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#101753 - thumbfortrump
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(12/25/2015) [-]
If WW3 doesn't spark when a NATO country shoots down a Russian jet, how can it possibly ever happen?
#101759 to #101753 - marinepenguin
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(12/25/2015) [-]
By shooting down another Russian jet.
#101760 to #101759 - thumbfortrump
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Don't think that will start it either.
#101761 to #101760 - marinepenguin
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Throw in a third jet and the Chinese carrier and you've got a deal
#101763 to #101761 - thumbfortrump
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Perhaps, let's hope so. This sort of hazardous thing shouldn't be allowed to sail anyways.
#101765 to #101763 - marinepenguin
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(12/25/2015) [-]
I laugh at people who think they're a significant military force. I'm far more fearful of Russia than China.
#101766 to #101765 - thumbfortrump
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Same. The greatest threat to America is coming from within, from those who wish to disarm the people and cut military funding.
#101768 to #101766 - marinepenguin
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Yup. Usually the top dog doesn't get pushed off the pedestal by smaller dogs, it gets sick and falls off on its own.

But unfortunately no nation is meant to last forever, at least it's power is not meant to.
#101754 to #101753 - anon
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Pol was wrong.
#101751 - Sunset
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(12/25/2015) [-]
JUST
#101880 to #101751 - drastronomy
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(12/26/2015) [-]
Kek
>Bush 108
>Trump 0.0
#101744 - pebar
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(12/25/2015) [-]
#101752 to #101744 - thumbfortrump
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(12/25/2015) [-]
BTFO
T
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#101748 to #101744 - Shiny
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(12/25/2015) [-]
theintercept.com/2015/04/10/twelve-years-later-u-s-media-still-cant-get-iraqi-wmd-story-right/

The accusation was that Hussein was hiding WMDs, which was proven false. We already knew they were there.
#101743 - pebar
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Ron Swanson on Capitalism, Libertarianism It's so amazing

I don't know where to begin
So much cropping; so little time
#101746 to #101743 - Shiny
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(12/25/2015) [-]
What kind of idiot gets political opinions from a TV show?
#101747 to #101746 - pebar
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(12/25/2015) [-]
who gets opinions from a tv show

it's a comedy
they're jokes
it's funny
#101749 to #101747 - Shiny
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Not you, or the viewers. The guy who uploaded the video is pretty clearly using it as political propaganda.
#101742 - canyou
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Despite its impressive length, it's a nimble navigator, and some can be highly venomous. Just like the tarantula it's killing, the centipede has two curved hollow fangs which inject paralyzing venom. This centipede is a predator.
#101741 - anon
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(12/25/2015) [-]
#101745 to #101741 - garymotherfingoak
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(12/25/2015) [-]
that's 1 way to look at it
#101735 - anon
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(12/25/2015) [-]
North Korea and Iraq are the only countrys on earth that are not controlled by Zionist banking.

Look this up befor I get banned.
#101737 to #101735 - Zaxplab
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(12/25/2015) [-]
They are also shit countries. Jews make everything better, confirmed
#101780 to #101737 - ablueguy
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(12/25/2015) [-]
That sounds like a conspiracy to me.
#101731 - thumbfortrump
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#101728 - thereasonableperso
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(12/25/2015) [-]
"I don't vote." = "I'm too stupid to understand what they're saying."
#101736 to #101728 - anon
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(12/25/2015) [-]
>>#101732, "I don't vote." = I don't want to settle with someone i don't agree with.
"I might vote 3rd party" = HAHA nice waste of a vote!
#101750 to #101736 - theism
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(12/25/2015) [-]
That's the exact fallacy that keeps third party candidates from winning.
#101772 to #101750 - mixednuts
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Third parties don't even need to win. They could at least reach the threshold that they need to become an official party and be entitled to a federal election grants and not have to scramble for ballot access every god damn time.
#101788 to #101772 - theism
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Unfortunately our voting system encourages a two party system but if a third party candidate could get enough visibility it could at least balance out the elections.
#101807 to #101788 - anon
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(12/26/2015) [-]
No party wants that to happen because if it splits up, the other party auto-wins.
#101732 to #101728 - pebar
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(12/25/2015) [-]
I disagree
The cost of becoming informed is most definitely not worth the marginal benefit of voting
Not voting when not informed is a good thing

A much worse thing would be an uninformed person who votes
#101724 - garymotherfingoak
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(12/24/2015) [-]
libruls amirite
#101726 to #101724 - pebar
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(12/24/2015) [-]
totally
#101725 to #101724 - alimais
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(12/24/2015) [-]
U r8
#101716 - feelythefeel
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(12/24/2015) [-]
National Socialism is building a state. Liberalism is looting the state which already exists.
#101738 to #101716 - anon
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(12/25/2015) [-]
>Lebensraum
#101722 to #101716 - pebar
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(12/24/2015) [-]
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

they're economically the same thing you retard

if anything, nat socs are more left
#101782 to #101722 - mixednuts
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Economically, the National Socialists and Fascists are opportunists. What's really important to them is the social and militaristic tenants and they'll do anything to implement those and placate the relevant people in the meantime, economics mostly takes a backseat.

