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#74464 - anonymous (12/20/2014) [-]
www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30546951

Kenya passes a security bill.

I know many of you probably don't know or care much about Kenyan politics. But do you think this seems like a legitimate concern for security? Or an attempt by the current government to discourage opposition and hold on to power?
#74468 to #74464 - cabbagemayhem ONLINE (12/20/2014) [-]
There's no legitimate reason to suppress the press.
User avatar #74465 to #74464 - schnizel (12/20/2014) [-]
Kunta kinte.
#74445 - alimais (12/20/2014) [-]
Did Stalin have his own holocaust ?    
I was looking at the victims of Stalins "Great Purge" and most of them look either Jewish or have Jewish names   
   
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
Did Stalin have his own holocaust ?
I was looking at the victims of Stalins "Great Purge" and most of them look either Jewish or have Jewish names

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
User avatar #74477 to #74445 - Shiny ONLINE (12/21/2014) [-]
Yeah, he was pretty much as much of a "fascist" as his right wing adversaries. Unfortunately, it's apparently fine to commit mass murder as long as you do it to your own constituents instead of the occupants of a different sovereign nation.

I cringe so hard my face collapses in on itself whenever other leftists try to apologize for the Khmer Rouge and shit.
User avatar #74473 to #74445 - levvy (12/21/2014) [-]
stalin might have had a bit of an anti jew bias. hating jews was also a bias of the time in the 30's everywhere in europe. when trotsky betrayed the soviet union things changed very much for jewish people living in the soviet union. all jewish members of the communist party were executed or deported - same for many jewish engineers, teachers, doctors, ect.

i would not say a holocaust, but orthodox jews did suffer more in comparison to orthodox christians in stalinist russia.
User avatar #74476 to #74473 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/21/2014) [-]
>trotsky betrayed the Soviet Union
Where the hell did you get that from?
User avatar #74469 to #74445 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/20/2014) [-]
As far as I'm aware, Stalin didn't target Jews I speak of family experience and limited historical knowledge that I have . He was a paranoid fuck who targeted everybody. It's communism so everyone suffers, equality.

Let us not forget that Stalin had people take care of business for him. Head of secret police type positions and all.

The difference is that the people themselves in Russia could have been quite antisemetic which could have drove off many Russian Jews. You don't just go from nation wide Jewish purges in the Tsarist era to communist equality in one revolution. However both my parents never were targeted for being Jews and as far as anybody they know too.

They really left like so many others did because Russia is just a shithole in general, end of story.
User avatar #74474 to #74469 - levvy (12/21/2014) [-]
you have no idea what you are saying
User avatar #74467 to #74445 - akkere ONLINE (12/20/2014) [-]
I'm not sure if Stalin orchestrated the Purge to target specifically the Jews, but there was a large degree of anti-semitism in the later stages of the Soviet Union that drove the ethnic group away and more towards the West if I recall correctly. There's quite a bit of them over here in New Jersey in certain small yet concentrated parts, as I've noticed.
Lulz could probably comment on the matter effectively, given his background.
#74449 to #74445 - anonymous (12/20/2014) [-]
muh holodomor
User avatar #74447 to #74445 - jewishcommunazi ONLINE (12/20/2014) [-]
After WW2, Stalin became worried about zionism. I highly doubt he'd be worried about jews and zionism before that, otherwise he wouldn't contribute to the creation of Israel. Also, Stalin openly condemned anti-semitism, as anti-semitism is opposed to communist ideals.
#74475 to #74447 - levvy (12/21/2014) [-]
even before ww2 it was pretty clear stalin preferred orthodox christianity over any other religious practices in the soviet union (he was raised orthodox christian). stalin ordered whole islamic and jewish communities to be deported or executed to prevent what he called "culture war".

