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Comments(813):
#723
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pedogod (10/20/2012) [-]
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#720
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sammygman (10/20/2012) [-]
people who don't know shit about what the big band theory is and saying its just as realistic as a magician who has always existed creating the universe in six days (because even though he's all powerful he has to rest) 6000 years ago. Apparently, the illiterate shepards who created these stories knew more about the universe 1000 years ago than we do now
Im not that religious but i think the big bang theory is just as unrealistic as God creating the Universe.
but then again, what DID create the Universe, nobody knows.
but then again, what DID create the Universe, nobody knows.
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semantic (10/20/2012) [-]
If the Big Bang is a theory, religion is nothing but fantasy
But religion is pretty resilient because people make money from it, and can fuck children.
In a thousand years, someone is going to dig up a dusty copy of The Lord of the Rings, and fucking believe the shit out of that.
If anything could be believable its the buddhism view, in the sense that our Universe is still accelerating away in all directions, and maybe itll stop someday and start to contract again. And when it reaches the point of having all the Universe's mass in an infinitesimal point, presto, new Big Bang.
But religion is pretty resilient because people make money from it, and can fuck children.
In a thousand years, someone is going to dig up a dusty copy of The Lord of the Rings, and fucking believe the shit out of that.
If anything could be believable its the buddhism view, in the sense that our Universe is still accelerating away in all directions, and maybe itll stop someday and start to contract again. And when it reaches the point of having all the Universe's mass in an infinitesimal point, presto, new Big Bang.
And that's why the big bang theory is a THEORY. Scientists think that the big bang was formulation of mass from another universe caused by blackholes. And when a blackhole gathers too much mass, it forms another plane of existence. And this plane of existence we live in is 4 dimensional, 3 space and 1 time dimensions.
"Scientists think that the big bang was formulation of mass from another universe caused by black holes"
Yeah, I'm gonna need you to quote a source on that.
If not, I'll need to call bullshit on this, considering that the multiverse hypothesis is backed by basically zero evidence. It's speculation at best.
Yeah, I'm gonna need you to quote a source on that.
If not, I'll need to call bullshit on this, considering that the multiverse hypothesis is backed by basically zero evidence. It's speculation at best.
It's one of many hypotheses that universes are born via wormholes connecting a black hole in one universe to a "white" hole in another universe, which explosively expands rather than contracting. There's no evidence for it and is not a true scientific theory, it's just a cool idea some scientists came up with.
Do you actually know what the big bang theory is?
Or do you just know it as 'there was an explosion and stuff started forming'
The big bang theory relates time to a dimension and in my favorite spin-off theories they imply that time itself created energy which made strings then quarks then atoms then everything in one large mound until eventually the gravity became so great it started to spasm while trying to contract until it became loose and shot apart (due to protons and electrons being extremely close to each other) which then through the materials out forming the universe
it's pretty awesome and you should go research it because this half ass run down doesnt do it justice
Or do you just know it as 'there was an explosion and stuff started forming'
The big bang theory relates time to a dimension and in my favorite spin-off theories they imply that time itself created energy which made strings then quarks then atoms then everything in one large mound until eventually the gravity became so great it started to spasm while trying to contract until it became loose and shot apart (due to protons and electrons being extremely close to each other) which then through the materials out forming the universe
it's pretty awesome and you should go research it because this half ass run down doesnt do it justice
Hey that's cool, and understandable. As someone that has done extensive research into the Big Bang and Multiverse theories, I can tell you that once you delve into these topics you will see how the Big Bang aligns with our observations of the universe. The movement of the galaxies away from a point, the HDF image, the "echo" of the bang we can still hear today in space, all contribute to its validity.
#693
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furyofthestorm (10/20/2012) [-]
Ok so
1. This is most likely a Catholic school. So stop bitching about the question.
2. How is this hurting the kids at all? Big bang Theory and god are pretty much the same damn thing. No matter how much you want to feel different. Their lives are not ruined if they believe god created the earth.
3. How does this increase your faith in humanity? If you believe in god you have no humanity? This is the "Tolerance" that everyone who doesn't have a religion is portraying?
4. This is FunnyJunk, not my religion/lack of religion is better than yoursjunk.
1. This is most likely a Catholic school. So stop bitching about the question.
2. How is this hurting the kids at all? Big bang Theory and god are pretty much the same damn thing. No matter how much you want to feel different. Their lives are not ruined if they believe god created the earth.
