avatar #77996 - cleverguy (07/13/2014) [-]
in deist philosophy, what happens when you die?

does nothing happen? or do deists believe in heaven and hell?
User avatar #78067 to #77996 - ecomp (07/14/2014) [-]
Deists are worse than athiests cuz they rely solely on intuition.
User avatar #78098 to #78067 - cleverguy (07/14/2014) [-]
what's wrong with intuition? what makes it different than faith?
User avatar #78288 to #78098 - ecomp (07/15/2014) [-]
Faith is based on facts, dumbass
User avatar #78371 to #78288 - cleverguy (07/16/2014) [-]
by definition, it's not
User avatar #78372 to #78371 - ecomp (07/16/2014) [-]
Faith in Christianity is*

allow me to correct myself
User avatar #78373 to #78372 - cleverguy (07/16/2014) [-]
then it's not faith
User avatar #78374 to #78373 - ecomp (07/16/2014) [-]
User avatar #78375 to #78374 - cleverguy (07/16/2014) [-]
you just called it faith though

and what facts? because anything in the bible is fallible, so biblical accounts don't count as facts
User avatar #78376 to #78375 - ecomp (07/16/2014) [-]
>The word of God is infalliable
>"The bible is falliable"
>The bible is the word of God


also, you called it faith first.
User avatar #78377 to #78376 - cleverguy (07/16/2014) [-]
saying the bible is the word of God and so it is infallible is circular reasoning, since you get that belief from the bible
User avatar #78378 to #78377 - ecomp (07/16/2014) [-]
Which was written by God... You really aren't understanding this are you?
User avatar #78382 to #78378 - cleverguy (07/16/2014) [-]
so God literally wrote the words on paper?
User avatar #78383 to #78382 - ecomp (07/16/2014) [-]
It was inspired by god, just like evolution was inspired by Darwin
User avatar #78384 to #78383 - cleverguy (07/16/2014) [-]
how do you know it was inspired by god?
User avatar #78385 to #78384 - ecomp (07/16/2014) [-]
User avatar #78386 to #78385 - cleverguy (07/16/2014) [-]
who you know about through the bible, so circular reasoning again
User avatar #78387 to #78386 - ecomp (07/16/2014) [-]
Who was a REAL PERSON with other references of his life aside from the bible.
User avatar #78389 to #78387 - cleverguy (07/16/2014) [-]
ok, but jesus being a real person doesn't make him the son of god or the bible divinely inspired, just like chuck norris jokes don't make chuck norris a superhuman even though chuck norris is a real person
User avatar #81308 to #78389 - ecomp (07/29/2014) [-]
No, I've been making out well-supported FACTS, while you've been making non-supported FARCES. You even have the audacity to completely ignore the comments, and respond in ignorance.
User avatar #81306 to #78389 - ecomp (07/29/2014) [-]
What a clever way for a cleverguy to escape making himself look bad in front of internet strangers. "Oh, this is boring, hahaha, I'm still smart right, hahaha!". You look like a retard, and ditching an argument mid-conversation is weak. Have fun in hell, athiest.
User avatar #81307 to #81306 - cleverguy (07/29/2014) [-]
the conversation is over, all you've done is throw around ad-homs and say you're right
User avatar #81304 to #78389 - ecomp (07/29/2014) [-]
Except they wouldn't, dumbfuck. They'd all point to God. Just like in the bible, as those events ACTUALLY HAPPENED, with RECORDED HISTORY. It has 10x more evidence than evolution, and yet you athiests still believe in that.
User avatar #81305 to #81304 - cleverguy (07/29/2014) [-]
hahaha those events all actually happened except for the ones that you don't think happened, right?

god you're so mad that you're going off toipc again, im not gonna respond anymore, this is getting boring
User avatar #81302 to #78389 - ecomp (07/29/2014) [-]
All you've shown is that you like to ignore evidence.
User avatar #81303 to #81302 - cleverguy (07/29/2014) [-]
im not ignoring it, im saying it's not credible. know the difference

like in your murder analogy
it would be like if all those witnesses said the same thing, but DNA testing at the scenes of the crimes all pointed to someone completely different
User avatar #81300 to #78389 - ecomp (07/29/2014) [-]
I have nothing else to say because I have made my point. If only you could understand what I'm saying, we'd be done here.
User avatar #81301 to #81300 - cleverguy (07/29/2014) [-]
yeah and you have nothing to support your point, which i've shown
User avatar #81244 to #78389 - ecomp (07/28/2014) [-]
Or I'm not guillible like you.

Praise Dawkins amiright?
User avatar #81294 to #81244 - cleverguy (07/29/2014) [-]
i have not mentioned dawkins once

