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How do you know what was written down in the Bible is true?
This is my FJ account. I've pretty much quit FJ, I'm mostly on reddit now.
I made the "religionisweird" account to debate about religion, seeing as reddit is 90% atheist biased, and there is no real debate going on.
I made the "religionisweird" account to debate about religion, seeing as reddit is 90% atheist biased, and there is no real debate going on.
think from an unbiased perspective for once (even though it isn't possible for humans) and see how different religions have different moral codes and different laws. Not everyone believes in your religion, little people want to follow your laws.
"According to you and your book, one that is not universally accepted or even universally respected. You're applying your own religion and code to everyone else."
"According to you and your book, one that is not universally accepted or even universally respected. You're applying your own religion and code to everyone else."
you have different moral laws then others. Of course there are things we can all agree on such as stealing is wrong but you (and ur religion too) are a homophobic and not allot of people agree with that. Theirs a line to draw.
Anyone can do what they want aslong as it doesn't endanger or decrease the rights of others.
Anyone can do what they want aslong as it doesn't endanger or decrease the rights of others.
but its legal.
""If a majority of people excepted bestiality, i bet we would have it legal. "
no because it goes against God's will""
You said because its against gods will it wont be legal but homosexuality is so wtf are you rambling about?
""If a majority of people excepted bestiality, i bet we would have it legal. "
no because it goes against God's will""
You said because its against gods will it wont be legal but homosexuality is so wtf are you rambling about?
Strongly religious people: Wants everyone to think what they think, wants the whole world to apply to their beliefs
Strongly non-religious people: Don't mind if people practice their religion, just don't want it to affect science, political decisions, or their life.
Strongly non-religious people: Don't mind if people practice their religion, just don't want it to affect science, political decisions, or their life.
Non-religious people believe that Earth is the past place humans will reside, and so they try to idealize it and make it as liberated and free-spirited as possible. Religious people believe in an afterlife which is a bigger deal than this life because it's eternal. Therefore we don't care about making everybody happy so much as we try to give them a better afterlife, since the afterlife is more crucial.
Just curious, many Christians here believe that god is immaterial, then how did he create humanity in his image?
Spiritual and logical image. The ability to think and love and make choices. Of course we're a heavily limited version of this compared to Him. But we're closer to Him than animals because animals pretty much just act on instinct and don't share the same kind of intelligence with us (unless you count apes and dolphins, but they still don't apply their intelligence in a way that significantly separates them from normal animals).
Guys I just wanna say, today appears to be one great day for debates. I mean holy cow, everyone's on here, hardly any spam, and almost every post has long, intense discussions. Well done. I'm proud of us.
Our Pasta, who "Arghh" in the colander, Swallowed be thy sauce. Thy serving come, Thy food be yum, On forks as they are on spoons. Give us our daily sauce, And forgive our mess, As we forgive those who mess against us. And lead us not into hell, But deliver us some pizza, For thine is the noodles, the sauce and the meatballs. R'Amen
I disagree. The fundamental purpose of government is to protect the people and their rights, by means of law enforcement, national defense and the justice system. There may be other, secondary purposes as well, such as promoting the general welfare. But the government is NOT a parent or a pastor whose job it is to teach us to behave properly and push one moral code or another.
Two very opposite genres that hardly relate to each other but okay.
Don't like rock or metal?
this? www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYKYk0XlFK4
Don't like rock or metal?
this? www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYKYk0XlFK4
Just for reference, churches aren't forced to marry anyone, they can turn away any couple they wish without hesitation. So it would be the same with gay couples.
Just in care that's what you were getting at, otherwise don't mind me.
Just in care that's what you were getting at, otherwise don't mind me.
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N. Korean citizen (04/01/2013) [-]
Then how about replying saying you were wrong, that way you acknowledge your mistake and the fact that you won't make it again. Then people can also see the mistake you made and avoid making it too. Oh that's right, because you want to sweep it under the rug and hope no one sees it.
I block because I don't want people seeing my profile and thumbing down everything I post, which has happened before. If you disagree with my opinions, fine, thumb that post down, but don't be the fuckhead who thumbs down 100 unrelated posts about Pokemon and crap that has nothing to do with my religious beliefs.
