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#201 - xredsoxmuffin
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(07/27/2012) [-]
The reason why he doesn't care is because he's not American, why does it matter to him? He shouldn't have an opinion on news in the US.
The reason why he doesn't care is because he's not American, why does it matter to him? He shouldn't have an opinion on news in the US.
#202 to #201 - xredsoxmuffin
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(07/27/2012) [-]
Also, its to be expected that an American shooting should appear on FOX news because guess what? FOX is an American news station, NO WAI I KNW RITE!!!!!1!!
#149 - USSR
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(07/25/2012) [-]
this is just what i love to hear from people in another country they say america does all this **** but they do it to every ******* countries a hypocrite but dont like to admit it and put all the blame on america real mature of you guys
#133 - sventrain
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(07/25/2012) [-]
I'm an american and I agree how ****** up my country is, but we aren't all that stupid. But intelligence is a minority now. Also, it's going to be impossible to try and take guns away from Americans, but if people would just lock their **** up properly there kids wouldn't get them. Or just not sell guns to people with an IQ less then 100 buy them.
#134 to #133 - sventrain
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(07/25/2012) [-]
"But intelligence is a minority." Start sentence with but. mfw
"But intelligence is a minority." Start sentence with but. mfw
#145 to #134 - zajac
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(07/25/2012) [-]
Your highest level of education is middle school?
Your highest level of education is middle school?
#130 - cabig
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(07/25/2012) [-]
Nice point that 12 people killed are not worth a ****, but 82 are. I guess 82 is better than the nazis not caring about the all the people they killed in concentration camps.
#109 - jokeface
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(07/25/2012) [-]
A. I watched whole video because his accent made it compelling.

B. Inequality, conflict, violence, and hate are essential to the human race, essential to our existence on this planet. Any notion of world peace is both laughable and pitiful. And this is true whether you're religious or atheist, because most religious people believe in heaven, and if there is a heaven then it means that's the only place peace can truly exist, and so there NEEDS to be war and misery on Earth. If you believe in evolution, then violence and conflict are necessary for our species to get rid of the ****** people and make room for a more advanced race. Either way, you're idea of equality and peace is a joke.

C. This guy is right about the sociopaths watching the news and gaining inspiration from these massacres. But there's nothing we can do to stop it, because even without broadcasting these news stories, those sociopaths will still be sociopathic, and they'll find another reason to kill people.

D. The human race needs to be exterminated. I don't care if you're religious or atheist, personally I'm Christian, and so I believe that God will destroy the world one day. I'm talking about the entire world. Not just the "bad" people. Everyone. Every goddamned piece of flesh on this planet needs to be killed. Why? Because as long as there are people on Earth, they will fight about something. If it's not one thing it's another. Conflict is human nature, and it's part of what drives our existence. Without fighting, we die anyway. There will always be war and suffering as long as we thrive. The only way to gain peace for yourself is to die, and the only way for the world to gain peace is for every human to die.
#112 to #109 - SenorButtPlug
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(07/25/2012) [-]
>says sociopaths will continue to be sociopaths, they are beyond help
>says human race should be annihilated

btw your points are flawed.
#113 to #112 - jokeface
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(07/25/2012) [-]
i don't understand how those two statements contradict each other.
#115 to #113 - SenorButtPlug
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(07/25/2012) [-]
They don't. But if you're going to have an opinion on sociopaths then you might not want to be one yourself.
#120 to #115 - jokeface
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(07/25/2012) [-]
why? wouldn't a discussion about sociopaths be more enlightened by the input of one?
#122 to #120 - SenorButtPlug
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(07/25/2012) [-]
Not enlightened. More entertaining, but not enlightened.
#123 to #122 - jokeface
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(07/25/2012) [-]
i can see why you call my sociopathic for my views, but i don't consider myself mentally ill. these are just thoughts and ideologies. i don't act on them. i know enough to keep them in the back of my head and only bring them out in relevant conversation. but i'm quite sane.
#124 to #123 - SenorButtPlug
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(07/25/2012) [-]
You hold a viewpoint that is detrimental to the human race, and this is only ok if you keep it completely to yourself. If you bring up your fantasies of human destruction in any sort of serious conversation, and try to back it up with logic, someone as misguided as yourself may agree with you. It is a possibility that they might not be as mentally stable as you, and they might act on your logic. The propagation of the ideas that you hold, even if you do not act on them, is still sociopathic.
#126 to #124 - jokeface
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(07/25/2012) [-]
well then i hereby declare myself a high-functioning sociopath.
#128 to #126 - SenorButtPlug
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(07/25/2012) [-]
Alrighty.
#129 to #128 - jokeface
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(07/25/2012) [-]
and the other thing i wanted to ask is what do you consider illogical about my viewpoints?
#131 to #129 - SenorButtPlug
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(07/25/2012) [-]
1) Human development is Lamarckian, not Darwinian.