you literally have nothing else to say
User avatar #81114 to #78389 - ecomp (07/27/2014) [-]
You are so stubborn
User avatar #81215 to #81114 - cleverguy (07/28/2014) [-]
im just not gullible like you
User avatar #81081 to #78389 - ecomp (07/27/2014) [-]
I know that I'm 100% correct on the issue. It takes a fool to completely ignore what has been said.
User avatar #81112 to #81081 - cleverguy (07/27/2014) [-]
just keep telling yourself that
User avatar #80775 to #78389 - ecomp (07/26/2014) [-]
User avatar #80803 to #80775 - cleverguy (07/27/2014) [-]
User avatar #80715 to #78389 - ecomp (07/26/2014) [-]
says the athiest
User avatar #80717 to #80715 - cleverguy (07/26/2014) [-]
lol you've resorted to that, you know you're wrong
User avatar #80713 to #78389 - ecomp (07/26/2014) [-]
I explicitly said mexican
User avatar #80714 to #80713 - cleverguy (07/26/2014) [-]
now you're just being silly
User avatar #80711 to #78389 - ecomp (07/26/2014) [-]
But if there was no mexican food, then it had to be God.
User avatar #80712 to #80711 - cleverguy (07/26/2014) [-]
it could be any food
User avatar #80709 to #78389 - ecomp (07/26/2014) [-]
That's mexican food. Often mistaken for god, but it really just means that you're about to have the worst bathroom experience since you peed in your mom's mouth while she was changing your diaper as a baby
User avatar #80710 to #80709 - cleverguy (07/26/2014) [-]
well then i guess these experiences can be explained by stomach troubles
User avatar #80707 to #78389 - ecomp (07/26/2014) [-]
An all powerful presence
User avatar #80708 to #80707 - cleverguy (07/26/2014) [-]
i feel an all powerful presence when i have to take a shit
User avatar #80705 to #78389 - ecomp (07/26/2014) [-]
Eyeballs, dumbass
User avatar #80706 to #80705 - cleverguy (07/26/2014) [-]
how do they know what they're seeing is God?
User avatar #80569 to #78389 - ecomp (07/25/2014) [-]
God is there = he is speaking = not made up
User avatar #80704 to #80569 - cleverguy (07/26/2014) [-]
how do they know God is there?
User avatar #80433 to #78389 - ecomp (07/25/2014) [-]
Because God is there.
User avatar #80467 to #80433 - cleverguy (07/25/2014) [-]
that didn't answer my question at all
User avatar #79975 to #78389 - ecomp (07/24/2014) [-]
User avatar #79976 to #79975 - cleverguy (07/24/2014) [-]
and what words do these people hear that makes you so sure theyre hearing God and not just imagining things?
User avatar #79973 to #78389 - ecomp (07/24/2014) [-]
User avatar #79974 to #79973 - cleverguy (07/24/2014) [-]
so you're saying during an NDE, people literally hear God say words to them?
User avatar #79971 to #78389 - ecomp (07/24/2014) [-]
Basic sensory inputs
User avatar #79972 to #79971 - cleverguy (07/24/2014) [-]
can you be more specific?
User avatar #79969 to #78389 - ecomp (07/24/2014) [-]
Same way I know that I'm talking to a retard.
User avatar #79970 to #79969 - cleverguy (07/24/2014) [-]
how's that?
User avatar #79967 to #78389 - ecomp (07/24/2014) [-]
He is LITERALLY talking to you.

God Here. Talking. To you.
User avatar #79968 to #79967 - cleverguy (07/24/2014) [-]
but how do youknow that's what's happening? that's all im asking
User avatar #79965 to #78389 - ecomp (07/24/2014) [-]
Because God is literally talking to you
User avatar #79966 to #79965 - cleverguy (07/24/2014) [-]
how do you know thats whats happening?
User avatar #79963 to #78389 - ecomp (07/24/2014) [-]
>Can't comprehend this simple thought.

NDE is weird and doesn't make sense
Person passes it off as nothing
Actually was God
User avatar #79964 to #79963 - cleverguy (07/24/2014) [-]
how do you know any of it means God?
User avatar #79761 to #78389 - ecomp (07/23/2014) [-]
I am grouping them together like you would a work of art with it's artist.

You obviously did not read my last comment.
User avatar #79956 to #79761 - cleverguy (07/24/2014) [-]
lol that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard

and i did. you literally said that not experiencing God is still experiencing god
User avatar #79729 to #78389 - ecomp (07/23/2014) [-]
Obviosuly not, but similar occurances happen all the time. God communicating to us is still God communicating to us.

Near Death Experiences are just God's way of trying to comminicate to us as we are nearing death. Not everybody sees it as God because it's different than their interpretation of God.
User avatar #79731 to #79729 - cleverguy (07/23/2014) [-]
you're interpreting different events to be the same events, is what you're telling me

that's your opinion, but there is no evidence for that, especially since a lot of NDEs contradict your statement
User avatar #79727 to #78389 - ecomp (07/23/2014) [-]
Same experiences at a different time don't make them different.

Except when religious experiences happen the people who have are sober and sane, while others who have similar, non-religious experiences are either intoxicated or insane, "cleverguy".
User avatar #79728 to #79727 - cleverguy (07/23/2014) [-]
so when you "saw God" you saw some water turn into wine?

this is not true. most of these experiences are NDEs
User avatar #79724 to #78389 - ecomp (07/23/2014) [-]
Jesus's miracles ARE witnessing God, dumbfuck.

They're meth-heads.
User avatar #79726 to #79724 - cleverguy (07/23/2014) [-]
i mean the miracles outlined in the bible as separate from present day religious experiences

and theres your special pleading again

"only the witnesses that support my point of view are valid accounts"
this is your argument and it has been your argument this entire time
User avatar #79722 to #78389 - ecomp (07/23/2014) [-]
I'm not changing subjects, I'm using analogies to explain a simple point to a simple person.

Here's another one.
A mass murderer kills 100 seperate people, leaving 1 witness at each crime. Each one identifies the same murderer.

While I regret to use a murderer as a metaphor for god, it's like this.