3. How does this increase your faith in humanity? If you believe in god you have no humanity? This is the "Tolerance" that everyone who doesn't have a religion is portraying?
4. This is FunnyJunk, not my religion/lack of religion is better than yoursjunk.
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Lulzilla (10/20/2012) [-]
Too me my problem with this question is the fact that it's a question. In a regular school this question wouldn't be asked in the manner. If it was at someone had written GOD then they wouldn't of been marked down for their own beliefs.
It's the fact that Christians and Catholics tend to shove their own ideology down peoples throats teaching them theirs only ONE answer and that answer is GOD.
It's the fact that Christians and Catholics tend to shove their own ideology down peoples throats teaching them theirs only ONE answer and that answer is GOD.
The Big Bang Theory and the Creationist Theory are easily 2 very different things. For one, the Time Scale is completely different.
Big Bang Theory: Earth was created over hundreds of years and life didn't exist on it for millions, even billions more.
Creationist Theory: Earth was created and filled with life in the tiny space of 6 days.
I can understand the Big Bang being doubted due to it's extreme improbability and lack of Physical evidence, but the same is true for Creationist Theory. There is no Physical evidence of a SuperNatural being that can do whatever it can imagine whenever it wants.
As for the question "Where did the matter for the Big Bang come from?" well, that's where Linear Multiverse Theory comes into play. A Linear Multiverse is a string of universes linked to one another by time. They exist in the same plane of existence, just in different time frames. It also states that a Universe that collapses on itself (AKA, A Big Crunch) can Re-Explode, giving birth to a brand new universe within it's own time frame.
Every word given above is pure theory. None of it has been 100% proven, because it just can't with the technology of today.
Big Bang Theory: Earth was created over hundreds of years and life didn't exist on it for millions, even billions more.
Creationist Theory: Earth was created and filled with life in the tiny space of 6 days.
I can understand the Big Bang being doubted due to it's extreme improbability and lack of Physical evidence, but the same is true for Creationist Theory. There is no Physical evidence of a SuperNatural being that can do whatever it can imagine whenever it wants.
As for the question "Where did the matter for the Big Bang come from?" well, that's where Linear Multiverse Theory comes into play. A Linear Multiverse is a string of universes linked to one another by time. They exist in the same plane of existence, just in different time frames. It also states that a Universe that collapses on itself (AKA, A Big Crunch) can Re-Explode, giving birth to a brand new universe within it's own time frame.
Every word given above is pure theory. None of it has been 100% proven, because it just can't with the technology of today.
There's a world of difference between looking at the evidence present and from that working out how the first few moment of the universe's existence went about and saying "God made it with magic".
The big bang theory regards very specifically the expansion from the initial singularity, and does not officially explain how it all started. There are hypothesises regarding the beginning of it al of course (Here's a presentation of one of them www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo ), but none of them are even near being supported by such a massive amount of evidence as the big bang theory itself.
There's a huuuuge difference between saying "Here's how it looks like matter and energy acted for the first few seconds of the universe's existence." and going "suppose there's this supernatural being with omnipotent powers..."
If you want to compare the big bang theory to God, chances are you need to read up on the theory.
And if you think it violates the second law of thermodynamics, my previous statment is that much more amplified.
Do you honestly think serious scientists - some of the smartest people on earth with the most accurate knowledge of the laws of physics - would support the big bang theory if it violated one of the most basic laws of the universe?
machineslikeus.com/news/big-bang-beginners-14-does-big-bang-theory-violate-second-law-thermodynamics
Don't tell me you also believe that the theory of evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics?
The big bang theory regards very specifically the expansion from the initial singularity, and does not officially explain how it all started. There are hypothesises regarding the beginning of it al of course (Here's a presentation of one of them www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo ), but none of them are even near being supported by such a massive amount of evidence as the big bang theory itself.
There's a huuuuge difference between saying "Here's how it looks like matter and energy acted for the first few seconds of the universe's existence." and going "suppose there's this supernatural being with omnipotent powers..."
If you want to compare the big bang theory to God, chances are you need to read up on the theory.
And if you think it violates the second law of thermodynamics, my previous statment is that much more amplified.
Do you honestly think serious scientists - some of the smartest people on earth with the most accurate knowledge of the laws of physics - would support the big bang theory if it violated one of the most basic laws of the universe?
machineslikeus.com/news/big-bang-beginners-14-does-big-bang-theory-violate-second-law-thermodynamics
Don't tell me you also believe that the theory of evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics?
