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Comments(1689):
#1058
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fixxxer (09/11/2012) [-]
I'd like to think that the world isn't SO fucked that this could be a conspiracy, but there are somethings that just don't make any fucking sense. One of the things that I can't wrap my head around is they tell everyone the same kind of plane, whatever it was, the fuel from the crash can take down the towers, and even a building that -wasn't hit by the plane directly- but when the damn plane hit the pentigon, the pics clearly show a BOOK on a chair.. that didn't even burn up, and a monitor on a filing cab, with the glass intact and plastic perfect looking. Shit like that makes you wonder.
I actually found the pic, I circled the things. Makes you wonder.
I actually found the pic, I circled the things. Makes you wonder.
Look at the location of the monitors.
Now from a distance it looks like they are fine,however i bet upon closer inspection I can say they were destroyed.
The Pentagon was designed to take nukes and survive. A Boeing 757 weighs over 200 tons loaded up.
Air also isn't the best of conductors.
Also,the WTC was not designed as a hardend structure. It wasn't the fire that catastrophically destroyed them. It was the impact of 300 tons of planes flying into them.
Now from a distance it looks like they are fine,however i bet upon closer inspection I can say they were destroyed.
The Pentagon was designed to take nukes and survive. A Boeing 757 weighs over 200 tons loaded up.
Air also isn't the best of conductors.
Also,the WTC was not designed as a hardend structure. It wasn't the fire that catastrophically destroyed them. It was the impact of 300 tons of planes flying into them.
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fixxxer (09/11/2012) [-]
All I'm saying is if it could take down steel and a massive building, and the planes went right in, wouldn't the pentagon be more fucked up then it is.. I'm not saying the theories are right, or the gov is telling the truth, whatever happened happened, I'm not trying to defend the theories, it's simply something I found that stuck me.
Its not I am the same way lol. Thats why I search for answers. Loot at my reply to OPs retardation: I am studying to become a civil engineer so listen up you retard. The building in madrid did not have a plane crash into it, causing major damage even before the fire. When the plane crashed, jet fuel leaked down and started fires as well as the original fireball that shot through the building via the elevator shafts, causing major damage to the buildings supports. The jet fuel, fueled hotter fires than that of the Madrid building. The WTC had older fire fighting technology than the Madrid building. The WTC was also under more stress from the extra weight of other floors. The buildings used a tube support system which was only on the perimeter and core of the building, it had no extra support columns on the floors unlike the building in madrid which is why the madrid building survived. The WTC lacked modern insolation and it was being upgraded but at the time of the crash, only levels up to 18 had been fire-proofed. I also love how you leave out the fact that the building survived a major truck bomb (1,500 pounds of explosives) in the basement of it or the 1975 fire in the north tower that ravaged several floors of the building. Before you post retarded counter-arguments OP, know that you are getting yourself into.
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fixxxer (09/11/2012) [-]
Dude fire is fire, I know the pentagon is a tank of a building, but still. I've HAD a house fire, and EVEN in the side of the house the fire DIDN'T reach, the closest room TO the fire, plastic was melted and the books to the closest wall where wilted. it's just interesting to see that in the pic, don't get all fucking "derp it's a fortress" I KNOW that.
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fixxxer (09/11/2012) [-]
I dunno dude. I'm just saying, they said the jet fuel melted the steel of the WTC, why isn't all that shit burned? Or, if the fuel didn't make it "in" the building, and was say, spilled outside, why wasn't the grass or shit burned? They should take the time to answer that small shit, which will squash the conspiracy theories ya know?
I'm prepared to get red thumbs but I just have to say that they removed the structure from the scene remarkably quick and didn't study it there. If that is the first modern structure to fall due to fire (even with an airplane flying into it), why wasn't it studied closer as to what the x factor was that made it pancake in less than two hours
Okay, is this uploader a proxy fag or something? Seriously, why is this thumbed up?
"9/11 Truther convinced government destroyed the last 11 years of his life"
-Onion headline
-Onion headline
jet fuel burns hotter than office supplies and such you paranoid fuckheads
#1037
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N. Korean citizen (09/11/2012) [-]
The reason the twin towers fell was because either the plane or explosion incinerated the concrete covering the steel, which means that the steal had direct contact with the heal immediately, unlike the other building.
