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User avatar #69840 - anonycunt (09/24/2014) [-]
UN General Assembly thread. Who is waiting for President Obama's speech? Let us talk about it here after it is addressed.It will be put on live on CNN and i guess many other news stations. He will talk about ISIS, Ebola, Ukraine, And Nuclear energy.
User avatar #69851 to #69840 - byposted (09/24/2014) [-]
I missed it, which is to say that I missed nothing.
#69831 - ronjeremysweiner (09/24/2014) [-]
so, who would agree that the US military belongs in mexico more than anywhere else?
alot of our domestic problems have something to do with drug cartels.
wasting money on the war on drugs because were half-assing it.
cartels spread violence wherever they go.
the reason we get so many immigrants is because mexico is shitty.
why is mexico shitty? thats right, the cartels
if we actually focused on taking care of them, and made mexico more stable, it would solve alot of our problems.
#69837 to #69831 - cabbagemayhem (09/24/2014) [-]
Haha, yeah that would just create more problems than it could possibly fix. The drug cartel is completely funded by the war on drugs, a set of immoral policies to begin with. Immigration is only an issue because of our minimum wage laws. I don't think we should just get rid of minimum wages, though I could be wrong. In any case, invading Mexico would only increase the traffic over the border.
#69848 to #69837 - ronjeremysweiner (09/24/2014) [-]
i agree i think the war on drugs is retarded, but now there are cartels that pretty much control mexico.
they need to be dealt with and were not doing enough to make sure it happens.
the war on drugs is focusing on keeping shit from crossing the borders and mostly arresting gangs in america rather than dealing with it at the source.
#69880 to #69848 - cabbagemayhem (09/25/2014) [-]
You can't stop a natural market by force, and attempting to do so only puts bad people in power. Before anything can be done, the war on drugs must end. Then, the cartel will be weak if it even survives, and it can be dealt with through conventional policies.
#69834 to #69831 - economicfreedom (09/24/2014) [-]
The best thing the government could do to defeat the drug cartels is to legalize drugs and allow industrial competition.
#69841 to #69834 - mr skeltal (09/24/2014) [-]
Seriously though, how could a cartel win against a megacorp?
#69846 to #69841 - mr skeltal (09/24/2014) [-]
By becoming the megacorp.
#69878 to #69846 - byposted (09/24/2014) [-]
False equivalence! Corporations, which grant the state a portion of their earnings in tax, are, by nature, moral entities.

Drug Cartels are moral entities if only they pay tribute to the state, which is simply not done in America - as is in Lebanon, for instance, with its illicit hashish industry, based in the northern Bekka.

Legalize drugs and bring life to new corporations, which will fill my pockets in their lobbying efforts for less regulation.

Vote Libertarian.
#69882 to #69878 - ronjeremysweiner (09/25/2014) [-]
i would be fine with alot of drugs being legalized
like weed or other things that can be done responsibly
but mind altering shit or bath salts and shit that make you violent, that should remain illegal
heroines fine since ppl doing it will just sit in a corner and not harm anyone else
#69881 to #69878 - cabbagemayhem (09/25/2014) [-]
A corporation isn't moral for paying taxes. States can be corrupt. Furthermore, corporations lobby to change regulations in their favor, further distorting the economy. Simply following regulations does not make a corporation moral. Drug cartels are a moral entity only if they behave according to moral standards, such as not killing people they don't like.
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User avatar #69826 - larsfillmore (09/24/2014) [-]
We can't really go to war with any nation anymore
All wars are basically fought between Militias and PMCs
#69838 to #69826 - cabbagemayhem (09/24/2014) [-]
Yes we can, but the day one of us does, it will devastate the world more than any war prior if we even have a world after that.
#69823 - karlsmokeroom (09/24/2014) [-]
how much did the holla cost?
User avatar #69859 to #69823 - jewishcommunazi (09/24/2014) [-]
Six brazilians.
User avatar #69842 to #69823 - ablueguy (09/24/2014) [-]
Remember the six gorrilion
User avatar #69832 to #69823 - feelythefeel (09/24/2014) [-]
Six million. The holla costed six billion. Six trillion Jews died in the Holla cost.
#69827 to #69823 - mr skeltal (09/24/2014) [-]
tree fiddy
User avatar #69804 - cycloneclone (09/23/2014) [-]
Can we all agree the best solution to solving all the issues with ISIS and Syria would be to just nuke the whole Middle East?
User avatar #69910 to #69804 - brone (09/25/2014) [-]
No. Scientifically, that would be extremely dangerous considering that if there was a nuke powerful enough to destroy the entire middle east everyone in the world would get radiation poisoning.
User avatar #69835 to #69833 - cycloneclone (09/24/2014) [-]
get out.
User avatar #69829 to #69804 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/24/2014) [-]
2true/10 no im not joking
User avatar #69824 to #69804 - larsfillmore (09/24/2014) [-]
Let things solve themself
#69822 to #69804 - karlsmokeroom (09/24/2014) [-]
that would fuck the world buddy
User avatar #69808 to #69804 - economicfreedom (09/23/2014) [-]
no... we can't
User avatar #69809 to #69808 - cycloneclone (09/23/2014) [-]
found the jihad
User avatar #69814 to #69809 - economicfreedom (09/23/2014) [-]
"hurr durr nukes are so cool"
how's middle school going?
User avatar #69818 to #69814 - cycloneclone (09/23/2014) [-]
thats right
no response
User avatar #69815 to #69814 - cycloneclone (09/23/2014) [-]
originaljoke/10