I seriously doubt any teacher could get away with that if they weren't in catholic school
The test doesn't say circle the correct answer, it says cirlce the MOST correct answer. I don't think that this was a geography test like the post says but rather some kind of intelligence test or understanding test. When the question asks 'The earth was created by...' God is the most correct answer as in roman mythology zeus and hercules were the son and grandson of a titan and did not create the earth, And as aliens are supposed to be life on other planets they did not create the earth either.
TL;DR things may not be what they seem.
TL;DR things may not be what they seem.
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sanepane (10/20/2012) [-]
Metaphor time: Which of these is a fruit?
A)broccoli
B)lettuce
C) Holy Galgelrad -banana of Divine Godhood (Mentioned in Divine Book of Galgelrad (also concidered to be invisible to human eye, unless it chooses to appear))
D) Alien Apple (from outer spaceeeee)
The girl wrote down E) Lemon
Simple, no?
A)broccoli
B)lettuce
C) Holy Galgelrad -banana of Divine Godhood (Mentioned in Divine Book of Galgelrad (also concidered to be invisible to human eye, unless it chooses to appear))
D) Alien Apple (from outer spaceeeee)
The girl wrote down E) Lemon
Simple, no?
the question is stupid and so is the alternatives. Zeus and Hercules according to the myths didn't create Earth so we can leave them out, but you can't deny that aliens created Earth, because there's just as much proof of aliens as there is of God (none). I think God seems like the most "believable" answer (I'm an Agnostic-atheist), but you can't still say that it's the most correct
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poontanglife (10/20/2012) [-]
Sure... i can see the sense in that. However i dont know if its an american thing, but a test question like this is something i would never see in a normal danish school.
The ''most'' correct answer? What if the student was a muslim?
The ''most'' correct answer? What if the student was a muslim?
This is a geography test, which -should- be more about what the earth is, not where it came from.
This question was inappropriate. Children are pretty much forced to chose 'God' regardless of what they would believe, and what is right.
This is sorta like a question I got on a quiz once about what gives a person the most morally correct backbone.
The questions were:
A: being raised Jewish
B: Being raised by a christian midwestern family
C: Growing up in a large city
D: Growing up with a homosexual family.
The right answer was B.
This question was inappropriate. Children are pretty much forced to chose 'God' regardless of what they would believe, and what is right.
This is sorta like a question I got on a quiz once about what gives a person the most morally correct backbone.
The questions were:
A: being raised Jewish
B: Being raised by a christian midwestern family
C: Growing up in a large city
D: Growing up with a homosexual family.
The right answer was B.
they can't have such an subjective like that in school. I mean unless it's a Catholic school, but even then, they can't force you to believe.
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tweetyftw **User deleted account** (10/20/2012) [-]
Whatever kind of education your daughter is in, you need to get her out of that as fast as possible. Shit like this is exactly why people want religion out of law and education.
#643
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MasterManiac (10/20/2012) [-]
The Big Bang Theory. Anyone who actually knows shit about science will know that leading physicists, including for example Sir Roger Penrose, doubt that The Big Bang actually happened, and are working on other theories such as universal inflation or the collapse of a previous universe to cause our own.
Most of them believe that our universe is part of something greater, known as the multi-verse theory or that our universe did not come from a tiny singularity, but that our universe was formed from the collapse of a previous universe. Using a combination of quantum mechanics and gravitational laws it is quite possible that under the collapse of a previous universe could have caused gravity to become a repulsive rather than attractive force, which then explains the expansion of our universe.
I don't think there is a 'probably' when it comes to where the universe is created. Saying probably is sorta like looking into the deepest part of the ocean and not seeing anything below and saying 'there probably isn't anything down there.'
It's something that can't be tested and that we can't possibly know for sure (so far.) Right now, the only information I know about this is that 1: Atoms and molecules can change their behavior based on whether or not they are being observed and 2: Molecules in the air have been observed to 'pop' in and out of existence.
I mean, from that I can't really form an opinion. I wont even pretend I know what the hell is going on.
It's something that can't be tested and that we can't possibly know for sure (so far.) Right now, the only information I know about this is that 1: Atoms and molecules can change their behavior based on whether or not they are being observed and 2: Molecules in the air have been observed to 'pop' in and out of existence.
I mean, from that I can't really form an opinion. I wont even pretend I know what the hell is going on.
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doyoulikeapizza (10/20/2012) [-]
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