And all democrats are Communist, hippie, totalitarian, hypocrites.
And all Libertarians are gun screaming Anarchists
And all Moderates are undecesive idiots

We can put stereotypes on everything. Yes there are some damn retards in the GOP but so are there in all the other parties. You need to look at the individual and not the group.

Kanade is right. Labels are what cause division in this country. Labels mislead the public. We are all Democrat, Republican and Libertarian. We share opinions that would coincide with the political views of every party, some more than others.

A lot of people consider the American Conservatives as hicks and American Democrats the lesser of two evils, actually. We are talking stereotypes, aren't we?

I'm not sure, but I think he means stereotypes on this board specifically.

posting this comment was a bad idea.

Japan. If we trash the McArthur constitution they will be probably our best wedge against China, NK and Russia. Either them or Germany.

The Congo

Why our greatest ally of course!

Canada.
we're on the same continent and we have enough to support ourselves if isolated from the rest of the world.

We do NOT have enough to support ourselves if we were embargoed or somehow isolated. Food would be incredibly scarce and it would not take long for us to run out. Sure, we could plant more crops, but the food would run out before the crops are ready for harvest .
The sad fact is many Americans would die, many millions. I don't have an exact figure.

It is the price we might one day pay for being an importer.

what, are you daft?
most of our food is grown here
corn, fruit, our entire middle is crops.
we also have huge natural gas and oil reserves.

What I find funny is you are ALWAYS the first to insult others. Usually a sign of a weak argument. You might want to go look at some statistics and research the food industry in relation to the economy before you make a snap judgement. We import a lot of food, especially seasonal food. We import the most food from Mexico and Canada, We also import 2 billion $ worth from China which only makes up around 3% of the total imports (this was in 2007 and has since grown). We nearly import more food than we export. www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_5778826

Around 17% of the food we eat year round is imported from foreign countries. This is a big number. wjltevansville.com/where-does-u-s-food-supply-come-from/

As for other reasons why we would not be able to feed ourselves in the event of isolation, see the below discussion, it covers more variables, all of which are essential to a thriving economy.

Are you sure about that? The US is the world's largest exporter of food. If we were ever isolated from the world (highly unlikely) we could keep all of that food for ourselves. We probably wouldn't be able to produce certain foods as well due to climate, but improving technology could compensate for that. Also I'm pretty sure the US doesn't currently utilize its farmland to maximum capacity.

Chances are if America were isolated and all its international trade ended, other countries would ultimately suffer more than the US itself.

(New Zealand has the most food exports) But we maybe could support ourselves but I think anarchy will break out, causing the government to collapse. But maybe new technology will be discovered/created but if it does it will most likely not be for quite sometime. But the food in America (some of it) is not very healthy and quite a few people in America are obese due to over eating (35.7%.) But if we are isolated and this does happen then I think a new generation will overtake America/Canada; A fend-for-yourself, survival of the fittest scenario will happen.

We export a lot of food, but we do not feed entire populations of foreign countries. If we were cut off from the rest of the world, we would certainly have issues feeding our population. It is much more complicated than food production and reserves.

People still have to BUY food. Isolation means no imports, no exports. Food prices will immediately begin to rise due to lack of product. Because of this, the populace will flock to the stores to buy as much food as they possibly can while the prices are still low. The shelves will empty in less than a day. The trucks that deliver the food take time and when they do arrive, the store will be emptied again. Many people will be too late to the punch and because of the higher demand for food, prices will rise even more. And then consider how many businesses and corporations will lay off workers because they rely on international commerce. This dumps hundreds of thousands, even millions off the workforce and into unemployment, government aided citizens, all of whom will still need to eat and pay their bills. Becoming the world biggest importer of all goods will really bite us in the ass so many different ways in this scenario.
At this point, many will struggle to put food on the table; the 50 million Americans on food stamps will suffer first.
Crops do not grow overnight, they take time. We will be consuming faster than we can grow. Restaurants, fast food chains will close because of high food prices and lower supply. Many people will suffer, many will die of starvation. And it won't just be a lack of food, it will be technology that we have grown to rely on, paper products, EVERYTHING and it will all have a higher price tag.
Suffice to say it would not be a good situation. A country this big, suddenly isolated would not last long.

Ideally: the United Kingdom

In sad reality: Israel

Well, if they could choose, China obviously.

Most probably England though, if it was an actual situation.

China.

Antartica. Eh has ice and doesn't afraid of anything.

he hasn't done anything other than his usual speeches.

Yay but I think 15% is a better rate

Might be the best option we got, though I would support tax breaks for those below the poverty line.

This.

but people below the poverty line don't pay taxes.

I'm personally in favour of a slightly slanted tax rate. Nothing extreme, but that does give lower-income families a little more money to try to make things work, while still leaving higher-income groups with plenty left over to enjoy.

MAXIMUM trollING

What would that be, Vern?

I think we need, to get rid of the Kaiser.

Why would you say something like that?

