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User avatar #62997 to #62964 - akkere ONLINE (05/02/2014) [-]
I don't understand the logic behind the "gun enthusiasts".
People who were "anti-firearm" often argue against firearms citing that they could just simply be taken from the owners by a shooter and then used on other people. This completely side-swipes that. Are they afraid of the technology being legislated into other firearm companies?
Either way, threatening the owner of the company only feeds into the Anti-gun image of an irresponsible firearm owner.
User avatar #62981 to #62964 - fuckya (05/02/2014) [-]
It's the same shit as micro-stamping on bullets. It's bullshit.
California is passing the laws that most if not all gun manufacturers aren't going to abide by due to the absurdity of the price and henceforth removing Cali from the firearm market.
User avatar #62988 to #62981 - Shiny (05/02/2014) [-]
So, what, we should just artificially stagnate weapons research just because of the slight probability that the result might end up legally mandated?
#62999 to #62988 - anonymous (05/03/2014) [-]
"So, what, we should artificially stagnate nuclear weapons research just because of the slight probability that the result might end up in third world war?"

your logic=thinking about the ramifications of bad technology is dumb

your logic=fail
User avatar #63002 to #62999 - Shiny (05/03/2014) [-]
Reduction to absurdity much?
User avatar #62991 to #62988 - fuckya (05/02/2014) [-]
Did I ever say to do so?
Hell, I want the CDC to conduct research on firearm deaths. What I have a problem with is that this technology IS being used in a way circumvent the public and pass a political agenda.
User avatar #62992 to #62991 - Shiny (05/02/2014) [-]
And how is that is that in any way the stalked CEO's problem?
User avatar #62974 to #62964 - hawaiianhappysauce (05/01/2014) [-]
Gun enthusiasts hate free market capitalism? It's their right to build the guns. It's the government that may for this upon owners.
#62956 - lulzforkoreanferry (05/01/2014) [-]
forgot to make a new name.
User avatar #62941 - johnstuartmill (05/01/2014) [-]
What is worse then a bee sting? Two bee stings.
What is worse than two bee stings? The holocaust.
What is worse than the holocaust? Three bee stings.
User avatar #62939 - lulzformalaysiaair (05/01/2014) [-]
I used to be really pro-Ukraine for this issue but the western governments did back up the revolution in ukraine when it helped them. Russia is almost doing the same thing, is it not?
Fuck Russia though.
#62922 - anonymous (05/01/2014) [-]
Why is lawrence bittaker, a serial killer who raped and tortured 5 teenage girls with items normally found in a tool box, still alive after being sentenced to death in 1980?

All those years the families of the victims had to live in the shadow of that killer instead of him being put down and them moving on with their lives.

It's a fucking disgrace, and the blame rest on the heartless libtards who refuse to modernize the appeal system in this country in cases where the killer is absolutely guilty.

And don't pull that "but he may be duh innocent hurr" crap, he admitted his crimes in court, all while smiling in front of his victims families.
#62958 to #62922 - lulzforkoreanferry (05/01/2014) [-]
he suffers more in prison then in death, thats it....
User avatar #62966 to #62958 - netzjager (05/01/2014) [-]
He really does not suffer any punishment. Our system is not a punishment system that actually punishes anybody. You live in total control by the prison but what real punishment is that? Sure it is horrible conditions to live in but being placed in a low quality living conditions does not make up for the crime that has been committed.

For the Inmates that should be rehabilitated, they go deeper into crime and the underworld instead of placing them back on a proper path. With an inmate that should be punished, they live the same conditions as the one who has done a lesser crime and does not face a meaningful lesson to deter their crime. Our system is an example of a system that tries to achieve a goal and then performs it half-assed granted it is not an easy system to put in place and has a very dangerous nature
User avatar #62976 to #62966 - hawaiianhappysauce (05/01/2014) [-]
It could be worse. He could live in Finland or Norway where he probably would be living in a nice luxurious prison.
#62959 to #62958 - anonymous (05/01/2014) [-]
its not about him, its about the families.

every night they stay up and wonder what hes doing in that jail

every night they tey wonder if hes happy, or sad, if he regrets what he did, if enjoys the memory of killing

thats no way to live, kill the killer and everybody can heal
User avatar #62954 to #62922 - netzjager (05/01/2014) [-]
Time were probably different in the 80's with the use of the Death Penalty if the person admits their Guilt. If he had said he was Not Guilty, then He most likely would have gotten the Death Penalty. Since he admitted Guilt most likely through a Plea Bargain he was saved the Death Penalty. Since they issued his punishment as "Life in Prison", they courts can not resentence a different punishment as that would be Illegal and break many civil and structural laws.

