That, and we warned them, and warned them again, before the second bombing.

amen!!

How dare you? How can you say they are simply stealing oil?
They also bomb schools and piss on the people they kill.

9/11 wasn't provoked? Yeah, right. America pretty much invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, countries where these terrorists live. Yes America is trying to help the people and rid these countries of terrorists, but that is secondary. If it wasn't for the oil in these countries, America wouldn't be there. Yes, all Americans are patriots and don't want to think bad of their country, but it's true. Take away any monetary gain by the American government and those soldiers wouldn't be there. This and this alone is the cause of 9/11. America got involved with what they shouldn't have. That is that.

Yes

No

The rape of Nanjing was committed by Japan...

How so? I'm fairly certain the U.S. had nothing to do with the rape of Nanking whatsoever...

We helped them cover it up in exchange for their medical documentation

Not calling you a liar, but do you have any documented proof of this? I can't just take your word for it.

metafilter.com/104296/Unit-731-A-Lesser-Known-Piece-of-WW2-History
Obviously not a super reliable source, but you can google it to your hearts content and check any history books. We granted the physicians of Unit 731 (the Japanese army's organization that performed crazy experiments on humans) immunity in exchange for their documentation of the experiments.

What am I getting thumbed down for? Read a goddamn history book fj

Alrighty then, thanks.

invalid, you are an anon. therefore fuck you

He better because I'm 12 and I know it's in Vietnam.

Not only was that refuted by my initial comment, it was wrong. We bombed Japan because we wanted to end the war without going onto the mainland, it had nothing to do with retaliation for Pearl Harbor.

there were allot more than 80... hell there were 343 firefighters alone killed not including citizens

"3000 is a much smaller number than 80 or 90 thousand." -- Me, just now.

ah, didn't see the 9000 part...

No problem.

"80 or 90000" Eighty or ninety thousand. He wasn't saying only 80 people died in 9/11. However, the firefighters who died on that day were brave men and should be honored at every turn.

yea i see now... i all sorts of fucked up there

You know, if we really wanted to massacres civilians wit the bomb, we would've dropped it on the Tokyo Metroplex
It was more of a show of power in order to get the Japanese Empire to surrendur
The Gov even had to drop a second one to end it

No, just no.

If we hadn't used that show of incredible, devastating force, the Japanese would never have given up. Thousands upon thousands of lives would have been lost in a continued war. Think about the fact that it took two atomic bombs (and a bald-faced lie that we had many more) to get the Japanese to surrender, and then ask if the cost in lives of a continued war would have been less than the very high loss of life in Hiroshima and Nagasaki; somehow, I don't think so.

ha thats funny because it is true

>Many more Americans would have been killed
>It was war
Pearl Harbor had 3649 American wounded and dead in the end, with 92 of them civilians. It was horrible. The two nuclear bombs dropped on Japan together killed between 150,000 and 250,000 people, most of which were civilian. You don't repay a terrible event with one 50 times worse and call it okay. The radiation is still causing cancer today. The bombs also started a nuclear arms race that almost blew us all up and gave humanity the power to literally wipe itself out. I'm an American and I don't care how many American soldiers would have died in a mainland invasion. NOTHING is worth what those bombs did.

American soldiers saved is enough for me.

The soldiers don't deserve to die either but there is a clear difference between a combatant dieing on a battlefield and slaughtering civilians. If the Japanese were the ones with the nukes and destroyed 2 American cities to save Japanese soldiers' lives then I gaurantee you would be against it. This is why I don't trust patriotism. It makes you blind to what is right or wrong so you look only at who is doing it.

No shit. They were the enemy. Why the fuck would I sympathize with them? I'm glad we pummeled their ass into the stone age.

You're not getting it, which just proves my point. Humanity means nothing to you. All you care about is victory. Why don't we just round up a hundred thousand innocent people and keep them in internment camps in the desert? I mean, it will sort of help us win. Wait, we did. You don't go into a war to stop evil and then commit the same level of evil just to be victorious. That doesn't help, anyone or make you any better and makes the reason why you entered the war moot.

I approve of this.

It's an American post, why the fuck would the date be 11/9? Besides, the day is know around the world as 9/11.

pmsl,,, it was a joke but it seems that no one likes dry humour any more.