get your facts straight you hippy liberal fuck
#69839 to #69815 - cabbagemayhem (09/24/2014) [-]
Hah, you told economicfreedom to get his facts straight in the same sentence you called him a hippie liberal. I don't know economicfreedom, but I know anyone who calls someone with that name a liberal is missing some facts.
#69807 to #69804 - byposted (09/23/2014) [-]
>let's just raze the entire region, because I'm too retarded to understand its relevance in modern geopolitical discourse

Lulz, occupied Palestine would not be spared, you know.
User avatar #69830 to #69807 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/24/2014) [-]
Damn it makes the decision hard. I guess not.
User avatar #69810 to #69807 - cycloneclone (09/23/2014) [-]
the world would rejoice and world peace would finally come true
User avatar #69811 to #69810 - byposted (09/23/2014) [-]
>world would rejoice

dat oil crisis tho

>world peace would finally come true

In what manner?
#69819 to #69811 - mr skeltal (09/23/2014) [-]
"In what manner? "

No more Muzzies, no more Jews!
User avatar #69820 to #69819 - byposted (09/23/2014) [-]
>No more Muzzies

What of the Maghreb and the Far East?

>no more Jews

What of the United States?
User avatar #69812 to #69811 - cycloneclone (09/23/2014) [-]
no time for details
#69801 - youregaylol (09/23/2014) [-]
www.funnyjunk.com/an+fj+user+died+tonight/text/5304611/

so we all agree that this is cancer right?
only mongoloids really believe this bullshit
#69847 to #69801 - mr skeltal (09/24/2014) [-]
FJ falls for every fake death ever.
User avatar #69796 - feelythefeel (09/23/2014) [-]
So I had a plan of working hard in my last year of highschool, joining the army and then going to university to become a political analyst, but why bother? I just had a better plan. Why don't I just say that I'm bisexual? I'll never have to prove it, I won't have to give up being straight, and I'll get preferential treatment in work because of diversity quotas. I can get what I wan, even when I don't deserve it!
User avatar #69799 to #69796 - jewishcommunazi (09/23/2014) [-]
For being bisexual? I can sort of understand trying to compensate for institutionalized racism/sexism even though I oppose it, but sexual preference doesn't seem like it would cause a disadvantage when it comes to finding work, especially since it's such a private thing compared to sex and race. Is Canada that fucked up?
#69798 to #69796 - youregaylol (09/23/2014) [-]
I don't think being a half fag would cover it, you're going to need to go full on meat chaser. It's not like it would require any acting skills.
#69776 - syrianassassin (09/23/2014) [-]
guys

