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User avatar #35935 - akamrhood (06/20/2013) [-]
What is everyones opinion on social welfare in America? Keep it? Destroy it? Slowly move people off of it?
User avatar #35951 to #35935 - Shiny ONLINE (06/20/2013) [-]
Ultimately, I think that the welfare state is just a downside of a successful capitalistic society. We really do need to reform it, though, since as it is, the welfare system traps people into it and honest to god makes it impossible to leave without a truly substantial increase in private income that no sane person should expect coming.

There's always going to be people abusing the system, but they're generally the minority. There are also plenty of trust fund babies living off of their parents' money, that doesn't mean most rich people don't work hard to succeed.
#35930 - oxan (06/20/2013) [-]
Standing Man quitted his Stand after 8.5 hours. Not because he's tired but he was circled with other volunteer Standing Men and Women and the police stated if a crowd occurs, this turns the individual protest into a organized protest which they are ordered to interfere. So the Standing Man stopped 'Standing' to prevent any intervention. But he had only sparked the wildfire, numerous Standing People came up everywhere in Turkey. They 'stand' with a distance which the police cannot count the protest as a demostration. The 'Stand' still goes on.

Probably Turkey is the only country that you be take to the custody because of 'standing'. This shows the situation of the justice system here and proves it's not important how you make your protest, actually they don't care if you're making it violent way or not. It's who you're making it against. I have no confidence to our democracy, neither justice. The government has to got stopped before they annihilate freedom and democratic gains entirely.
User avatar #35983 to #35930 - CapnInterwebz (06/20/2013) [-]
Shit really went down fast in Turkey, didn't it?
#35968 to #35930 - akkere (06/20/2013) [-]
Interesting form of protest, with an interesting loophole to make it a legal one.
#35932 to #35930 - valeriya (06/20/2013) [-]
And now we wait for the coup or civil war.
#35916 - pebar (06/20/2013) [-]
found this browsing the comments section
#35906 - feelythefeel (06/20/2013) [-]
Advice of the wheneverIfeellikeit: Some would have you believe that in times of war, the most demand lies in the soldier. The truth of the matter is that for every soldier that marches, there are at least ten who provide him his gun, and at least one hundred who provide him his bread. An army is nothing but a waste without a nation of workers to both protect, and in turn, be protected by.
#35909 to #35906 - anonymous (06/20/2013) [-]
tell that to north korea
User avatar #35917 to #35909 - oxan (06/20/2013) [-]
Funnily enough, North Korean state ideology is a 'military-first' ideology.
User avatar #35908 to #35906 - pebar (06/20/2013) [-]
Those same people who provide the bread and the tools also provide for the general population. The government is just another customer.
(still funded by tax payers so society still contributes, though indirectly)
#35907 to #35906 - valeriya (06/20/2013) [-]
I don't think anyone would deny that any war effort is a collective effort, as far as modern war is concerned there are no civilians, unless you are sitting in a plaza refusing to work until the war is over you are contributing to the war effort.
User avatar #35929 to #35907 - oxan (06/20/2013) [-]
Indeed. I'm not comfortable, however, with considering those on the home front legitimate targets, though.
#35931 to #35929 - valeriya (06/20/2013) [-]
At the end of the day they're tools in the war effort, a government can not continue a war without support of its citizens otherwise they'll find themselves being overthrown if you break the citizens you end the war, sometimes it's as simple as a terrible lost battle other times you have to destroy the entire country before the citizens will give up, even then you're likely to face resistance movements, it's all about asserting yourself properly, go too far you'll have the citizens supporting the war further, don't go far enough they'll continue fighting you've got to get it just right.
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User avatar #35903 - reretzu (06/20/2013) [-]
I want to hear politics boards opinion on the government funding NASA, should they found them more? less? at all? What should they cut to fund more?
User avatar #35904 to #35903 - pebar (06/20/2013) [-]
The only reason we funded it before was to develop missile technology during the Cold War. If humanity wants to research space, it should be an international project.
User avatar #35934 to #35904 - akamrhood (06/20/2013) [-]
Somalia can contribute 2 camels and a boat! What nice people.... So now we have the materials to build the docking bay. what else will we need in order to build a functioning space station funded by the international community?
User avatar #35896 - pebar (06/20/2013) [-]
Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