Killing him won't change anything for the family if he was sentenced to Life in Prison because regardless, that man is never going to see the outside of a prison cell for the rest of his life. He can't terrorize the family or anybody else anymore and his influence goes as far as the prison courtyard. Even if he was executed, the victim's family does not just get over their loved one's death just because the victim have been avenged. Its up to the family to get through the lose of the loved one though that You need to login to view this link death would be a huge relief .

If it was my say, he wouldn't have seen the inside of a prison cell.
#62960 to #62954 - anonymous (05/01/2014) [-]
no, he was found guilty and sentenced to death, hes on death row right now. hes been there for more than 30 years.

as long as he lives it will never be over for the family

you keep thinking about him, wondering what hes doing, imagining him at night

even the memories of your loved ones become tainted because he's still alive somewhere. its not about revenge, its about closure

of course this is something only the victims families can understand, i just wish libtards would sympathize with us more than they do the killers.
User avatar #62962 to #62960 - netzjager (05/01/2014) [-]
He pleaded Guilty and from what I know, you have 10 years before they execute you that's because you have to have appeals for the sentence but since he pleaded guilty, he can not have appeals . I don't agree with the Death Penalty for most cases this one is deserved though but what is worse is a slow, unproductive, and backwards Death Penalty system that does not deter or execute a majority of it's criminals.

The families will always be haunted by the death of their loved one and closure is important especially if he was already sentenced to death. In cases like this, it does Justice harm.
#62928 to #62922 - anonymous (05/01/2014) [-]
They could at least put people like that in jail with the normal prisoners instead of protecting them. They'd most likely get killed by an inmate, but it's probably better that way.
User avatar #62940 to #62928 - johnstuartmill (05/01/2014) [-]
It would be a huge problem if we had a penal system that had the punishment system ran by inmates. Much like people complaining about prison health care and housing, If we completely neglect prisoners then it would show that the US penal system has huge flaws and problems.
#62923 to #62922 - anonymous (05/01/2014) [-]
The only way that you libtards can understand how stupid you are is by having a family member taken away from you. I can't honestly wish that upon you, knowing how horrible it is, but I still hate the fact that you idiots can deny justice in cases like this. It's fucking disgraceful and you should all be ashamed. I can honestly say after living in this country, after watching you idiots cry and weep for rapists and monsters, that democracy doesn't work and people like you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
User avatar #62938 to #62923 - johnstuartmill (05/01/2014) [-]
You say "you" a lot like there are actually any "Libtards" who affect the Status Quo on this board.
#62961 to #62938 - anonymous (05/01/2014) [-]
it's called venting

do you think anybody here will be able to change the status quo of anything?

pretty shitty argument
User avatar #62963 to #62961 - johnstuartmill (05/01/2014) [-]
Argument? No just an observation. And yes anyone here can change the status quo, it is just a matter of trying. And vent all you want but that does not mean someone else cannot criticize you for doing so.
#62967 to #62963 - anonymous (05/01/2014) [-]
well can anyone change the status quo by posting on this board?

because your whole "observation" was that my post wouldn't effect anything.

will anything posted here effect anything?

you can try to criticize me for doing something everybody here does, but once again, shitty argument.
User avatar #62968 to #62967 - johnstuartmill (05/01/2014) [-]
Not by posting on this board, I said people on this board.

My observation was using "you" to point to "libtards" on this board. My critique was that if there was a "libtard" on this board then you are expecting them to do something.

Yes things posted here can effect things. By posting you can change someone's ideology and it can create a butterfly effect. How likely is it? Small but still likely.