during ww2 orthodox christians could be blessed by a priest before going to battle - islamic and jewish people in the soviet union did not get any blessing other then a christian blessing.
User avatar #74463 to #74447 - schnizel (12/20/2014) [-]
holdomodordornordormor
#74426 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/20/2014) [-]
Bu-bu-but muh [insert pro-hamas propaganda]
#74439 to #74426 - dehumanizer ONLINE (12/20/2014) [-]
>empty square of dirt circled in red
>hamas warcamp

do they allow autists in the JIDF now?
#74441 to #74439 - cabbagemayhem ONLINE (12/20/2014) [-]
Military training is usually done outdoors.
#74442 to #74441 - dehumanizer ONLINE (12/20/2014) [-]
so what, let me just get a map of new york and say central park is a military base
#74444 to #74442 - cabbagemayhem ONLINE (12/20/2014) [-]
So, the markings at least make sense in appearance. Are you just asking for sources now? I didn't know anyone was still refuting this, but I found this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_law_and_the_Gaza_War_%282008%E2%80%9309%29#Attacks_from_populated_areas
#74446 to #74444 - dehumanizer ONLINE (12/20/2014) [-]
no it fucking doesent, its probably just a space where a building once stood but was bombed and the rubble was cleared, all those black spots are ruins


this is just a bullshit reason to justify bombing civilians
User avatar #74454 to #74446 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/20/2014) [-]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_law_and_the_Gaza_War_%282008%E2%80%9309%29#Attacks_from_populated_areas
"The BBC reported on January 5 that "Witnesses and analysts confirm that Hamas fires rockets from within populated civilian areas.[22] Amnesty International assessed that Hamas fighters put civilians in danger by firing from homes.[117] United Nations Humanitarian Affairs Chief John Holmes accused Hamas of "reckless and cynical" use of civilian facilities during the hostilities in the Gaza Strip, and told that the above, as well as indiscriminate firing of rockets against civilian populations, are clear violations of International Humanitarian Law.[118] In the course of the fighting, purported evidencies of Hamas' exploitation of civilian infrastructure were recorded in ITIC reports.[119][120][121] A study by CSIS suggests that Hamas must share responsibility for the outcome on the civil population, as it seems to have relied on the population density of Gaza to both deter Israeli attacks, and as a defense against Israeli offensive.[25] Irwin Cotler said that attacks from within civilian areas and civilian structures in order to be immune from a response, e.g. apartment building, a mosque or a hospital, are unlawful; he argues that in these cases Hamas bears legal responsibility for the harm to civilians, as enshrined in general principles of International Humanitarian Law.[122] ITIC accused Hamas of making systematic use of protected civilian areas (including homes and mosques) for the hiding and storage of rockets, explosives and ammunition; using of civilian facilities (such as universities) for weapons development; calling on Palestinians to flock to targets which are expected to be attacked in order to form "human shields". ITIC states that such conduct contravenes the Laws of Armed Conflict and some of the practices above, e.g. Art. 8(2)(b)(xxiii) of the International Criminal Court, amount to a war crime"
#74456 to #74454 - dehumanizer ONLINE (12/20/2014) [-]
oh yeah becasue everything on wikipedia is true
#74457 to #74456 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/20/2014) [-]
Are you really that retarded? I just showed you the sources.
Are you really that retarded? I just showed you the sources.
#74458 to #74457 - dehumanizer ONLINE (12/20/2014) [-]
same "sources" said sadam had WMDs, same sources killed Ghaddafi and are trying to frame Assad
User avatar #74459 to #74458 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/20/2014) [-]
If you don't trust anything there is no point in conversing with you.
#74460 to #74459 - dehumanizer ONLINE (12/20/2014) [-]
where else do you suppose Hamas would reside, the middle of fucking tel aviv?
User avatar #74461 to #74460 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/20/2014) [-]
It's not Israels' problem where Hamas resides, if Hamas posses a danger by firing rockets they must be stopped. It's there responsibility as a government of Gaza to not put their own civilians in danger by mixing military/soldiers with civilians.
#74462 to #74461 - dehumanizer ONLINE (12/20/2014) [-]
They are just freedom fighters, on the other hand Jizzrael bombs everything to the ground on false allegations. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_law_and_the_Gaza_War_%282008%E2%80%9309%29#Attacks_on_civilians_and_civilian_objects_.28the_principle_of_distinction.29

they even dont let palestitians ride the bus in Israel, how tolerant and proggresive !
www.voanews.com/content/in-israel-palestinian-bus-ban-slammed-as-racist/2501706.html
#74466 to #74462 - cabbagemayhem ONLINE (12/20/2014) [-]
They're not freedom fighters. They're nothing but a bunch of terrorists who are in power by force. Not only is it well-documented that they launch rockets from schools, they use their own civilians as human shields. Israel drops leaflets to avoid civilian casualties, and Hamas tells them to ignore them, because they want their people to die for propaganda.