I've decided to support arming the rebels in Syria based on ideals even though chances are it will backfire against the US. The French and Spanish help the colonies during our revolution so it's only fitting. It would be hypocrisy for the US not to help.
User avatar #35918 to #35896 - oxan (06/20/2013) [-]
It's not necessarily a 'popular movement', pebar. Arming the rebels is retarded - they're terrorists.
User avatar #35920 to #35918 - pebar (06/20/2013) [-]
If you lived under a tyrannical government and you chose to rebel, would you use guerrilla warfare and bombs, or would you attack the formal military head on?
Of course they're terrorists...
User avatar #35921 to #35920 - oxan (06/20/2013) [-]
They're terrorists in the very negative sense of the world. They're not freedom fighters, they're not good guys worthy of support, they're plain terrorists.

In the Syrian conflict, the best option is to abstain.
User avatar #35922 to #35921 - pebar (06/20/2013) [-]
hmm....
Well it's 4:30 am and I'm pretty tired. I'll give the issue more thought.
User avatar #35923 to #35922 - oxan (06/20/2013) [-]
Just remember, pebar, you don't have to pick a side.
User avatar #35925 to #35923 - pebar (06/20/2013) [-]
I don't like being indifferent on issues because it would mean my philosophy is incomplete.
#36040 to #35925 - anonymous (06/20/2013) [-]
Not picking a side does not necessarily mean you are indifferent. Sometimes a proper choice lies in the center. Sometimes it even lies outside of the presented spectrum.
User avatar #35927 to #35925 - oxan (06/20/2013) [-]
It's not a very good philosophy if you force yourself to take a side.
User avatar #35897 to #35896 - undeadwill (06/20/2013) [-]
That was when we were a tiny backwoods colony rebelling however the moment when we rule around the world we become the very empire we hated and fought.
User avatar #35899 to #35898 - undeadwill (06/20/2013) [-]
Peace, diplomacy, and trade are our tools. If we do not seek a nonintervention foreign policy we will head down the road of the empire and fall as all empires do.
#35901 to #35899 - pebar (06/20/2013) [-]
I shall reconsider my decision
User avatar #35902 to #35901 - undeadwill (06/20/2013) [-]
This move is wise.
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User avatar #35881 to #35878 - undeadwill (06/20/2013) [-]
I was never here.gif
User avatar #35882 to #35881 - oxan (06/20/2013) [-]
Likewise.
User avatar #35883 to #35882 - undeadwill (06/20/2013) [-]
They will be so confused.
User avatar #35885 to #35884 - undeadwill (06/20/2013) [-]
You will never know.
#35893 to #35885 - akkere (06/20/2013) [-]
You can't hide forever.
#35894 to #35893 - undeadwill (06/20/2013) [-]
.....I hate you so much.
User avatar #35887 to #35886 - undeadwill (06/20/2013) [-]
You will never know.

No amount of red thumbs will change this you nigger crab.
#35888 to #35887 - CapnInterwebz (06/20/2013) [-]
i thumbed you guys back up   
   
Nevertheless, que?
i thumbed you guys back up

Nevertheless, que?
#35891 to #35890 - undeadwill (06/20/2013) [-]
That is so my face.
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User avatar #35876 to #35875 - pebar (06/20/2013) [-]
hue
User avatar #35879 to #35876 - undeadwill (06/20/2013) [-]
hue hue
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User avatar #35850 - pebar (06/20/2013) [-]
What do you people think of Sean Hannity?
User avatar #35853 to #35850 - byposted (06/20/2013) [-]
Shill. Micheal Savage, the non-shill, is about to start his show, by the way.
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Typical Hannity show:
Banghazzziii, Muh boner, Israael's special bond with conserrrvatives.

