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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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User avatar #343 - charagrin
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I am athiest, and a good person. And technically that makes my good will more valid then a religious persons good will. I am a good person for the sake of being a good person, a religious person is a good person for the reward. And even if they were a good person for the sake of being a good person, they do so believing that they will get rewarded, which kind of taints their whole view. It's kind of like doing chores, a good kid will do a chore because it is a responsibility, another good kid will do it for allowance. etc.
#344 to #343 - anon id: 908da86d
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What a bunch of crap.
User avatar #346 to #344 - charagrin
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How so. Those who do good without reward are the truly deserving. Basic logic. A good example would be: Who would you rather have as a friend, a friend who truly likes you, or a friend who truly likes you when you give him/her stuff?
User avatar #352 to #346 - DoktorHax
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consider the following; god is not supposed to be your friend. he is supposed to be your creator, which means he can do what the hell he wants. the whole bible is about handing the free will he gave you back. that ***** hard to do. its not just say 3 hail mary's and your sins are forgiven. blah blah blah, im drunk, **** you.
User avatar #355 to #352 - charagrin
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I agree, if he exists then his will would be law as his will is ultimate power, but power does not equal truth. Even if a all powerful deity who created everything does exist, his idea of right and wrong are just that, his idea. No more, no less. That is why I do not like the idea of the Christian God in general, nothing against those who do, I just do not. He gave us free will and encourages us to think for ourselves, then penalizes us for questioning everything and doing as we please. That is like giving a kid a toy, telling him to play and have fun with it, then grounding him when he does.
User avatar #361 to #355 - DoktorHax
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well, he wants you to see the toy, realise that the toy will get you nowhere fast, and hand the toy back because all it leads to is a generation of slutty, small minded idiots. if used like people want it to be used. but when one reads the bible all the way through, not just all the baby sweet jesus crap, one realises that it is not a bad way to live. too many people look at one person, or a group of people that are using it as an excuse to do whatever they want, because "hey man, its an age of grace! we can do whatever we want because we are instantly forgiven!"
User avatar #362 to #361 - charagrin
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A good point. What also always annoyed me was his Omnipotence. If he knows everything whether it has happened or not, then he knows what we will do. This means that a pedophile rapist murderer could rape and kill a child, and repent and go to Heaven. This means God knew he was going to commit horrible acts before he did them, and rewarded him for it. This also means he sentenced the child to a horrible death, and hell.
User avatar #365 to #362 - DoktorHax
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god gave us FREE WILL. we have the ability to do what we want to. and no, neither you nor i dont get why that **** happens, but remember, if that rapist has not truly repented, as in, weeping and gnashing of teeth style, and actually means his repentance, he will havew to answer for every soul that he damaged. though i personally think that pedophilia is an unforgivable sin, because, "do unto the children, and you have done unto me". or something similar. what the biblke says that god wants is for us to conquer the flesh, or in other words, give the free will back.
#369 to #365 - anon id: d3940f0b
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I'm not really religious or anything like that, but didn't the devil give humans free will?
User avatar #433 to #369 - charagrin
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Satan convinced Adam and Eve to eat of the Tree Of Knowledge, whether that gave free will, self awareness, or whatever else is up to interpretation.
User avatar #370 to #369 - DoktorHax
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cant tell if trolling, or just stupid...
#350 to #343 - DoktorHax
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smile.jpg will eat your soul.
#341 - oversoul
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because of the ethic
User avatar #337 - sigmundisdabest
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because that **** is plain wrong and you will go to jail?....
#298 - sotalokki
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Because 20 years of jail and I don't need religion to be a good person.
Because 20 years of jail and I don't need religion to be a good person.
#296 - carlsagouin
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Because religion isn't necessary for being a "good" person ?