Hamas brainwashes their people from childhood to hate people they never met using children shows that resemble Sesame Street and Disney characters. They snatch up Israeli civilians for God knows what purpose. When Israel builds a wall, they dig into Israel to do it. They all of their gasoline, such that their people barely have any. They never stop wasting their people's resources to provoke their own destruction. And, when Israel decides enough is enough, Hamas cries oppression.

Don't tell me about how progressive Israel isn't, when Hamas is part of the discussion. The only thing Israel could do better is follow through, and remove Hamas from power, so the people could at least make up their own mind again.
#74471 to #74466 - dehumanizer ONLINE (12/21/2014) [-]
Not much diffrent than the terrorists on UN payroll known as the IDF, if someone bulldozed my house to build their's i'd be pritty pissed.

So inorder to stop them we must blow up all schools right? Inorder to stop hamas lets just blow up all of gaza, wait you're a kike, this braindead thinking is what's actualy in your head.

How the fuck do the palestinian children know what seasame street and disney are, they have no power, israel blew up the power station. Ofcourse they would dig under the wall, no one likes to live in a concentration camp.

The kikes should stop beeing so racist and treat palestinians better. Maybe then people wont consider blowing themselves up and ending their own lives just to kill a few snot-nosed flithy limpdicked kikes.
#74479 to #74471 - cabbagemayhem ONLINE (12/21/2014) [-]
I'm a Christian. Now, just because someone is willing to commit an atrocity, doesn't mean that their victim is bad. It means that they are bad. The IDF doesn't target schools, Hamas draws them into schools. Hamas intentionally gets their civilians killed for propaganda. That is well-known now. The walls are only there because Hamas wouldn't stop walking across to blow people up. The IDF aren't terrorists. If you can't see the difference, then you are blind and one-sided.

The land has been an area of contention for millennia, and the Jews are the oldest and longest recorded inhabitants of the region. According to Islam, Judaism, and Christianity, the Jews are not out-of-place on that land. It definitely doesn't belong to Palestinians enough to justify crimes against humanity. Islam is a violent and destructive religion. It doesn't know peace or love, and is blind to it wherever it is. All it wants to do is test and destroy God's creation, all men including themselves.
#74480 to #74479 - dehumanizer ONLINE (12/21/2014) [-]
holy shit how much of a JIDF are you
User avatar #74451 to #74446 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/20/2014) [-]
Are you trying to argue the image is fake when it's proved to not be? Are you really, really that stubborn?
#74452 to #74451 - dehumanizer ONLINE (12/20/2014) [-]
[citation needed]

and no dont give me some shitty idf link, i want real evidence
#74448 to #74446 - anonymous (12/20/2014) [-]
its probably just a space
-Dehumanizer Dec 20 2014

Your liberal transformation is going great. *rubs hands*
User avatar #74430 to #74426 - byposted (12/20/2014) [-]
Who stutters at a lack of an argument?
User avatar #74433 to #74430 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/20/2014) [-]
Is this a rhetorical question?
User avatar #74435 to #74433 - byposted (12/20/2014) [-]
I'm asking you for an argument. Is the picture supposed to contradict something?
User avatar #74437 to #74435 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/20/2014) [-]
False information... flat out lies... misconceptions? Some people are stupid or are lying.
#74427 to #74426 - anonymous (12/20/2014) [-]
shill
User avatar #74428 to #74427 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/20/2014) [-]
bu-bu-bu-bu-but m-mu-muh hamas is right!
#74425 - anonymous (12/19/2014) [-]
BILL WHITTLE: THE MURDERER IN THE KREMLIN

Food for thought.
User avatar #74429 to #74425 - byposted (12/20/2014) [-]
His video develops very much like a negro's accosting of the "White man" on slavery.

So much attention is given to historical trivia that one forgets the topic. This is related only briefly at the end, in an attempt to establish contemporary bearing.

>Blacks were shipped, in foul, cramped conditions to the United States, where they were obligated to endure heavy, arduous labor, for the benefit of the White man.
<Hence Blacks built America.
<Hence America is a racist country.
<Hence y'all should just feel guilty about that, and shut up.

Notice how history, in this type of argument, is limited to slavery. If one tries to reason with a proponent of it by saying that "times have changed," he will likely reference, or allude to, the mysterious "legacy of slavery."

