So we don't use our brains to control our own free will? Then what, pray tell, do we use, our dicks?

I am using my brain actually by looking at history and coming to my own conclusions based on that historical fact..

I'm pretty sure he's using his brain.
Not free will.
Coming to a conclusive, educated answer is different than being able to come to a conclusive, educated answer.
You're not religious yet you believe god gave people free will... how do you work that one out then..

Except whenever you ask most atheists for a conclusive, educated answer, they spurt out the same quotes from the same people, with no personal reasoning other than, "I don't believe, so you can't either".

Awk now you would be generalizing would you ?
You know how you Christians always complain about atheists generalizing about religious people...

Personal reasoning (from me): I understand the mechanics of biology and how exactly life could evolve on this planet, I've watched god become more and more separate from life as we learn new things, everything that wasn't known before was credited to god, now we know a shit lot more about life, we see he isn't necessary. Looking at the Bible, none of it makes sense unless taken in astrological terms, which is far more likely as in the time the bible was written, people were personifying the starts and orbits.
The bible is nothing more than a literary-astrological hybrid on how to be a decent human being (if you exclude all the rape, bestiality, murder, pedophilia and forced marriages in it)
I have no problem with people believing in a personal god, but believing in organised religon is detrimental to society (Wars, bans on needed research because some 1600 year old book says it's wrong, breeding hate amongst those who follow it)

They're my thoughts on the matter, and please , don't say "all" atheists, as you people don't like it when we say "all" religious people.

You must be new here.

AND THEY ALL BLOW.

> Says he's respectful to Atheists
> Claims Atheists started shitstorm and Christians did 'nothing to deserve it'

Dude, no.

I honestly think that people should be allowed to think what they want.
If you're an atheist, that's fine. If you're a Christian, that's fine too.
I also believe people are free to express their opinions on this site. If the 'Christian' posts get less thumbs, it's probably just due to the fact that more Atheists happen to be on the site and therefore don't relate to the content.

Nobody should bash anybody's posts though, and therefore, I find your comment ironic.

It was probably worded wrong. Sorry, not that good at grammar. But I understand, it is kind of ironic. I respect the Atheists that don't act like they're awesome and perfect just because they have non-beliefs more than the ones who do.

P.S. I'm a girl.

Well, that's good. And it's great to have respect for other people.
However, there are PEOPLE in the world who 'act like they're awesome and perfect'... it's not confined to religion or atheism. Some people are just dicks; you can't segregate the opposite of one group and say "we did nothing to deserve this!" just because others are being assholes.

I'd like to say that i respect Christians as well, i didn't mean this to be offensive towards religion in any way possible, i just thought it was quite an ironic thing..

I understand. Honestly, it actually was kind of funny. It's just some people in the comments like to cause shitstorms over nothing.

I'm glad some people understand at least. Yeah, i don't like being associated with the assclown Atheists who do throw their non-beliefs around, but unfortunately, i'm put in the same boat as them.

Shoving our beliefs down your throat ?

Emm, no, shoving our evidence maybe, but you see there is a difference between educating people on the facts of life and trying to get them to have "faith"

Nothing to deserve it, huh?

"DID NOTHING TO DESERVE IT"

You sure don't wanna think about that some more?

Well honestly, I don't shove any of my religion 'down peoples' throats'. I don't know about the others, but all I really see is Atheists starting shitstorms because they think that the Christians are being assholes. But really, it's them.

Commendable. But why do you think this was meant to cause a shitstorm? It's a joke, and a funny one at that.

But once it's aimed against religion, now it's suddenly meant as an instigation?

Fuck that. If some christians feel offended by this, they can shove it.

I'm not offended by the beliefs Atheists possess. It's just when they think they're smarter than everyone of any other religion that's when it gets stupid.

you're doing it right

nice job molding all christians into one.Do you honestly think they all support those things?right now all this post is doing is calling FJ religious people stupid for believing something that you dont,almost all religious people on here dont support any of that censorship stuff,they just wanna believe what they wanna believe.How would you feel if i called all athiest's mass murderers like stalin or Mao?Im not even christian but the hypocrisy here is immense.

Stalin used religious Zealotry of the Russian orthodox church To keep the religious populous in line with his radical Ideologue. Mao used Massive government censorship to disallow any criticism on fear of death while the majority of people starved. I got news for you, Allowing the myth to spread is bad enough. An environment in which you keep quiet about the evils of the lie and effects of the lie allow the lie to spread, which we see in cases like Mao, Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini.

Also, I never said All christians, thats your word association, I am addressing those who attempt to squander the argument against religion as being somehow equal in absurdity or pervasiveness. I really could give a shit less about your what you believe or the Rationalizing jujitsu you have to perform to keep believing in it.

But don't expect me to allow Blatant stupidity to go unchecked, or to effect the way I live my life.

i dont wanna effect the way you live your life,that's your word association.I just wanna browse FJ without one group of people out of nowhere calling another group of people they disagree with stupid for no other reason then to start a shitstorm while you try to justify it.I'm sorry if that's worthy of red thumbs in some peoples books but thats my opinion and i'm not backing down from it.

Nor will I.

Please stop inserting yourself into my dialogue, victimization is the wrong approach here. I was never referring to you directly, rather the assertion you put forth.

I wont thumb you down, I didn't to begin with, perhaps you have offended someone else, but I see you as someone who is willingly ignorant at most, not uneducated or inflammatory in remark.

When did i insert myself into your dialogue?I stated the fact that he was causing a shit storm and that you were justifying it.I'm not the victim here,im not a christian or even religious.I never said you were attacking me.I dont know if you're being an arrogant asshole on purpose or if it's just genetic,but dont call me ignorant when you know nothing about me.You don't know the truth,you can't prove conclusively that what you believe is the truth,so dont act like others that dont believe the same as you are ignorant of said truth because nobody knows what that truth is.

And you just went full blow retard.
We are done here.

sorry,i'll try not to go "full blow retard" again you arrogant twat.

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wanna know what i hate?
people who think i give a fuck about what they hate
< my fuck cup

it's human nature to want to feel smarter/better than another human, religious arguments seem to be a very renewable resource for this feeling :|