Murderer = God
Shooting = Experience
Witness = Witness of Religious Experience

Get it?
User avatar #79723 to #79722 - cleverguy (07/23/2014) [-]
you're changing the subject from jesus' miracles to witnessing God. choose one

and the reason that is not a good analogy is because it goes in assuming any experience is a valid source of information AND that every experience involves God. there are plenty of people who have NDEs who don't see God. what does that mean?
User avatar #79720 to #78389 - ecomp (07/23/2014) [-]
And I've explained that just like in legal matters, with enough eye-witnesses, it comes down to being true without a doubt. If someone shot someone in the middle of a crowded mall and everybody around saw, (the video cameras were damaged) and everybody was able to pinpoint the same person, you would consider it true without a doubt. But when it comes to God, apparently that's not good enough for you.
User avatar #79721 to #79720 - cleverguy (07/23/2014) [-]
you still have to take it with a grain of salt

also thats not a good analogy because, again, we're talking about jesus' miracles, stop changing the subject. and also these miracles were isolated incidents and so are "religious experiences"
they don't happen in front of crowds who can all tell exactly what is going on
User avatar #79715 to #78389 - ecomp (07/23/2014) [-]
No. Obviously you are not going to take the evidence seriously, and just push it aside. I will engage in further discussion with you, but I will not repeat myself.
User avatar #79718 to #79715 - cleverguy (07/23/2014) [-]
i read through it again, the only evidence i could find that you mentioned was witness testimony and i shared those links and you changed the subject and said you saw God, which is basically the same as using witness testimony as evidence, but even less reliable.

so what else do you have? your "eyewitness testimony" is not going to cut it and i've explained why so im not just "pushing it aside". i considered it and said why it doesn't work, but you didn't present anything further
User avatar #79713 to #78389 - ecomp (07/23/2014) [-]
Lol, just look below you. If you refuse to listen, I can't tell you anything.
User avatar #79714 to #79713 - cleverguy (07/23/2014) [-]
just tell me again, its a mess down there
User avatar #79711 to #78389 - ecomp (07/23/2014) [-]
"I never argued using science" That's for sure.

You never listened.
o-)>_< (-o <-you
User avatar #79712 to #79711 - cleverguy (07/23/2014) [-]
haha ok tell me one more time, concisely what evidence there is that what the bible says is true. and remember i already showed you why the fact that it is supposedly witness testimony doesn't actually make it good evidence, but if you need to be reminded of why, here are the links



User avatar #79709 to #78389 - ecomp (07/23/2014) [-]
Exactly what I said.
User avatar #79710 to #79709 - cleverguy (07/23/2014) [-]
i never argued using "science"

i just said your evidence was bad. you never showed me how your evidence was good
User avatar #79706 to #78389 - ecomp (07/23/2014) [-]
"I'm done talking to you"

A perfect closing sentence to make you feel like you've won an argument while losing tragically. Happens everytime. Sorry that I couldn't be bothered by your loose attempts at "science". I'm sure I took quite a toll on your ego.
User avatar #79707 to #79706 - cleverguy (07/23/2014) [-]
what science?
User avatar #79704 to #78389 - ecomp (07/23/2014) [-]
You're not even making any arguments at this point. You're obviously not a jew.

Same can be said for you, clevergoy.
User avatar #79705 to #79704 - cleverguy (07/23/2014) [-]
you justify your beliefs with unreliable evidence, special pleading fallacies, and appeals to majority.

you're arguments defeat themselves because you have nothing to argue with and i've explained that, so you resort to ad hominem and say you've won.

im done talking to you. either you're uneducated or you're a troll, but you're really goddam stupid
User avatar #79700 to #78389 - ecomp (07/23/2014) [-]
You're retarded.

No. They think that rocks can talk. Christians believe that humans were created in order to serve a supreme being in the afterlife. And you think that humans are just smart animals, which are just breathing rocks.
User avatar #79701 to #79700 - cleverguy (07/23/2014) [-]
lol im jewish dude, don't try to tell me what i believe

and lol how are you so ignorant?
User avatar #79697 to #78389 - ecomp (07/23/2014) [-]
Actually they do, they just think that Jesus is a prophet of Judaism, not Christianity, and that he isn't God.

Many Eastern countries are also in fact turning to Christianity, with China having the highest growth rate out of any other nation in the world. They don't have any books, nor any other evidence other than the fact that they somehow think that animals and rocks are more important than humans. It's essentially the same thing as praying to a milk jug.
User avatar #79698 to #79697 - cleverguy (07/23/2014) [-]
jews don't believe jesus was a prophet

lol that doesn't mean they've *seen* god, they're just buying into the same things you are. theres no difference between your religion and theirs except yours has a book with little to no credibility
User avatar #79686 to #78389 - ecomp (07/23/2014) [-]
Judaism is still Abrahamic, and Eastern religions are animalistic hokey-pokey.
User avatar #79687 to #79686 - cleverguy (07/23/2014) [-]
lol we're talking about jesus performing miracles so the jews don't support your claims.

also your comment on eastern religions demonstrates your special pleading fallacy
User avatar #79629 to #78389 - ecomp (07/22/2014) [-]
>2.5 billion
>next highest is 2 billion
>that one is based off of Christianity
User avatar #79684 to #79629 - cleverguy (07/23/2014) [-]
so? you're ignoring jews and every eastern religion
User avatar #79545 to #78389 - ecomp (07/22/2014) [-]
When there are so many people in the bible who have witnessed it, it is 100% unlikely that every single one of them is lying.
User avatar #79546 to #79545 - cleverguy (07/22/2014) [-]
lol no it's not

think of literally every other religion that you don't think is true
User avatar #79543 to #78389 - ecomp (07/22/2014) [-]
I said that you don't have to believe that I've seen God. I've still won in every other topic during the argument.
User avatar #79544 to #79543 - cleverguy (07/22/2014) [-]
no you didn't, you completely dropped it when i showed you why witness testimony wasn't good evidence
User avatar #79541 to #78389 - ecomp (07/22/2014) [-]
No we haven't. We've determined that we are both quite stubborn in each of our views and that trying to convince either of us to the opposite point of view is hopeless.

