It's not like the people had much money today anyway, that was the issue.

Even if the people have more money now, it shouldn't be used on bailouts for corrupt companies.

Did they really have more money, though? In the US in particular, wages stagnated and debt rose above 100% of household income. The lower class lost wealth after the 70s, and the middle class made meager gains, only be women entering the workforce and doubling household income.

I should've thought of that, but living conditions still improved a little for the middle class, and maybe the lower aswell, or at least that's the idea I have.

Indeed. But that's where borrowing and loans come into it. Richard Wolff gives a great overview of what happened during the GFC. A teacher gave me his name only yesterday and I've already gone out and ordered one of his books ^.^

Here's his talk on it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGOA2WedIQo

And pic is somewhat related.

I'll check it when I get home, right now, I'm on a terrible computer.

No rush, friend.

The same sentiment shared by my local bookstore, it seems, considering it'll take three weeks for my order to get in ^.^ I should've ordered a few others whilst there.

Oh, it saved as a gif. Thanks a lot, Obama.

Armindo, your avatar is making it difficult for me to recognise myself ^.^

I almost replied to myself thinking it was you on a few occasions.Le laughing face.

the only thing we need is breivik

he learned me how to swim

Lol no.

Forgot I had this.

I give you credit sure it is spam, but it's spam that is nicely put together.

Different people have different opinions lil guy. Most of the people saying it's personal business probably aren't the people talking about Collins being gay.

Some of them are, that's what I was trying to say. I'm all for gay rights myself, but I don't think people should make much of a deal when someone admits being gay.

Yeah, but in the NBA and most pro sports leagues for that matter, a gay player is likely to get bullied in the locker room, so it is a big deal in that cases

If their own fellow players really would bully him for that, then that's different, I wasn't aware of it and they should eat shit and die, I just assumed they would behave as the adults they're supposed to be in cases like this, but I'm still skeptic that they really would outright bully him.

A few might, but they'd probably get shit after a while. Charles Barkley even said that he played with many gay guys, so I'm guessing it's not a big deal anymore

*case

Three typos in a row, I'm a failure.

I hate that women so much. Dirty hippie.

I'm kind of ok with hippies, even though almost nobody seems to like them. They're kind of stupid sometimes, but they still seem like cool guys.

As valeriya said, they're the lumpen of the lumpen. The bourgeoisie aren't going to surrender the MoP if we all sit down in a drum circle.

they're short-sighted idealists

>Hippies
>Ever good.

Excuse me what backwards place are you from, hippies are probably the most lumpen of the lumpen and that takes lumpenness to a whole new level.

Hippies also didn't kill millions of people, so there's that.

I don't like hippies either but hey, at least they're not Stalinists...

Yes, this was more or less the point I was trying to make. They're idiots, but they're harmless idiots.

There were actually a lot of great 60's radical groups but they were sadly outshined by the rise of Bolshevik supporters in NATO countries, which I think is a shame.

It's kind of similar to what happened to certain communist parties around the world during the cold war, they stopped actually caring about communism and became "Russia's little bitch" parties and actual communists on those parties were purged or something similar. It was a bloodless form of stalinism, but still stalinism.

Well everyone had thought the Russian Revolution was some kind of victory for the working class so they all thought Bolshevism was the future.

Many of them, yes, I just don't think they're too bad.

Guard Song is still best Soviet song.

Nigger gonna nig.


And the longer niggers nig like this the longer it's going to take me to find some nice cheap .223...

I moved past all of this trivial back and forth of one day my rights are secured and the next they're up for grabs.

It's time to find a way to void the gun debate through technology. Cody wilson created a printable gun from his own in less than a year,and now that they have 3d printers that can manufacture with metal,I really dont see how they can control this in the future without stepping over that line where free nations a dictatorships meet.

The future doesnt have time for gun control.

The problem is you can't.

Mandatory testing at a certain age? Could filter some people, at least.

ACLU might bitch tho

Explain.