As I said above, I was out.
Why would I post as anon for the whole argument only to come out later? If my goal was to avoid red thumbs, I wouldn't have posted as me at all.
As I said above, I was out.
Why would I post as anon for the whole argument only to come out later? If my goal was to avoid red thumbs, I wouldn't have posted as me at all.
Ah. Well, I blocked you as well because I very much so do not wish to communicate with you on a frequent basis, no offense.
Also because of the thumb thing. I was covering my bases, really. But frankly, you do seem to be an up-front person, and while I disagree with what you believe and all, you don't present yourself in the self-righteous and absolute way zlamous does.
Also because of the thumb thing. I was covering my bases, really. But frankly, you do seem to be an up-front person, and while I disagree with what you believe and all, you don't present yourself in the self-righteous and absolute way zlamous does.
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N. Korean citizen (04/01/2013) [-]
"then there's being a bitch who can't take red thumbs"
The only thing that can make me laugh out loud on this site are the people who take virtual thumbs seriously. I mean, seriously, who says shit like this with a straight face? Holy shit, thanks for a good laugh though. Sorry I couldn't relate to that last joke though, I stopped being a kid a long time ago.
The only thing that can make me laugh out loud on this site are the people who take virtual thumbs seriously. I mean, seriously, who says shit like this with a straight face? Holy shit, thanks for a good laugh though. Sorry I couldn't relate to that last joke though, I stopped being a kid a long time ago.
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N. Korean citizen (04/01/2013) [-]
Because accounts mean something right? Because collecting meaningless thumbs is important right? That's the only difference between me and you. And if that's what you're worried about then that's honestly sad. Even using the word "cowardly" in that context was hilariously pathetic.
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weakinthecenterr (04/01/2013) [-]
which fork do you think god would be? the salad fork? the big fork? one of the other 6?
Edgy = butt hurt?
I get the overused part but seriously, you get way to mad too fast dude. I posted that pic, and the bread one because they are all funny, even the one about Christianity.
I already had this conversation with thebritshguy, #20164
www.funnyjunk.com/religion/20164#20164
I get the overused part but seriously, you get way to mad too fast dude. I posted that pic, and the bread one because they are all funny, even the one about Christianity.
I already had this conversation with thebritshguy, #20164
www.funnyjunk.com/religion/20164#20164
It's easy to type in caps lock to emphasize a point and not be particularly angry.
I was actually tabbing in and out of a TF2 game in friends while typing it, so I was in a pretty happy mood anyway.
I was actually tabbing in and out of a TF2 game in friends while typing it, so I was in a pretty happy mood anyway.
If he is seriously using that as an argument, he's even more idiotic then any of the theist's that you call retarded.
It was nothing more than an insulting paragraph, that was meant to be funny. I actually find it quite funny, which is why a posted the one about atheism and bread. they are funny, but not something you take seriously.
It was nothing more than an insulting paragraph, that was meant to be funny. I actually find it quite funny, which is why a posted the one about atheism and bread. they are funny, but not something you take seriously.
That is not what i believe, that is an over dramatized, simplified lie, of what i believe. if siad, without any true meaning behind it, just as a joke, ya it's funny.
you are just showing how much of a bigot you are towards this, and just trying to justify him simply you have a corresponding view point.
you are just showing how much of a bigot you are towards this, and just trying to justify him simply you have a corresponding view point.
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darkrighteosnight (04/01/2013) [-]
"multi-dimensional flying Jew that came back from the dead so that it can give your spirit eternal life if you eat his flesh and drink his blood..." And so on and so fourth.
If i honestly have to explain each detail to you then fine. God is not multi-denominational, he makes up time and space. We donot drink his blood to go to heaven, we are not being saved from him, nor do we suffer from the curse of a rib women.
If i honestly have to explain each detail to you then fine. God is not multi-denominational, he makes up time and space. We donot drink his blood to go to heaven, we are not being saved from him, nor do we suffer from the curse of a rib women.