Hannity doing stand up comedy:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=klQfRznxP2E
User avatar #35855 to #35853 - byposted (06/20/2013) [-]
Although he is listenable.
User avatar #35826 - pebar (06/19/2013) [-]
I had a dream involving Marx during my nap today... it was weird
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User avatar #35854 to #35831 - oxan (06/20/2013) [-]
Giggled.
User avatar #35832 to #35831 - pebar (06/19/2013) [-]
It had absolutely nothing to do with communism. The dream was set in colonial America where the British were still oppressive, but technology was modern. So we were driving around sabotaging the British and going on other various adventures. He just happened to be Marx.
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#35798 - logickid ONLINE (06/19/2013) [-]
So the dictator of Turkey is blaming all the riots on Twitter

Obviously you don't know how to fucking run a country.
#35837 to #35798 - anonymous (06/20/2013) [-]
THE RIOTS WERE ACTUALLY CAUSED BY FAT BEN'S POOP
User avatar #35821 to #35798 - akkere (06/19/2013) [-]
Well, he's not entirely wrong; without networking sites such as Twitter, YouTube, and the like, people wouldn't be able to connect to each other and rally themselves to perform most of the revolts that have been going on in the Middle East.

Of course, they wouldn't be so pissed if he wasn't a jack-off.
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User avatar #35863 to #35792 - medewu ONLINE (06/20/2013) [-]
Yeah doesn't bother me, and also Experiments on humans, just like Death Row inmates who are going to die anyways. might as well test on them. but that's just how I see things.
User avatar #35861 to #35792 - fuckya (06/20/2013) [-]
Legal but regulated.
I'd be cool with human experimentation if the people willingly joined.
User avatar #35815 to #35792 - teoberry (06/19/2013) [-]
Legal, but regulated. If it's important medicine, go ahead. However, the animals need to be taken care of. No cages or that shit. Treat them humanely.
User avatar #35814 to #35792 - jadewest (06/19/2013) [-]
if its regulated yes it should be legal
User avatar #35812 to #35792 - rageisfunny (06/19/2013) [-]
Yes. They're animals. We harvest them for food and use them for other tasks, why not this one?
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User avatar #35860 to #35813 - rageisfunny (06/20/2013) [-]
Well disagree. They're animals. If they are a cheaper, safer, more effective way to test things go for it.
User avatar #35803 to #35792 - Shiny ONLINE (06/19/2013) [-]
Sure, but there's a limit. There's a world of difference between killing animals to test potentially life saving medicine and to test some tacky makeup.
User avatar #35794 to #35792 - akamrhood (06/19/2013) [-]
I'm conflicted
No, because I have a soft spot for animals. Yes, because logically it makes sense to test to see if a product is harmful to humans by testing it on animals.

awh... im sad now
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User avatar #35796 to #35795 - akamrhood (06/19/2013) [-]
Its more emotional confliction then logical confliction. Testing on animals makes total sense, I support it becuase i dont want to drink the new mtn dew and suddenly grow a third nipple. But the idea of seeing an animal in pain makes me angry and sad.
Ill just stick my fingers in my ears and go lalalalalallalalalallalalalallalallalalalallalalalala
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User avatar #35720 - pebar (06/19/2013) [-]
Should the US convert to metric?
User avatar #35867 to #35720 - undeadwill (06/20/2013) [-]
We should move toward that system.
User avatar #35851 to #35720 - CapnInterwebz (06/20/2013) [-]
I don't see why not
User avatar #35824 to #35720 - oxan (06/19/2013) [-]
Yes.
User avatar #35817 to #35720 - akkere (06/19/2013) [-]
We kind of already are in the metric system, most professional careers regarding science and engineering will use the metric system in the same way that most science classes will teach it (at least, the high school and college I've attended used it). The Imperial system just coexists a lot more heavily than the metric, but I'd say we're gradually converting as it becomes more integrated within school curriculum.
User avatar #35747 to #35720 - mykoira (06/19/2013) [-]
i think it should, but not now, when the economy is so unstable.
User avatar #35731 to #35720 - akamrhood (06/19/2013) [-]
I enjoy my system of abstract number conversions. It make me feel more american and less other nationly.
#35729 to #35720 - anonymous (06/19/2013) [-]
IT SHOULD CONVERT TO FAT BEN'S POOP
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User avatar #35683 - akamrhood (06/19/2013) [-]
Let us pretend that you started your own nation with about a population around 100 million people. What kind of government would you set up that would best suit your needs as a leader and the needs of the people you lead? Explain.
User avatar #35827 to #35683 - oxan (06/19/2013) [-]
>Establish workers' state
>Begin building socialism