the sirens are on

and the army is everywhere taking every syrian away


i might not come and might be dead

it was pleasure to see you all and it was nice to argue with you all

this might be my last speech .-.
#69836 to #69776 - cabbagemayhem (09/24/2014) [-]
I can't imagine what it's like to live there. Good luck, brave sir. And, love your neighbors if it's the last thing you do, including the Jewish ones.
User avatar #69817 to #69776 - byposted (09/23/2014) [-]
I'll meet you at the gates of Paradise, sweet zaim.
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#69806 to #69776 - xxangelisxx (09/23/2014) [-]
RIP, lil nigga.
User avatar #69800 to #69776 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/23/2014) [-]
But you live in Kuwait, wtf are you talking about.
#69999 to #69800 - abstractpink (09/27/2014) [-]
hes being delusional
#69797 to #69776 - politicsnstuff (09/23/2014) [-]
I have no pity for dead mudslimes.
I have no pity for dead mudslimes.
User avatar #69793 to #69776 - aoeui (09/23/2014) [-]
YOUR YEARS OF ANTI SEMITISM HAVE COME TO AN END
User avatar #69792 to #69776 - jonglio (09/23/2014) [-]
what the heck
#69790 to #69776 - mr skeltal (09/23/2014) [-]
THROW FAT BEN'S POOP AT THEM
User avatar #69788 to #69776 - agreatusername (09/23/2014) [-]
If they come for you give em hell.
#69787 to #69776 - zahnrad (09/23/2014) [-]
Kill some jews for me.
Kill some jews for me.
User avatar #69786 to #69776 - schnizel (09/23/2014) [-]
Keap your head down, don't peek out of windows and open your mouth when the grenades are falling. Do you know how to breathe while shooting?
User avatar #69784 to #69776 - alimais (09/23/2014) [-]
seriously ?
#69781 to #69776 - princessren ONLINE (09/23/2014) [-]
Godspeed, you glorious muslim
User avatar #69770 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/23/2014) [-]
ISIS will be gone. They are not a big threat anymore, too many countries have united to help.

Best not to bother making threads about them like they are a threat.
#69775 to #69770 - mr skeltal (09/23/2014) [-]
Andrew Klavan: Is ISIS Islamic?
#69773 to #69770 - mr skeltal (09/23/2014) [-]
FARTS

FARTS

FARTS

FARTS

FARTS
#69768 - mr skeltal (09/23/2014) [-]
We should perform torture enhanced interrogation on captured ISIS members by mixing capsaicin crystal in vodka and pouring it on their balls.
User avatar #69767 - feelythefeel (09/23/2014) [-]
>people whining about "cultural appropriation"
>not realizing that the simple act of listing two white inventors (Thomas Edison And Nikola Tesla) could bar anyone who believes in this bullshit and isn't white from half of all household objects
User avatar #69782 to #69767 - jewishcommunazi (09/23/2014) [-]
Cultural appropriation and cross-cultural exchange are two different things, people who dislike the act of cultural appropriation and aren't complete chauvinist retards have nothing against cross-cultural exchange. Not that I think cultural appropriation is some big deal anyway.
#69762 - mr skeltal (09/22/2014) [-]
Would you say it's a viable option to leave innovation in space travel up to the private sector?

Right now, I would say no.
The only real profit that space travel can turn right now is in space tourism. Which is a small niche industry. It'll be a long time before space ambitions will really be profitable.

Though I'm interested to hear what you think.
User avatar #69764 to #69762 - whatley (09/22/2014) [-]
Considering that in modern times the private sector is doing better than the public sector in regards to space travel, I would say yes. Not to say I still don't want government research, grants, and subsidies to occur, but the private sector may be the driving force in years to come.
#69763 to #69762 - youregaylol (09/22/2014) [-]
You're forgetting contracting, private companies will create technology for the sole purpose of selling or renting it to the government. This is how the military gets some of it's greatest weaponry, by holding competitions. The government puts out an ad asking for a certain product, and private tech companies will present their take on it in the hopes that the gov will do business with them, it's a very efficient system by and large.
User avatar #69748 - anonycunt (09/22/2014) [-]
What do you guys think is the biggest threat that ISIS / ISIL poses to the western world ?
#69802 to #69748 - mr skeltal (09/23/2014) [-]
The begging for war from the US growing the local hatred.

Same thing happened with Iraq and Hussein.
User avatar #69803 to #69802 - anonycunt (09/23/2014) [-]
Its a good think USA is going to war with ISIS. Better destroy something that is spreading faster than ebola.
User avatar #69780 to #69748 - lordketchup (09/23/2014) [-]
I'm in Sweden

Take a guess what i think about so many syrians fleeing
#69821 to #69780 - mr skeltal (09/23/2014) [-]
have fun being covered in syrians, katchop
User avatar #69805 to #69780 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/23/2014) [-]
I'm so, so sorry your government is so disgusting. Sweden is a horrible example of what the future may become.
User avatar #69758 to #69748 - feelythefeel (09/22/2014) [-]
I'd say it would be the radicalization of the Islamic minority. And for once we have mainstream media sensationalism to thank for something, because if there's something sensationalism is good at it's culturally isolating things.
User avatar #69757 to #69748 - alimais (09/22/2014) [-]
Waves of refugees, diversion of society through imported foreign cultures, etc
#69752 to #69748 - youregaylol (09/22/2014) [-]
The only real threats that I can imagine are terror attacks and the radicalizing of Islamic minorities, turning them into homegrown terrorists.