2) Assuming the existence of a heaven is no reason to say that human interaction needs disorder.

3) Ideas of equality and peace are not what you imply. To acknowledge that it is a difficult goal only confirms the fact that it exists, or else it would have already happened. It is not an argumentative point in order to say disorder is necessary.

4) Even if sociopaths would still be sociopaths, it is no reason to dismiss an observation of society that may act as a catalyst for their actions.

5) To suggest that disorder is a valid reason to destroy the human race is such a leap in logic that I don't even know where to start. Maybe explain it a bit more and I could more easily refute it.
#136 to #131 - jokeface
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(07/25/2012) [-]
1) What difference does it make whether I was referencing Darwinism or Lamarckism? My point still stands.

2) The reason heaven exists as a separate entity from Earth is because of its Utopian nature. Otherwise its existence would be meaningless. Ergo, heaven requires Earth's conflict to validate it.

3) I never once implied that peace was a difficult goal. I stated flatly that it is impossible. Unreal. A fantasy. Never going to happen as long as we exist.

4) This point is subjective and not worth delving into.

5) I was not implying that disorder is a reason to exterminate the human race. My point was that if you want peace, that's the only way to reach it. I wasn't saying we should kill everyone (although I could support that, but that's for a different discussion). All I was saying was, if peace is your goal, then there's your solution. If you're not willing to support that answer, then we have to live with war and suffering and turmoil until we either go extinct or God ends the world.
#148 to #136 - SenorButtPlug
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(07/25/2012) [-]
1) You obviously don't understand what Lamarckian evolution is if you don't think the difference affects your point.

2) You just restated your earlier point. I will reiterate: The assumption of a heaven is no reason to say that humans require disorder.

3) The fact that a problem can not be solved completely does not mean that it is a polarized issue. Fixing a problem even 50% or even 1% is better than nothing.

4) Everything is subjective, and this is no less subjective than every other point I mentioned.

5) Since you think that peace can not be achieved, your point is sound here. However, I would like to point out that the stance of "we are suffering and we are in turmoil" is a bit dramatic to be a part of a discussion on funnyjunk.
#156 to #148 - jokeface
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(07/25/2012) [-]
1) Okay, please explain to me what Lamarckian evolution is, and why it's relevant.

2) I don't get what you're saying. The assumption of heaven is what I was talking about. We (Christfags and such) assume heaven is real and so we build our lives around that basis. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.

3) I agree with you. The closer we get to that goal, the better. But there will always be conflict. We cannot become a perfect world. This guy is bitching about no one caring that people are dying and suffering, but what I'm saying is there's a reason we don't care: Death and suffering are an integral part of life, and if we exerted the energy to care about every single life that ends or goes through hardship, we'd all go insane. It's overwhelming and unhealthy to try to do so. It's good to be charitable and try to help them, yes, but to emotionally attach yourself to something so severe and widespread is impossible.

4) The value in overly publicizing news stories such as these is that is further unifies the general public in outrage. Outrage spawns action, and action spawns reform. Liberals don't want the general public to have guns, and since liberals control the media, they exploit tragedies like this to sway public opinion. It's not morally sound, but it's a damn effective way to manipulate the populace.

5) I apologize for overdramatizing, I just meant to encompass the entire spectrum of human conflict on a global level.
#203 to #156 - SenorButtPlug
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(07/27/2012) [-]
1) Lamarckian Evolution suggests that organisms acquire learned traits, as opposed to Darwinian Evolution which states that any organism that is not naturally fit will not survive to pass on its unfit genes, insuring the improvement of a species' ability to survive as a whole by having only the most fit survive. Darwinian Evolution is a fact of biology, but human social behaviors go against this type of evolution, as we are a social species. Human evolution does not require disorder (war, crime, ect) to continue to be the fact that it is. The way organisms interact is a result of evolution, not the other way around.

2) My original #1 and #2 points were in response to your point B. My point #1 refuted your point from a scientific point of view, and my #2 point refuted your point from a religious view. Personal religious beliefs should not be considered when speaking logically, because religious beliefs can differ so dramatically from religion to religion that it is impossible to base anything on these values. That is the point I was making here.

