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#136806 - seniorawesomesauce
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(11/29/2016) [-]
Reminder that Haiti had an election this passed week and the winner, and their new president, is a banana farmer.

>Started off by creating an autoparts shop
>Soon after he bought 25 acres of land to start a banana farm
>Worked with another company and received a loan to open up water plants in poor rural areas to provide clean water to people
>Rose through the ranks of several industries
>Opened up solar and wind plants to provide energy to poor citizens
>Started the country's first free-trade zone for agriculture which has created nearly 15,000 jobs nationwide
>Was elected with a direct majority of 55% out of 26 candidates
>Only 6 made it above 5%
>The other 5 candidates had worked in government and with past presidents of the country, but only one of them managed to pass 25%, which is still 30% behind the new based banana farmer president
#136811 to #136806 - anon id: 69d95d62
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nacla.org/news/2016/01/22/haiti%E2%80%99s-fraudulent-presidential-frontrunner-seizes-land-his-own-banana-republic

This man?
The man who displaced hundreds from their homes using bribes of local offices to pave for more farms which don't even sell to the local community?
This man that bulldozed land he outright lied and claimed was abandoned when it clearly housed hundreds if not thousands?
This man, who you seem to insinuate doesn't work with a former president, that worked with a political party of the current president, a president that might I remind you, was imposed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton?

This is your "based banana man"?
What a crock of shit.
User avatar #136812 to #136811 - seniorawesomesauce
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I think my favorite part is that the article calls him fraudulent, as if he himself is illegitimate based on circumstances outside of his control and not the opposition candidate being mad that he lost. Also you assume that because 1 person worked with Hillary Clinton that taints the entire party, and that everyone working within that party is just another Hillary Clinton.

Now then, nothing you've said has disproven ANYTHING that I've said, which is public information. The fact that peasants were using that land doesn't mean they were doing it legally- he rightfully bought and owned the land. The article also makes it seem like he's renting half the island, or thousands of acres. In reality he owns 25 acres.

Also it's not by policy that the agricultural free trade zone sells to other countries, that's just what happens. It's a free trade zone, merchants can sell what they want to who they want, and in fact this zone has created 15,000 jobs.
#136824 to #136812 - anon id: 69d95d62
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I think my favorite part is you have a minor form of alzheimer's.
You made a big point in your previous post that he's independent of other parties, yet this article clearly demonstrates that's not the case. Now here you are forgetting that. "Nothing you've said has disproven ANYTHING that I've said".

Go see a psyche.
User avatar #136826 to #136824 - seniorawesomesauce
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I didnt say he was an independent, I said he was as close to an outsider as one can be compared to the other top 6 candidates. They've worked with past administrations and past presidents of haiti, and he has not. He has very little political clout and a short list of a political career. Good try tho
User avatar #136809 to #136806 - nigalthornberry
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He sounds like a good man. Hopefully he does great.
User avatar #136807 to #136806 - marinepenguin
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Good. It's about time Haiti saw some actual recovery.
#136805 - dawggz
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admin you need to see this.

Either reports or something is fishy but before, when I sent any message via Facebook to a fellow user on this website the message would show a preview/thumbnail.

Don't know if tinfoil hat or not but this is weird.
User avatar #136835 to #136805 - undeadwill
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What happenin?
User avatar #136836 to #136835 - dawggz
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sometimes, fj gets marked as spam when trying to send a message [link removed] sometimes
User avatar #136844 to #136836 - undeadwill
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ah
User avatar #136803 - inzix
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Does anyone have the full CNN broadcast of election night? only thing i can find is poorly filmed TV screens with "CNN can now project that trump will win Texas", i want the full thingie, from an hour or so before the polls started closing until they cut the stream i guess.
User avatar #136802 - marinepenguin
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Sorry for all the posts, but I just saw that Erdogan may have stated that he plans on ending Assads rule and has declared war on Syria. Haven't seen anything official but I see reports that Turkish tanks have crossed the Syrian border.
User avatar #136801 - marinepenguin
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Turns out Hillary Clinton co-sponsored a bill in 2005 that would result in a year in prison or 100,000 dollar fine for burning the US flag.