In a conventional war they would pose no threat.
User avatar #69754 to #69752 - anonycunt (09/22/2014) [-]
Before 9/11 happened there where about 6 mosques i believe that where spreading and teaching radicalization. Do you think this is happening now in Mosques in the USA. Honestly im all for religious freedom and privacy but i think we need some security in suspicious mosques. Especially those that have members with beards and no mustaches. That is a symbol of radicalism.
#69755 to #69754 - youregaylol (09/22/2014) [-]
Ideologically I'm opposed to Islam in western countries period.
User avatar #69756 to #69755 - anonycunt (09/22/2014) [-]
sigh, i wish there was a way to stop its spreading.
#69760 to #69756 - mr skeltal (09/22/2014) [-]
There is.

Enforce border security and put down troublemakers as soon as they start causing shit.
User avatar #69761 to #69760 - anonycunt (09/22/2014) [-]
the problem is we dont know the trouble makers. They live among us, as us. If that was the case 9/11 wouldnt have happened.
User avatar #69749 to #69748 - schnizel (09/22/2014) [-]
Bad videos.
User avatar #69750 to #69749 - anonycunt (09/22/2014) [-]
probably
#69743 - feelythefeel (09/22/2014) [-]
I thought it was bad when they introduced the Holocaust course.
User avatar #69771 to #69743 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/23/2014) [-]
I'm guessing gr12, also had a course like that. Called "World Issues".

SAP courses Sociology anthropology physiology is also an extremely libewal course, one project had us presenting a social justice issue and asking the class questions on what they thought. It was horrible.
User avatar #69772 to #69771 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/23/2014) [-]
FYI I didn't take World Issues
User avatar #69765 to #69743 - ablueguy (09/23/2014) [-]
Where is that course though?
User avatar #69766 to #69765 - feelythefeel (09/23/2014) [-]
BC, Canada.
#69713 - pebar (09/22/2014) [-]
There's an anti-abortion measure on the ballot this election; for all practical purposes, it defines life at conception.

There's a bunch of pro-life propaganda on campus today. Giant posters of aborted fetuses and everything.
MFW.
User avatar #69794 to #69777 - smallwood (09/23/2014) [-]
I wish i had a lamp like that.
#69769 to #69713 - mr skeltal (09/23/2014) [-]
THERE'S A BUNCH OF FAT BEN'S POOP PROPAGANDA ON CAMPUS TODAY
#69746 to #69713 - youregaylol (09/22/2014) [-]
The truth hurts, I believe that everyone who is pro choice should be forced to view an abortion. After all, I have no problem seeing the consequences of the things I support.
User avatar #69738 to #69713 - eight (09/22/2014) [-]
I don't get why people ignore the rights of the mother in favor of something that isn't even fully formed yet. Isn't her life and well-being more important in the situation? Her body, her choice is my thought.
#69744 to #69738 - youregaylol (09/22/2014) [-]
"fully formed" has no meaning, we're all constantly progressing in our life cycle.

and what about those born with with birth defects, can they be killed because they aren't "fully formed"?

or is the argument that they aren't really human because they depend on someone else? does someone stop being a human because they have to live off life support or require 24 hour care?

why is the mothers life less important than the child's life? because she has a higher level of functionality? can we kill those with mental deficiencies, are they not "human"?

is it not also the babies body we're discussing, in addition the mothers? does the child have no "right" to his/her body because they are not able to communicate?

in addition the mother, in the mass majority of cases, already had a choice when she had sex without taking all necessary precautions.

abortion is a disgusting practice, and it's only use is controlling the degenerate population.
User avatar #69747 to #69744 - eight (09/22/2014) [-]
""fully formed" has no meaning, we're all constantly progressing in our life cycle.
and what about those born with with birth defects, can they be killed because they aren't "fully formed"? "

Fully formed could have meaning if you're invested in whether or not it's a human at a specific stage.
Depends on the perspective of the person arguing against abortion. Honestly, don't really care. I'm more concerned about the mother. I don't think it would be immoral to terminate a baby that would have birth defects (such as down syndrome).

"or is the argument that they aren't really human because they depend on someone else? does someone stop being a human because they have to live off life support or require 24 hour care?"