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thebritishguy (04/01/2013) [-]
why don't you research things before you criticise them? theories on the origin of life: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
<= fossil record
<= fossil record
none of those are transitional
please explain how a bunch of amino acids could have assembled themselves in multi-layered, algorithmic patterns within a phospholipid bilayer. DNA isnt just a random molecule, it carries information. information is immaterial so it couldnt have been produced by material causes
please explain how a bunch of amino acids could have assembled themselves in multi-layered, algorithmic patterns within a phospholipid bilayer. DNA isnt just a random molecule, it carries information. information is immaterial so it couldnt have been produced by material causes
www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/People/Is_the_Universe_finite_or_infinite_An_interview_with_Joseph_Silk
It's not even known by scientists but your most likely right.
It's not even known by scientists but your most likely right.
OH I'M FUCKING SORRY
I wasn't aware that you, an insignificant spec in the TINY amount of the universe we can observe is in any position to know SHIT about the universe. Shut the fuck up, you have no idea what you're talking about.
I wasn't aware that you, an insignificant spec in the TINY amount of the universe we can observe is in any position to know SHIT about the universe. Shut the fuck up, you have no idea what you're talking about.
By any reasonable definition, increases in information have been observed to evolve. We have observed the evolution of:
*increased genetic variety in a population (Lenski 1995; Lenski et al. 1991)
*increased genetic material (Alves et al. 2001; Brown et al. 1998; Hughes and Friedman 2003; Lynch and Conery 2000; Ohta 2003)
*novel genetic material (Knox et al. 1996; Park et al. 1996)
*novel genetically-regulated abilities (Prijambada et al. 1995)
2. A mechanism that is likely to be particularly common for adding information is gene duplication, in which a long stretch of DNA is copied, followed by point mutations that change one or both of the copies. Genetic sequencing has revealed several instances in which this is likely the origin of some proteins. For example:
*Two enzymes in the histidine biosynthesis pathway that are barrel-shaped, structural and sequence evidence suggests, were formed via gene duplication and fusion of two half-barrel ancestors (Lang et al. 2000).
*RNASE1, a gene for a pancreatic enzyme, was duplicated, and in langur monkeys one of the copies mutated into RNASE1B, which works better in the more acidic small intestine of the langur. (Zhang et al. 2002)
*Yeast was put in a medium with very little sugar. After 450 generations, hexose transport genes had duplicated several times, and some of the duplicated versions had mutated further. (Brown et al. 1998)
The biological literature is full of additional examples. A PubMed search (at www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query… on "gene duplication" gives more than 3000 references.
*increased genetic variety in a population (Lenski 1995; Lenski et al. 1991)
*increased genetic material (Alves et al. 2001; Brown et al. 1998; Hughes and Friedman 2003; Lynch and Conery 2000; Ohta 2003)
*novel genetic material (Knox et al. 1996; Park et al. 1996)
*novel genetically-regulated abilities (Prijambada et al. 1995)
2. A mechanism that is likely to be particularly common for adding information is gene duplication, in which a long stretch of DNA is copied, followed by point mutations that change one or both of the copies. Genetic sequencing has revealed several instances in which this is likely the origin of some proteins. For example:
*Two enzymes in the histidine biosynthesis pathway that are barrel-shaped, structural and sequence evidence suggests, were formed via gene duplication and fusion of two half-barrel ancestors (Lang et al. 2000).
*RNASE1, a gene for a pancreatic enzyme, was duplicated, and in langur monkeys one of the copies mutated into RNASE1B, which works better in the more acidic small intestine of the langur. (Zhang et al. 2002)
*Yeast was put in a medium with very little sugar. After 450 generations, hexose transport genes had duplicated several times, and some of the duplicated versions had mutated further. (Brown et al. 1998)
The biological literature is full of additional examples. A PubMed search (at www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query… on "gene duplication" gives more than 3000 references.
"increased genetic variety in a population"
can be expressed by pre-existing information
"increased genetic material"
mutations can only delete base pairs or insert old ones in new places. this does not constitute new information
"A mechanism that is likely to be particularly common for adding information is gene duplication, in which a long stretch of DNA is copied, followed by point mutations that change one or both of the copies. "
duplication does not constitute new info. point mutations substitute a single base pair, which invariable corrupts information
can be expressed by pre-existing information
"increased genetic material"
mutations can only delete base pairs or insert old ones in new places. this does not constitute new information
"A mechanism that is likely to be particularly common for adding information is gene duplication, in which a long stretch of DNA is copied, followed by point mutations that change one or both of the copies. "
duplication does not constitute new info. point mutations substitute a single base pair, which invariable corrupts information
Never mind the fact that atheists have been opressed and executed the last 2000 years.