At least I can rest easy knowing that I'll spend the afterlife in heaven.
User avatar #79542 to #79541 - cleverguy (07/22/2014) [-]
you were trying to prove to me that there is sufficient evidence that the things outlined in the bible are true and you've admitted that i don't, in fact, have a good reason to believe have a good reason to believe it, which means it is not good enough evidence
User avatar #79537 to #78389 - ecomp (07/22/2014) [-]
I guess you don't.
User avatar #79538 to #79537 - cleverguy (07/22/2014) [-]
so we're done here

we've determined you dont have sufficient evidence to prove anything you're saying to be true
User avatar #79533 to #78389 - ecomp (07/22/2014) [-]
I didn't.
User avatar #79534 to #79533 - cleverguy (07/22/2014) [-]
i have no reason to believe you
User avatar #79531 to #78389 - ecomp (07/22/2014) [-]
then it's divinely inspired
User avatar #79532 to #79531 - cleverguy (07/22/2014) [-]
or you made it up
User avatar #79529 to #78389 - ecomp (07/22/2014) [-]
i dont do drugs
User avatar #79506 to #78389 - ecomp (07/22/2014) [-]
I have.
What do you have to say to that?
User avatar #79503 to #78389 - ecomp (07/22/2014) [-]
User avatar #79499 to #78389 - ecomp (07/22/2014) [-]
But when you have 100s of thousands of people seeing God, it gets to a point where it's practically undeniable.
User avatar #79504 to #79499 - cleverguy (07/22/2014) [-]
we're talking about jesus performing miracles here

also believing in God =/= seeing God.

no one has ever *seen* god
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User avatar #79495 to #78389 - ecomp (07/22/2014) [-]
Eyewitness accounts are very reliable. If they weren't, they would be discounted in legal cases.
User avatar #79482 to #78389 - ecomp (07/22/2014) [-]
But the original accounts are still reliable.

Then we have settled this point.

Except that is exactly how it is.
User avatar #79493 to #79482 - cleverguy (07/22/2014) [-]
no they aren't. eyewitness accounts are not good evidence especially when the witnesses are ignorant and have a conflict of interest
User avatar #79477 to #78389 - ecomp (07/22/2014) [-]
But it more than likely is.

BUT AGENDAS!!!!!!!!!!

Except we have the original copies. It's like telephone except we have a tape recorder for every person that we can listen to at any time.
User avatar #79480 to #79477 - cleverguy (07/22/2014) [-]
not really because of the reasons i said

im just sayin

except you don't
User avatar #79470 to #78389 - ecomp (07/22/2014) [-]
What you think you see is what you see.

Photoshop omg

Explain, because I disagree.
User avatar #79475 to #79470 - cleverguy (07/22/2014) [-]
might not be what is actually there

i've worked in a research lab and i didn't photoshop anything

the more a piece of information is tranferred around, the more it is distorted. ever play telephone?
User avatar #79466 to #78389 - ecomp (07/22/2014) [-]
They wrote down what they saw. We can tell what it is now based on our understanding. If you can't you're retarded.

Includes scientists, but we say that they look at things with an unbiased opinion.

They wrote it down soon after. Those writings were added to the bible after much time.
User avatar #79468 to #79466 - cleverguy (07/22/2014) [-]
they wrote down what they THOUGHT they saw

they have better evidence. such as pictures

same problem
User avatar #79404 to #78389 - ecomp (07/21/2014) [-]
Which we can now interpret based on their observations.

Everybody has an agenda.

User avatar #79463 to #79404 - cleverguy (07/22/2014) [-]
no we can't


User avatar #79306 to #78389 - ecomp (07/21/2014) [-]
And how are these witnesses falliable?
User avatar #79307 to #79306 - cleverguy (07/21/2014) [-]
they were ignorant of science so they might not have interpreted things they were seeing correctly

they might have falsified things because they had an agenda

they wrote what they saw a long time after they saw it
User avatar #79304 to #78389 - ecomp (07/21/2014) [-]
We've been over this. There is evidence.
User avatar #79305 to #79304 - cleverguy (07/21/2014) [-]
witness accounts are not evidence because the witnesses are fallible
User avatar #79301 to #78389 - ecomp (07/21/2014) [-]
Not every book in the Bible is falliable. That's like saying that because 1 scientific theory is falliable, every scientific theory is falliable.
User avatar #79303 to #79301 - cleverguy (07/21/2014) [-]
its a book that preaches fact without evidence. that makes it fallible
User avatar #79299 to #78389 - ecomp (07/21/2014) [-]
It's more like this scenario

There is 1 scientific laboratory.
There are 50 scientists. Each has 1 theory. 25 are true, 25 are false.
Each of them submit a theory to the board of science.
25 make it through the board, 15 are true, 10 are false, but you don't know which ones are true or not. These theories are all put into 1 book.
Over the years, new advances are made that prove a few incorrect.
Instead of just eliminating the entire laboratory, you should just eliminate the ones that are proven incorrect, right?