Life support isn't a human. It depends on the level of dependence. A toddler needing a human to survive is not the same as a fetus requiring a mother to exist and grow.

"why is the mothers life less important than the child's life? because she has a higher level of functionality? can we kill those with mental deficiencies, are they not "human"? "
The child cannot exist without the mother sacrificing her body, time and health. So yes, the mother is more important as it's effecting her well-being.

"is it not also the babies body we're discussing, in addition the mothers? does the child have no "right" to his/her body because they are not able to communicate? "

No, the baby does not have rights. Not if it's essentially a parasite on the mother. It's the mothers choice until the child is born.

"in addition the mother, in the mass majority of cases, already had a choice when she had sex without taking all necessary precautions."

She made a bad choice, but that doesn't mean from that point on that all choice is stripped from her. She is still a capable human being able to make choices. The fetus is not.

"abortion is a disgusting practice, and it's only use is controlling the degenerate population."
Abortion is a neutral practice.
#69753 to #69747 - youregaylol (09/22/2014) [-]
Lori and Reba Schappell - Conjoined Twins found the twins
#69751 to #69747 - youregaylol (09/22/2014) [-]
Most of your arguments are based on the premise that viability=human, which is utterly false. Consider conjoined twins, I believe in one case a pair shared 40% of their frontal lobe in addition to several other important blood vessels, meaning they couldn't be separated. Both lived normal lives, and neither had any severe mental deficiencies.

If two people can be distinct while sharing the same brain, why would an umbilical cord be any different?

You also need to freshen up on your definition of parasite. I could list them all the differences here but this page lists them all for the most part.
www.l4l.org/library/notparas.html

You see all of your premises are based in strange ideological assumptions, not science or logical morality.

That taking of innocent human life will always be disgusting.
#69745 to #69744 - youregaylol (09/22/2014) [-]
*more important than the child's life
#69740 to #69738 - byposted (09/22/2014) [-]
>Eight's attempt at courting a woman
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User avatar #69729 to #69713 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/22/2014) [-]
jesus christ that must be annoying
#69710 to #69701 - pebar (09/22/2014) [-]
Assuming not anarchism,
Libertarians do not argue against ALL regulation. The airbag bit is nonsense because if you wanted a car with an airbag, you shouldn't have bought one without one. If you look at car commercials, safety is a huge selling point. The private police is nonsense, libertarians do not have a problem with tax funded police. The dirt road is nonsense, roads are funded by gas taxes; if you don't drive, you don't pay the tax.
The poor working conditions is also nonsense. If you don't like your job, don't work there. The competition between employers trying to get the necessary labor they need improves working conditions more than government ever could.

A lot of that other stuff is why I think anarchists make libertarians look bad, as I said a couple posts below.
User avatar #69732 to #69710 - alimais (09/22/2014) [-]
I am from progressive Europe,

what taxes do I pay when I use a electronic vehicle ?
#69737 to #69732 - pebar (09/22/2014) [-]
After a brief google search, it appears my comment about gas taxes is just a popular myth. Gas tax revenues do not cover the full cost.   
   
Whatever, I still believe that the benefits of streamlined trade justify the tax.
After a brief google search, it appears my comment about gas taxes is just a popular myth. Gas tax revenues do not cover the full cost.

Whatever, I still believe that the benefits of streamlined trade justify the tax.
User avatar #69929 to #69737 - undeadwill (09/25/2014) [-]
Toll roads are still more effective.
User avatar #69718 to #69710 - schnizel (09/22/2014) [-]
The lack of is does not please the average joe. They don't want oppertunity, they want safety.
User avatar #69714 to #69710 - lordketchup (09/22/2014) [-]
whole lotta assuming there
User avatar #69715 to #69714 - pebar (09/22/2014) [-]
There was virtually no regulation in the late 19th and early 20th century, and yet it produced the greatest improvement in the lives of ordinary people for the widest range of people that the world had ever seen. Tens of millions of immigrants came to America in that time because it was better than everywhere else.