>Bolshevik leaders, well versed in the French Revolution, founded the Cheka so as to purge political dissent. Terror as state doctrine, however, was never phased out. Stalin maintained a secret police force in the NKVD/NKGB under his Jewish henchman, Yagoda, who directed its bloody, internal affairs. Along with a string of successors, he relied upon lesser agents to do the state's dirty work. Putin would be one of these, making a name for himself in the later KGB.
<Hence Putin is a student of Yagoda.
<Hence Russia possess a foreign mentality.

Notice how history, here, is limited to the Soviet Union.

This neocon, Bill Whittle, fails to even mention what occurred in 1991, when the "KGB was renamed the FSB." He does not make known who appointed Putin to his post as the FSB's director. When he claims that Putin succeeded Yagoda "in an unbroken chain," the implication is that the Soviet Union never fell.

To kosher conservatives like Whittle, of course, it might as well have never fallen. Putin antagonized his lot, beyond redemption, when he dared to reclaim Russia from Exxon-Mobile, and Bill Clinton's various oligarch friends.
User avatar #74412 - alimais (12/19/2014) [-]
This had me giggling, tredbear levy

[eng cc subtitles] The Soldiers of Novorssia
User avatar #74491 to #74412 - tredbear (12/22/2014) [-]
thanks
User avatar #74424 to #74412 - feelythefeel (12/19/2014) [-]
That's some nice music.
User avatar #74411 - alimais (12/19/2014) [-]
How the KKK Preys on American Veterans: VICE Reports (Part 1) KKK Documentary
User avatar #74410 - pebar (12/19/2014) [-]
Mitchell and Webb - Kill The Poor Schnizel, youregaylol, what do y'all think about this
User avatar #74419 to #74410 - schnizel (12/19/2014) [-]
I imagine this is how you think.
#74422 to #74421 - pebar (12/19/2014) [-]
&gt;no child left behind 2.0
>no child left behind 2.0
User avatar #74417 to #74410 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/19/2014) [-]
schnizel would be dead
^ )
User avatar #74416 to #74410 - akkere ONLINE (12/19/2014) [-]
"We need them for all the things we don't fancy"
"Aren't you thinking of immigrants?"
tophue
User avatar #74407 - darealsnooki (12/19/2014) [-]
Let's discuss this whole Jesse Ventura vs Chris Kyle thing, shall we?
User avatar #74408 to #74407 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/19/2014) [-]
Jesse Ventura is a piece of shit who disrespected veterans at a funeral and should be run over with a car. Chris Kyle I feel really bad for because as you know he died, ironically he was the last survivor of his mission only to die a few years later. Sad.
#74440 to #74408 - dehumanizer ONLINE (12/20/2014) [-]
oy vey someone doesent like israeli grunts, shut him down!
User avatar #74450 to #74440 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/20/2014) [-]
I don't think you have any idea of what happened. Nor am I at all aware of Ventura's opinions on Israel.

What he literally did is when he went to a funeral, he disrespected the dead and talked about how the marines where immoral so he got rightfully punched in the face by Chris Kyle.

Why do you try to relate everything to Israel/the jews? I'm assuming yelling "oy vey" in public hasn't landed you a girlfriend.
#74453 to #74450 - dehumanizer ONLINE (12/20/2014) [-]
Becasue the marines are imoral so that soldier got rightfuly killed.
#74402 - anonymous (12/19/2014) [-]
Who would be the worst presidential nominees in 2016? By "worst", I don't mean who you'd hate to see president. But a candidate who would be unlikely to win or likely lose in a landslide because of frequent gaffes, extreme views that isolate moderates and centrists, or just not being a very captivating or charismatic speaker, etc.

Joe Biden would probably be the worst possible Democratic nominee. And I imagine most people would agree with that. It doesn't sound like anyone else has really expressed interest. They could have trouble finding a good candidate if Hillary decides against running.

Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, and Michelle Bachmann would all be awful choices on the Republican party's part. But I could really only see Rick Perry actually getting the nomination. And that's still pretty unlikely. But if Mitt Romney could, it's possible. Ted Cruz might also be a poor choice, I could see him isolating some Establishment Republicans.
User avatar #74413 to #74402 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (12/19/2014) [-]
Joe Biden is the king of Gaffe's and seems really unlikely to win. And i feel like as 2016 will be nearing Clinton will probably make a lot of poor campaign choices, combined with her hawish views it leaves her open to become unpopular. And aside from Biden, Clinton and Warren there really is no democratic candidate who seems even remotely close to having a chance.

