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User avatar #1011 - weejer (09/22/2012) [-]
bunch a liberals on funnyjunk
#1009 - anonymous (09/22/2012) [-]
I see no funny. No thumb for you
User avatar #1008 - drtrousersnake (09/22/2012) [-]
anyone else think that the teenager one was kinda stupid?
User avatar #1007 - jikario (09/22/2012) [-]
Really OP? The dude talks about a specific statistic of people who purposefully dodge taxes and you assume he means America as a whole, INCLUDING people that are exempt from taxes for (Mosty) viable reasons?

You don't think he THOUGHT about that when he said that? You don't think he has basic ******* logical deduction to uninclude special cases as such? The man wasn't a governor or anything. Not like he ******* graduate top of his class in law school.

And SOME of these categories can be excluded from your little " **** you" List because they're non sequitur fallacies.

>Im a teenager
First off, Teenagers attending highschool and also working at minimum wage don't pay taxes because its ASSUMED they will save up for ******* COLLEGE. Not just because they're teenagers. You don't have to have a job. you can pull out loans and go to college. Not his fault you're in the low-wage loop.

>Two people - We don't make enough money to qualify for income tax
Bull. ****** . **** . OP obviously doesn't know about how tax brackets work.

>Im a baby.
Babies aren't ******* included in that statistic, because they're not legally considered Emancipated citizens by about, oh, 18 ******* years.
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#1005 - freight (09/22/2012) [-]
politics on Funnyjunk?
politics on Funnyjunk?
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#994 - anonymous (09/22/2012) [-]
Wow, all of these people have intense political opinions and very good reasons on why they hate the opposing party's candidate.

And I'm just sitting here masturbating.
#993 - neoexdeath ONLINE (09/22/2012) [-]
Obama sucks. Romney sucks...Both major parties suck...

...Did somebody order a revolution?

Hey, ideas are bull-...What the **** do you mean "Other guy with the mask" I'm the ******* or...Knives? No, I've got none of that **** ...No, I don't have long hair under the mask...What the **** do you mean 'V was better'? Yknow what, fine. You ingrates can start your own damn revolution. I'm outta here.
#989 - anonymous (09/22/2012) [-]
I hate both Romney and Obama, but I do have to note that while Romney paid like a 14% tax rate? Obama paid like a 15% tax rate. They're in the same ******* bracket. They're both ******* rich. Can we please get over it? The Obamas are millionaires too.
#985 - anonymous (09/22/2012) [-]
why do we have a government **** the government **** obama **** mitt and **** democracy, why cant we just live in an anarchy i dont give a **** about the dangers and downsides, at least nothing would matter.
#1003 to #985 - freight (09/22/2012) [-]
its called Somalia, youd love it there!
#991 to #985 - asdfjklsemicolon (09/22/2012) [-]
wow, that was the most ignorant thing i've ever heard.
User avatar #987 to #985 - legendry (09/22/2012) [-]
dammit forgot to sign in
#1026 to #987 - drasticdragon (09/22/2012) [-]
you fool
#983 - shootforbrains (09/22/2012) [-]
what's the problem with america again?
User avatar #979 - bruce lee (09/22/2012) [-]
This post is ******* retarded, I don't support anybody but what he meant is that there's rednecks that make the government their bitch and make it their lifestyle to live off of foodstamps and WORK less hours to qualify for all that ******** .

I'm from the ghetto and my mom used to work her ass off with 3 kids by herself WITHOUT any government help and paid her taxes. The point he's making is that some people are ******* lazy.
#976 - bathoryhannibal (09/22/2012) [-]
I work in a domestic violence shelter, many of the women there do not have jobs or work experience when they come in because their abusers threatened to kill them if they left the house. As a result they end up working low paying jobs, and do not pay federal income taxes. Any person that does not care about them is not the type of person I want in a position of power.

I hate being political, but his comments really pissed me off.
User avatar #997 to #976 - psydoc (09/22/2012) [-]
These types of arguments get really old. Romney points out that some people believe they are entitled to live off the rest of us, so liberals go to the most extreme examples of people who really need help and act like that's what he was talking about. Nobody wants to screw over victims of domestic violence - nobody. Nobody.