"OH NO SOMEONE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN MY GOD HELP THEY'RE OPRESSING ME"
"I NO LONGER GET SPECIAL RIGHTS FOR BEING RELIGIOUS WHAT WILL I DO?"
"OH NO SOMEONE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN MY GOD HELP THEY'RE OPRESSING ME"
"I NO LONGER GET SPECIAL RIGHTS FOR BEING RELIGIOUS WHAT WILL I DO?"
aah man if I had a penny for every single time I had a leaflet on atheism, or if I had someone knocking on my door telling me "there is no God", how about all those times I have seen atheists in the street singing or school plays about atheist matters...I would have zero pennies
im not being funny, i liked that name. Thats all that matters, its an inside joke anyhows but i coudnt care anyways. Dont get butcheese over humor.
I constantly see hitler/holocaust memes, i dont get offended and start saying shit.
I constantly see hitler/holocaust memes, i dont get offended and start saying shit.
it is based on over whelming evidence, do you think Dawin just went "I reckon we cam from frogs!"
compare this to creation which isn't even supported by any evidence at all and says dinosaurs and humans were wandering around with each other
compare this to creation which isn't even supported by any evidence at all and says dinosaurs and humans were wandering around with each other
the original myth isn't but there are many other claims about Mithras and such
www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_X1hdCUqf8
www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_X1hdCUqf8
in referance to Mithras this page says - "This son of a god born of a virgin, was so commonly spread in those days that Philo of Alexandria (30 BCE - 45 CE), warned against this widespread superstitious belief in unions between male gods and human females. The offspring’s are known as demigods."
http://jdstone.org/cr/files/mithraschristianity.html
http://jdstone.org/cr/files/mithraschristianity.html
I know, but it is irrelevant to my point. Once again you are making assumptions, I am aware Stalin was an atheist but the comparison is still just as valid. You better be ready for my rap sucker I've already wrote it prepare for the real storm of shit lol
rap about atheism
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcunfNS31JA
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcunfNS31JA
there are a lot of Europeans that are into that, probably because religion is pretty big in many of those places, but there are a few Americans, Greydon Square, Rational Warrior, Young Inc,
this is the only british one I know of: www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4CJL_IQz7Q
this is the only british one I know of: www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4CJL_IQz7Q
Hey guys, I just came here to see if there was a shitstorm brewing. From the looks of it, there is.
the following is screwing around, plz don't get offended
I now declare myself the prophet of the Religion board.
"I came here to see if a shitstorm was brewing.
~My good people, I arrived in these plentiful lands in search of any man, woman, or creature that would threaten the peaceful state these lands find themselves in.
"From the looks of it, there is."
~I bring you a warning, honourable people of FJudea. From the dark horizon rises a true monster of a thread, one that will divide /religion/ and leave a trail of hatred and adversity in its path. Heed my warning, o ye' of faith and ye' of little, for this may be your last peaceful hour on this board.
As you can see, I, Klaes the Wanderer, have accurately predicted the future. I walk through these lands with our lord DJ 4DM1N beside me, and he warns me of the evil we must face. Rally behind me, and we shall face the ignorant comments of those who insult others with pride, as DJ 4DM1N is on our side.
Perhaps someone should put that in a book? ;D
I'm joking, of course, I just feel like this board could use a little bit more of light-hearted pissing around. That aside, I hope you all have a wonderful week, regardless of your religious beliefs or lack thereof.
I now declare myself the prophet of the Religion board.
"I came here to see if a shitstorm was brewing.
~My good people, I arrived in these plentiful lands in search of any man, woman, or creature that would threaten the peaceful state these lands find themselves in.
"From the looks of it, there is."
~I bring you a warning, honourable people of FJudea. From the dark horizon rises a true monster of a thread, one that will divide /religion/ and leave a trail of hatred and adversity in its path. Heed my warning, o ye' of faith and ye' of little, for this may be your last peaceful hour on this board.