Initially they'll use some Anti-Capitalist rhetoric to garner the support of workers so as to win elections.

Then once in power and after destroying the Democratic order, they hold on to it by placating the aristocracy. Through strikebreaking, imprisoning labor unionists, and deciding against nationalizing industries that they had previously promised during the elections to nationalize.

Welfare is primarily cut off from the mentally ill and feeble, and aimed towards subsiding ethnically desirable families. As this Nazi propaganda poster from 1938 reads "60,000 Reichsmarks is what this person suffering from a hereditary disease costs the people's community during his lifetime. Citizen, that is your money too."

There was also the goal of re-instituting slavery, while 50% of the Slavic population was intended to be wiped out, the remaining 50% were meant to be used as slaves in the agriculture sector.

While they're both somewhat Corporatist models, there are many very large fundamental differences.
#101739 to #101722 - Shiny
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(12/25/2015) [-]
"National Socialism" is "socialism" for some cultish higher purpose, not the regular definition of socialism. "Nazis were left wing" and "Soviets were right wing" are PRATTs
#101730 to #101722 - youregaylol
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(12/25/2015) [-]
you've gotten more aggressive lately

im trying to remember if you're always like this around election time but i honestly cant recall
#101733 to #101730 - pebar
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Not really
I just think Feely has gotten a lot more cringey with his nat soc fetish
#101734 to #101733 - youregaylol
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Right now he's really the only one left whose still espousing those views, I barely ever post and lulz occasionally makes an anon post, thats it.
#101808 to #101734 - anon
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(12/26/2015) [-]
I post quite regularly, not always with a "-lulz" tag. I assume its fairly obvious when I post.
#101720 to #101716 - anon
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(12/24/2015) [-]
National Socialism is looting other states.
#101721 to #101720 - feelythefeel
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(12/24/2015) [-]
>Germany declared war on the allies
>German pre-war expansion wasn't legitimate protection of German nationals and reclamation of rightful German soil
>Germany didn't go to ridiculous lengths to avoid another world war
>the Allies weren't hunting for an excuse to destroy Germany solely to protect the interests of the international clique
>this isn't all just situational
>all Fascist states have gone to war
#101727 to #101721 - marinepenguin
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(12/24/2015) [-]
I agree that Germany was treated unfairly post-WW1 and that agreements with Germany heavily favored allied interests while Germany was given the shaft.

But to say and truly believe that Germany wasn't gearing up for a full scale offensive war after Hitler gained dictator status is just ridiculous. Plus the allies had a horrible policy of appeasement with Hitler allowing him to take Austria and the Rhineland with little more then political denouncements. They only went to war when forced to by the invasion of Poland.
#101779 to #101727 - feelythefeel
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(12/25/2015) [-]
1. ) You would prepare for war too if you were surrounded by war mongers.
2.) Hitler constantly strived for peaceful alternatives, all of which were struck down by the allies.
www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/nothanks/wwr00.html
#101785 to #101779 - marinepenguin
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Germany was not surrounded by war mongers. To say that Britain and France were hungry for a war against Germany is a severe lack of thought into the predetermined causes of Hitlers rise to power and the resulting conflict of WW2.

Germany was falsely blamed for the cause of WW1, and it caused the greatest economic depression Germany had ever experienced. These harsh policies against Germany were imposed by the allies because they feared another Great War and wanted to prevent one. France and Britain didn't respond to Hitlers calls to disarmament because that simply wasn't an option then as much as it is an option now. If they were such war mongers why wouldn't they have invaded when Hitler broke the treaty of Versailles when he began the build up of his forces in 1935? Instead they allowed his military buildup in hope that war wouldn't occur, they allowed his taking back of the Rhineland because they hoped war wouldn't occur, and they allowed his annexation of the Austrian nation because they had HOPED that war wouldn't occur. This also fed into the Allied idea of complete surrender, many German Generals individually sought peace with the allies as early as Stalingrad, but they would only accept unconditional surrender from the Fuhrer himself.

