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#427 - notsixroller
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(11/26/2012) [-]
'If you don't believe in God, you have no morality!'   
   
The Atheist and Agnostic's worst nightmare. Because it's watertight reasoning.   
   
Yep...   
   
Totally...   
   
Watertight...
'If you don't believe in God, you have no morality!'

The Atheist and Agnostic's worst nightmare. Because it's watertight reasoning.

Yep...

Totally...

Watertight...
#416 - newdriskollgaming
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(11/26/2012) [-]
Jail
#327 - dovakiin
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(11/26/2012) [-]
atheists actually have a stronger reaction to empathy than religious people
#333 to #327 - anon
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(11/26/2012) [-]
you know them all, don't you? :)
#495 to #333 - dovakiin
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(11/27/2012) [-]
i didn't say i was atheist. the nine divines is all i need
#303 - cazabrow
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(11/26/2012) [-]
Because I have morals....   
   
   
and most people feel guilt
Because I have morals....


and most people feel guilt
#288 - tentaquil
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(11/26/2012) [-]
BE ADVISED
BE ADVISED
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#212 - executorchunk
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(11/26/2012) [-]
Is anyone here a goddamn AGNOSTIC? Seriously, I tell people that and they have no idea what the **** I'm talking about. It's a "middle of the road" point of view on religion. In fact, I am a rare breed, a "spiritual agnostic".    
   
First off, my main main beliefs are in SCIENCE. Being an agnostic justifies my beliefs in religion, deeming the answers to it "unknowable". I believe in the laws of nature, I honestly don't think that a god or gods created the heavens, universe, and everything. Yet besides that, this is still a slightly religious side of me. I want to believe there is a god/afterlife, I want to think that god has made a place for me in the world, I want to believe that what goes around comes around. But the scientific part of me doesn't explain any of that.    
   
Sorry, not trying to start a religious war ground here, it's just the way I feel. I'm curious if there is anyone like me who is an agnostic, I've never met anyone like that on the web or in person.
Is anyone here a goddamn AGNOSTIC? Seriously, I tell people that and they have no idea what the **** I'm talking about. It's a "middle of the road" point of view on religion. In fact, I am a rare breed, a "spiritual agnostic".

First off, my main main beliefs are in SCIENCE. Being an agnostic justifies my beliefs in religion, deeming the answers to it "unknowable". I believe in the laws of nature, I honestly don't think that a god or gods created the heavens, universe, and everything. Yet besides that, this is still a slightly religious side of me. I want to believe there is a god/afterlife, I want to think that god has made a place for me in the world, I want to believe that what goes around comes around. But the scientific part of me doesn't explain any of that.

Sorry, not trying to start a religious war ground here, it's just the way I feel. I'm curious if there is anyone like me who is an agnostic, I've never met anyone like that on the web or in person.
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#228 to #212 - noblexfenrir
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"Being an agnostic justifies my beliefs in religion"

No it doesn't.

"deeming the answers to it "unknowable""
So that justified belief?

". I want to believe there is a god/afterlife"
Because you want to, doesn't make it real.

"But the scientific part of me doesn't explain any of that."
So "god did it"? Nice use of the scientific process you say you hold so highly.



Agnostic is not a determination of belief, it is of knowledge. If you believe in a god you are a THEIST. Very simple stuff mate.

", I've never met anyone like that on the web or in person."
Well on the web alot of people are informed on what agnostic means, so they don't use the word wrong.
#240 to #228 - executorchunk
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Hey hold on, you're turning around everything on me. I am the complete opposite of being "uneducated" and using the wrong wording, I took up religion in a well respected university and had this discussion with my instructor who is a pastor. I also wrote multiple papers on this subject. Trust me I did ALOT of research on this.

Being agnostic DOES justify my beliefs in a region, there's no way you say it can't. It is it's own idea itself, as I said, a middle of the road view where beliefs in either argument are unknowable. You are also misunderstanding my "scientific" beliefs. Look, I believe in the laws of nature, as I said. BUT, I do feel that science doesn't know/explain everything yet. For instance, we don't know if the world around us is nothing more than a 2D projection. We don't know that there is an opposite or parallel universe out there where a god DOES exist. WE can't even explain quantum entanglement, how can two particles in the universe interact with one another across vast distances? There's things in this world we don't understand it.

Is it superficial, made by a god? Or can science explain it once again? Simply put the answer is "unknowable". We may never know. I would never call myself a theist, maybe there is a more general term for what I believe. But what I learned in college sometimes is also ********, who knows, maybe my professor blew smoke up my ass for being anti-religious. Maybe I'm just a straight up atheist.
#249 to #240 - noblexfenrir
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(post 2)

"can science explain it once again?"