But since this book has been out for 2000 years, many people refuse for the book to be rewritten, so the people that accept the new findings simply read only the ones that are not incorrect.
User avatar #79300 to #79299 - cleverguy (07/21/2014) [-]
this is going in assuming any of it is true

since we don't know if the accounts are true or not for sure (not to say that they are outright lies, but that they could be misunderstood events) the fact that any of the things in the book are false makes other things in the book less credible.

if you take the book as fallible, when certain things can be shown to be false, it makes other things less likely to be true, especially when there is no actual evidence.
User avatar #79297 to #78389 - ecomp (07/21/2014) [-]
There are different books inside the bible. Genesis =/= Leviticus =/= Mathews =/= etc.

As I said before, these books were voted on. Some would make it in incorrectly just like some scientific theories are accepted when they are incorrect, and some would be shoved aside like some correct scientific theories are.
User avatar #79298 to #79297 - cleverguy (07/21/2014) [-]
but its all part of the bible.

its like if a scientific labratory published a paper that said grass was blue, never retracted it, and then said they've proven that man can fly if he tries hard enough after doing many experiments and didn't publish any pictures. would you believe it?
User avatar #79295 to #78389 - ecomp (07/21/2014) [-]
Which is in Genesis, which is another book. Bible is like a collection with many books (with different authors) inside. I don't believe in the genesis as per the bible, because it has been proven incorrect.

It's likely that Genesis was not even inspired by God, but was rather a quick fix made in the early stages of Christianity/Judaism to explain the question "Where do we come from?", because God did not provide that answer.
User avatar #79296 to #79295 - cleverguy (07/21/2014) [-]
so you believe in some parts of the bible but not others? how does that make it objectively credible?
User avatar #79293 to #78389 - ecomp (07/21/2014) [-]
Name 1 example
User avatar #79294 to #79293 - cleverguy (07/21/2014) [-]
the bible says the earth came before the sun
User avatar #79291 to #78389 - ecomp (07/21/2014) [-]
There is other evidence for the miracles. Example; Eye-witness accounts of miracles from real people that wrote it in a book.
User avatar #79292 to #79291 - cleverguy (07/21/2014) [-]
when that book also contains many things that aren't true, it becomes a non-credible source as a historical account
User avatar #79203 to #78389 - ecomp (07/20/2014) [-]
evidence of previous animals =/= evidence of evolution

this is how stupid you sound right now
User avatar #79285 to #79203 - cleverguy (07/21/2014) [-]
lol well your statement is true, while the evidence of previous animals is a necessary piece of the puzzle, it doesn't in itself prove evolution. theres other evidence that is there.

just as while jesus existing is essential, its not the only evidence you need to show that he was divine
User avatar #78761 to #78389 - ecomp (07/19/2014) [-]
User avatar #78763 to #78761 - cleverguy (07/19/2014) [-]
evidence for jesus =/= evidence for miracles
User avatar #78518 to #78389 - ecomp (07/16/2014) [-]
There is plenty of evidence for the things that have happened in the bible. Seriously it's everywhere.
User avatar #78647 to #78518 - cleverguy (07/18/2014) [-]
in the bible
User avatar #78398 to #78389 - ecomp (07/16/2014) [-]
I'm just spouting the same bullshit you keep spouting at me. Of course the assembly didn't go in thinking they were true. They investigated and thoroughly rooted out any errors, just as a scientist would. You just refuse to believe that the Bible has any credibility because you hate religion.
User avatar #78401 to #78398 - cleverguy (07/16/2014) [-]
it doesn't have credibility because we have no support for these ancient events that the bible claims happened except for the bible itself. chronological contradictions within the bible don't help this matter
User avatar #78396 to #78389 - ecomp (07/16/2014) [-]
Just like the people who decide what scientific theories are acceptable are scientists OMG! They go in with the presumption that the theories are true anf the things they weed out are things that they don't consider important anymore.

Your not fooling anyone.
User avatar #78397 to #78396 - cleverguy (07/16/2014) [-]
"They go in with the presumption that the theories are true"

do you know anything? im going to stop talking to you because im convinced you're a troll now
User avatar #78394 to #78389 - ecomp (07/16/2014) [-]
There were countless witnesses involved in the bible, and countless authors, and the books were carefully studied and the ones which were deemed false were removed from the bible. There was literally an assembly of people whose jobs where to weed out false books.
User avatar #78395 to #78394 - cleverguy (07/16/2014) [-]
so much circular reasoning omg

the people who decide the canon of the bible are christians! they go in with the presumption that the accounts are true and the things they weed out are things they don't consider important.

you're not fooling anyone
User avatar #78392 to #78389 - ecomp (07/16/2014) [-]
So I suppose eye-witness accounts of ancient cities are also falliable, right? So does that mean humans just popped into existance ~200 years ago (Or whatever is reasonably "infalliable") because the eye witness accounts prior to that are too old?

Events in the bible are eye-witness, guidance and holy laws are divine. I know you aren't THAT stupid. You're just grasping at straws now.
User avatar #78393 to #78392 - cleverguy (07/16/2014) [-]
ever heard of ruins? also records of history aren't records of supernatural happenings and there is way more support for them besides one book full of alleged eyewitness accounts

you also have to consider whether or not the eyewitness was trustworthy and the time between the witnessing of the event and the time of writing
User avatar #78390 to #78389 - ecomp (07/16/2014) [-]
The bible isn't a joke, it's a religious text based on eye-witness accounts ya moron
User avatar #78391 to #78390 - cleverguy (07/16/2014) [-]
eye witness accounts or godly inspiration? get your stories straight