I am studying to become a civil engineer so listen up you retard. The building in madrid did not have a plane crash into it, causing major damage even before the fire. When the plane crashed, jet fuel leaked down and started fires as well as the original fireball that shot through the building via the elevator shafts, causing major damage to the buildings supports. The jet fuel, fueled hotter fires than that of the Madrid building. The WTC had older fire fighting technology than the Madrid building. The WTC was also under more stress from the extra weight of other floors. The buildings used a tube support system which was only on the perimeter and core of the building, it had no extra support columns on the floors unlike the building in madrid which is why the madrid building survived. The WTC lacked modern insolation and it was being upgraded but at the time of the crash, only levels up to 18 had been fire-proofed. I also love how you leave out the fact that the building survived a major truck bomb (1,500 pounds of explosives) in the basement of it or the 1975 fire in the north tower that ravaged several floors of the building. Before you post retarded counter-arguments OP, know that you are getting yourself into.
It was damaged after debris from the collapsing towers struck it. This sparked fires which raged for several hours until the heat eventually got through the insolation and collapsed the structure. Why did this happen to begin with, the buildings fire sprinkler system was not automatic and rather a single point system with a lot of potential for breaks in the system caused by damage from the collapsing towers, which is what happened. The FDNY was actually making significant progress in putting the fires out until they heard creaking and saw cracks appear along the building, indicating a large potential for collapse. They stopped fire fighting and evacuating fearing an imminent collapse. The falling debris had damaged a section of the building. This caused an extra load to be put on the other supports. After being severly weakened by fire, it eventually collapsed.
The claim that the collapse was the result of a fire requires the fire be equally distributed throughout the entire floor of the building, providing equal heat for an equal amount of time, so that all the load bearings members would fail at the exact same moment.
Do you find this plausible?
Do you find this plausible?
You're the man bro. You are the man. I have watched Why the Towers Fell and have watched videos of real qualified engineers showing how the truthers give only minute details and I love when people like you come in and shut them the fuck down. Again, thank you.
I am honestly just a Junior in Public High School in Brooklyn, ny. lol. I am not an engineer. i plan on becoming a civil engineer though and studying at buffalo university. I am always fascinated with structural failures and naturally I have done a bit of research on the WTC as well as the Titanic, Galloping Gertie, The I-35 Bridge collapse, and the Hindenburg disaster
you must have a true mental problem..Over 1700 architects & engineers are finally coming forward demanding a new investigation for 9/11 if you disagree watch this video I PROMISE you will find the truth out www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddz2mw2vaEg
Dear god another one. Heres my video responce: www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5mLjKI968g
there was a bit of a steel frame left on the bottom of it.
the aircraft crashed into the top 30 floors of both building, if this was to cause the building to collapse it would have done so immediately, or just the top 30 floors. yet after an hour of burning which did nothing harm the buildings structural integrity, the building randomly collapses.
It was a fucking skyscraper.
200,000lbs of metal with 15,000 gallons of fuel flying at well over 400 mph.
I used to live outside a military base, over 7 miles away. They would fire artillery occasionally and it would make absolutely everything in my house shake. Sometimes planes would fly over, c-130's and such, and things would lightly vibrate.
I cannot fathom the immensity of an aircraft impact into something. If you watch the video, it fell in the direction most damaged.
200,000lbs of metal with 15,000 gallons of fuel flying at well over 400 mph.
I used to live outside a military base, over 7 miles away. They would fire artillery occasionally and it would make absolutely everything in my house shake. Sometimes planes would fly over, c-130's and such, and things would lightly vibrate.
I cannot fathom the immensity of an aircraft impact into something. If you watch the video, it fell in the direction most damaged.
The World Trade Center was hit by a plane, which shot a fireball throughout the building and through the elevator shaft. The plane's jet fuel then melted the frame of the building which then buckled and collapsed. The windsor tower also wasn't nearly as tall as the WTC. Also, the Windsor Tower suffered from a fire, not a Jet fueled (a thermite mixture) explosion and sustained flame afterwards. Do you really think the US government is stupid enough to leave loopholes in the plan?
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jtastic (09/11/2012) [-]
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