Nobody.
#1004 to #997 - bathoryhannibal (09/22/2012) [-]
First of all, I am not liberal. In fact, I was planning on voting for him until he made these comments, now I am not sure. Secondly, my point was that he was overgeneralizing a complex problem. I was just using an example from my personal experience to emphasize that point.
User avatar #1300 to #1004 - psydoc (09/22/2012) [-]
His point was that people who don't pay income taxes are going to tend to not get excited about cutting taxes. His other point was that Obama has core supporters who believe in what he's selling and will never switch.
#1302 to #1300 - bathoryhannibal (09/22/2012) [-]
That was the overarching message, but it was his remark about them not taking personal responsibility for their lives that bothered me.
User avatar #1306 to #1302 - psydoc (09/22/2012) [-]
Some people don't, and the Obama message is that you're a victim, nothing is your fault, and there's nothing you can do about your situation unless government helps you out. That's what I find offensive.
#1308 to #1306 - bathoryhannibal (09/22/2012) [-]
Personally I think both of them are overgeneralizing the issue, but I would rather help someone that is going to abuse it than deny help to someone that will be able to turn their life around with it. Rather than blaming each other, they should be looking for ways to close the loophole that people abuse.
User avatar #1309 to #1308 - psydoc (09/23/2012) [-]
Absolutely they're overgeneralizing the issues, because that's what the vast majority of people want to hear. Look at Sarah Palin, I don't hate her like some people do, but when I watched her speech at the republican convention I said it was a poor speech, but most people on the right loved it. After a while I realized what I didn't like about hearing her talk. I never learn anything when she speaks. She pretty much only repeats things other people have already said, but that's the thing. Lots of people only want to hear what they already think. Thus our politicians wind up dumbing it down. Look at Obama, he always makes visual representations of what he's trying to say like, we're trying to push the car out of the ditch, and they're telling us we're doing it wrong. That's as much as the people he's talking to can understand.

It's sad, and we can only blame ourselves.

BTW Obama loosened the work requirements for welfare. The big accomplishment during the Clinton kim jongistration was reforming welfare, and now we took a step back in the other direction. You can look at the details yourself and decide whether or not you think it's a big deal.
User avatar #974 - kingnarnode (09/22/2012) [-]
OP- Hi Mitt, I actually don't know what the **** I'm talking about because I'm a ******* idiot that knows nothing about politics, so I'm just gonna shut the **** up because I don't have a job and don't pay taxes
#971 - fattyslut (09/22/2012) [-]
MITT ROMNEY IS THE GREATEST MAN THAT HAS EVER LIVED YOU MORON!!! HE WILL SAVE THIS COUNTRY!!

now that I have your atttention: I just know that here in cali, a lot of people really do use welfare even though they could find work. I don't blame them though, why work when you're unemployment is free, there's no incentive.

But yea anyone with as much money as mitt can never represent the people. So **** him. **** obama too. **** everybody, I want to be the president. . . .. **** me. I WANT TO BE LOVED!
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User avatar #957 - severepwner (09/22/2012) [-]
Someone should make a negative post about Obama. I mean come on, he's said retarded things and done stupid stuff. Let's even out the bias shall we?
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#1192 to #1025 - tehjman (09/22/2012) [-]
Here's just a few:

"I've now been in 57 states -- I think one left to go." --at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon

"In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died -- an entire town destroyed." --on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people
"When I meet with world leaders, what's striking -- whether it's in Europe or here in Asia..." -mistakenly referring to Hawaii as Asia while holding a press conference outside Honolulu, Nov. 16, 2011

"One such translator was an American of Haitian descent, representative of the extraordinary work that our men and women in uniform do all around the world -- Navy Corpse-Man Christian Brossard." –mispronouncing "Corpsman" (the "ps" is silent) during a speech at the National Prayer Breakfast, Washington, D.C., Feb. 5, 2010 (The Corpsman's name is also Christopher, not Christian)
"It was also interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There's a lot of -- I don't know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing." --confusing German for "Austrian," a language which does not exist, Strasbourg, France, April 6, 2009

"No, no. I have been practicing...I bowled a 129. It's like -- it was like Special Olympics, or something." --making an off-hand joke during an appearance on "The Tonight Show", March 19, 2009
"What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith..." --in an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos, who jumped in to correct Obama by saying "your Christian faith," which Obama quickly clarified

