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#299 - mainstreamusername (12/28/2012) [-]
Spanking or striking lowers intelligence and produces hostile attitudes.    
With more of top image, there will be more of bottom image.   
I'm not saying that everybody that gets spanked turns out wrong, just stating the results of a study, and pulling references in my own life.   
I've never been hit, and I turned out fine.
Spanking or striking lowers intelligence and produces hostile attitudes.
With more of top image, there will be more of bottom image.
I'm not saying that everybody that gets spanked turns out wrong, just stating the results of a study, and pulling references in my own life.
I've never been hit, and I turned out fine.
#324 to #299 - deaddirtycarny (12/28/2012) [-]
ah but the reason those statistics turned out they did good sir/madame is due to the fact that there is more of the top one for the wrong reasons or as you stated, the hitting is not fitted to the reason i.e. you hit your sister *punch* I personally hate violence, but god damn if i didn't earn my fair share of ass whoopins when i was little. it is also dependent of the personality of the child. Abuse and discipline are not one and the same, i have experienced both and i turned out fine.
User avatar #326 to #324 - mainstreamusername (12/28/2012) [-]
Understandably.
Thank you for talking to me like a respectable human being.
#328 to #326 - deaddirtycarny (12/28/2012) [-]
Why of course. you respecfully shared your opinion with us and i felt that i should do the same. Had you been trying to shove it down everyone's throats (westboro) I would have been a total dick. Thank you for not taking offensse to my opinion. Thumb for you good sir.
#303 to #299 - ronyx (12/28/2012) [-]
I been hit and turned fine, i know a lot of people who were hit and turned out fine.
I been hit and turned fine, i know a lot of people who were hit and turned out fine.
User avatar #305 to #303 - mainstreamusername (12/28/2012) [-]
>Not all.
>Implying I said all.
User avatar #307 to #305 - ronyx (12/28/2012) [-]
Please point me to where i said "all".
User avatar #309 to #307 - mainstreamusername (12/28/2012) [-]
Using that .gif to get your point across just seems... Rude. I simply said that there isn't a reason to smack a child. Go look up the tests yourself.
User avatar #313 to #309 - ronyx (12/28/2012) [-]
Don't need to look up any tests, i trust my experience far more.
User avatar #321 to #313 - mainstreamusername (12/28/2012) [-]
That literally just gets interpreted to "I'm not looking it up, because I believe that hitting a child is the best approach. Even though it's been proven wrong."
User avatar #322 to #321 - ronyx (12/28/2012) [-]
Okay, that's good to know.
#294 - corundum (12/28/2012) [-]
Yeah, there weren't punks and jerkdicks back when spanking was more common.

Don't hit kids and they won't be quick to get in fistfights and kill each other later on in life. My parents and I were taught to function as normal human beings and not just do things out of fear of retribution. Rarely is physically doing anything necessary unless you just feel like blowing off steam.

Your reasoning is anger and ignorance-fueled. Clear your head and actually think before you advocate something.
#289 - thisotherdude (12/28/2012) [-]
"If your son does something wrong, smack him. If he does it again, smack him harder."
#273 - miaandvinny (12/28/2012) [-]
Or, here's a crazy idea, you could just lecture them about what they did wrong. Make them know it wasn't ok, that way, they learn to listen to you out of respect, not fear.
#285 to #273 - wehavecandy (12/28/2012) [-]
They won't respect you if they don't fear you.
User avatar #350 to #285 - ivoryhammer (12/28/2012) [-]
Respect=/= Fear
#361 to #350 - wehavecandy (12/28/2012) [-]
I never said that, but a child will not respect you if you do not show dominance in some way. You cannot reason with a child because a child has no reason. That being said, there is a big difference between discipline and abuse.
#410 to #361 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
You can inspire respect by being someone they look up to.
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#297 to #285 - corundum (12/28/2012) [-]
You do know Machiavelli was being sarcastic, right?
#292 to #285 - miaandvinny (12/28/2012) [-]
I respect my parents, they never hit me. I respect the president, did Obama ever spank me? I respect officers, teachers, doctors, and a lot of other people, and none of them hit me or made me fear them.
#317 to #292 - jurto (12/28/2012) [-]
That's true. But being able to feel respect for someone you don't fear requires a certain amount of kind soul that not everyone has.
User avatar #272 - nucularwar (12/28/2012) [-]
I never got hit as a kid and I turned out half decent. All the thugs like that at my school were the ones who always talked about getting hit at home.
#268 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
Haha, everyone gets so butthurt about parenting strategies.