It's still not right, but the Hillary supporters trying to play the "my candidate is less authoritarian than yours" card are ignorant of that. A bill > A tweet
#136786 - marinepenguin
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User avatar #136785 - marinepenguin
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Flag burning tweet aside, Trump is putting Tom Price as the Health Secretary. This shows that Obamacare is dead, and will likely be replaced with something that only minutely resembles it. Honestly if they only keep the two provisions they've been talking about and allow interstate competition it'll be a vast improvement and a good middle ground.
User avatar #136787 to #136785 - shekelnator
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man. trump isnt still president and your country is going nuts. Do you think he will arrest all the big guys who did support such thing?
User avatar #136804 to #136787 - inzix
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the US isn't Kuwait, you can't arrest people for supporting a healthcare plan.
User avatar #136829 to #136804 - shekelnator
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>he doesnt know in Kuwait for 1KWD you can go to the doctor get diagnosed and when you are signed to get medicines you get it for free
User avatar #136831 to #136829 - inzix
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what's your point? i can do the same here in Norway.
User avatar #136841 to #136831 - shekelnator
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i think we should arrest people for doing shitty healthcare which money goes for terrorism and jihadist to ruin your continent in Europe.


just sayin
User avatar #136843 to #136841 - inzix
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thank you for sympathizing with Europe, i too would enjoy being able to arrest people i disagree with, but i support liberty and freedom of speech.
#136847 to #136843 - shekelnator
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then allahu akbar my friend. enjoy more jihadist rapefugees who were fighting somewhere in this earth payed by US tax dollar which god from this health care.
User avatar #136848 to #136847 - shekelnator
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got from this healthcare*
User avatar #136790 to #136787 - marinepenguin
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What do you mean by going nuts? The protests have largely calmed down as far as I know.

And are you asking if he'll arrest people who supported Obamacare? Because that would be a no. The only reason the ACA got passed in the first place was because the Supreme court allowed it to be classified as a tax.
User avatar #136791 to #136790 - shekelnator
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so it is like stealing but from behind telling you Fuck you?
User avatar #136793 to #136791 - marinepenguin
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No, it was just Obama's attempt to bring nationalized healthcare to the entire nation in an attempt to follow European policy.

Though if you think "taxation is theft" then it would be kind of like stealing. I'm against nationalized healthcare so I'm all for the ACA being dismantled.
User avatar #136779 - lotengo
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ISIS claimed the attack at Ohio State
User avatar #136792 to #136779 - Ruspanic
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wasn't it some guy who was supposedly mad about the treatment of Muslims in the West?
It's not unheard of for terrorist groups to claim credit for things they didn't do.
User avatar #136798 to #136792 - lotengo
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pressed send to fast.

The article states ISIS claimed it, and sourced the press agency that ISIS uses.

We can't 100% confirm because the guy cant admit. Maybe if they look at his computer and find certain contacts and mails...
But in his facebook an imam that had ties with al-quaida is mentioned.


Weird thing I noticed tho, I have never seen 2 terror organisations fight over the dibs of an attack.

I have never seen ISIS claimig it and then Al-qaida claiming it was them all along or something like that.
User avatar #136795 to #136792 - marinepenguin
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Nah ISIS probably is just claiming it to give the appearance that they have any real power abroad.
User avatar #136796 to #136794 - Ruspanic
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Right, I'm not doubting that ISIS claimed it, I'm doubting whether ISIS is telling the truth about the attacker being one of them.
User avatar #136789 to #136779 - canyou
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That's 2 ISIS attacks in a row where a lot of people got injured but nobody died. ISIS kinda sucks at killing people tbh.
User avatar #136784 to #136779 - shekelnator
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obvious isnt it?
#136761 - canyou
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Can anyone give me advice on how to deal with people that expect exact sources and 100% proof on everything? I can't ever seem to win arguments with these types of people because the goal becomes "prove that you're not lying" and then it's impossible to convince them of anything without googling for sources for hours.
User avatar #136772 to #136761 - figatron
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It can be hard to "prove" something because most news articles are too dumbed down to include statistical evidence (and I mean demonstrating statistical significance not "study shows 15% of monkeys get cancer after watching the Tonight Show"). Some people won't listen regardless because they won't consider the possibility that they're wrong. Have sources you trust and understand the analysis and if they are oblivious there's not much you can do. Or just call them a racist. That seems to work for the left
User avatar #136776 to #136772 - canyou
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Ah yes, I once called someone a racist for supporting Bernie after called me a racist for supporting Trump. They proceeded to say it was less racist cause Bernie liked black people more. Good times.
#136778 to #136776 - figatron
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Should've voted for the Gar Bear
User avatar #136770 to #136761 - lotengo
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Have sources ready.
If they attack the sources they are not worth the time.
User avatar #136763 to #136761 - theism
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It depends on the claim being made. Some things are common knowledge and don't need a source. For anything else you need to back it up. My advice is to ask them to do the same. The people that are most aggressive on citations rarely hold themselves to the same standard.
#136743 - Ruspanic
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our glorious leader
User avatar #136768 to #136743 - marinepenguin
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I knew he didn't actually understand what a lot of the bill of rights actually meant, so him saying this isn't really surprising to me.