For the Republican party tea partiers like Bachmann and Cruz are unlikely to win. Paul will depend on how he'll compromise his political views.
User avatar #74414 to #74413 - pebar (12/19/2014) [-]
Warren recently announced she will not be running
User avatar #74415 to #74414 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (12/19/2014) [-]
Welp she was pretty much the only Clinton rival i could think of.
User avatar #74436 to #74415 - hawaiianhappysauce (12/20/2014) [-]
Warren is a fucking hack. She would get no support from the moderates.
User avatar #74404 to #74402 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/19/2014) [-]
I'd go with Rand Paul as the best candidate. after that everyone is kinda shit. I guess someone from the libertarian party.
User avatar #74401 - mixednuts (12/19/2014) [-]
Can a news source be truly unbiased and objective?
User avatar #74470 to #74401 - akkere ONLINE (12/21/2014) [-]
Objective? Certainly.
Unbiased? Probably not.
It boils down to writing style; if a writer is simply putting down the facts as they hear it and not bother trifling in statements of flair and perspective, then they can certainly achieve the necessity of objectivity.
However, bias will always be a problem. Screen time, article time, etc, is limited, so certain facts need more time than others, and some may present more value to them at the expense of others. That's why it's necessary that we have numerous news sources accessible to the public rather than leave an individual to be connected and isolated to a single news source.

Basically, you can go straight to the point and cut to the chase, but it's unlikely you'll be able to cut to the chase in an equal manner.
User avatar #74405 to #74401 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/19/2014) [-]
obvious answer
User avatar #74400 - ribocoon (12/19/2014) [-]
Thoughts on Ron Paul?
User avatar #74409 to #74400 - pebar (12/19/2014) [-]
I like him even though he's a bit extreme.
User avatar #74406 to #74400 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/19/2014) [-]
He is too old to fix broken pussy and too old to run.
User avatar #74394 - zehutit (12/18/2014) [-]
I dont know f this is the appropriate board but.. If theres anyone here who feels that knows enough about the business of stocks/shares (buying and selling) and would feel up to answering some questions to a noob I would appreciate it very much
User avatar #74395 to #74394 - nigalthornberry (12/18/2014) [-]
I can tell you what to buy but not how to
User avatar #74397 to #74395 - zehutit (12/18/2014) [-]
what price ranges are these that you refer to and how is it that you become informed of them?
User avatar #74398 to #74397 - nigalthornberry (12/18/2014) [-]
It varies from what to buy
I predicted that Facebook would be good to buy when it was at $20 and it turned out pretty good. Although Currently I would stay away from it
4chan has a finance/business board that I'd check out
User avatar #74399 to #74398 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/18/2014) [-]
Bu-bu-bu-bu-but 4-4-4ch-4chan is... scary man. I'm ju-ju-ju-just a wedditor.
User avatar #74387 - schnizel (12/18/2014) [-]
Will WW3 happen?
User avatar #74431 to #74387 - byposted (12/20/2014) [-]
What do you consider to constitute "world war?" War amongst Western powers? These are declining by the day, and their coming scuffles will be insignificant relative to events in Asia.

Unless nuclear weapons are employed, of course.
User avatar #74443 to #74431 - schnizel (12/20/2014) [-]
Full out war.
User avatar #74396 to #74387 - nigalthornberry (12/18/2014) [-]
Eventually
User avatar #74393 to #74387 - ablueguy (12/18/2014) [-]
Probably
And that shit will suck
User avatar #74391 to #74390 - schnizel (12/18/2014) [-]
No means yes.
#74418 to #74391 - anonymous (12/19/2014) [-]
AND YES MEANS FAT BEN'S POOP
#74388 to #74387 - anonymous (12/18/2014) [-]
yes.
User avatar #74385 to #74376 - schnizel (12/18/2014) [-]
>Republika Srpska
I live in Federacija.
User avatar #74378 to #74376 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/18/2014) [-]
Jesus what a shithole.
User avatar #74373 - plumpbooty (12/18/2014) [-]
GOOD GOY
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G
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Y
User avatar #74370 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/18/2014) [-]
Spider-Woman's Big Ass is a Big Deal! I love this guy.
#74386 to #74370 - anonymous (12/18/2014) [-]
Said no one ever about you
#74389 to #74386 - anonymous (12/18/2014) [-]
salty.
#74368 - anonymous (12/17/2014) [-]
NK confirmed for supreme overlords
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30526406
User avatar #74365 - PopcornViking ONLINE (12/17/2014) [-]
marco rubio just fuck off already