also "eyewitness accounts" that are over 2000 years old are pretty fallible
User avatar #78003 to #77996 - teoragnar (07/13/2014) [-]
Since Deism is something made up by atheists that didn't wanted to be called atheists (mostly because of the church), nothing happens, no hell, no heaven, nothing.
As a side note, Deism shouldn't be confused with unspecific theism or natural theism.
Deism itself is a unrevealed, unnatural, specified theism and therefore a completely unfounded assumption.
User avatar #78006 to #78003 - nigeltheoutlaw (07/13/2014) [-]
>I don't like it so it's atheism
User avatar #78012 to #78006 - teoragnar (07/13/2014) [-]
That's a fact, nigga. Deism has its origin in the phase of enlightenment a period where atheism gained popularity. Deism's atheistic mindset is pretty clear.
User avatar #78035 to #78012 - nigeltheoutlaw (07/14/2014) [-]
Deism has a deity. Atheism does not. Ergo, atheism can not be deism. Not only that, but it is false that it arose from Atheism; it arose from people raised as Christians who still believed in one god, but not all of the attached biblical dogma.


A really fast google search could have told you that.
User avatar #78004 to #78003 - cleverguy (07/13/2014) [-]
well to be fair, technically every religion was made up by people who were at one point atheists and every religion is an unfounded assumption because their based on faith, which is, by definition, unfounded

im not really sure why your attacking deism???
User avatar #78011 to #78004 - teoragnar (07/13/2014) [-]
"well to be fair, technically every religion was made up by people who were at one point atheists and every religion is an unfounded assumption because their based on faith, which is, by definition, unfounded"
The again, I divided the world's religion into 2 sections:
1) Natural religions, faiths that have developed over time from superstitions and idolistic behavior and can't be traced back to its origin (paganism and other tribal religions)
2) Revealed religions, faiths that have been revealed through God, gods or enlightenment, credibility isn't important but they certainly have their foundation, let be scripture or oral transmission (Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhaism)
Deism on the other hand has no foundation, revelation and is unnatural and is therefore easily rejecetable.
Why wouldn't I attack deism? It's heretic.
User avatar #78047 to #78011 - cleverguy (07/14/2014) [-]
i didn't say they didn't have a foundation, but that doesn't mean they aren't based on faith, which makes them no more credible than deism
User avatar #78023 to #78011 - marinepenguin (07/13/2014) [-]
Deism has it's origins from modern religions. Deism has just evolved and split from them, and because of that those who associate with deism tend to have many beliefs characteristic of modern religions, like monotheism. Most deists separate from their churches and became deists because they didn't agree with any churches messages or specific beliefs, so they worship and believe in their own way.
User avatar #77999 to #77996 - cognosceteipsum (07/13/2014) [-]
I personally have some idea of reincarnation. It's a hierarchy. Life. We start off as ameboa and are on our way to work ourselves up to God level
User avatar #78001 to #77999 - cleverguy (07/13/2014) [-]
any reason for that?
User avatar #78005 to #78001 - cognosceteipsum (07/13/2014) [-]
Truth contest, so no, not really. May as well be bull. No idea.
User avatar #78046 to #78005 - cleverguy (07/14/2014) [-]
well i guess it's a cool idea at that
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User avatar #78009 to #77992 - feelythefeel ONLINE (07/13/2014) [-]
It's not my fault the guy came on too strong.
User avatar #77991 - satoshileex (07/13/2014) [-]
This has probably been asked but I haven't seen it. Those of you that don't like/care for homosexuals and transgender people why do you have a problem with them? Another question, do you have a problem with the fabulous and sparkly marriage stuff going on in America? (that is that each individual states decides whether or not they want fabulous and sparkly marriage)
User avatar #78105 to #77991 - jokeface (07/14/2014) [-]
This is a Part 2 to my comment since I ran out of room in the first one.

Regarding fabulous and sparkly marriage, I can't support it. But it's not because I have any spite towards fabulous and sparkly people. I just feel that it would be hypocritical for me to get behind a cause that I know is sinful, even if I'm not the one committing the sin. Plus, Jesus denounced those who assisted others in sinning, and I believe legalizing fabulous and sparkly marriage would show a sense of approval or encouragement for that lifestyle, which is counterproductive to the Christian cause. Personally, I wouldn't feel threatened or bothered by what people are doing behind closed doors, but I do have an obligation to honor God's code, so while I won't actively go out with picket signs or petitions trying to bring down the fabulous and sparkly marriage cause, I'm not going to support it either. I'll just stay out of it completely.
User avatar #78104 to #77991 - jokeface (07/14/2014) [-]
I was raised Baptist but have since broadened my label to simply be Christian, without any specific sub-denomination. And my view of homosexuality is based very simply on the several verses that say that homosexual acts are sinful. Now, let me expand on that, because I don't want you jumping to conclusions about the kind of person I am.

The most important commandment, as stated by Jesus, is to love God with all you're heart, mind, body, and soul. The second most important is to love you're neighbor as you'reself. And part of that means understanding the distinction between sinner and sin. A lot of Christians over many years have set a bad precedent, where they equate being fabulous and sparkly to being sub-human. They can't separate the sin from the sinner as Jesus told us to do. So they go around judging fabulous and sparkly people and condemning them and just making our faith look really bad. But here's the thing. Jesus knew that man could repent, and be saved from his sin. It's like a stain on a white shirt. Why throw the shirt away when there's a way to clean the stain and make the shirt look new again? That's how Jesus wants us to see sinners. We shouldn't judge them for being fabulous and sparkly, we should recognize that their stain doesn't have to be permanent, and that they can be saved if they repent. But the key is love, not hate.