History is on my side.
User avatar #69716 to #69715 - lordketchup (09/22/2014) [-]
The 19th centuary was a shitty time with child labour and horrible living standards.
User avatar #69731 to #69716 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/22/2014) [-]
libewal or fascist?
User avatar #69734 to #69731 - lordketchup (09/22/2014) [-]
me? neither
User avatar #69735 to #69734 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/22/2014) [-]
must be a commie den
User avatar #69736 to #69735 - lordketchup (09/22/2014) [-]
that ain't me
User avatar #69717 to #69716 - pebar (09/22/2014) [-]
Due to a lack of capital.
Every economy IN THE WORLD has to go through that stage of economic development. It was rapidly improving during that time. In places without capital accumulation that did regulate child labor, children either turned to prostitution or they starved.
#69707 to #69701 - mr skeltal (09/22/2014) [-]
Mistaking libertarianism for lawless ancap.

lel
User avatar #69705 to #69701 - schnizel (09/22/2014) [-]
pebar
economicfreedom
User avatar #69703 to #69701 - schnizel (09/22/2014) [-]
But, but muh free market will fix it.
User avatar #69711 to #69703 - pebar (09/22/2014) [-]
It actually does fix half of what was said.
#69690 - alimais (09/22/2014) [-]
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>mfw Turkey mad because huge refugee wave
that's what you get for not helping Bashar al Assad and letting "rebels" train in your country.

look at this syrianassassin
User avatar #69695 to #69690 - anonycunt (09/22/2014) [-]
I am a Bashar supporter but you have to respect Turkey for its role. I mean each nation will take the side that will benefit it. 70,000 refugees are a huge responsibility but they are Kurds. They wont be as much of a problem as radical rebels.
User avatar #69733 to #69695 - byposted (09/22/2014) [-]
You are being too impartial. Whatever opinions you possess are overshadowed by such "respect."

Respect Israel, for they have a purpose and "history," just like any other state. Respect Turkey, because they are merely pursuing their interests.

What of the composition, or quality? Do Israel's wants coincide with prosperity for the Levant? Has Turkey's role in Syria secured a future for the country, or has it brought about deep regression?
#69704 to #69695 - mr skeltal (09/22/2014) [-]
Turkey has bad history with their kurds as far as I know.

The radical rebels aren't a problem in in Turkey duo Turkey being one if not the most of the most important gateways for radicals from all over the world into Syria.
Every time some asshole from Europe leaves for Jihad he travels over Turkey.
#69691 to #69690 - syrianassassin (09/22/2014) [-]
ah god

the end of times is near.

and wtf.......

#69688 - mr skeltal (09/22/2014) [-]
#69759 to #69688 - mr skeltal (09/22/2014) [-]
WE POOP WITH FAT BEN
User avatar #69687 - eight (09/22/2014) [-]
Internet downloading: Films, Television and Music
Should it be legal or illegal?

This assumes that you do not plan to sell anything you download for financial gain.
User avatar #69712 to #69687 - pebar (09/22/2014) [-]
In general I think it should be illegal. Copyright is important IMO.
User avatar #69720 to #69712 - eight (09/22/2014) [-]
Copyright is important, but I find that it's primarily meant to protect from plagiarization.

Shouldn't downloads be treated more closely to fair use in terms of using it as intended? It's created for the purpose to be seen and heard. The more exposure it has, the more hype it receives, the more likely people will consider buying it or seeing it in a theater.
User avatar #69722 to #69720 - pebar (09/22/2014) [-]
I would think that decision should be up to the holder of the copyright.
For example, some lesser known musicians opt to do that, others don't.
User avatar #69730 to #69722 - eight (09/22/2014) [-]
Should people be punished then for downloading it anyway against the holders wishes? I think current laws need to adapt to the new ways we view entertainment.

And I'm not sure I'd agree that it's up to the holder to decide who gets to view their creations. They're in the wrong business if they create something that's meant to entertain others, and yet don't allow people to be entertained by it unless they purchase it outright.
For instance, we wouldn't punish a person for watching the new X-Men movie just because the DVD isn't owned by them, but rather their roommates. After all, they didn't personally purchase it. Technically, they are freeloading just as much as someone who downloads it online.

Controlling who gets to view it alienates a huge portion of their potential fanbase and potential buyers(mostly the poor who can't afford to take a chance on something they might not enjoy). I think that kind of outlook will hurt sales more than anything. They should have control who gets to buy or sell their creation, that's about it.

Clearly many artists, at least in the music field, are catching on to this, which is why we have so much free music on artists official channels and vevo like on youtube.
User avatar #69721 to #69720 - eight (09/22/2014) [-]
Not sure why I said plagiarization instead of plagiarism...
#69709 to #69687 - mr skeltal (09/22/2014) [-]
Regardless, people are going to download it anyways because they want to be able to watch that shit without having advertisements and intros shoved in their faces.
#69689 to #69687 - alimais (09/22/2014) [-]
I only buy stuff when I think the company/artist deserves the money
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