(I got the funny, don't worry)
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User avatar #243 - malhaloc
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I haven't even looked at the comments but I would assume I could expect a storm of ****** proportions.
User avatar #173 - mrblueftw
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even a atheist has to agree,
without the fear of hell do you know how much **** the 2 billion christians would do?
User avatar #177 to #173 - mussyo
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yeah, imagine if they didn't have religion, they might have committed mass murder or something.

oh wait.
User avatar #171 - tredbear
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so because I have no religion, i have no purpose in life? huh, i was wanting to be a leader of a country, but apparently people without a religion can't accomplish their goals in life. Isn't that weird? This is one large reason why I have no religion, because that is their excuse to help rid the "atheists" of the planet, My purpose in life is to enjoy it while it lasts, so no Religious asshole is going to bring me down.
User avatar #128 - Whatwhat
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Kill one man, or kill a dozen. It's all the same. They can only hang you once, right?
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#137 to #126 - anon id: a5b4950a
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Except that agnostic means "without knowledge." Actively pursuing a state of not knowing requires that you reject knowledge, thereby making you willfully ignorant. Anyone actually rejecting knowledge is a fool.
#140 to #137 - anon id: e4f3e6b2
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"a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience." (dictionary.com) Its not exactly ignorance its just stating hey i dont give a **** both of you (referring to atheism and religion) will never know anyway.
User avatar #149 to #126 - cullenatorguy
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accept you need to stop being stupid and look up the actual definition of religion. Atheism is the lack of belief in any deity. Simple as that.
User avatar #139 to #126 - noblexfenrir
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Agnsoticism does not refer to belief, only knowledge. Atheism is ridiculous to call a religion because as you said, you are choosing not to believe something. All you are doing is refuting the claim made by another person. In this sense not playing football is a sport (not collecting stamps in a hobby, etc etc. These have been expressed many times before so I feel little need to repeat them)

Conversion is in relation to a transition, I hardly see how this makes atheism a religion.
User avatar #141 to #139 - noblexfenrir
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Agnosticism*

and to expand on that point:

Is there a god?

Yes/No-Gnostic
I don't know- Agnsotic

Do you believe in god?

Yes-Theist
No-Atheist
User avatar #160 to #126 - noopis
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Atheism really isn't a religion but some Atheists treat it as a religion. Instead of worshiping a God they worship Richard Dawkins and start arguments with religious folks and insult them. You can also be Agnostic and an Atheist at the same time. I'm Agnostic because I realize there is no way to know for certain whether there is or isn't a God, but I'm an Atheist because I don't believe there is a God or any supernatural ********. Regardless I still respect other people's religious beliefs as long as they aren't hostile towards my lack of faith.
User avatar #93 - NexusSeven
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Because...What if you're wrong?
User avatar #39 - doodnotheface
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Just because the bible (any of them) teaches morals doesn't mean it's the only place to get them. (yeah other religious texts too I guess)
User avatar #38 - heartlessrobot
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Because, I haven't finished planning the rampage, my manifesto has yet to be written, and I am lacking funds for the armaments. Procrastination saves lives.
User avatar #28 - tenaciousjon
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Assuming that being Christian/Catholic/Generally believing in God means being a good person.

It actually has nothing to do with being good. It just means believing in God and doing what he says for you to do.
#7 - curses
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Christians people here's a food for thought for you guys.

Do you follow EVERY rule in the Bible?

If not, why not?
To brutal or savage you say? But it's in the Bible. Word of God or book of God.
God made the rules and you should kinda follow them.

But if you do not do that, you've made up your own moral without the need of your God. So now you've created a new set of morals for yourself like any other good person would have done when they encounter such savage laws in a holy book.

This moral is most likely better than what God had in mind as well. So ask yourself this, do you REALLY need God to be a good person?
User avatar #353 - chrystof
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I find it funny that when a post bashing religion comes on here all the religious people get butthurt and are told "it's just a joke" by atheists and now a post not even bashing either of the two and it's the atheists that are butthurt and religious people saying "it's just a joke".

Can we not just agree that there are good and bad religious people, and good and bad atheists.
User avatar #241 - ryukyukids
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Why don't you do the same and just repent?
#118 - anon id: 52f58bc5
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Most atheist's I have met, live by a moral code unlike any I have seen, not that they do not fall prey to the same temptations as everyone else, they just don't feel guilty about it, worry about it, or beat themselves up over it.
User avatar #43 - gromitandwallace
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Why do I have morals? Because as an atheist I feel that I have no more of a right to be here than anybody else, unlike crazy religious nuts who feel they have a god given right to act like they're above anybody else just because they are the "chosen ones".