As you can see, I, Klaes the Wanderer, have accurately predicted the future. I walk through these lands with our lord DJ 4DM1N beside me, and he warns me of the evil we must face. Rally behind me, and we shall face the ignorant comments of those who insult others with pride, as DJ 4DM1N is on our side.
Perhaps someone should put that in a book? ;D
I'm joking, of course, I just feel like this board could use a little bit more of light-hearted pissing around. That aside, I hope you all have a wonderful week, regardless of your religious beliefs or lack thereof.
And the same bunch of theists using the same arguments they always use, zlamous.
I don't understand though, you seem like a decently intelligent guy(or girl) as many of the theists and atheists on this board do. So why do you all partake in a argument that is based largely on belief, and is practically impossible to prove or disprove? Isn't it nicer just to agree to disagree?
I don't understand though, you seem like a decently intelligent guy(or girl) as many of the theists and atheists on this board do. So why do you all partake in a argument that is based largely on belief, and is practically impossible to prove or disprove? Isn't it nicer just to agree to disagree?
"And the same bunch of theists using the same arguments they always use"
not really. our arguments are a lot more diverse. atheists just use the 'problem of evil' argument over and over
" So why do you all partake in a argument that is based largely on belief, and is practically impossible to prove or disprove?"
We're trying to determine which belief is more rational. I believe that God is provable and a lot atheists believe that He is disprovable
not really. our arguments are a lot more diverse. atheists just use the 'problem of evil' argument over and over
" So why do you all partake in a argument that is based largely on belief, and is practically impossible to prove or disprove?"
We're trying to determine which belief is more rational. I believe that God is provable and a lot atheists believe that He is disprovable
there is no solid proof
No, the bible is not proof.
No, things said by people 2000 years ago is not proof.
No, your personal beliefs on the matter are not proof
No, lack of proof of the opposite is not proof.
No, the bible is not proof.
No, things said by people 2000 years ago is not proof.
No, your personal beliefs on the matter are not proof
No, lack of proof of the opposite is not proof.
"our arguments are a lot more diverse"
Perhaps, perhaps not. Many times both sides in this have just shoved the same thing in under a new packaging, which is not by any means a more diverse argument.
As far as debating the rationality of it, that's fair enough I suppose. I personally believe that the existence of God is not really provable or disprovable, and as the burden of proof lies on those making the claims it is the theists job to prove it.
However; this is simply my opinion. I can agree to respect your choice to believe he exists, or that it is provable that he exists, just as I expect you to respect my choice to do the opposite.
Perhaps, perhaps not. Many times both sides in this have just shoved the same thing in under a new packaging, which is not by any means a more diverse argument.
As far as debating the rationality of it, that's fair enough I suppose. I personally believe that the existence of God is not really provable or disprovable, and as the burden of proof lies on those making the claims it is the theists job to prove it.
However; this is simply my opinion. I can agree to respect your choice to believe he exists, or that it is provable that he exists, just as I expect you to respect my choice to do the opposite.
notice how no two Christians have used the same argument on this board. i'll admit to reusing the kalam cosmological argument a lot tho.
i believe that the kalam cosmological argument and the ontological argument prove the existence of God beyond a reasonable doubt. in order to disprove God someone would have to demonstrate that the concept of God is logically incoherent/contradictory
if an atheist claims that his position is more reasonable than mine he also has a burden of proof
i believe that the kalam cosmological argument and the ontological argument prove the existence of God beyond a reasonable doubt. in order to disprove God someone would have to demonstrate that the concept of God is logically incoherent/contradictory
if an atheist claims that his position is more reasonable than mine he also has a burden of proof
The pages on here can get much longer than the other boards. This place seems to have a unique trait among them, which is having many lengthy discussions but it's otherwise slow. The more active boards tend to have much shorter conversations.
Oh absolutely, I don't doubt that. I think that can be attributed to the fact that most boards cover a wide range of vague topics, while this board has very niche conversations that usually occupy the page for a day or 2. Not technically making this board "slow" just the main conversations become "sticky"s of sorts and those who join in, join in and others simply observe.