And go from there. I'd need to know more about my environment and stuff. But anyway, free healthcare, free housing, large welfare state, etc, etc, etc.
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User avatar #35768 to #35745 - akamrhood (06/19/2013) [-]
Why is that?
User avatar #35690 to #35683 - Major Mayhem (06/19/2013) [-]
Industrialized Socialism. Everyone works for the greater good of the people, no welfare, no unemployment, No government aid (barring the physically crippled, they would still work desk jobs of sorts). No one gets a free ride. If you are able bodied, you grab a shovel and pave a road. If you are skilled (educated) , you may do what you learned in school, start a business, etc.. Free enterprise, with strong restrictions over companies in order to prevent large scale monopolies. Benefits for military (retirement pension). Also, secular gov't, we don't need to play world police.
User avatar #35701 to #35690 - akamrhood (06/19/2013) [-]
Would you still allow civil liberties and rights to the people? (Sort of like America) or would you put lots of restrictions on the people on what they can and can't do?
User avatar #35703 to #35701 - Major Mayhem (06/19/2013) [-]
Laissez faire. More or less, it'd be, keep your nose clean and the gov will leave you be. None of this prism tapping bull shit, or marching cops down the street pointing guns at civilians. So to answer your question, yes.
User avatar #35708 to #35703 - akamrhood (06/19/2013) [-]
So just curious now.
What would be your prison system be like? Would you have it like America does with large penitinaries around the nation punsihing the people that did wrong? or would you be like norway, where its more about rehibilitation? Or just fucking kill all that have done wrong in the extreme?
User avatar #35714 to #35708 - Major Mayhem (06/19/2013) [-]
The punishments would be different, depending on the crime, things like stealing, grand theft auto (pettier crimes) would be treated as minor punishments, jail time mostly. The thing that will set apart my prisons are the punishment levels. Nothing near what america's system is like, think more gulag-esqe. Sexual crimes will be met with harsher punishments, increased jail time, humiliation, and everyone will know (and I mean everyone) that they are sex offenders, it will make you look like a shameful POS for what you did. Crimes such as murder (not necessarily including manslaughter) will be met with a death penalty, unless a case can be made that it was purely in self defense.
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User avatar #35868 to #35726 - undeadwill (06/20/2013) [-]
How about no.
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User avatar #35869 to #35728 - undeadwill (06/20/2013) [-]
Why don't we just kill them?
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User avatar #35750 to #35733 - Major Mayhem (06/19/2013) [-]
refer to the 3 strike system.
User avatar #35715 to #35714 - akamrhood (06/19/2013) [-]
It is could to see that there are people out there that still believe in the death penalty. Would you have a strike out system? Like you commited 3 crimes around the same level so you get the death penalty! muahaha
User avatar #35716 to #35715 - Major Mayhem (06/19/2013) [-]
Well, yes, but only for sexual crimes, petty crimes shouldn't result in your demise.
#35688 to #35683 - valeriya (06/19/2013) [-]
I make the nation one big arena for 7 days, pretty much battle royale, those that live get to live like kings from the revenue we've brought in seeing the show.
User avatar #35700 to #35688 - akamrhood (06/19/2013) [-]
Like a nation wide Hunger Games. Fucking love it. But the only weapon are aloud to have is a shovel. So it would be called the Shovel Games!
#35702 to #35700 - valeriya (06/19/2013) [-]
No more battle royale have around 1 million winners, you need to watch that film if you enjoyed hunger games.
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There now watch people stab shoot and maim the shit out of each other for a day or two.
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User avatar #35828 to #35678 - oxan (06/19/2013) [-]
You know in the rap battle when he's called a 'man of steel'? Yeah, I only found out Stalin meant that recently.
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#35679 to #35678 - valeriya (06/19/2013) [-]
Really, only now have you realized this?
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#35682 to #35680 - valeriya (06/19/2013) [-]
Did you even listen to that rap you sent me.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT2z0nrsQ8o
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#35685 to #35684 - valeriya (06/19/2013) [-]
I think you may be over thinking this one.
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#35687 to #35686 - valeriya (06/19/2013) [-]
It's like looking at this and going, "I get it, there's a pre required amount of knowledge to comprehend this!" When in reality there really isn't it's just a goat with guns, that's all there is and all you need to know in order to find it humorous.
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User avatar #35862 to #35723 - undeadwill (06/20/2013) [-]
Why don't you like a citizen of Mother Russia? Why do you do this to a fellow comrade?
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User avatar #35969 to #35915 - undeadwill (06/20/2013) [-]
Well..... He was right on the line of collectivism.
Nationalist socialist.
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User avatar #36050 to #36049 - undeadwill (06/20/2013) [-]
The following are socialist programs.
Healthcare, welfare, public education, and etc.