Look, I was spanked on occasion as a child, and it worked. Now, it's not like a got smacked and they left it at that, I had to sit down and listen to a lecture as to why what I was doing was wrong and why I shouldn't do it anymore. Getting spanked was like the last resort if they couldn't get me to stop throwing a tantrum long enough to listen them.

Not it might not work with every kid, and maybe science has proven it to be detrimental. All I'm saying is, at least my parents tried. Most of the parents just kinda sit back and neglect the actual nurturing part of parenting if their kid isn't listening.

I mean, **** , I'm not a druggy thug, nor have I developed any psychological issues; I did well in school, and I try very hard to be a conscientious human.

TL;DR - Whether a parent spanks or not doesn't make them bad, neglecting the nurturing and teaching respect is what makes them bad.
#409 to #268 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
was with you until you got to "most"
I'm pretty sure most people are pretty decent, save for some mild stupidity like everyone else.
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User avatar #295 to #254 - Schwarzenegger (12/28/2012) [-]
I was spanked when I was a kid, and for that I'm thankful.



Your argument is invalid.
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User avatar #315 to #298 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
So a slap or a spank is physical abuse?
Might as well rape the children, then...
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User avatar #336 to #320 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
A child IS a barbaric entity. Go to a kindergarten and tell me : do you see reasoning acceptance and order there?
Scientific psychology is a theory, less than 100 years old and yet it claims to give all the answers, seriously?
What material proof do you have that it is even working? Because YOU are a good person? Well, let me tell you that I am a good person too along with my brothers, sisters, cousins and all of us received a slap on the face when we talked back or refused to obey. It has been like this for decades, centuries and millenias. Even during the "enlighted periods" of humanity.
This is how the society works, this is how the life goes.
Now, well, go and be a reasonable scientist and go talk the inmates and mafia bosses out of their bad bad habits...
User avatar #310 to #298 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Lie as much as you want.
You at least received one slap in the face.
Stop acting like you remember everything since you were born.
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User avatar #327 to #316 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Your argument is that "since it worked with you, it will work with everybody"
You call this an argument?
And yes, you are ******* lying.
If it's not your parents, then it's a teacher, an uncle, an aunt or whoever.
#351 to #327 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
I don't think that was her argument at all. Perhaps your parents slapped the eyes out of your head or ****** up your ability to read. I think her argument was an actual article along with an example of an actual country, on the Earth (the planet we live on).
User avatar #300 to #298 - Schwarzenegger (12/28/2012) [-]
Ah, point taken.
User avatar #279 to #254 - alhemicar (12/28/2012) [-]
What would be best probably was like here in former Yugoslavia, at the age of 18 every man was conscripted into the JNA (Yugoslav People's Army) for a year and the officers knew how to deal with them.
Someone does **** , the officer for example tells him to move a pile of firewood from one place to another. When he's done the officer relises it was better on the first place it was. When he moves it again officer says they need it on the other place again. Later he sees that it will get wet there so it has to be moved again and so on....
Or he'd get to dig out a hole. When he's finished he has the honor of burying it again. Then he'd dig it out again....
You get my point. Those officers knew how to deal with thrash.
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User avatar #271 to #254 - SemiAnon (12/28/2012) [-]
Aggressive people have aggressive children, and passive people have passive children?
What a breakthrough!
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User avatar #270 to #254 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Please...
Respect and self behavior don't come by itself. They are concepts way too hard to understand for a 5 years old.
A kid must learn that there are limits.
I don't mean that every little mistake deserves a beating with a wooden plank, but a little spanking from times to times will make the kid understand that he should abide to the rules in the house he lives in and/or the social codes when he's outside or with strangers.
#280 to #270 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
No fist, open hand, or wooden plank could ever hurt me as much as hearing "I am disappointed in you," my parents have NEVER laid a hand on me.
User avatar #288 to #280 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Right...
And when the kid answers "A ggaga gaa", you understand that he got the message.
#293 to #288 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
Lol if a kid is speaking in "gaga gaa" it is way to young to be disciplined through lectures AND physical beatings, not only does it not understand why it is being hit it will forget it just as soon as it stops crying... what are you trying to prove?
User avatar #301 to #293 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
A slap on the hand makes it understand it should not touch this or that.
Might save it from a burned hand later.
And your example was **** .
Concepts such as "disappoint" "proud" or "duty" are just as vague as why the sky is blue in the head of a 3 years old. Though he would be perfectly able to talk back at you, to break a plate while looking right at you to see how you react or to torture the cat a little bit.
The question is : how many young kids have you had to deal with so far?
#319 to #301 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
I have one and he knows not to touch the ******* stove, not to yell at his mom, and not to tell us "no" and, just like my parents have never laid a hand on me, I have never laid a hand on him. Anyone who meets my son is utterly shocked at how young he is for being so well disciplined. I have ZERO child proof mechanisms in my house, my solution is education, "you put a key in there and IT WILL **** you up." Kids are kids, they're not stupid, just kids. As for putting your hand on the stove, I fell on the stove when I was younger and cooking with my mom, guess what? Went to the hospital, got it taken care of, had a scare from the burner on my fore arm (you can literally see the rings from the burner) and I never touched a ******* stove again.
User avatar #331 to #319 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
So now, you can't cook and you have a scar, you call this a victory?
Having no child proof equipment at home is not an education choice, it's a lack of responsibilities.
Now, what do we have here?
A parent who doesn't have the backbone to use his real account to post his opinions?
#334 to #331 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
I'm an awesome chef by the way, the scar is now covered by tattoos, and I would consider all of those a victory over the victory of stomping on your own child.
#332 to #331 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
I have no account on here, actually I do but I don't care enough for FJ to remember the username/password (or enough to do a recovery). Lack of responsibility couldn't be further from the truth, in fact it's called good parenting. I don't just child proof my house and let my kid run through it as I sit there and watch TV (or game).
User avatar #339 to #332 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Right...
So I say "burns" you say "I buned myself on a stove"
I say "scared of cooking" you say "I'm a chef"
...
If I say that you are scared of the Moon? Would you answer that you are the ******* Buzz Aldrin?
Not caring about FJ but still refreshing the page every 30 secs. in order to keep this conversation?