"I'm here with the Girardo family here in St. Louis." --speaking via satellite to the Democratic National Convention, while in Kansas City, Missouri, Aug. 25, 2008


I'll respect people's myriad political opinions all day. But when they try to act like their candidate's **** doesn't stink that's when the Jimmies get Maximum Over-Rustled
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User avatar #978 to #957 - meowtroll (09/22/2012) [-]
except there is a reason why Republicans are usually the ones that say/do stupid **** .
Ex: Romney, Bush, Yoder, Akin (kansas)
User avatar #1036 to #978 - severepwner (09/22/2012) [-]
True they're always out there. What I'm saying is, if we direct all political insults to Republicans and Conservatives, well then we're no better than Fox news are we?
User avatar #973 to #957 - rotosushi (09/22/2012) [-]
sure just as soon as we come up with as many as mitt
User avatar #954 - melonwaffle (09/22/2012) [-]
Funnyjunk, wat are you doing, funnyjunk, stahp
#943 - sittingwhale (09/22/2012) [-]
OP youve listed a pretty good sampling of the exceptions. these people are not a majority of the 47% though. its the people that cheat the system or are on welfare but are perfectly able to work and dont. do a little thinking :)
User avatar #955 to #943 - emptysuperman (09/22/2012) [-]
The people you listed make up an even smaller portion of the 47%. And "do a little thinking" is not a legitimate argument.
User avatar #965 to #955 - Zirkle (09/22/2012) [-]
Alright, try do a little research so you know he's correct, over 30% of the 47% are people perfectly capable of living within their means, but don't.
#1014 to #965 - anonymous (09/22/2012) [-]
No, sir, I am sorry to disagree with you. The 30% you say are perfectly able to living within their means are actually not able to. The fraction of people that fall in that category is much less than that. For starters, they might be "Physically and mentally able to work" But that doesn't mean they are able to find decent work. Considering the medical standards that are in place for the assessment of the status "Physically and mentally able" only means that your IQ is abou 70 and that you are able to lift about 20 pounds without experiencing problems physically (provided you dont have any medical conditions that might prevent you from doing that, such as a missing limb or an illness) . SO! this status doesnt include education, it doesnt include career choice (if he did study in college), and it doesnt include amount made. If the person isnt educated, it cant find a good job so said person cant pay taxes. if a person did study but chose a career that is very competitive, he wont find a job and cant pay taxes. If the person did find a professional job but its low paying then he cant pay taxes. this are just some examples.

That means that, even though they are "physically and mentally able", about 10 to 20% of the so called 47% are unable to pay taxes due to technical difficulties, not because they want to . Adding to that the amount of disabled people, working students, elderly people, and the people in the army, it makes up for nearly all of the so called 47%. There is no doubt that there are cheaters and theives that take advantage of the system, but the majority is not them.
User avatar #1030 to #1014 - Zirkle (09/22/2012) [-]
But they do, they pay taxes through payroll, which in turn, just makes it where they don't owe at the end of the year, I get what your saying, but you are misconstruing my point. Those who are capable of living within their means, but don't is whom I am talking about, not those who ARE, and just got dealt a ****** hand.
#975 to #965 - emptysuperman (09/22/2012) [-]
Are you ******* retarded? Like 25% of America is under 18, which is included in the 47%. 47-30 is 17, 17<25... you see the problem ******** ? Did you just pull 30% out of your ass cuz it sounded nice or did you hear that off of Fox News?
User avatar #988 to #975 - Zirkle (09/22/2012) [-]
I'm the retard? You're trying to claim they include people under 18 in the polls they use for government assistance and eligible voters. If you want something challenging go count something, don't just jump into politics.
#970 to #965 - sittingwhale (09/22/2012) [-]
thank you sir
User avatar #1049 to #970 - Zirkle (09/22/2012) [-]
Just trying to keep the internet somewhat honest man. I'm glad you're smart enough to see through this **** .
#1082 to #1049 - sittingwhale (09/22/2012) [-]
yea man.. also, look at the ********* i seem to have unleashed. LOL
User avatar #1326 to #1082 - Zirkle (09/28/2012) [-]
Mob mentality man, Majority of fj users don't know what to think themselves, so they go with whoever displays their belief in the easiest way to comprehend. which is usually the ones who are wrong, thus why they lash out incorrect facts in anger.
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