its about time we allowed travel to cuba
#74366 to #74365 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/17/2014) [-]
dat vacation moneyz
dat vacation moneyz
User avatar #74367 to #74366 - PopcornViking ONLINE (12/17/2014) [-]
no but seriously

what is this with "rewarding the castro regime"

nobody besides the castros and their close friends even wants to be there anymore
we dont have to let them be able to immigrate here but at least let them get off the island
User avatar #74371 to #74367 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/18/2014) [-]
wait wait wait stop. Whatever happens, we dont need more immigrants.
#74337 - anonymous (12/17/2014) [-]
arstechnica.com/business/2014/12/shadowy-anti-net-neutrality-group-submitted-56-5-of-comments-to-fcc/

Man, Liberals sure do exaggerate the insidiousness and dishonesty of the Koch brothers, right guys? Manufacturing consent and support is nbd.
User avatar #74363 to #74337 - pebar (12/17/2014) [-]
Didn't John Oliver do the exact same thing?
User avatar #74341 to #74337 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (12/17/2014) [-]
Oh no a group encourages people to speak up for their opinions how horrifying Koch brothers are literally Hitler.
#74342 to #74341 - anonymous (12/17/2014) [-]
Because anyone who's properly informed would be against net neutrality.
Those web developers don't know shit. We should be listening to technological experts like the Kochs or Mark Cuban.
#74379 to #74342 - youregaylol (12/18/2014) [-]
lol, what shitty logic.

"Because anyone who's properly informed would be against (insert thing i don't like)."

im not arguing about the actual topic, just pointing that out.
User avatar #74343 to #74342 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (12/17/2014) [-]
Yes because retards like the oatmeal totally are more knowledged on the subject compared to people who actually understand basic economics.
#74345 to #74343 - anonymous (12/17/2014) [-]
What about the people who you know, actually run websites and work in the tech industry? Not the out of touch inheritors of daddy's will, or a self-absorbed sports investor.

This is going to seem like ad hominem, but are there any independent thoughts in your head? You were such a rank and file Liberal Social Democrat. And now you're the stereotypical Libertarian who will always choose corporate rights over individual rights, everything you write reads like it came right out of a Mises article.
User avatar #74346 to #74345 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (12/17/2014) [-]
Lol i was never a Social democrat, in fact it's social democrats who support corporate cronyism over the individual. I used to be more left-wing yes but social democrat?

Technology itself is largely irrelevant to the debate. Nearly everyone would agree that equally fast internet is a good thing. The debate is whether the government should be involved with the regulation which is a debate based on economics. Which to i say instead of letting the government hold the power and continue to destroy and stifle competition we should actively allow for a cronyless free market in the broadband industry and give people the choice to go for a broadband which has or hasn't got net neutrality. Besides most ISP's have been neutral without regulation until this debacle showed up.
#74380 to #74346 - youregaylol (12/18/2014) [-]
I knew there was a reason i always associated your name with stupidity, even though I didn't find anything you posted recently stupid. You were a leftist at one point, I must've been remembering your old posts.

It seems that the right wing is like a magnet, drawing everyone deeper into it. I used to be like pebar, but now im more like schnizel.

Very strange.
User avatar #74384 to #74380 - schnizel (12/18/2014) [-]
Tu Fui, Ego Eris.
User avatar #74381 to #74380 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (12/18/2014) [-]
I think it's more like a polarizing magnet. SJW's and politically correct nuts push sensible people away from their ideology.
#74383 to #74381 - youregaylol (12/18/2014) [-]
Ever heard the saying "when you stare into the abyss long enough, it stares back at you."?

Well when it does stare back at you you have two options. You can either turn away in disgust, and get as far away from it as you can, or you can jump in.