"STILL NOT A FUCKING RELIGION"
"thank goodness you got past the "EVIL ATHEIST RATIONAL THINKING" and went back to believeing everything your book tells you"
"it's all bullshit. All these 'contradictions'? Complete bullshit."
"BE WARNED THERE IS A VERY FUCKED UP COCK ON THE FIRST PAGE OF IMAGES"
Aye, this board certainly is quite civil. It's practically bleeding civility, kindness, and understanding.
"thank goodness you got past the "EVIL ATHEIST RATIONAL THINKING" and went back to believeing everything your book tells you"
"it's all bullshit. All these 'contradictions'? Complete bullshit."
"BE WARNED THERE IS A VERY FUCKED UP COCK ON THE FIRST PAGE OF IMAGES"
Aye, this board certainly is quite civil. It's practically bleeding civility, kindness, and understanding.
The large amount of name calling found on this board, which I did not bother to quote, is sure enough proof that this is no civil discussion. One need only scroll up to see that in the replies to this comment alone, one group as a whole is being branded idiotic and people are generalizing.
I never said shitstorms were a terrible thing, but this is undeniably the shitstorm board.
I never said shitstorms were a terrible thing, but this is undeniably the shitstorm board.
just because some uses caps lock doesn't mean they are mad or screaming at the computer. Also using insults doesn't make a conversation civil, as long the whole conversation isn't "i fuc**** hate you motherfuc****". I for one get a laugh and enjoy having conversations with christians.
Aye, but as soon as people resort to name calling, it is by definition a logical fallacy. If I , for example, said "Hur durr your name is so terrible, typical of an atheist "(assuming you're atheist, of course.), it is already losing most of its civility. From what I've seen scrolling the last few pages, it's just everyone calling eachother idiots, morons, brainwashed twats, and rebellious children.
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ad%20hominem
I believe insults fall under this category, as they are for sure appealing to feelings/prejudices. Of course, it's a more redeemable fallacy than "stacking the deck" or using a "Either/or", but its still a fallacy.
I believe insults fall under this category, as they are for sure appealing to feelings/prejudices. Of course, it's a more redeemable fallacy than "stacking the deck" or using a "Either/or", but its still a fallacy.
if i used a logical argument and then at the end called someone a faggot, that wouldn't be ad hominem. in order to be ad hominem i'd have to replace an argument with insults. EX. "why should we believe anything you say, you used to smoke weed in high school"
First of all, I can go through the last 5 pages of conversation and find maybe 10 posts in total being uncivil. The heavy majority (of which I would know considering most of the people who have constant conversations, myself included, aren't rude) are perfectly fine.
Well, that just proves how reliable you are.
He is well educated in The Bible, probably more than anyone on this board. He spent 25 years of his life devoted to Christianity and he almost became a minister.
I think you just don't like the information he brings to the table.
He is well educated in The Bible, probably more than anyone on this board. He spent 25 years of his life devoted to Christianity and he almost became a minister.
I think you just don't like the information he brings to the table.
" that means he's intentionally misrepresenting the Bible. "
Just because he brings factual evidence to the table doesn't mean he is misrepresenting anything.
And if you truly believe he is misrepresenting the bible, call his show next Sunday and start a debate. Prove him wrong.
Just because he brings factual evidence to the table doesn't mean he is misrepresenting anything.
And if you truly believe he is misrepresenting the bible, call his show next Sunday and start a debate. Prove him wrong.
none of what he said is accurate. there is not a single fact that supports atheism
and no, i'm not gonna call his pathetic show. anytime he gets proven wrong he just resorts to yelling and interrupting.
in this video he hangs up on a caller after he's stumped www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYeoTFbLo_Y
and no, i'm not gonna call his pathetic show. anytime he gets proven wrong he just resorts to yelling and interrupting.
in this video he hangs up on a caller after he's stumped www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYeoTFbLo_Y
" and no, i'm not gonna call his pathetic show. anytime he gets proven wrong he just resorts to yelling and interrupting. "
He has never been proven wrong to what I have seen. I have yet to see him yell and I have watched many videos now. He does raise his voice from time to time when the callers get belligerent or chaotic. He also hangs up on people who get belligerent or chaotic, especially if they are talking in circles, about nonsense or have taken up half the show.
