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User avatar #530 - thornberry (10/20/2012) [-]
"If god created the universe, then what created god?"

"God's always been there."

"The couldn't the universe have always been there?"

"Uh.."
User avatar #535 to #530 - archtronisback (10/20/2012) [-]
Look up entropy.
User avatar #534 to #530 - taelamin (10/20/2012) [-]
A theists next responce is special pleading, basically that god is "special" and hes "outside of time and space".

Logic will always be countered by nonsense followed by "LALALALALALALALALA"
User avatar #536 to #534 - archtronisback (10/20/2012) [-]
Of course He is outside time and space. He created it and is therefore separate.
User avatar #542 to #536 - srapture (10/20/2012) [-]
("-according to my beliefs")
User avatar #544 to #542 - archtronisback (10/20/2012) [-]
No, according to the facts. It's not just God, whenever something is created the creator is always separate.
User avatar #546 to #544 - srapture (10/20/2012) [-]
How do you know it wasn't one of the other religion's gods then? Or, perhaps they created your God and he created the universe.
User avatar #559 to #546 - archtronisback (10/20/2012) [-]
Read what I posted above.
#527 - alucardshellhound (10/20/2012) [-]
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User avatar #512 - EdwardNigma ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
Why did they suddenly give retarded questions? Don't retarded catholics like that believe the Earth was only made a few thousand years ago?

I'M ******* CONFUSED.
User avatar #524 to #512 - archtronisback (10/20/2012) [-]
Yes, retarded catholics and christians believe that, but not the average one. A smart catholic/christan would look at the bible, and different meaning from the original hebrew, and realize that the earth's age isn't stated anywhere.
#549 to #524 - thelastamerican (10/20/2012) [-]
I was going to write this, but you seem to have beat me to it. MFW I don't have to explain things.
I was going to write this, but you seem to have beat me to it. MFW I don't have to explain things.
User avatar #517 to #512 - rattman (10/20/2012) [-]
What does god have to do with geography?! This test is giving more questions than answers!
User avatar #520 to #517 - EdwardNigma ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
DAMN IT, I'm not SUPPOSE to have to think and be confused with headaches, this is ******** .

OP, do you SEE the chaos you caused?
#511 - anonymous (10/20/2012) [-]
hang on hang on hang on. Doesn't the bible state that the earth is only 6,000 years old? So she was right on the age of the earth being 4.6 billion years old, but wrong because she didn't say it was created by god? yea.... whatever. Go home test, you are drunk
#528 to #511 - anonymous (10/20/2012) [-]
The bible doesn't say anything specifically about the age of our planet.
#509 - fistofpain (10/20/2012) [-]
Comment Picture
#508 - anonymous (10/20/2012) [-]
Fail, if the big bang happened, then it's because that's how God created the universe. Either way, it leads to God.
User avatar #545 to #508 - srapture (10/20/2012) [-]
Scientology is the only religion that makes sense. The evil lord Xenu something something something, actually!
#514 to #508 - mrkilomike (10/20/2012) [-]
It leads to who?
User avatar #532 to #514 - hahastoned (10/20/2012) [-]
According to the "Big Bang" theory, our entire universe was created from an explosion of particles.

However. What caused that is unknown. Most religions are ways of explaining origins, like creation stories.
#521 to #514 - anonymous (10/20/2012) [-]
The Spaghetti Monster in the sky
#563 to #521 - mrkilomike (10/20/2012) [-]
Seems legit
User avatar #503 - bobodevetjedan (10/20/2012) [-]
lol, what kind of test is that?
User avatar #496 - jibb (10/20/2012) [-]
"Faith in humanity level over 9000"

So, someone who believes in the Big Bang Theory makes you have faith in humanity?