Yes it can, because science is literally the process of examining and researching to find an answer.

" I would never call myself a theist"
Do you believe in a god? If so you are a theist.
Do you not? Then you are an atheist.

#247 to #240 - noblexfenrir
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As have I, and I never said you were uneducated, just that you didn't understand what you were saying.

"Being agnostic DOES justify my beliefs in a region, there's no way you say it can't. It is it's own idea itself, as I said, a middle of the road view where beliefs in either argument are unknowable. "

You can say it does, however what agnosticism actually is doesn't justify in believing something is reality. First, which has been explained, agnosticism has nothing to do with belief, only knowledge. Specifically "I don't know". I don't know does not justify a belief because it specifically requires you to admit there is no conclusive evidence towards a specific idea. Now please tell me objectively how a determination of reality can arise from "I don't know"? and faith does not count.

" I do feel that science doesn't know/explain everything yet. For instance, we don't know if the world around us is nothing more than a 2D projection"

Ofcourse science doesn't know everything yet, science is a process used by humans and humans are not omniscient hence neither would science be. and so what if it is? We base our knowledge off of the reality around us, thought experiments like "what if we are a 2D projection" are moot points because of that.

"We don't know that there is an opposite or parallel universe out there where a god DOES exist. WE can't even explain quantum entanglement, how can two particles in the universe interact with one another across vast distances?"
and we don't know if there are no parallel universes at all. These are thought experiments with no evidence to support them, to use them to support belief is laughably ignorant. Also...we can explain quantum entanglement. The running idea is because of the nature of quantum mechanics the way we see the fields of time and space are perceived differently for subatomic and likewise particles. (This also perpetuates support for ideas like probable causality which runs off the same premise.)
#224 to #212 - kaszak
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Most of thinking, sane atheists are also agnostic. Perhaps there is some kind of higher power, perhaps there is not, we have no way to know that at the moment. The misconception that "atheists know that gods do not exist" is because that most atheists know that there is no christian, muslim, jewish, nordic, greek, or any other gods represented by established, organized religion. These can be disproved, because they are explained in detail in their own holy texts and myths, and if myth is proven false, so is god they represent.
#227 to #224 - executorchunk
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Huh, that is an interesting chart... so many sub categories! I never call myself an "atheist" because I don't feel like I am an extreme, anti-religious person. I have a close friend who is atheist and he is just so one sided, people like them they just seem to not believe in anything religious. Like you said, no gods, no religions, nothing. I feel that way but I am not completely opposed to the idea. I'm going to look more into your chart, thanks for sharing that.
Huh, that is an interesting chart... so many sub categories! I never call myself an "atheist" because I don't feel like I am an extreme, anti-religious person. I have a close friend who is atheist and he is just so one sided, people like them they just seem to not believe in anything religious. Like you said, no gods, no religions, nothing. I feel that way but I am not completely opposed to the idea. I'm going to look more into your chart, thanks for sharing that.
#202 - mrkillernine
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#172 - whywouldyou
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**whywouldyou rolled a random image posted in comment #1855041 at MLP Friendly Board ** OP's face when he knows this is a repost
#156 - nickyandkamy
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#159 to #150 - anon
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ever heard of sarcasm bro?
#197 to #159 - anon
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sarcasm is the lowest form of wit....i got that from somewhere, found a good place to use it. k pl0x thx bye.
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#107 - deathleprechaun
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(11/26/2012) [-]
Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved.
#76 - stianx
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(11/26/2012) [-]
Not believing in hell and jail is two completely different things. I've said it everytime I've seen this post, and I'm going to say it again. If it weren't for laws and jail, religion still couldn't keep loads of people from being killed.
#26 - imagnetsux
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(11/26/2012) [-]
becuase you will be escorted by the constabulary to the penitentiary where a large gentleman named tyrone will violate your hindquarters.
#298 - sotalokki
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(11/26/2012) [-]
Because 20 years of jail and I don't need religion to be a good person.
Because 20 years of jail and I don't need religion to be a good person.
#296 - carlsagouin
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(11/26/2012) [-]
Because religion isn't necessary for being a "good" person ?

(I got the funny, don't worry)
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#93 - NexusSeven
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(11/26/2012) [-]
Because...What if you're wrong?
#39 - doodnotheface
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(11/26/2012) [-]
Just because the bible (any of them) teaches morals doesn't mean it's the only place to get them. (yeah other religious texts too I guess)
#38 - heartlessrobot
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(11/26/2012) [-]
Because, I haven't finished planning the rampage, my manifesto has yet to be written, and I am lacking funds for the armaments. Procrastination saves lives.