That's it, Mr. 12 years old troll, I guess we are done here.
#356 to #339 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
Just for the record I didn't mean "I am a chef" as in I am actually a professional chef, I meant it as "I can make some ******* panties drop when I cook," but I guess a 13 year old wouldn't know about that...
#343 to #339 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
Don't care enough for FJ, do care enough to continue to tell you that you're wrong, two completely different things
#342 to #339 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
Lol I already told you my age, and my old occupation, I have no reason to lie, I gain nor lose anything from it. Just because you have yet to come up with a valid argument to anything doesn't mean I am a troll. Maybe your parents beat you too much? Congrats you have now become the motivation for me to continue not hitting my child. It obviously makes them retarded. You're guess we're done now? As far as I am concerned we have been done, as I have stated before, you have brought nothing to the table except ******** .
User avatar #276 to #270 - nucularwar (12/28/2012) [-]
kids understand getting yelled at just as much as a spanking
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User avatar #284 to #275 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Are you implying that if a father gives a slap to a kid who willingly said " **** you" to his mum, that means he is an aggressive son of a bitch?

I was slapped a few times or kicked in the butt along with my borthers and sisters, and yet we are not these aggressive thugs you are discribing.
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User avatar #282 to #275 - alhemicar (12/28/2012) [-]
Hitler was taught by his parents through education, empathy, compassion and rewarding too...
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User avatar #302 to #291 - alhemicar (12/28/2012) [-]
Not at all. Yes he was intelligent and etc. but his plan from the beging was the partition of humans based upon what believed were higher and lesser races, meaning:
Germans - the only race that could create culture
Chinese - can carry that culture over
Slavs - unable to understand culture, useful only for manual labor
Semites - useless for anything, a waste of space, air and food, don't deserve to live
User avatar #269 to #254 - alhemicar (12/28/2012) [-]
Basically half of Europe has laws prohibiting hitting children.
#267 to #254 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
They have also done similar test in the military. Recruits who have cell phones, video games, and down time, often do better then the recruits at places where they beat the **** out of you (yes, physical beatings are not allowed in the military anymore but it's a very fine ******* line)
#278 to #267 - dedaluminus (12/28/2012) [-]
Well, yeah, of course the recruits do better that way. But should they? If I'm going to clear a building, I want to know that the guy at my back is a hardcore ************ who eats danger and ***** freedom, not some pussy who can't get through basic without a digital crutch. The point being, that a soldier should be of a very specific mindset, and you can't find out if a person is capable unless you push them to their limits.
#287 to #278 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
Limits can be pushed without physical violence.
User avatar #290 to #287 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Well, how about "no"?
#306 to #290 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
Are you like 13? These are things that are tried and true. You can beat the **** out of someone in basic training but it doesn't make them more likely to jump on a grenade for their squad. The "hardcore ************ who eats danger and ***** freedom," is usually the first "my back hurts, I can't deploy little bitch"
User avatar #325 to #306 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
You have to know pain, you must have endured it and got over it to know how to ignore it.
What are you? 15?
You think that courage and bravery are learnt through reading and playing Skyrim?
#330 to #325 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
25, I'm the same anon that has been responding to your other ******** . Spent 6 years in the Infantry, enlisted when I was 17, one deployment to Afghanistan, grew up playing vidya games, continue to play, it's a passion I will never give up. Courage doesn't come from beatings. I am not talking out of my asshole, this is stuff that I have actually seen.
User avatar #340 to #330 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Right, and you also are a chef, with one child, you burned yourself and all...
You don't care about FJ but you are holding 2 conversations here...
So long, youg troll.
#345 to #340 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
Again I have no reason to lie, you've brought nothing to the table. A 25 year old combat vet who was burned on the stove when he was little and now has a kid... If I am going to lie wouldn't I make myself out to be a cowboy astronaut millionaire, why would I lie about that **** lol
User avatar #405 to #345 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Why would a troll be a troll?
Well, I'll let you write a thesis on the matter.
#251 - SemiAnon (12/28/2012) [-]
Today I learned that 90% of funnyjunk was babied throughout life.
Today I learned that 90% of funnyjunk was babied throughout life.
#253 to #251 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
way to make up statistics
#262 to #253 - SemiAnon (12/28/2012) [-]
>9/10 comments condone spanking and preach about love and understanding
>made up statistic
#263 to #262 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
another made up statistics