Much like how everyone vents here, everyone criticizes here. I do not see why you got so Butthurt over something so trivial.
#62916 - anonymous (05/01/2014) [-]

Which do you support in the Ukraine Crisis?

User avatar #62931 to #62916 - maddboiy (05/01/2014) [-]
Poland, mutherfuckers nearly waged war on Russia singlehandedly after they moved into Crimea
User avatar #62971 to #62931 - byposted (05/01/2014) [-]
The Poles would never have allowed Tusk to start a war. Opinion polls of Poles (lel) showed that the overwhelming majority did not feel bound by the situation, not supporting the overt hostile foreign policy towards Russia - let alone the prospects of a war.

Whatever troop movements occurred in the early stages were purely precautionary.
User avatar #62919 to #62916 - nigeltheoutlaw (05/01/2014) [-]
Well, I want to support Russia because Ukraine is a bigger shithole than Russia, but I don't want to support Russia because they're a bunch of pinko commies. I'm conflicted.
User avatar #62918 to #62916 - johnstuartmill (05/01/2014) [-]
You need to add a an option for people who support neither cause.
User avatar #62917 to #62916 - teoberry (05/01/2014) [-]
pops never figured thatd hed go down by the hands of another nigga
#62915 to #62914 - pebar (04/30/2014) [-]
a win for freedom
User avatar #62983 to #62915 - undeadwill (05/02/2014) [-]
They blocked it at the federal level?
User avatar #62984 to #62983 - pebar (05/02/2014) [-]
they voted no on raising the federal minimum wage
User avatar #62985 to #62984 - undeadwill (05/02/2014) [-]
#62911 - anonymous (04/30/2014) [-]
User avatar #62910 to #62908 - johnstuartmill (04/30/2014) [-]
What exactly is the deal with Benghazi? I have not stayed up to date on that event so I am practically clueless.
User avatar #62912 to #62910 - pebar (04/30/2014) [-]
Terrorists attacked an embassy and 4 americans were killed.
It's more of a political issue, but republicans are blaming Hillary Clinton, who was head of the state department at the time, for failing to provide enough protection.
At the same time, there was a video bashing Islam which sparked some riots; the Obama administration blamed the attack was a spontaneous event linked to the riots and the video. Republicans are accusing the administration of lying to cover up their error.
User avatar #63116 to #62912 - thatguyontheright (05/03/2014) [-]
Yea, they want Obama impeached over it (They have been trying to get him impeached since he was elected, so no surprise there).

Did you know that if you say Benghazi three times into a mirror, the 400 soldiers who died in Beirut will ask why no one cared.
User avatar #63118 to #63116 - pebar (05/03/2014) [-]
"Impeachment is a formal process in which an official is accused of unlawful activity"
It's not necessarily removing someone from office.
User avatar #62905 - pebar (04/30/2014) [-]
Does the Free Market Punish Racism? What We Saw at LA Clippers Protest
User avatar #62906 to #62905 - Shiny (04/30/2014) [-]
Market economics punish and reward behavior based on the society's standing cultural values. Which is why it is fuckin' hilarious that people blame the government whenever a company singlehandedly makes a decision to reinforce social equality.
#62891 - anonymous (04/30/2014) [-]
I think they should put it so if the person going through trial doesn't want publicity, then the media isn't allowed to publicize it.
User avatar #62893 to #62891 - netzjager (04/30/2014) [-]
They have something called a "Gag Order" that stops media coverage of an event
User avatar #62883 - commission (04/29/2014) [-]



Guys, give me the full low-down on what the hell is going on in Ukraine right now, I heared that Ukraine is not willing to take out the pro-Russian activists vbecause Putin said he'd invade if Ukraine touched them, is this true?
#62886 to #62883 - anonymous (04/30/2014) [-]
Ukraine is so damn complicated, there's too much cold war media info wars going on to get a good analysis until it's actually over or until someone pulls out.
User avatar #62887 to #62886 - commission (04/30/2014) [-]
"Pull Out"

that's what she said





#62890 to #62887 - anonymous (04/30/2014) [-]
is that a sexual reference
#62888 to #62887 - anonymous (04/30/2014) [-]
I don't get it
User avatar #62889 to #62888 - commission (04/30/2014) [-]
**commission rolled comment #1273739 ** :
shut the fuck up you love nothing
User avatar #62885 to #62883 - commission (04/30/2014) [-]
help us with Stem Cell Research here at:

User avatar #62877 - pebar (04/29/2014) [-]
3 Policies More Racist Than Donald Sterling and Cliven Bundy
User avatar #62882 to #62877 - johnstuartmill (04/29/2014) [-]
User avatar #62869 - yuvesh (04/29/2014) [-]
Banned BNP 2014 Broadcast so this is a thing
#62876 to #62869 - anonymous (04/29/2014) [-]
At least they didn't let Nick sing.
User avatar #62875 to #62869 - johnstuartmill (04/29/2014) [-]
I enjoyed that but in the sense that a nun would enjoy satanic death metal for the radical guitar solo the lead guitarist did at the end of the song. , but the man who was talking at around 3:55 was blinking like crazy. Vote BNP!
User avatar #62872 to #62869 - netzjager (04/29/2014) [-]
A racist thing, but a thing none the less
#62870 to #62869 - maddboiy (04/29/2014) [-]
goddammit BNP
goddammit BNP
#62881 to #62870 - anonymous (04/29/2014) [-]
#62866 - pebar (04/29/2014) [-]
hue hue hue
#62873 to #62866 - johnstuartmill (04/29/2014) [-]
Just remember, Joker made everyone richer by burning all that money.
#62874 to #62873 - pebar (04/29/2014) [-]
Deflation is actually very bad for the economy. Initially, the only thing that is felt is people spend less money. When people don't spend money, businesses lose customers. When businesses lose customers, they lay off workers. When they lay off workers, people have less money to spend. Then the cycle repeats. According to Milton Friedman, the sharp decline in the money supply due to multiple bank failures was the primary cause of the great depression.
Deflation is actually very bad for the economy. Initially, the only thing that is felt is people spend less money. When people don't spend money, businesses lose customers. When businesses lose customers, they lay off workers. When they lay off workers, people have less money to spend. Then the cycle repeats. According to Milton Friedman, the sharp decline in the money supply due to multiple bank failures was the primary cause of the great depression.
User avatar #62880 to #62874 - johnstuartmill (04/29/2014) [-]
I never said it was a good thing but you have a good point. Lets see how much it hurt the economy.
Each block looks to be a pallet so a pallet of 100s is 100 million. A pallet's height is 3.5 feet. Pallets themselves are 40 inches by 48 inches so we get around 80,640 cubic inches per pallet.

The pile of money looks to be about 15 feet high and if piled into a square maybe 10 feet by 15 feet which gets us 3,888,000 cubic inches divide that by 80,640 and multiply by 100 million and you get around 4,821,428,571.43 billion dollars. Divide that by the money supply, 10.5 trillion and you get .00046. and there is the rate of deflation. Hopefully I did my math right
User avatar #62867 to #62866 - jewishcommunazi (04/29/2014) [-]
What does "QE" mean?
User avatar #62868 to #62867 - pebar (04/29/2014) [-]
Quantitative easing, it's a type of expansionary monetary policy.
#62849 - dehumanizer (04/29/2014) [-]
hey gaijin, remember the 6 milion
User avatar #62894 to #62849 - teoberry (04/30/2014) [-]
comfort women whore! nanking false!
User avatar #62860 to #62849 - johnstuartmill (04/29/2014) [-]
You mean the United States was scared of people of Japanese decent right after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and made a very impetuous decision? Absurd!
User avatar #62839 to #62834 - netzjager (04/29/2014) [-]
We, as the US, should not be getting involved. We already have a large number of troops in the Middle East A "war" that is neither supported or beneficial to have in the long run and if we have some form of major conflict with Russia, we will be fighting on two fronts against another Super Power and a Guerilla Insurgent Faction who is causing enough trouble as is. We can't always be the Police of the world.

