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link to the theory pls,

i want to laugh a litle

yeah it's a joke, but still

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/NarutoSilly

thanks mate

Kyuubi/Kurama was never, and isn't, evil to begin with. It appears where evil and hatred fester. You could consider it an equalizer. Where negative emotions fester, it appears and roflstomps the place flat.

Madara was the one that used his hax-eyes and made Kurama attack the First Hokage and Obito used it later on to attack Konoha.

People also Theorized that My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic takes place in a post apocalyptic world where horses took over after being bombarded with radiation from the bombs that wiped the humans out.

Basically exactly what happened in Adventure Time.

Alucard

Luffy

You guys are cute.

i dont really understant why there's such a big debate about this.... in any state naruto's attack are wind based (rasengan or rasen shuriken) and aang basically controls air and all fucking elements.... so yeah.... there really is no question here

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Surprise bitch

Still comprised of natural elements, and even pure chakra attacks probably count as spirit energy, which can also be manipulated with bending.

Aang is not bending a god damn bijuu bomb

why not? He's the incarnation of the planet, he can do what he damn well pleases.

Has he ever shown bending something of that scale and even something LIKE that at all?

Final two episodes of book 3, bending all kinds of shit. Of course all this is purely speculation since it's hard to say how most techniques would react. There's no real confirmation of what a bijuu bomb does exactly, weather it would act like a normal explosion or whatever, or if Aang can bend external spirit energy, although is seems likely that he can considering he can enter the spirit realm.

Too bad he won't be able to bend it when it's flying towards him at hypersonic speeds

hypersonic? That's completely speculative and in no way supported by the manga. It doesn't even seem to create a sonic boom.

I hate debating with people outside of forums like this, because people like you really don't know know things are.
I don't know how fast the bombs themselves are, but Naruto HIMSELF is hypersonic+ in speed and thus moves up to aang, and either rams a bijuu bomb up his ass, or punches him.

Apparently I know 'how things are' better, since I'm going based on what is actually stated in the manga, rather than assuming that a motionless comic panel is moving at a certain speed that isn't stated. Again, Naruto would create sonicbooms if he were going above supersonic, which he doesn't.

Anime/Manga characters don't fucking create sonics booms most of the time.

And the speeds of characters can be calculated.

Bitch, please.

pssssssst.....you're fuckin wrong

Problem is, practically all of Naruto's big attacks require a solid hit, even after he learns to throw the rasen shuriken it would be really difficult for him to hit Aang, who can fly around while still being on the offensive.

also, derp: Rasen shuriken is air element, thus probably totally useless

Wrong, Sage Mode. He doesn't need to make a direct hit at all.

erm, why not? Does sage mode have an additional ranged move in anime filler or something? I only bother to read the manga nowadays.

Official answer from Narutopedia: The user can harness the natural energy surrounding them, turning it into an extension of their body, which increases the reach of their attacks.

So, a physical attack that misses could still hit.

You don't need a solid hit when your destructive capacities are mountain level+

Naruto's never actually done that, just saiyan. Naruto has a very limited list of moves, and almost all of them are strictly melee, excluding the rasen shuriken, which is air element and thus completely useless, and the hand things that he manifests in his latest form, which are mid range and not overly strong. The question is Naruto vs Aang, not Kyuubi vs Aang

If Naruto can't use Kyuubi's chakra, then you may as well say Aang can't go avatar state. In which case Naruto goes into Sage Mode and wins anyways

I never said that, I'm saying that even when using the Kyuubi's chakra he's never demonstrated that kind of power, that was something that the Kyuubi did when it wasn't sealed at all.

Even with the Kyuubi's chakra he's demonstrated that power, don't you read the manga?

He made some big explosions, he never blew up a mountain, that was the whole kyuubi before it was sealed. Bear in mind that Aang's elemental shield from the final episode was completely immune to explosions. And yes I read the manga.

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oh no, an explosion, if only Aang could fly or manipulate the elements or something. <_<;

Has aang ever shown enough speed to dodge such an explosion?

There's a character named combustion man that creates explosions by thinking about it, so yes.

Did such a guy destroy mountains?

again, Naruto can't do that, the complete Kurama can. When the kyuubi was sealed Naruto was only given the ability to channel through half of Kurama's chakra, It was either yin or yang, I forget. Kyuubi mode naruto can create large explosions with a suffieciently charged bomb, it seems, but it seemed to be able to blow up a section of forest, nowhere near an entire mountain, and also had a long charge time that would have been easily interrupted if [Spoiler redacted] actually gave a shit, but he easily avoided it.
Conbustion man can blow up huge rock columns and such, but his explosions are focused attacks, wider range ones get weaker. The fire lord, on the other hand, can create massive explosions that rival the size of the one that Kurama's beast bomb made, which simply dissipated against the wind shield that Aang had.

Kurama is apart of Naruto, stop stop acting like he doesn't count. Even without Kurama, Naruto stomps a mudhole in his head.
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Read that plz

I know Naruto's physically stronger, but how would he reach? The avatar can be in full flight while still splitting continents, raising the seas and blasting fire. They're both pretty much god tier. As people further down in the thread have said, everyone loses since the world gets fucked. Naruto's main limitation is in his few techniques, a limitation that Aang doesn't have, which helps make up for the physical power difference, and also most of Naruto's big attacks would be completely ineffective. Without Kyuubi Chakra mode there's no way Naruto could hit Aang or even have time to initiate sage mode, and with it i'd say they're pretty much even when you consider their full range of abilities. You're putting too much emphasis on sheer destructive power, which is kind of irrelevant when shit gets into god tier like this.