Hitler wasn't against socialism just the communists who tried to start a revolution in Germany what he hated were the genetically weak (and any attempt to help them) Jews and the Versade treaty
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User avatar #36187 to #36060 - undeadwill (06/20/2013) [-]
Socialism can coexist with authoritarianism in fact it works quiet well with it. The people become dependent on the stability of the existence of the state and will violently appose any attempt to over throw it. They become a member of the cult of the state. While neo-libertarians dislike any form of government power and are willing to destroy the state when it threatens business. Thus people are more likely to fight back with every little thing government tries to do.
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User avatar #36191 to #36188 - undeadwill (06/21/2013) [-]
Self reliance ad individualism is the basis of freedom.
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User avatar #36433 to #36429 - undeadwill (06/21/2013) [-]
"Wage Slavery" Define how this is slavery in a modern society with unions.
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User avatar #36438 to #36435 - undeadwill (06/21/2013) [-]
Not really. Some people can grow what they need, work for what they want, and etc. Hell you even have the option to beg for money (which actually makes good money in the states)
But when you say work is a right you mean it is a duty and compulsion you have no choice to opt out.

Work is always necessary in any society.
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User avatar #35829 to #35671 - oxan (06/19/2013) [-]
Haven't looked into either him or Chavez. Apparently, though, he's a weaker leader.
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#35566 - feelythefeel (06/19/2013) [-]
ITT: Canada. Love it? Hate it? Want to rip its nuts off and feed them to its dog? You tell me.
#35848 to #35566 - repostsrepost ONLINE (06/20/2013) [-]
Eh, It's a nice hat most times.
User avatar #35721 to #35566 - teoberry (06/19/2013) [-]
Considering I live there (Alberta, the best part), I love it. Only law I can think of changing is slightly looser concealed carry laws.
User avatar #35725 to #35721 - feelythefeel (06/19/2013) [-]
I personally like BC better, although that may be because I live in the Gulf Islands. Not much beats the Gulf Islands.