At a certain age - say sixteen for example - you're required to undergo a basic psychological examination.

It's just a related picture. people have different opinions about politics is all. is that so hard to grasp?

The whole point of political discussions is to debate about eachother's opinions. If you just throw out "that's just your opinion" then there is no debate, there is no understanding, there is no compromise, and there is no benefit to anyone. People will remain divided and society will tear itself apart.

well i hadn't thought about it that deeply. you're right though.

#3deep

But, yeah, you're right.

Since nobody is answering, I'll just say that he was a pretty cool guy.

Mixed economies vs Command economies is one thing. I won't discuss that. But market economies are fucking retarded. Not one state has ever developed industry with a full market economy. All industrial development has been done involving government direction and/or protectionism.

It was also believed at the time of our founding fathers that the only ones entitled to vote were white men.

As time goes by the right to vote has expanded to all races and genders. Now this didnt mean that the founding fathers were anti voting, they were just for the voting rights of all those considered "people" back then,just like we defend the voting rights of all those considered "people" now,just not felons.

It's the spirit of the law that matters.

>Imperialists imperialise Libya
>Imperialists get buttimperialised when their embassy is attacked
>Imperialists blame other imperialists in a shitty two-party system because half of the imperialists are still buttimperialised about Obama

Oh, you said bias-free. Sorry.

I honestly just wanted to use 'buttimperialised' a few times.

And that is why you shouldn't get involved in countries that function perfectly fine.

Eh, I wouldn't say Libya was fine. But the intervention was shitty, and the 'support for a popular uprising against tyranny' or whatever the fuck was simply a cover for an economic agenda.

It was a lot better off before that's for certain, all this gold dinar probably upset murrica enough, it's funny they've pretty much degenerated back to warring tribes level, all because they believed some stupid notions of liberty.

Terrorists attacked a US embassy and killed 4 Americans including the ambassador. Not much else to say about the actual attack; it's the political war that's significant.

The Obama ad.ministration screwed up then lied about to make themselves look better. The republicans found out and are using it to try and knock Hillary Clinton out of the presidential race of 2016 because she'd probably win the democratic primaries.

How'd they lie?

The bureaucrats in the state department dismissed the act as a disorderly protest against a movie, (The Innocence of Muslims) which is shown by them having edited the talking points for Benghazi via email to erase any mention of terrorism. Of course, that movie was a non-issue in Libya, despite its offensive portrayal of Islam by a Jewish director. After the attack, at great risk to his own life, the Libyan President went to Benghazi to affirm that it was indeed a terrorist attack, although Rice would have none of it and insulted him on the national stage. This helped the election of Obama because it prevented immediate controversy. Mitt Romney was unable to bring up the attack in the last debate because of how it was portrayed as being void of organized terrorism.

They lied about not being able to send military personal to Benghazi, which would have been able to get there in 3 hours from mainland Europe at command; the attack lasted 6-8 hours or so. Fundamentally, they did nothing as the consulat was under attack. Obama, when he heard of what was transpiring, did not take interest and instead told his cabinet to head operations, which is now known (despite the fact that the White House released a supposed photo of Obama reacting to the attack by sitting on a couch with a frown). The next day he went to Las Vegas for a campaign fundraiser.

I haven't been following the issue, but I thought there were actual protests against the movie which happened to coincide with the terrorist attack on the embassy. Am I wrong?

Apparently it came out of somebody's ass. Hicks, deputy chief of mission in Libya during the attacks, testified less than a week ago that the video was a non-issue in Libya.

Hicks, who had a demotion in ranking, claims that the Obama DJ 4DM1Nistration is punishing him for whistleblowing.

Ohai.

Why would we nuke the Soviet Union Russia? Or anyone for that matter?

NATO refused to sign a treaty saying they'd never fire nukes first, because they were concerned about being overwhelmed by the Warsaw Pact. The Warsaw Pact states had a much larger combined military force than NATO at the time.