You must have a ******** of faith in humanity levels
#479 - cptsweatpants (10/20/2012) [-]
they ask them if the earth was created by god and the next question is about mesozoic era and the age of reptiles? aren't the christians supposed to deny that?
User avatar #487 to #479 - diablojoe (10/20/2012) [-]
You're generalizing Christians
User avatar #491 to #487 - cptsweatpants (10/20/2012) [-]
You too, i was talking about american catholics here, european ones are somewhat acceptive to darwinism, then you have ofc mormons who i think deny darwin too
User avatar #493 to #491 - diablojoe (10/20/2012) [-]
How am I generalizing? I never denied that there we're Christians that denied that scientific theories are true, but you have to remember that there is such a thing as a Christian Scientist. One thing to remember is that although the two concepts can often be opposed they are not exact opposites. Also, if you're talking about American Catholics mention that you are talking about American Catholics
#501 to #493 - cptsweatpants (10/20/2012) [-]
you're generalizing by using the word christians, the people who were being chased in Rome at year 20, those were christians, the people who believe in Christ now are either catholics or some **** else and yes there are indeed christian scientists but there are also muslim scientists, it very much depends on what they are researching, i really doubt that big bang is their area of expertise... and btw isn't it obvious that we're talking about america since the test is clearly american?
User avatar #522 to #501 - diablojoe (10/20/2012) [-]
By that logic it would be generalization to call someone a scientist because of the different branches of science that they could potentially study
#552 to #522 - cptsweatpants (10/20/2012) [-]
well given the existence of a thing called social sciences i agree with that logic
User avatar #498 to #493 - stukka (10/20/2012) [-]
The test refers to creationism. Creationism is unscientific because it can't be proven or disproven. There may well be Christian scientists but "creation science" is just pseudo science.
User avatar #518 to #498 - diablojoe (10/20/2012) [-]
Yes, but even so you do no deny that such people exist and therefore you are being more open minded that the initial comment. My only problem with the original comment is that it says that all Christians should believe in exactly the same thing, well if that were true than there would be no sub-branches of Christianity i.e There would be no protestants because they would have no need to exist because their beliefs would be exactly the same as the Catholic church anyway. One of the biggest problems with religious arguments are that we label everyone with the title CHRISTIAN without looking at their individual beliefs/beliefs of the church of which they are members of. Saying that all Christians should believe exactly the same thing is like saying that all Scientists should follow the exact same theories instead of developing new and potentially better ones. Calling everyone a Christian and then criticizing them for something that they don't even agree with, e.g criticizing a liberal protestant over their denial of gay rights even if they actually support gay rights, is like calling someone a Scientist and quizzing them on astronomy even though they're a microbiologist.
User avatar #556 to #518 - cptsweatpants (10/20/2012) [-]
well then let me rephrase the original comment: they ask them if the earth was created by god and the next question is about mesozoic era and the age of reptiles? aren't the branches of christianity in america that are highly radical compred to europe supposed to reject the thought of the so called era of the reptiles?
User avatar #564 to #556 - diablojoe (10/20/2012) [-]
That's more acceptable
User avatar #483 to #479 - shadesofbacon (10/20/2012) [-]
Religion changes to fit around new knowledge, now adays most just say god caused the big bang he just didn't tell us cause we wouldn't understand.
#494 to #483 - cptsweatpants (10/20/2012) [-]
sounds like even more 						********					 to me (yes i'm atheist) you should start by saying what religion are you talking about in the first place
sounds like even more ******** to me (yes i'm atheist) you should start by saying what religion are you talking about in the first place
User avatar #495 to #494 - shadesofbacon (10/20/2012) [-]
Catholic/protestant christianity in england
#504 to #495 - cptsweatpants (10/20/2012) [-]
and i'm talking about america since the test is obviously american
and i'm talking about america since the test is obviously american
User avatar #506 to #504 - shadesofbacon (10/20/2012) [-]
Why would american versions of christianity not use the same, easy excuse
#513 to #506 - cptsweatpants (10/20/2012) [-]
i'm afraid that the answer to this simple question eludes me as well, it just so happens that they do
i'm afraid that the answer to this simple question eludes me as well, it just so happens that they do
User avatar #478 - malinko (10/20/2012) [-]
This seems much more like a middle school science test rather than a geography test. on a geograohy test, it will how ask **** like "where the **** is rome located" geography doesnt give a **** how old **** is, just where the **** it is.
User avatar #476 - captainbarnaby (10/20/2012) [-]
I always thought it was not ok to teach religion in public schools?