I think WW2 was entirely unavoidable after the way Germany was treated after WW1, ironically the allied treaties against Germany created the very environment necessary to start another conflict. Whether it would have been Hitler or another individual, it was going to happen regardless.
#101786 to #101785 - feelythefeel
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(12/25/2015) [-]
They were waiting for a more reliable excuse. Poland was the only nation invaded pre-war that the allies had a binding defensive pact with.
#101787 to #101786 - marinepenguin
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Wait, so you truly believe that the Allies were war mongers because Germany invaded a nation they had a defensive pact with, and that they honored that pact?

Now I'm not one to subscribe to the common modern ideal of "Nazi Germany was the epitome of evil and Hitler was the anti-Christ", but to truly honestly claim that Hitler didn't have intentions of setting up a greater Germany that exceeded traditional German lands is silliness.

He was fascinated by the idea of the American "manifest destiny" and wanted to create an entire German culture in the captured Slavic lands. His policies were absolutely aggressive in nature and an offensive war was his goal from the very beginning.
#101791 to #101787 - feelythefeel
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Germany sought comprehensive, mutually beneficial peace plans for years before the war, and rarely ever recieved a real response. This, combined with the Polish purging of German nationals, forced Hitler's hand. He knew he wasn't going to accomplish anything waiting at the negotiating table for children.
#101795 to #101791 - marinepenguin
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Once again, I agree that the allies were not entirely innocent in the manner they treated Germany, they didn't listen to anything Germany would propose as it was too soon after the first world war for the allied powers for them to consider any such proposals. But regardless if any of these " peace agreements" were taken seriously and implemented, I'm highly doubtful that Germany would not have continued to push for consolidation of German peoples, annexing Austria, the Rhineland, the Sudetenland, and even Czechoslovakia, and then ultimately invading Poland under the same causes as in our History. As I said, war was inevitable, and I blame the cause of it just as much on the Allies reaction after the first world war as I do Hitler in the 1930s.
#101797 to #101795 - feelythefeel
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(12/25/2015) [-]
But it was heavily implied that Germany's unjustified occupations were temporary and that said land would be returned when the political climate cooled down.
#101802 to #101797 - marinepenguin
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Debatable. I think in the best case scenario he would have placed nonGermans into their own self-governing territories and annexed the traditionally German lands. He was pretty adamant about returning Germany back to its previous glory in terms of land.
#101811 to #101802 - feelythefeel
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(12/26/2015) [-]
>unjustified
#101794 to #101789 - feelythefeel
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Lebensraum wasn't actively pursued until after the war had already started.
#101796 to #101794 - marinepenguin
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Obviously it wasn't. There would need to be a war with the Soviet union, which was a plan in the making from the beginning, even before the polish invasion.
#101798 to #101796 - feelythefeel
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(12/25/2015) [-]
I believe the war with the USSR was more from an ideological standpoint. Communism had nearly destroyed Germany more than onc, and continued to be a threat.
#101799 to #101798 - marinepenguin
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Oh absolutely. The communist party was a rival of the German workers party, and Hitler hated communists. That's why I say it was inevitable.
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#101714 - anon
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#101718 to #101714 - feelythefeel
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(12/24/2015) [-]
Oy vey, keep dem ebil nazees away! I'm a fictitious superhero, so I obviously know what I'm talking about!


Anybody have that comic where Red Skull is convincing Captain America that the Germans should have won?
#101715 to #101714 - anon
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(12/24/2015) [-]
No true scotsman
#101711 - alimais
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(12/24/2015) [-]
Jap journalist got kidnapped by one of the Opposition/Rebel groups in Syria

>Japan seeking information after reports Japanese journalist held hostage in Syria
www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-japan-hostage-idUSKBN0U704J20151224

>Japanese journalist 'captive and threatened in Syria'
www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35173910
#101709 - thumbfortrump
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(12/24/2015) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_4-BqSIUD8

1:22 "Qualifications isn't really the only thing you should consider when hiring someone"

This country is fucked.
#101723 to #101709 - Zaxplab
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(12/24/2015) [-]
It's a liberal arts school, dude. What did you expect?
#101729 to #101723 - thumbfortrump
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(12/25/2015) [-]
Don't know, I just love to hate.
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#101707 - alimais
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(12/24/2015) [-]
War is progressing good so far in Syria and Iraq , one village or town after another is liberated
#101706 - figatron
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#101710 to #101706 - lotengo
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(12/24/2015) [-]
Jeb Bush "That's what she said"
#101688 - canyou
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(12/24/2015) [-]
I MEAN IT'S 2015
#101690 to #101688 - feelythefeel
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(12/24/2015) [-]
1 to ten how suicidal is he going to be on New Year's?
#101691 to #101690 - canyou
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(12/24/2015) [-]
15/20
#101686 - feelythefeel
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(12/24/2015) [-]
"In breaking news, Krokatoa erupted again. Needless to say, Indonesians everywhere are flocking to Germany to escape volcanoe persecution."