" none of what he said is accurate. there is not a single fact that supports atheism "
Proof?
He has never been proven wrong to what I have seen. I have yet to see him yell and I have watched many videos now. He does raise his voice from time to time when the callers get belligerent or chaotic. He also hangs up on people who get belligerent or chaotic, especially if they are talking in circles, about nonsense or have taken up half the show.
" none of what he said is accurate. there is not a single fact that supports atheism "
Proof?
I disagree. He was staying consistent to his original statements throughout. He pointed out from the beginning that there was a structural fallacy in the argument, and Slick wanted to continue on delving into deeper theoretics without first correcting the issue(around statement 3 I believe).
That puts Dilahunty in the position of debating theoretics that are basically all false(or weak) after the point of the first structural fallacy. If I build a house that has weak walls, anything above that is put in danger of collapsing, especially as I add any weight, such as the roof.
And neither of them really achieved the point of why God does or does not exist, which is the entire point of the show. The debate was really pointless.
Do I agree that Slick frustrated Dilahunty to the max? Absolutely. But Slick was frustrated as well.
That puts Dilahunty in the position of debating theoretics that are basically all false(or weak) after the point of the first structural fallacy. If I build a house that has weak walls, anything above that is put in danger of collapsing, especially as I add any weight, such as the roof.
And neither of them really achieved the point of why God does or does not exist, which is the entire point of the show. The debate was really pointless.
Do I agree that Slick frustrated Dilahunty to the max? Absolutely. But Slick was frustrated as well.
Hey guys, I won't be posting for a bit, I'm gonna try and refute all of these. So far I've noticed that the creator put in a lot of filler, ex, he gave two verses. One had to do with the Ark of the Covenant, the other had to do with how long Saul was king. See y'all later, I'm hoping to get the first bit up and on pastebin by tonight.
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faith
/fāTH/
Noun
Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
I don't have complete trust or confidence there isn't a God I'm just saying there isn't reliable evidence for a God
/fāTH/
Noun
Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
I don't have complete trust or confidence there isn't a God I'm just saying there isn't reliable evidence for a God
You haven't given any reliable evidence.
You want some evidence:
-YOUR RELIGION SOUNDS like a children's book story
-It's ridiculous how many questions your religion poses and the contradictories it has
-It is completely unfair (the test)
- and more and more
You want some evidence:
-YOUR RELIGION SOUNDS like a children's book story
-It's ridiculous how many questions your religion poses and the contradictories it has
-It is completely unfair (the test)
- and more and more
but when we say story book claims like "a talking snake told Eve to eat the apple" - no supporting evidence and counter evidence.
we aren't manipulating the story to make it sound ridiculous that is the absolute truth you must believe in a talking animal. But you are leaving out many details to make it sound absurd if you said: "a frog mutated slightly to make it stand a little more upright meaning it was able to stand upright and therefore survive successfully and pass on it's genes. This process repeated itself until the frog stood upright and. The dinosaur could then travel further and faster spreading itself and thriving and when there was a disaster all the weak dinosaurs with bad genes died leaving the strongest dinosaurs to survive meaning that dinosaurs kept adapting to the environment. As the environment changed dramatically over millions of years the dinosaurs had to change dramatically also to survive in these environments, eventually they turned into humans." - supported by the fossil record, geology, genetics, experimentation
which claim is more absurd?
we aren't manipulating the story to make it sound ridiculous that is the absolute truth you must believe in a talking animal. But you are leaving out many details to make it sound absurd if you said: "a frog mutated slightly to make it stand a little more upright meaning it was able to stand upright and therefore survive successfully and pass on it's genes. This process repeated itself until the frog stood upright and. The dinosaur could then travel further and faster spreading itself and thriving and when there was a disaster all the weak dinosaurs with bad genes died leaving the strongest dinosaurs to survive meaning that dinosaurs kept adapting to the environment. As the environment changed dramatically over millions of years the dinosaurs had to change dramatically also to survive in these environments, eventually they turned into humans." - supported by the fossil record, geology, genetics, experimentation
which claim is more absurd?