It's also crucial to realize that we all have stains. No one is any better or any worse than any other human being. And that's caused a lot of confusion for some people because they bring up things like Hitler and Gandhi and terrorists and philanthropists, and what they can't grasp is the fact that God loves all these people equally, and in His eyes, all of them have sinned equally against Him. We're all sinners and we all have the same chance of being saved.

So to answer you're question, I don't hate anyone, regardless of their sexuality, their beliefs, their sins, etc. I see people who have lost their way, and I feel hope for them, that they return to God one day.
User avatar #78109 to #78104 - satoshileex (07/14/2014) [-]
So far you're responds is what I think aligns the most with my views. And I must say you stated you're thoughts out very well.
User avatar #78110 to #78109 - jokeface (07/14/2014) [-]
#78090 to #77991 - anonymous (07/14/2014) [-]
As a Catholic, we believe that one of the purposes of marriage is being open to the idea of producing children (even contraception is a sin), and fabulous and sparkly marriages cannot do this.
#78036 to #77991 - youregaylol (07/14/2014) [-]
The act of homosexual intercourse isn't the main issue. When worst comes to worst it's impossible to control what people do behind closed doors. The main issue is that it's going beyond closed doors in a really destructive way. The so called "fabulous and sparkly community" is being lead by degenerates who are trying to make disgusting behaviors and mannerisms "acceptable". Liberals always cry "Waaahh, why arent muh fabulous and sparklys accepted" when they continue to support behavior that is known as not being accepted.

They continue to cry persecution when their stated purpose is to expose our children to promiscuity and deviancy, or as they call it "reach out to a new generation". Just look at a "pride parade" or a protest, almost all of them are clad in pink half naked with swear words painted on their bodies, and they wonder why the public is apprehensive of them?

In addition the marriage debate is a farce. The left continues to insist that marriage is a meaningless social construct while at the same time stressing how important it is for fabulous and sparklys to be able to do it. If they wanted legal equality then they could simply push for civil unions which would happen in a second. And since they think that marriage is pointless and subject to drastic changes then why couldn't fabulous and sparklys just call each other "married" without the government. If the government decided that my parents weren't married they would still be married.

The whole "issue" is bulldigestive end product.
User avatar #78041 to #78036 - coloredfolks (07/14/2014) [-]
honestly, I have been trying to come up with a comprehensive argument like this one for years. thank you for putting it so eloquently lol!
User avatar #78037 to #78036 - satoshileex (07/14/2014) [-]
I thought I was more left but I definitely agree with most of what you just posted. I made the above post because I was curious as to what people thought about the topic.
#77994 to #77991 - aesis (07/13/2014) [-]
I'm a fabulous and sparkly guy and I'm friends with a few homophobes, so let me share what I know and what I think about it.

Generally people don't dislike fabulous and sparklys because they stick their dicks in poopers, they dislike them for their image and I'm inclined to agree. When you think of fabulous and sparklys you usually think of the stereotype of rainbows, femininity and promiscuity, well stereotypes are there for a reason. A hell of a lot of the LGBT(BBQ whatever digestive end product they add to it now) fit the stereotype. They're usually annoying, out loud and proud faggots or they're promiscuous and seem to think that's something to be proud about. Any fabulous and sparkly person with self-respect generally keep it to themselves and don't let their sexuality define their personality, which means the more vocal group (I'd say minority but I don't even know if they would be the minority) gets the spotlight and seem to have become the representation of the fabulous and sparkly community.

So from that there are a few reasons why someone might disagree with fabulous and sparkly marriage:
- They're going to be short lived and pointless thus ruining the point of a marriage
- The bible says it's wrong
- A person doesn't like fabulous and sparkly people for what they present themselves as and don't think they deserve the same rights
- A person thinks a civil partnership is enough and don't think a big deal should be made of marriage

Of course there are arguments to all these and what not, but that's what I've picked up from the friends I have who think that way. I'd like for there to be fabulous and sparkly marriage, I just think the way we are going about it is all wrong. People are being bullied into supporting it, being labelled bigots, homophobes etc if they have anything negative say and some places even being boycotted. It's dumb, pointless and a waste of time.
User avatar #77988 - lulzfornigeriagirl (07/13/2014) [-]
Does anyone here have any text/memorabilia from back in the Poncake days. Unfortunately all my was lost including the bible chapters.
User avatar #77982 - cognosceteipsum (07/13/2014) [-]
What is the godhead? Carl Jung talked about the godhead and I don't quite understand
User avatar #77995 to #77982 - teoragnar (07/13/2014) [-]
In what book?
User avatar #77997 to #77995 - cognosceteipsum (07/13/2014) [-]
Joooooo interview actually
User avatar #77998 to #77997 - teoragnar (07/13/2014) [-]
User avatar #78000 to #77998 - cognosceteipsum (07/13/2014) [-]
Sorry,I'm tired
User avatar #78002 to #78000 - teoragnar (07/13/2014) [-]
Oh okay, I ask you later.
#77974 - anonymous (07/13/2014) [-]
Why bring more people into life knowing that it's unfair, meaningless, and empty? Why not leave the unborn in oblivion where they're better off. After all its where you're going anyway. When you die you're not even going to remember ANYTHING you learned here. Why not cut to the chase & either kill you'reself/ keep unborn humans out of the meaningless dream that is life?
User avatar #78022 to #77974 - marinepenguin (07/13/2014) [-]
Because that's just dumb.
User avatar #77990 to #77974 - teoberry (07/13/2014) [-]
Because not everyone's a nihilist faggot and most people realize how fun life is?
User avatar #77983 to #77974 - cognosceteipsum (07/13/2014) [-]
thewillow is this you?
User avatar #77993 to #77983 - thewillow (07/13/2014) [-]
Nah, this one ain't me.
#77980 to #77974 - ipostcp (07/13/2014) [-]
I want them to experience the joys of life.
#77975 to #77974 - youregaylol (07/13/2014) [-]
Go to bed charlie it will be better tomorrow.
Go to bed charlie it will be better tomorrow.
#77976 to #77975 - anonymous (07/13/2014) [-]
I don't wanna.
#77979 to #77977 - anonymous (07/13/2014) [-]
#77973 - anonymous (07/13/2014) [-]
If you have a billion minds assigning meaning to a particular thing, which mind, thus assigned meaning, is right? Perhaps NONE of them are, and that thing is & always has been & will be MEANINGLESS.
User avatar #78010 to #77973 - feelythefeel ONLINE (07/13/2014) [-]
Thus, existentialism. Assigning subjective meaning to that which lacks objective meaning since sapience.
#78015 to #78010 - anonymous (07/13/2014) [-]
It's still meaningless.
User avatar #78016 to #78015 - feelythefeel ONLINE (07/13/2014) [-]
Not subjectively. That's all we have, so it's good enough.
#78017 to #78016 - anonymous (07/13/2014) [-]
Subjective meaning is worthless.
User avatar #78018 to #78017 - feelythefeel ONLINE (07/13/2014) [-]
#78019 to #78018 - anonymous (07/13/2014) [-]
Because its value would depend on who you were asking.