#62842 to #62839 - johnstuartmill (04/29/2014) [-]
We are not getting involved we are putting up an "Iron Curtain"
User avatar #62844 to #62842 - netzjager (04/29/2014) [-]
Remember what happened the last time an Iron Curtain closed? It is possible that we might enter using Politics, Economics, or the Military and create tension between Russia and the US again
User avatar #62845 to #62844 - johnstuartmill (04/29/2014) [-]
Exactly. By doing all of these sanctions and restrictions we are creating tension between Russia and everyone else Because the U.S. is not the only one doing this . Now whether or not the actions of all countries opposed to Russia's escapades work then maybe the tension is well bought, but I do not see Russia stepping down thus far.
User avatar #62847 to #62845 - netzjager (04/29/2014) [-]
If it is a group effort from multiple power nations, then it would work better than just the US, but people shouldn't expect the US to be the sole faction working against Russia.
User avatar #62852 to #62847 - johnstuartmill (04/29/2014) [-]
I do not think anyone is expecting the U.S. to solely deter Russia from the warpath.
#62810 - johnstuartmill (04/29/2014) [-]
Anarchist governments are never in debt.
Anarchy: 1
Government: 0
User avatar #62836 to #62810 - teoragnar (04/29/2014) [-]
User avatar #62837 to #62836 - netzjager (04/29/2014) [-]
It usually means a lack of a central government, but people still form groups to make laws and such. Its not all chaotic Bad Lands and the shoot 'em up Wild West like some people think. Only Radicals and Neophytes in the Anarchy School of Thought believe in that kind of thing.
User avatar #62838 to #62837 - teoragnar (04/29/2014) [-]
But wouldn't you just created smaller central governments?
User avatar #62841 to #62838 - johnstuartmill (04/29/2014) [-]
Anarchy sees government as any entity above the law, which it is undoubtedly so. That said they would create market based services that take the place of government.
User avatar #62846 to #62841 - jewishcommunazi (04/29/2014) [-]
Anarchists usually dislike markets even more than they dislike government, so probably no.
User avatar #62851 to #62846 - johnstuartmill (04/29/2014) [-]
I am talking about Anarcho-capitalists. I probably should have pointed that out prior.
User avatar #62858 to #62857 - johnstuartmill (04/29/2014) [-]
You would still be right though. Some Anarchists dislike corporations and other market variables.
User avatar #62859 to #62858 - jewishcommunazi (04/29/2014) [-]
There are even some that like markets but dislike capitalism I think, those guys have a pretty big amount of tendencies.
User avatar #62861 to #62859 - johnstuartmill (04/29/2014) [-]
I bet if we try hard enough we could find an anarchist who likes government.
User avatar #62848 to #62846 - netzjager (04/29/2014) [-]
How do they not like markets?
User avatar #62850 to #62848 - jewishcommunazi (04/29/2014) [-]
Usually markets are a capitalistic trait, anarchists regard them as hierarchical, oligarchic, etc. There are exceptions, of course, since anarchism is filled with all kinds of tendencies within it so a few still have faith in some sort of market economy.
User avatar #62853 to #62850 - netzjager (04/29/2014) [-]
Granted it depends on the Anarchist on whether they prefer a market based system or an alternative system. Though for this conversation, I think it is safe to say both Mills and I are talking about an Anarcho-Capitalist system
User avatar #62840 to #62838 - netzjager (04/29/2014) [-]
No, a "smaller central government" would be more like a normal Libertarian point of view where people are connected through that government. In an Anarchist nation or a nation that discarded it's central governments , you and your neighbors would decide things through each other and/or mutual courts like in Machinery of Freedom that are made as a company to be arbiters of disputes. If you want more in-depth explanations, I know Johnstuartmill can explain it better than I.
#62813 to #62810 - netzjager (04/29/2014) [-]
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Cthulhu: 1
Anarchy: 0
Government: 0
User avatar #62804 - lulzformalaysiaair (04/28/2014) [-]
conservatives/republicans are fucking crazy in america and a good majority of democrats too but not on the same level in total . Like Jesus christ they can't stop fucking suprising me after years. I'd much rather vote for a socialist which I greatly disagree with then one of those retards.
#62812 to #62804 - anonymous (04/29/2014) [-]
This is basically the mindset of every 13 year old interested in politics.