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thebritishguy (04/01/2013) [-]
a talking snake is logcal lmao was that a joke? a snake can make this sound "hssssss" just checking that you understand. If the snake somehow has the parts of the brain, vocal cords, tongue, lips, language to speak it isn't a snake it is a giant head with a tail, seriously your head is full of garbage
How is that pathetic? This board has only strengthened by faith. Besides all the arguments for God I've been shown, I've also come to realize that most atheists are either
1 - rebellious kids
2- disgusting people who are angry because of how their life sucks and they lash out.
I will give props to swifty, noble, and thebritishguy for being classy. The world needs more atheists like that. They're great guys.
1 - rebellious kids
2- disgusting people who are angry because of how their life sucks and they lash out.
I will give props to swifty, noble, and thebritishguy for being classy. The world needs more atheists like that. They're great guys.
Eh, the debate over what "x party is like" and what "y party is like" shouldn't really influence what you believe. There are horrible people in every group, and unfortunately they tend to be the most vocal ones. One need only look at Islam to see this: the majority are reasonable and respectable folk, but the minor group of violent ones get all the news coverage.
Don't let how a party is viewed alter what you believe, and don't generalize an entire group based on the actions of a few, even if you're using the word "most". As far as religion itself goes: I'm an atheist, but I think before we get into the whole "does God exist" debate everyone has to learn to tolerate each others views. Plenty of theists spew hatred towards those who oppose their views, and plenty of atheists put down others simply because of what they believe. If we really want to collectively debate(not argue) about the existence of God(s), this hatred has to end first.
Don't let how a party is viewed alter what you believe, and don't generalize an entire group based on the actions of a few, even if you're using the word "most". As far as religion itself goes: I'm an atheist, but I think before we get into the whole "does God exist" debate everyone has to learn to tolerate each others views. Plenty of theists spew hatred towards those who oppose their views, and plenty of atheists put down others simply because of what they believe. If we really want to collectively debate(not argue) about the existence of God(s), this hatred has to end first.
Wow, stop right their. It seems to me like your being ignorant and putting all atheists into 1 or more categorie(s). Not all people are like that at all, I know many people who are adults, even parents and are atheists. They actually happen to live much better lives then other adults. The reason many young people are becoming atheists is because we as humanity are greatly increasing our knowledge and only now has it become highly okay to be atheist. Kids on the other hand are doing it to stick in but not all.
Many atheists could seem angry when talking is because they hear complete non sense coming out of stupid religious people's mouths when discussing religion and other matters.
I'm myself am not athiest btw.
The fact that this board has strengthed your faith is even more pathetic
Many atheists could seem angry when talking is because they hear complete non sense coming out of stupid religious people's mouths when discussing religion and other matters.
I'm myself am not athiest btw.
The fact that this board has strengthed your faith is even more pathetic
Well yeah, anyone with common sense would be offended by that name. But back to the topic, this board has shown me what atheists are like. Like I said, there are smart, classy atheists. I worded it wrong though. They are the silent majority. It's loudmouths like you who make it look bad.
I'm not an atheist, did that part just go through your head like every other argument?
I'm not going to start talking about my name because i have gone through it many times. I believe in either no restriction for humor or full. There is no, "i like this and i dont like that, blah blah blah that hurts my feeling its bad but this is funny so it doesnt"
I'm not going to start talking about my name because i have gone through it many times. I believe in either no restriction for humor or full. There is no, "i like this and i dont like that, blah blah blah that hurts my feeling its bad but this is funny so it doesnt"
Are you referring to the strength giving hair of Samson, or Leviticus disallowing shaving?
Samson was told not to cut his hair because it was a personal symbol, not a rule for others.
Leviticus has been revised in the new testament to were most rules are null and void.
Samson was told not to cut his hair because it was a personal symbol, not a rule for others.
Leviticus has been revised in the new testament to were most rules are null and void.
Yes they are, but they are behaving unnaturally, evolution equipped animals to mate between a male and female, in order to reproduce offspring. If 2 males or 2 females were to attempt to reproduce, they would fail and thus acting unnaturally. If they were to continue this, they would die without ever reproducing, there specific gene code and DNA strand would end. Being gay is unnatu