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Comments(1682):
#1426
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stubborndrek (09/12/2012) [-]
Incoming opinion:
Heard some shit that days before the attack, there was construction happening on certain floors. Perhaps they loaded explosives on the supports. That's just shit I heard from documentaries and shit. HOWEVER, none of this bullshit of "GEORGE BUSH DID IT!" makes sense... Riiiiight... I'm sure our government is trying to kill us... Makes sense. Again, just some shit I've heard.
Heard some shit that days before the attack, there was construction happening on certain floors. Perhaps they loaded explosives on the supports. That's just shit I heard from documentaries and shit. HOWEVER, none of this bullshit of "GEORGE BUSH DID IT!" makes sense... Riiiiight... I'm sure our government is trying to kill us... Makes sense. Again, just some shit I've heard.
Its not like the huge plane hitting it then exploding was a big factor
#1423
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boiledjellybeans **User deleted account** (09/12/2012) [-]
It's a sad day to live among you guys. You've brought shame to the fj community. :(
Someone forgot to add weight and structural damage to the equation...
Yea i understood the tone, just needed a second to get the quote.
This isnt the exact article, but it says it quite a few times that the calculations and planning before 9/11 added up to say that the WTC could handle a 100mph wind, plane crash, or bomb. And i quote "little likelihood of a collapse no matter how the building was attacked"
This isnt the exact article, but it says it quite a few times that the calculations and planning before 9/11 added up to say that the WTC could handle a 100mph wind, plane crash, or bomb. And i quote "little likelihood of a collapse no matter how the building was attacked"
...wait, i thought it's the plane collision that causes the collapsing?
No it was the collision that started the domino trail, however the heat caused by the jet fuel severely weakened the structure. Considering the twin towers were much heavier built with key center beams that if damaged, would cause entire floors to collapse. You also have to remember that a large portion of the WTC wasn't planned, it was increased in height later on and the addition wasn't as detail oriented as it should have been.
>OP is a tinfoil hat
>Do you even physics and temperature/heat capacity knowledge?
>Do you even physics and temperature/heat capacity knowledge?
#1404
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ryderjamesbudde (09/12/2012) [-]
"HUR, DUR. THE PLANES HAD JET FUEL IN THEM, THAT'S WHY THE TOWER FELL PERFECTLY INTO ITSELF."
Max burning temp of jet fuel: 260-315 degrees Celsius.
Melting point of steel: around 1,000-1,500 degrees Celsius depending on type of steel.
Also, a plane hitting the top of a building wouldn't make the whole thing fall down. If it did, it would fall over, not in.
Max burning temp of jet fuel: 260-315 degrees Celsius.
Melting point of steel: around 1,000-1,500 degrees Celsius depending on type of steel.
Also, a plane hitting the top of a building wouldn't make the whole thing fall down. If it did, it would fall over, not in.
#1459 to #1421
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ryderjamesbudde (09/12/2012) [-]
There's really no possible way to transfer all of the energy in the plane and distribute it evenly among all of the supporting structures inside of the building and then have it collapse perfectly.
The fires would have done no damage to the skeleton whatsoever, the only real damage would have come from the impact, which was on one of the uppermost floors, and the damage was only on one side of the building. If the impact was enough to bring down the building, it would have happened immediately, as the jet fuel fires would have had virtually no effect on the steel.
The fires would have done no damage to the skeleton whatsoever, the only real damage would have come from the impact, which was on one of the uppermost floors, and the damage was only on one side of the building. If the impact was enough to bring down the building, it would have happened immediately, as the jet fuel fires would have had virtually no effect on the steel.
Nothing falls in on itself except for controlled demolitions. If you throw things at towers, they will fall over. You can't build something to fall in on itself when it is hit by a plane (or other flying object) you can only set it up to be demolished to fall in on itself. (such as cuts in the support beams that run up the center of the tower, explosions at the base of the tower that were heard by firefighters in the bottom floor and people who were escaping from the lobby)
I hate conspiracy-fags like this. Let's just skip the part where a fucking plane crashed into the building and then the jet fuel burning inside all that time. Yeah, it's totally not gonna weaken it. Shut the fuck up, retards.
WTC had planes fly directly into them damaging whatever steal beams were holding it up.
Our government is too retarded to make this a conspiracy that has been covered up for so long.
Our government is too retarded to make this a conspiracy that has been covered up for so long.
#1397
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N. Korean citizen (09/12/2012) [-]
people are morons, the WTC was BUILT TO WITHSTAND A 747 HITTING THE SIDE OF IT... it was the most important building's in NYC thermite bombs caused the collapse
i could be wrong and forgive me if i am but wouldn't the plane take out some major structural beams of the building
#1395
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fishford (09/12/2012) [-]
you realize in the U.S. we've been utilizing light weight building construction since about the 70's right? While this method works fine when the building isn't under fire conditions, it fails quickly once exposed to the heat stress of a fire. Before you start being an idiot and claiming this was a government conspiracy, learn your shit. Maybe take a building construction class as it relates to the fire service, they break down the construction of the twin towers and what exactly failed and why. Lastly, show some damn respect for those who gave there lives that day. People ran in that day exhibiting as much courage as humanly possible. Even in wars, people know they may die or get shot, but the people who went in on 9/11 knew and expected that they would be killed. They went in anyways because they knew they would be able to get more people out and that more lives would be saved than just there's and that's about the greatest show of humanity and sacrifice that there has ever been.
#1393
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N. Korean citizen (09/12/2012) [-]
when they built the wwc in '72 they used hollow lead pipe not steel as bracing between floors, that combined with the lack of flame retardant lead to the buckling of the tubes and one floor collapsed on to the one below it with the pressure of all the floors above it, that collapsed the floor below that one. it was a chain reaction caused by the collapse of the floor above it.
Now, it couldn't possibly been because a plane crashed the fuck into the WTC? No, that can't be.
Its not like a giant metal object carrying thousands of gallons of fuel rammed into the side of the WTC vaporizing a section of it causing the top half to fall on top and crush the rest of it causing a collapse. Oh, wait
#1387
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sighkopff (09/12/2012) [-]
HUUURRRRR DURRRRRR
FIre and heat + A fucking airplane crashing into it =/= Fire and heat.
FIre and heat + A fucking airplane crashing into it =/= Fire and heat.