3) I would argue that the guy in the video is arguing that our concern is misplaced, not that we don't have enough of it. There were more people killed more recently in another country, but it got downplayed by the Colorado shooting. He is disdainful of the logical inconsistency of public outcry. The example of the people in another country getting killed was not a tool to show the lack of concern, but rather to exemplify your own point, to an extent. You say that if we cared about everything then we would go insane, and I agree.

4) I wrote my three earlier points yesterday and I don't feel like continuing this conversation, but I figure I owe it to you to post what I've written anyway.
#204 to #203 - jokeface
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(07/27/2012) [-]
I understand. Thank you for an intellectually stimulating conversation. It was much more interesting than just being called a retard or fag. Good day.
#164 to #156 - drakthaal
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(07/25/2012) [-]
so many linesO.o
#105 - AngelsShadow
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(07/25/2012) [-]
I hate to do it but... I agree with him. I ******* hate living in America where everyone tries to say "We're so tolerant!! We're the best country on Earth! **** YEAH" however... Be a member of a certain religion and you're ignorant and an intolerant ass wipe... Yeah... So tolerant. Personally I think we need to quit having our heads so far up our own asses that we eat our own **** and do something different, because guess what? Our citizens are killing each other, we're in massive debt and we're so caught up on the stupid petty issues, and making a mountain out of a ******* mole hill that we can't even see the biggest issues that we have right now, like out soldiers dying for no god damn reason, there is no ******* war And people killing themselves by eating more than they can handle and becoming fatasses! Personally, I'm thin and slightly built because I choose not to be a lazy **** like the rest of my country and try to keep up with my body. So **** America! **** Americans and **** all the YOLO ****! The rest of the world is looking at us like we're ******* idiots because of it so ******* stop!!!!

...and ****...
#139 to #105 - myrtille
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(07/25/2012) [-]
underlining all that makes it hard to read what you're saying, not to mention the long paragraph is discouraging in itself.
#140 to #139 - AngelsShadow
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(07/25/2012) [-]
I don't know how the underline happened, it wasn't underlined before I posted it o.O
#141 to #140 - myrtille
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(07/25/2012) [-]
Lol putting two exclamation points in front of and behind something underlines it
you probably said "...**** YEAH' !.! however...is no ******* war!.!"
removing periods.
#142 to #141 - AngelsShadow
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(07/25/2012) [-]
Well **** me silly and call me Mable! I learned something new today!
#143 to #142 - myrtille
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(07/25/2012) [-]
:P
#144 to #143 - AngelsShadow
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(07/25/2012) [-]
\m/()*.*()\m/
#101 - ibleedbmx
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(07/25/2012) [-]
i love in America, and guess what? **** AMERICA!!!!
#103 to #101 - ibleedbmx
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(07/25/2012) [-]
*live
#92 - srawesome
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(07/25/2012) [-]
Here is a highlight of his points if his video was too long for you
- America sucks
- Americans are fat
- Americans glorify violence
- American news only cares about Americans
- Americans are racist
- yolo is stupid
- I have a guitar.
#114 to #92 - chuckbob ONLINE
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(07/25/2012) [-]
I chuckled.
#81 - roachieroach
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(07/25/2012) [-]
I agree with him on certain points. News about the colorado shootings shouldnt be the main headline. Yea its upsetting but the 82 people in Iraq should have more precidence in our culture. Those soldiers are there willingly sacrificing their lives to defend the rights that these sociopaths use to just go out and shoot random people. Now saying America is the dumbest country on the planet is WIDELY off based. However he does have some good points that i do agree with. This will be thumbed down A LOT later but you know what. Fine. I'll accept it...
#78 - finishhimlarry
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(07/25/2012) [-]
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Boy this guy curses a lot.


And this was quite interesting as well.
#47 - crazyhandss
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(07/24/2012) [-]
I think he makes a point but he says "***********" waaaaay too much
#46 - turbotoucher
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(07/24/2012) [-]
Good point but you look like a justin beiber abortion survivor.
#199 - linxus
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(07/26/2012) [-]
i have to say that he is right and has some big balls to go out and say it that blatantly.
#177 - anon
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(07/25/2012) [-]
*****. All that for yolo?!?!
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#135 - anon
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(07/25/2012) [-]
derp
#96 - anon
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(07/25/2012) [-]
Crazy Hippie
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#26 - Spacemarine ONLINE
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(07/24/2012) [-]
i like this guy
i agreed with most of what he said
got kinda pissed when he labeled americans
then he said to stop yolo and i liked him again