Because he doesn't make very good bread! Play me off Johnny!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfNxgdUEOF4

My cousin, from Poland, is an "illegal immigrant" in the US. He attempted many times to come here legally, but the immigration system is purposely skewed against Europeans, favoring unskilled Asians.

He has been here for 3 years or so, and is about to depart back to Poland after accumulating enough money to make a good living there.

Compare him to the hoards of mexcrements who shoot eachother in LA and turned that place into a dump...

The sad truth is, the mass hoard of Hispanics are here to stay whether or not the Republicans shame themselves into giving away free citizenship; further putting their status as a first-class party in peril.

Inb4 illegal immigration increases 10 fold once the beans realize that they will get free citizenship

I agree with this so much
And I can't stand to see Mexicans burning American flags

No this used to be Mexico! bitch
I love when Kat Williams says that

Yeah, immigration policy used to be geared towards getting skilled people from Europe. Johnson fucked that up some fifty years ago and now we have a bunch a farmers and drug lords going back and forth by the millions.

Johnson, as all Presidents have been in the modern-era, was simply a front man. There was a direct relation between a certain mysterious force and the opening of our, "floodgates."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NVB9g5S4Nc

Never did he once, despite living in Democrat Illinois, use any kind of state benefits.

I think we should crack down on illegal immigrants but make it easier for them to legally immigrate, including some sort of process that helps them register without having to be deported.
America was founded on the idea that this would be a haven for the people of the world; you could come here with a decent chance of making a living without having to worry about persecution because of your beliefs or origin.
If people want to come to "the land of opportunity," it should be easy for them.

More people working = better economy

extensive deportation of anyone not here legally including their children.
barbed wire fence, mine fields, and border guards that shoot anyone trying to cross.
too bad that wont happen
a proper fence would be nice, at the very least.

land mines are banned under international law - just sayin'
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_mine#Anti-personnel_mine_ban
anyone born in the US is automatically a citizen, even if the parents are illegal so if they are deported, we keep the kid
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_Clause
latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/08/25/what-happens-to-us-born-kids-deported-undocumented-immigrants/

unless you mean that they SHOULD be deported with their parents in order to not break up the family, in which case I agree. But since they are US citizens, they should be allowed back in whenever they're old enough.

I CAN DREAM

but anyway, children born with illegal parents shouldn't have citizenship.
i don't know any other country like this.
try going to mexico illegally, and having a child. they'll imprison you and deport you all the same.

After a few minutes of research, I concur.
Deporting the parents and keeping the kid is bad for everyone involved, even the community who now have to support the orphaned child.

Just let Turkey fuck them up. New Ottoman Empire anyone?

meh... just another middle east conflict

If it somehow did escalate into a world war and the US did get involve (but we'd probably be neutral), we'd probably be on Israel's side because quite frankly, Iran hates us and the US is very close with Israel. The United Nations would probably be on their side too because of the whole nuclear energy thing... Iran would get fucked...

But that's with the off chance that it would go global.

another 6 day war.
not a world war.

i live near Chicago and this happens all the time, nothing out of the ordinary.

A shooting is not out of the ordinary in Chicago. What is out of the ordinary is the victim and time and place of the shooting.

i see your point, but i dont think the shooter intentionally did it during the gun meeting. The news said it was a case of mistaken identity on the part of the gunman but you never know anythings possible

i'm really just starting to ignore everything you say.

Why is that? Most of my information is factual.
This just happens to be speculation. But what exactly is wrong with coming to such a conclusion?
You are all quick to judge, but never really give a reason why my opinion might be inaccurate.

every one of these conspiracy theories can be easily shot down.
it's not even worth it to me to argue about it.
government is inherently evil, but i'm not going to believe it's to the point of killing children, or really anyone for political gain.

Not familiar with Operation Northwoods..? Of course you aren't.

oh yeah
perfect evidence that the government is killing people.
completely rejected, but whatever.
bet you think 9/11 was planned too?

Who cares if it was rejected. It is disturbing enough that the idea was even CONSIDERED. Doesn't that make you think? If it was considered once, it has been considered again.
And yes there is overwhelming evidence that 9/11 was staged.

i'm done

Shit like this happens all the time, especially in Chicago. The media gives more attention to gun-related incidents now because gun control is such a hot issue. Are you insinuating that the government murdered that girl for political gain?

Yes that is what I am saying. There are too many coincidences that happened to line up just right.

I know Chicago is violent, I know murder is is far from being abnormal there. But too many coincidences in this scenario. It is fine if you don't believe me, but don't dismiss the idea just because I am calling it a government conspiracy. The government is not above sacrifice of their own citizens to push specific agendas forward.

Both imo. Depends. Liberal feminist tears are the best though.

a leader that wants to help the people, not the parties. so it could be any party

Grey jedi.

Silly weak Jedi, Sith are superior

Center-line parties.

Third Parties.

Well, all parties have a political alignment.

Left and Right isn't a great way to represent it, though.

How do I apply for immigration?

Draw a circle with a stick and you're good to go.

Yes, I think a nice spot on the beach would be good.

Most people here are rather conservative.

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