Sure it might be a religious school but still.
#480 to #476 - BerryLicious (10/20/2012) [-]
I think you can teach religion, to gain an understanding of them, but teaching creationism is the problem, because it's incorrect.
User avatar #533 to #480 - archtronisback (10/20/2012) [-]
And on what grounds do you say that it's incorrect?
#872 to #533 - BerryLicious (10/20/2012) [-]
On nearly every piece of scientific evidence ever produced, ever. But you're probably too brainwashed to notice that.
User avatar #477 to #476 - neoexdeath (10/20/2012) [-]
It's okay to teach it from a secular standpoint.

Its not okay to shove it down someones throat so hard they crap out what they had for breakfast in 1992
User avatar #473 - bluerangermartin (10/20/2012) [-]
Odin
User avatar #471 - LookinHereWhy (10/20/2012) [-]
We all know it was the Racnoss.
#470 - worldatarms ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
Why do I keep getting Question 2 wrong?
#469 - kraetyz (10/20/2012) [-]
I hope this is a faked test.

Then again, I know some places in the US have a funny way of looking at education.
#466 - nephritho (10/20/2012) [-]
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what kind of nonsense is this!
#465 - jasonthedragon (10/20/2012) [-]
although it seems like the teacher is not the brightes bulb in god's lamp store, the comments are an even worse pain in the ass
User avatar #474 to #465 - nephritho (10/20/2012) [-]
what i think is that all classes should be neutral in religion and shall not force their dicks of believe in another persons asshole this go everyone that believe or not believe in god or divine beings
User avatar #464 - neokun ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
That is an unfair question, how could A,B,C or D be right if it is not proven? Thats just ******* forcing religion down your ******* throat.
User avatar #475 to #464 - malinko (10/20/2012) [-]
Well technically the big bang is not proven either, that's why its called a theory. So under the premiss that the creation of the cosmos in its whole has not been 100% proven, the statement "the universe was created by the big bang" is as much a statement of faith as "the universe was created by god" No one knows for sure how things really went down.
User avatar #699 to #475 - neokun ONLINE (10/20/2012) [-]
I did not say the big bang theory was proven, but these people are saying that god is a definite, which it is not. I did not say the big bang theory is proven.
#499 to #475 - notnotkenny (10/20/2012) [-]
Nope, that's the difference between a scientific theory and faith, one is backed up by by the tons of knowledge accumulated by the collective research of a few thousand scientits during a couple of hundreds of years and the other one is backed up by a book. written between two and four thousand years before any of this knowledge. I know where I'll place my bets.
User avatar #510 to #499 - malinko (10/20/2012) [-]
Youre not getting what I am saying.
Im not using the word "faith" as in the way people use it in religon. you can have faith in something without believe in some skydaddy that looks down on us all.
rather in the way or, "did I turn the oven off at home? im pretty sure I did because the red light was off" in this you have faith in your own judgment that you turned that stove off, but without going home to make sure, you will never be 100%. so therefore saying "the oven IS off" is matter of having faith in your guess and "the oven MIGHT be off" is a more accurate statement to the situation.
#526 to #510 - notnotkenny (10/20/2012) [-]
Faith is the belief in something without the need for proof, which is not what is referred to when scientists say "Big Bang created the universe."
User avatar #531 to #526 - malinko (10/20/2012) [-]
but there is no "proof" that the big bang theory really happened, other than the different systems and galaxies moving away from each other and doing some math backwards. and saying, "oh, it must have all been at this point at some time" who knows, some other crazy science **** could have happened insted.