Where in Alberta do you live? I use to live in the Red Deer area, so much crime for such a rural area.
User avatar #35727 to #35725 - teoberry (06/19/2013) [-]
Calgary. Red Deer has a big problem with biker gangs. Fort MacMurry is going to explode with crime soon tho, I can feel it. All the oil workers there are bored as fuck, so the drug trade is getting big there.
User avatar #35732 to #35727 - feelythefeel (06/19/2013) [-]
Things are really calm here with next to no crime, but I don't hear much about other parts of the province like Vancouver.
User avatar #35739 to #35732 - teoberry (06/19/2013) [-]
My dad works in oil/gas, so I hear this shit all the time. Also, the islands in general around BC are beautiful. That and Northern Ontario are my two fav. vacation spots.
User avatar #35741 to #35739 - feelythefeel (06/19/2013) [-]
All right, cool. Glad to hear from you about it, and glad to know that my enjoyment of this place is slightly more objective.
User avatar #35567 to #35566 - Major Mayhem (06/19/2013) [-]
I like some of their policies ie universal health care, but I feel like some other things are too loose, like becoming an illegal alien is incredibly easy. Also, legalized Marijuana.
User avatar #35718 to #35567 - teoberry (06/19/2013) [-]
It's not legal, but in some places (Vancouver) cops just don't give a fuck about it. Everyone smokes it, they don't have enough people to enforce it.
User avatar #35568 to #35567 - feelythefeel (06/19/2013) [-]
What about legalised marijuana? The way you worded it is confusing.
User avatar #35569 to #35568 - Major Mayhem (06/19/2013) [-]
I am strongly against it. I think it breeds generations of unproductive oxygen thieves.
#35578 to #35569 - oxan (06/19/2013) [-]
For slightly different reasons.
User avatar #35663 to #35578 - Major Mayhem (06/19/2013) [-]
Explain.
User avatar #35818 to #35663 - oxan (06/19/2013) [-]
I too strongly oppose marijuana legalisation.
User avatar #36053 to #35818 - Major Mayhem (06/20/2013) [-]
For what reasons though?
User avatar #36161 to #36053 - oxan (06/20/2013) [-]
It's uncivilised, it's numbing, it breeds those merely content.
User avatar #36163 to #36161 - Major Mayhem (06/20/2013) [-]
Couldn't agree more.
User avatar #35570 to #35569 - feelythefeel (06/19/2013) [-]
Much worse could be said for alcohol and tobacco, and yet it's not just legal, it's pushed on you. I'm not for marijuana legalisation, just its decriminalization.
User avatar #35571 to #35570 - Major Mayhem (06/19/2013) [-]
I also forgot to mention that I agree with canada's drinking policy. I myself am in the US Military and I'm 19. The fact that I could sign on for my country, potentially die, and not even be able to enjoy a beer or some rum is ridiculous. Also, I don't believe that weed should be decriminalized, referring back to my previous comment.
User avatar #35572 to #35571 - feelythefeel (06/19/2013) [-]
I'd rather be an oxygen thief than an actual thief. Usually when you use marijuana (Incredible stress on usually) the only person your hurting is yourself. The same just can't be said about many other drugs, including alcohol.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't touch the stuff with a five foot long stick. I just don't see the point in going through the trouble of fighting it when there isn't that much harm to be had in the first place.
User avatar #35573 to #35572 - Major Mayhem (06/19/2013) [-]
I agree with some of that, the only problem between alcohol and weed is, you can drink 1 or 2 beers and still retain some lucidity (whether or not you can handle it) if you smoke any amount of weed, you get high and it makes you physically care less about things, such as working or being an overall productive citizen. Also, alcohol is regulated to some degree in most countries such as no drinking in public, public drunkeness, no drunk driving or DUI, so alcohol while it does harm yourself as you stated (and possibly others depending on the persons actions) is in my opinion less harmful to a society's well being than marijuana.
#35575 to #35573 - feelythefeel (06/19/2013) [-]
Also, I'm done for the night. I'll reply tomorrow to any more comments. Just don't think I've abandoned you yet.
User avatar #35577 to #35575 - Major Mayhem (06/19/2013) [-]
Right on, I'm there with you.

noot noot
User avatar #35574 to #35573 - feelythefeel (06/19/2013) [-]
I'm not advocating it be a nonchalant thing. You need to be in a right setup and mindset for it. It is possible to balance marijuana and a productive lifestyle though. It has its addicts, yet what doesn't?

As for that "marijuana makes people lazy", some of the laziest people I've ever known were alcoholics. It's at least as addictive, and it drains the life out of those who can't control themselves. No matter what drugs you let be legal and decide are illegal, someone's going to ruin their lives with them. It's a fact of life.
User avatar #35576 to #35574 - Major Mayhem (06/19/2013) [-]
A very valid point, and I think our generalizations are based off of different areas. Where I'm from, there's far too many people that start to smoke weed, become lazy twats, quit their jobs, and begin to collect welfare solely to support their continuous flow of weed. Which begins the vicious cycle of weed making one lazy. As for alcohol, I know several people (including family members) whose lives have been ruined by alcohol, I'm not saying one is better than the other, it's more of a "pick your poison" type of deal.
User avatar #35674 to #35576 - feelythefeel (06/19/2013) [-]
I just don't find it worth the money and efforts of fight either poisons.
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