But that being said, we have to MAKE him understand that sometimes upholding rights means defending those who seem to push it to the limit or if it seems wrong.

He wants to be liked, he wants statues built in his honor in a hundred years. We can take advantage of that to steer him where he needs to go.
User avatar #136762 to #136743 - canyou
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Goddamn it. I can't even get on twitter because the very justified angry reaction to this is making me cringe. I voted for this guy.
User avatar #136906 to #136762 - Elk
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I cringe more over the fact that you guys whine when people burn flags, but now you're a pitching a fit because he said that people shouldn't be allowed to do it. You don't have to agree with everything that he says, but this is probably the dumbest thing that I've seen you guys complain about as a group...
User avatar #136911 to #136906 - canyou
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*citizenship
User avatar #136910 to #136906 - canyou
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It's the loss of citizen part I'm bothered by.
User avatar #136918 to #136910 - Elk
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If you don't love the country that you're in, why would you want to be a citizen? Find a place that you can actually show respect toward.
User avatar #136919 to #136918 - canyou
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You're right. I overreacted. I guess I'm just afraid of Trump overstepping some boundaries.
User avatar #136771 to #136762 - lotengo
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I don't agree with the tweet, but are you really turning a 180 over this?
User avatar #136773 to #136771 - canyou
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No, I still feel like Trump was the safer option. The reason I cringe is cause there's no way for me to defend this.
User avatar #136777 to #136773 - marinepenguin
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You shouldn't defend it. I voted for him, very enthusiastically in fact. But that doesn't mean we have to agree or defend everything he says. We hold his feet to the fire until he does what he should, and there's no shame in that.
User avatar #136781 to #136777 - marinepenguin
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Lotengo beat me to it.
User avatar #136775 to #136773 - lotengo
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Then don't defend it.
The fact that you can cringe at him means you aren't consumed by your own bias. You can still view him as a man and not a god and you are standing up for your own believes. All I can say is, good for you.

People who think all of Clintons horrible actions should be ignored because she has a vagoo are batshit insane. But people who claim Trump is a god and actually mean it are not a whole lot better.
User avatar #136782 to #136775 - canyou
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I agree. I think we need to support Trump, but hold his feet to the fire and call him out when he's wrong. But there's also a point where you should stop supporting someone even if they're on your side. I just hope some of the more enthusiastic Trump supporters know that too.
User avatar #136783 to #136782 - lotengo
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I sorta agree, tho I think this means nothing.
Guy puts a lot of shit on twitter. You as the people don't need to guide and direct the presidents every move.
Only when he actually starts locking people up for doing stuff like that, then you should protest.
Tho I doubt it will actually come to any of that considering he's not the law, he's not the cops, he's not the jury and he's not the judge
User avatar #136764 to #136762 - redandgreen
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I seem to remember saying he was an authoritarian nutcup.....
#136767 to #136764 - canyou
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We know what we must do
User avatar #136769 to #136767 - redandgreen
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Pence is probably worse. Though he may have read your Constitution.
User avatar #136797 to #136769 - marinepenguin
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Pence is far more of a conservative and idealist. I'm not sure how he'd do as the President, but I'm willing to bet that he's doing a bit more work as VP than would be normal since he has more political experience.
User avatar #136758 to #136743 - bgr
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Jesus Christ really?

Does he know our Constitution? Does he care?
User avatar #136774 to #136759 - figatron
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His legal team better be busy right now preparing a crash course in "shit you can't do as President" They're gonna have their work cut out for them
User avatar #136799 to #136774 - lotengo
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Don't be a dick about it. Not saying he's the smartest man alive but its safe to asume his inteligence puts Trump in the top 1% of the population.

He's was being blunt to get his message to the masses. But irl he's probably very calm.
Not sure why he's twittering shit to get people to freak out evn now, could be some angle we are mising, or he's actually a part time troll.
User avatar #136800 to #136799 - figatron
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his knowledge of the Constitution is lacking, the Supreme Court's stance on this is pretty clear. The decision wouldn't be 5-4 it would be unanimous. Even pre law freshmen know this. Or he doesn't believe in the Constitution. Which might be worse
#136760 to #136759 - bgr
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#136754 to #136743 - pebar
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If he would have said this before the election, I probably would have voted for Clinton