and yes, believe without proof. well saying "The big bang HAPPENED" without rock solid, smoking gun proof, that statement is on faith. because science doesnt work like that, we dont just go, "hey, this is most likey the case, because of these reasons, so thats just what the **** happened and don't question it" sounds an aweful lot like how religon works dont ya think?
#541 to #531 - notnotkenny (10/20/2012) [-]
So you've never heard of something called microwave background radiation, abundance of primordial elements and gas clouds, galaxy distribution and several other points that prove and/or strongly point towards the big bang being what caused the universe. There is a LOT more than just some "math backwards". And no, I'm not saying we shouldn't question it just that get legitimate scientific theories mixed up with silly nonsense.
User avatar #565 to #541 - malinko (10/20/2012) [-]
yes I have heard of all of those things. I do have a college education. and I majored in engineering and it required more science and physics. So no, I am not stupid.

I only used terms like "math backwards" and such so I don't have to type out a million different things. yes I am lazy.

All of those things are evidence, not proof. you said it your self, "point to the big bang theory" and thats all they do.

You are really missing my point. I'm not some 4bible thumper trying to make you believe in god. all I am trying to say is, the statement, "The big bang theory is what happened" is not ******* accurate. it is a THEORY, do you not understand what the **** that word means? It is not fact, it is not scientific law. not yet anyway.

im even an atheiest for crying out loud. you think we are having an arguement on religion vs science, when in fact I am discussing simple terminology and youre coming at me with "omg religion is stupid, science science middle school facts you wrong I am right, duh" good some of you people are just as stubborn as the buble thumpers.
#943 to #565 - arguement (11/18/2012) [-]
*argument
User avatar #944 to #943 - malinko (11/18/2012) [-]
really? waited that long to correct spelling?
#945 to #944 - arguement (11/18/2012) [-]
I don't check this account often. And going through 2050 mentions takes a long time
#661 to #565 - notnotkenny (10/20/2012) [-]
I am not trying to... all that stuff you said (I'm lazy too), I am simply stating how wrong it is to even begin comparing scientific theories with faith-based assumptions.
User avatar #481 to #475 - Bohya (10/20/2012) [-]
I'd rather trust in evidence science can bring me than... well...
User avatar #497 to #481 - malinko (10/20/2012) [-]
don't get me wrong, Im not siding here. I am simply stating a fact that the big bang theory is not 100% proven. there are many other scientific theories out there for the creation of the universe that doesn't have to do with some kind of god. string theory, circled theory, ect.

There is even a theory about an intelligent creator that has scientific merit. talks about mathmatical equitions similarities found in the natural world, and "the golden number" a ratio to which most things apply to. such as flowers, sea shells, even the human body.

What I'm getting at, is a true scientist keeps an open mind to all possibilities, even if it means exploring the possibility of a creator of the universe. closed minds are the ones that keep us in the dark.
#570 to #497 - trollieske (10/20/2012) [-]
1. no theory is ever 100% proven. The big bang theory isnt, evolution isnt, not even gravity. But we found data that points in their direction. All three theories are presented as facts in scientist communities today, even the big bang theory.

look up "Cosmic microwave background radiation" because this is some of the "proof" that show us that the big bang have happened.
(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_microwave_background_radiation)

2. quote from your post:
"What I'm getting at, is a true scientist keeps an open mind to all possibilities"

Science is openminded! its based on a principle that says: "Test what i've proven an infinite number of times. If it turns out im wrong lets try somthing else". This is based on rationallity and empirical evidence.

Religion is based on irrationality and faith and cannot be disproven. It has changed over the years. it is different in every culture. I bet if there is a god his believers died long time ago and we're all gonna burn in that religions "hell".

conclusion: I believe there are more closeminded religious people than people that "believe/trusts" science. And although im an atheist ill be happy to believe in a god if his existense is proven. But im not sure if im going to respect him if the bible is true.
User avatar #902 to #570 - malinko (10/21/2012) [-]
wow, i had a discussion on the internet with an opposing veiw point, and got no red thumbs. i call that faith in humanity restored.

good on you fellows
User avatar #574 to #570 - malinko (10/20/2012) [-]
fair enough.
#463 - LaughedatThat (10/20/2012) [-]
This post will create some arguments
This post will create some arguments
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