When you consume propaganda your heart either hardens and rejects it completely, or it softens and embraces everything it has been told.
User avatar #74359 to #74346 - pebar (12/17/2014) [-]
Also, we had net neutrality for the most part until recently. I believe a bunch of court cases destroyed it.
User avatar #74358 to #74346 - pebar (12/17/2014) [-]
The net neutrality debate isn't about competitive markets, its about monopolies.
User avatar #74361 to #74358 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (12/17/2014) [-]
Well the discussion of monopolies and competitive market and directly connected to each other since monopolies stand in direct opposition to a competitive market (at least unnatural monopolies)
User avatar #74362 to #74361 - pebar (12/17/2014) [-]
ISPs aren't unnatural monopolies though. Like most other utility providers, they are natural monopolies.
You can't have a bunch of companies each dig up the ground, lay their own cables, then have a customer only pick one. So there are a lot of start up costs.
User avatar #74364 to #74362 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (12/17/2014) [-]
Like any company starting up requires risks and costs to get it going, but it's not as difficult as people make it out to be. In the UK villagers in Lyddington, Rutland, have banded together and raised the capital to lease BT's services and lay their own fibre-optic cables, turning their internet no-go zone into a digitally connected hub that offers the 200 homes in the village download speeds of up to 40Mbps. And there are other alternatives as well. I mean just look at how the telecommunication market went from only a few competitors to thousands of competitors.
#74330 - levvy (12/17/2014) [-]
not even 25 years of capitalism and it already failed, ruble is literally shit. its like the real world equivalent of bitcoin lol

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30492505
User avatar #74369 to #74330 - tredbear (12/18/2014) [-]
To be honest, I think the next big war is not too far around the corner, you got the ISIS war in the middle East, Iran wanting to destroy Israel, Ukraine fighting Pro Russian rebels, Russia seeking diplomatic pacts with Serbia, Cuba, and North Korea.
#74375 to #74369 - anonymous (12/18/2014) [-]
>Serbia
>Cuba
>North Korea

Let's hope they don't invite Abkhazia to the pact or the West will surely fall.
#74348 to #74330 - anonymous (12/17/2014) [-]
oh boy, it's war time.
oh boy, it's war time.
User avatar #74338 to #74330 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/17/2014) [-]
>not even 25 years of capitalism and it already failed
>forgetting sanctions
#74350 to #74338 - levvy (12/17/2014) [-]
soviet union had much harder conditions when it was created. it lasted much longer and have better strides then capitalism has here. 25 years of soviet rule and russia was a world power, capitalism un did all the work, 1895 here we come!
#74432 to #74350 - byposted (12/20/2014) [-]
>25 years of soviet rule and russia was a world power

Indeed, it took 25 years to undo the damage of the Revolution.
User avatar #74392 to #74350 - schnizel (12/18/2014) [-]
Damn, so, you mean, your war machine failed and your country collapsed?
#74382 to #74350 - anonymous (12/18/2014) [-]
Get rid of the non proliferation treaty and maybe the west will fuck off.
User avatar #74355 to #74350 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/17/2014) [-]
Yeah just forget about all the lives lost during the process.

Russia is a country in my personal opinion that cannot succeed because of the people. Russians are vial, rude, disgusting people who I personally think have a barbaric culture and cant handle democracy yet.

I can attest to this because my whole family is Russian including me. Thank god I don't live in that stupid shithole.
User avatar #74434 to #74355 - byposted (12/20/2014) [-]
The best retort here is not that people died in the process of industrialization, but that Tsarist Russia was a world power. Levvy's glorious Revolution stripped the country of this status, such that Stalin would not even consider himself relevant in European affairs until he signed non-aggression pact with Germany.

Why should Russians embrace liberal-democracy at a time when its destructive products have clearly manifested themselves in Western Europe?
User avatar #74438 to #74434 - lulzformalaysiaair (12/20/2014) [-]
Yeah well Tsarist Russia wasn't all that good too. You know, the jewish purges I'm sure you don't care which is understandable ... And monarchy in general is retarded honestly.
User avatar #74357 to #74355 - levvy (12/17/2014) [-]
the emotional jews that left in the late 80's and 90's were nothing lost. you can complain about how shit it is all you want. jews do nothing but complain, it changes nothing.
User avatar #74336 to #74330 - mixednuts (12/17/2014) [-]
But I thought mighty Putin laughed at puny sanctions.
User avatar #74352 to #74336 - levvy (12/17/2014) [-]
he wanted the sanctions to help him nationalize, it failed
User avatar #74334 to #74330 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (12/17/2014) [-]
It has fallen by 50% so far this year against the dollar- 20% this week alone. That's insane. Just another example of keynesian fiat currency collapsing onto itself.
User avatar #74349 to #74347 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (12/17/2014) [-]
They where hoarding gold because they knew it was inevitable that the ruble would fall especially considering the russian economy is so reliant on oil. In fact the ruble has been going down for a long time and the sactions was just the last push it needed to collapse. It amazes me that people are surprised by this.
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