His Supreme Court pick better be a damn good one
User avatar #136765 to #136754 - redandgreen
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All the other authoritarian shit he came out with wasn't a clue?
User avatar #136755 to #136754 - Ruspanic
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He has said similar things before. I'm really not that surprised.
User avatar #136756 to #136755 - pebar
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If the republicans tolerate this, the party is dead
User avatar #136766 to #136756 - theism
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It seems like the Republicans are treating him like a slow child.
User avatar #136757 to #136756 - Ruspanic
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Let's hope they'll keep him in check somewhat now that they're no longer trying to win an election.
Or at least, let's hope his tweets are just talk. Would hardly be the first time he's talked out of his ass, only to backpedal later.
#136747 to #136743 - pebar
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User avatar #136788 to #136747 - marinepenguin
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"Old man doesn't understand internet"
#136748 to #136747 - pebar
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User avatar #136752 to #136748 - Ruspanic
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this guy's a colossal tool but this clip always cracks me up
#136749 to #136748 - pebar
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#136751 to #136749 - pebar
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User avatar #136746 to #136743 - figatron
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lawyers love a Trump Presidency. It's not often you get such an easy case
User avatar #136741 - lotengo
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Julian Assange has been taken  Wikileaks Compromised

infinitereaper
JGkingpin
I don't have time to check this out myself right now.
User avatar #136738 - canyou
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Trump needs to reread the first amendment
#136736 - pebar
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it's like the only thing I disagree with other libertarians on
User avatar #136750 to #136736 - figatron
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it's how you know which libertarians understand economics and which just watch Ron Paul on YouTube. A gold standard is essentially a series of price controls on gold. If the peg is no longer valid then the federal government must intervene. It's also incredibly susceptible to supply shocks. A fiat currency is subject purely to supply and demand of the currency.
User avatar #136739 to #136736 - Shiny
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Is there even a real point or is it just a meme?
#136731 - shoah
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Oy vey its anuddah me
User avatar #136737 to #136731 - pebar
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There's a Mario joke here somewhere
#136730 - marinepenguin
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User avatar #136732 to #136730 - shekelnator
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Footage shows US sailors detained by Irans naval forces Persians dont fuck around like mindless Americans.
User avatar #136742 to #136732 - marinepenguin
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That's what happens when our politicians don't believe in our country. Obama is an apologist who has tried to dismantle our military and world standing as a nation.

The US military could wipe Iran off the face of the map at a whim.
User avatar #136780 to #136742 - shekelnator
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>Iran is the aggressor
>basically drives into its shores.

tell me what will happen if Iran vessel came near to the Atlantis ocean?
#136753 to #136742 - whoozy
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And nothing of value was lost that day
User avatar #136729 - woozuh
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Was there really a doctor who was offering free testosterone tests to male hillary clinton supporters? Or was that fake news?
User avatar #136733 to #136729 - lotengo
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The news was real but he was mainly doing it for free advertisement I believe
#136723 - pebar
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do you ever just browse salon and read all the bullshit
User avatar #136728 to #136723 - figatron
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not since I realized its how they get paid
#136718 - canyou
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Lol, the Ohio State stabber was one of those "moderate" muslims who worried about how the media portrayed his religion.
User avatar #136740 to #136718 - Shiny
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Liberals are biting themselves in the ass by trying to make it ideological. Some fucker lost his mind and tried shanking random people with a kitchen knife, if he were doing something premeditated it'd look more like San Bernadino.
User avatar #136722 to #136718 - psyosis
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"I'll show all those accusing my religion of being violent that it's peaceful by driving a car through a crowd and then getting out and stabbing people! That'll show 'em!"
#136712 - feelythefeel
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How different is this timeline?
User avatar #136734 to #136712 - lotengo
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Be sure to keep an eye on the moops
#136744 to #136734 - anon id: 4ad7e761
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How do you live with yourself, you Nazi-collaborating fuck?
User avatar #136716 to #136712 - marinepenguin
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I'd bet that it's a far worse off one.
User avatar #136720 to #136716 - feelythefeel
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Why?
User avatar #136724 to #136720 - figatron
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Is that in the history files or did you mod it?
#136726 to #136724 - feelythefeel
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Updated map.
User avatar #136725 to #136724 - feelythefeel
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I played it.
User avatar #136727 to #136725 - figatron
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I used to mod the files in EU3 all the time to play around with history. Made a few for maps of modern history. That shit was way too time consuming though.
User avatar #136710 - marinepenguin
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Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are both fighting the vote recount.

Jill Stein is going to pocket this money for herself and the Green Party. She preferred a Trump Presidency over a Hillary one near the end anyways, she has no vested interest in actually going through with this.
User avatar #136713 to #136710 - feelythefeel
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Funny how she raised more money in four days than she did throughout the entire election.
User avatar #136714 to #136713 - marinepenguin
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(11/28/2016) [-]
It's likely she's being funded by some outside group, it'll be funny if she just fucks them and runs off with the money.
User avatar #136715 to #136714 - feelythefeel
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(11/28/2016) [-]
I hope she does, tbh.