or did you count them so that you could feel special about your buttpain?
#281 to #266 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
I'm sorry to hear your autism is getting worse. I wish there was more I could do.
User avatar #283 to #281 - SemiAnon (12/28/2012) [-]
You're funny. I like you, we should hang out.
#248 - psychfouronenine (12/28/2012) [-]
"Wait 'til your father gets home!"
#247 - elcreepo (12/28/2012) [-]
No. Your complete and utter lack of justifiable logic has been repeatedly proven wrong via psychological studies in the comments section, this does not deserve the thumbs it has.    
   
For me to waste time reiterating what's already been said would be a waste of words, so, in short, just No.
No. Your complete and utter lack of justifiable logic has been repeatedly proven wrong via psychological studies in the comments section, this does not deserve the thumbs it has.

For me to waste time reiterating what's already been said would be a waste of words, so, in short, just No.
User avatar #257 to #247 - onceman (12/28/2012) [-]
Ed Wood?
User avatar #242 - pulluspardus (12/28/2012) [-]
that kid is enjoying every bit of it.
#244 to #242 - silverlance (12/28/2012) [-]
what
User avatar #246 to #244 - pulluspardus (12/28/2012) [-]
look at his face, that's the face of a horny dirty whore.
"Oh yes daddy, spank my butt, MOAR MOAR!"
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#237 - SemiAnon (12/28/2012) [-]
I rarely got spanked. It was usually slaps to the face/back of the head (with Mom's rings on), or a quick punch to the gut.
I learned lessons pretty quick.
#232 - thisotherdude (12/28/2012) [-]
What if you're kid gets a boner while you're spanking them?
What if you're kid gets a boner while you're spanking them?
User avatar #274 to #232 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Then they are gay.
Send them to San Francisco.
User avatar #236 to #232 - thisotherdude (12/28/2012) [-]
*your
User avatar #229 - alcatronz (12/28/2012) [-]
An entire comment section of TL;DR
#228 - lasmamoe (12/28/2012) [-]
I respect that people here have been raised with dicipline, and if they think that's the way to go, then thats fine.

However, I have 2 brothers, and the 3 of us were never diciplined nor punished. We didn't have to follow any specific rules, and we were pretty much allowed to do whatever we wanted to.

HOWEVER, my parents are very caring, and they did a terrific job teaching us how to behave properly. My brothers are honestly the nicest people i have ever met, and i like to think that im like that aswell.

My point is that in my mind, "loving and caring" beats "punishing" any day.
User avatar #250 to #228 - psychfouronenine (12/28/2012) [-]
It's all relative. The "punishment" isn't what it is seen as by people that think it's abuse. The main factor in "turning out all right" is the fact that the parents pay attention. Philosophy is secondary to that.
User avatar #227 - jellyman (12/28/2012) [-]
You don't need to spank your kids to make them behave better, but you absolutely shouldn't beat them if they do.
User avatar #224 - mirrorsmirrors (12/28/2012) [-]
Meh, stupid. I think sitting down and talking to your kid is worth a lot more than "when you do things I said I don't like, you're going to be in a lot of pain" There's a time and place for physical discipline, but using it as a go-to fix is just lazy parenting.
User avatar #223 - thepandaking (12/28/2012) [-]
Is this supposed to be ironic? I doubt it, in which case I'd say this is a ton of **** . hell I'm 18, not even close to having kids, and I know better parenting techniques than that, lol.
#222 - quinos (12/28/2012) [-]
We've all seen enough porn to know where this is going.
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