"Man conservatives are so dumb lol i mean that's what Bill maher and John Stewart and Tosh.O said so it must be true lol they're so funny sarah palin is dumb guiseee"

They make sure to never point out anything specific of course, that would require thinking.
#62830 to #62812 - anonymous (04/29/2014) [-]
are you kidding me? you just tried to generalize me and then just outright lied by saying a false statement.

"They make sure to never point out anything specific of course, that would require thinking. "

Any person i ever watch that does critisize them brings out very specific things, and i don't wtach jon stewart/colbert/tosh.o/bill maher

User avatar #62843 to #62830 - netzjager (04/29/2014) [-]
Well your statement is vague on what you mean so you never did point out anything specific with the Conservative party. Just that you find them "fucking crazy" does not explain anything to anybody not that it is not true .

And who watched Tosh.0 for politics?
User avatar #62884 to #62843 - akkere ONLINE (04/30/2014) [-]
... Tosh.0 does politics?
User avatar #62895 to #62884 - teoberry (04/30/2014) [-]
probably not that well
User avatar #62892 to #62884 - netzjager (04/30/2014) [-]
That is the million dollar question
#62814 to #62812 - anonymous (04/29/2014) [-]
The Republicans aren't objectively any worse than the Democrats, but why they are bad is far funnier. Democrats might be obsessed with guns and gays, but they don't fuck other dudes in airport bathrooms while actively campaigning against gay marriage.
#62824 to #62814 - anonymous (04/29/2014) [-]
hurr durr

all repubs is gay and campaign against de persecuted gays

such hypocrite

meanwhile the dems pretend to be freedom fighters while attempting to ban tobacco, soda, guns, Christianity in public, self defense, choice of healthcare, switchblades and knives under 5 inches, pitbulls, states rights, and trans fats.

but i guess baby killing and fag "marriage" are the only true freedoms in this world.
User avatar #62816 to #62814 - pebar (04/29/2014) [-]
Democrats complain about minorities being worse off and then go on to ban them from competing with us privileged white folk and also remove the cost employers face when they discriminate.
#62831 to #62816 - anonymous (04/29/2014) [-]
i agknowledge all the stupid shit like race carding that many democrats do but they are far less worse then many republiucans sadly.
User avatar #62833 to #62831 - pebar (04/29/2014) [-]
Walter E Williams - Minimum Wage as a Racist Tool Not really, no.
Policies that democrats advocate for have been a machine that produces poor people and it disproportionately hurts blacks.

It's not just race baiting.
User avatar #62825 to #62816 - silverzepher ONLINE (04/29/2014) [-]
i don't like the idea that i can be passed up for a job because a company has to be ethically diverse, if my skills are of a higher standard than the person of color who is applying i should be hired.
#62818 to #62816 - anonymous (04/29/2014) [-]
That's obviously just as retarded, but it doesn't have that humor factor that stereotypical GOP hypocrisy has.
I'm also not sure why you're defending the GOP when they're just as anathema to libertarians as the DP.
#62823 to #62818 - anonymous (04/29/2014) [-]
the only reason you think its "funny" is because you're biased to the leftwing side

or you just watch to much of the daily show

or both
User avatar #62819 to #62818 - pebar (04/29/2014) [-]
I don't really follow actual politics anymore; I've found it to be too depressing because politicians care more about getting reelected instead of actually working to fix the country's problems.

However, as far as ideology goes, I side more with the GOP because economic policy is important too me. While I am generally socially liberal, the courts mostly take care of those things so I don't worry about it. Federal government republicans are more likely to leave social problems to the states anyway.
#62820 to #62819 - anonymous (04/29/2014) [-]
Since when are the GOP economically libertarian? They've advocated special treatment for large companies for years.
#62822 to #62820 - anonymous (04/29/2014) [-]
not true at all, thats just more democrat propganda

the gop advocated less taxes

the democrats advocated bailouts because competition is bad and big businesses can never be accountable
User avatar #62808 to #62804 - johnstuartmill (04/29/2014) [-]
#62805 to #62804 - pebar (04/29/2014) [-]
could you be more specific?
User avatar #62878 to #62805 - lulzformalaysiaair (04/29/2014) [-]
do I honestly need to be?
User avatar #62879 to #62878 - pebar (04/29/2014) [-]
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