"splitting continents"
No.
How would he reach? I don't know, maybe by moving really fast towards him? Naruto is vastly faster.
Also, why do you say "WITHOUT THE KYUUBI HED NOT HIT HIM LOL" He has it, and he can use it. Also, it IS relevant considering Aang is neither fast enough, nor strong enough to defeat him.

>Naruto can't fly<

Flying won't mean shit when Aang dies within 3 seconds of the fight

That matters why?

you can't hit what you can't reach, naruto is a melee-focussed fighter, and his only ranged moves are rasen shuriken, which is useless in this scenario, and the beam version of the tailed beast bomb, which has a long charge up and only affects a straight line.

Too bad Naruto can create mountain destroying attacks instantly and then shoot them quickly as well.
Aang is NOT avoiding Naruto's attacks.

the Bijuu bomb takes a fucklong time to charge, it's not instant in the slightest.

See those 2 manga pages I sent you.
That didn't exactly take a while.

long enough for a bunch of conversation, also that's a combined 9-tails and 8-tails bijuu bomb, in case you didn't notice.

Yes, I did notice.

Let me find some more pages.
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Are we talking about current Naruto? Because his version of the tailed beast bomb and his ability to summon 3 of gamabuntas friends would disagree with your "solid hit" idea.

his version of the tailed beast bomb is still melee range, and the toads are pretty much melee fighters too (also they'be become kinda weaksauce at this point due to the power creep). It seems pretty even if you ask me.

*ahem* If I may...

If it's a matter of sheer destructive power, then yes, Naruto would win out. He's got the lock on physical melee attacks, and his ability to summon is possibly even greater than Jiraiya's. With Kurama's chakra, he has a nearly endless supply of stamina, which means he can fight damn near forever against a single opponent. He has the ability to recover from almost any physical injury-- before the timeskip, he regenerated a hole in his freaking lung in seconds.

Aang is different; he's not much of a physical fighter, though he has some respectable skill in that department. As the Avatar, he obviously has control over all four elements, which means that, wherever he is, he has a weapon on hand. If he were to go into the Avatar State and fight with that, his ability to bend goes up at least a hundred-fold, as evidenced in the final episode, where he rose the level of the sea by about fifty feet in about three or four seconds with no obvious effort. As he got older, I would assume that his power only grew.

If the two of them fought at their peak physical and mental abilities... Nobody would win, because the world would be destroyed.

To put it on Pokemon terms (For shits and giggles)
Naruto is heavy on Attack and Defense
Aang is heavy on Sp. Attack and Sp. Defense.

This is more wrong than you think. Let's put it into Pokemon terms, if you like, but let's do it right. If we can accept a base of 50 as a starting point, then as it stands, here are Naruto's stats.

HP: 400
ATK: 190
DEF: 210
SP ATK: 350
SP DEF: 280
SPEED: 230

Aang's stats, as I see them:
HP: 220
ATK: 160
DEF: 150
SP ATK: 400
SP DEF: 270
SPEED: 170

Now, it LOOKS like Naruto has an advantage with those numbers, but there are some things to consider, not the least of which is Aang's ability to fly, and to move all of the earth around Naruto. If Naruto can't get a moment to stay still and charge up some of his bigger attacks, then he's done. On the other hand, when you get down to it, if Aang gets hit with one good attack, he's done.

It's really hard to pin this one down.

You got a point there. If the two fought at their peak naruto can destroy cities with just a swept of the 9 tails hand or even infusing the power to his skills and same goes to Aang if he did master the elements at an adult age he can even control lands to split the same in an episode where kiyoshi did ages ago. Yup, the world would be fuck.

YFF when you explained it.

I just presented this scenario to my roommate, who's almost as big a nerd as I am. He looked up and to the left, and I think I broke his brain for a few minutes there...

Good points
The only thing I would add is that humans in naruto's universe are vastly superior to humans in aang's universe, ninja/avatar or not.
When ninjas move, you hardly see them appear or disappear. They jump ridiculous heights and run for crazy lengths. and most importantly, their bodies can take vastly larger amounts of damage compared to people in aang's universe. for example, minato still acts even after the kyuubi's tail goes completely through his body.

We're not talking "shinobi vs bender" here; by and large, the shinobi would win. I'm talking about "over-powered jinchuriki vs physical embodiment of the planet" here. If Aang and Naruto both unleashed everything at their disposal, from what I've seen of both series, I have absolutely NO idea which one would come out on top.

problem, naruto is limited by chakra, aang is not. if the fight goes on long enough aang would over come because naruto wouldnt be able to do his super fancy moves. also if need be aang could just blood bend -.- im sure he would be able to pick up that trick in his avatar state. but this is all semantics so fuck it its a draw because the would would explode.

Agreed.

Same

He can, in the manga he's 100% capable of transforming into Kurama

Seriously why didn't they add that to the anime. The most he could do was turn into a tiny version.
I had no idea the manga was any different

The manga is the same as the anime, it's just like 20-30 chapters ahead, or like 7 episodes.

Oh, well I take it back, I don't pay attention to the anime.

More like 20 then?

Ah then that makes more sence.
Had me worried there

He can now

There are no real things, Naruto likes Sakura, Sakura likes Sasuke, Sasuke, hates everything. and Hinata confessed her love for Naruto, but it changed absolutely nothing other than Sakura being mildly surprised.

You forgot Rock Lee's crush on Sakura

You're right! oops!

oh god, you haven't been to the most obvious part of why Sakura and sasuke cant

I don't know about the manga but in the anime the only thing that's canon is sakura in love with sasuke.

You have to catch up dude it gets awesome trust me