They can't all be right, can they?
User avatar #78021 to #78019 - feelythefeel ONLINE (07/13/2014) [-]
Something only has value if you give it value. If everybody thought that gold was worthless, gold would be worthless. Subjective meaning only has value and purpose if you give it that value and purpose. But if you do, it'll be real enough that what it means to someone else won't matter.

You only have one life to live, probably less than a hundred years out of eternity. Why not spend it doing things you can only do now, as opposed to things you'll be doing (Or rather, not doing) for the rest of it?
#78024 to #78021 - anonymous (07/13/2014) [-]
Why bother? When you die, you're memories are erased. It is as if you never experienced all of those things.
User avatar #78025 to #78024 - feelythefeel ONLINE (07/13/2014) [-]
They aren't erased. They're passed on.
#78026 to #78025 - anonymous (07/13/2014) [-]
The memories will die when the people they are passed onto die.
User avatar #78028 to #78026 - feelythefeel ONLINE (07/13/2014) [-]
you're memory is assimilated into their lifelong experiences to form part of the memories they pass down. We're all connected, conglomerations of different memories of the same past.
User avatar #77965 - goochmaster (07/13/2014) [-]

User avatar #78069 to #77965 - ecomp (07/14/2014) [-]
Goochmaster, go intense bodylove you'reself. This is my board.
#77967 to #77965 - alekksandar (07/13/2014) [-]
how do you confuse this board with something as fabulous and sparkly as that
User avatar #77972 to #77967 - goochmaster (07/13/2014) [-]
I'm on mobile, and since religion and Pokemon are right next to each other I misclicked. It's what happens when you have fat, shameful sausage fingers like I do.
#77978 to #77972 - anonymous (07/13/2014) [-]
>Explaining you'reself to a scalefag

That's even more shameful than you're fingers.
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User avatar #77958 - alekksandar (07/12/2014) [-]

User avatar #77968 to #77958 - feelythefeel ONLINE (07/13/2014) [-]
Sometimes I wish I was retarded so I could stop thinking about things. How is it? Is it worth the lobotomy?
User avatar #77971 to #77968 - teoragnar (07/13/2014) [-]
If you ram a long needle right next to you're eye into you're skull you apparently can lobotomize you'reself, or go blind.
User avatar #77970 to #77968 - alekksandar (07/13/2014) [-]
Definitely worth it. You don't know what people think about you and you don't care about anything. You live in you're own little, twisted world, full of flowers and happiness. You have never heard about pain, you have never known what wars are about. You just sit there, and look at the ceiling and drool.
User avatar #77960 to #77958 - teoragnar (07/12/2014) [-]
Did you know that combining Christianity and nationalism is probably the most heretic act you could commit.
#77961 to #77960 - alekksandar (07/13/2014) [-]
I see syrianassassin has converted you to islam...

however, there is a cure.
User avatar #77962 to #77961 - teoragnar (07/13/2014) [-]
Allahu akbar, infidel!
you're committing idolism tho.
User avatar #77963 to #77962 - alekksandar (07/13/2014) [-]
>not getting a joke
#77956 - syrianassassin (07/12/2014) [-]
i think i will leave this board for some time.

enjoy you're own shitpost here
User avatar #77989 to #77956 - lulzfornigeriagirl (07/13/2014) [-]
............... finally..........

Go choke on sand you disgusting scum of a person (I'm serious though, anyone who wishes sharia law upon the whole globe is someone I would not care if died)
User avatar #77984 to #77956 - cognosceteipsum (07/13/2014) [-]
#77985 to #77984 - masterboll ONLINE (07/13/2014) [-]
also, you're "I" is stuck
User avatar #77986 to #77985 - cognosceteipsum (07/13/2014) [-]
hurf durf
User avatar #77981 to #77956 - masterboll ONLINE (07/13/2014) [-]
>implying that there are any other muslims on here other than me
#77959 to #77956 - youregaylol (07/12/2014) [-]
You can come back when the neckbeards start getting unbearable again.

In the meantime gtfo.
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