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#47223 to #47222 - byposted (09/10/2013) [-]
Brazilian monkeys can't do anything about it. It's not a surprise that there is spying; every major country has espionage efforts. It does not necessarily mean Brazil is seen as an enemy by the government.
User avatar #47224 to #47223 - pebar (09/10/2013) [-]
industrial espionage =/= normal espionage
User avatar #47225 to #47224 - byposted (09/10/2013) [-]
They're one in the same. Oil is a key interest of the US, obviously. They would want to know the status of Brazilian oil. I doubt said industrial espionage was anything major.
#47220 - byposted (09/10/2013) [-]
After celebrating the defeat of the labor welfare bums in Australia, we now have the election in Norway! Don't get too excited, though, for the pseudo-Conservative party led by an empowered womyn won. Still better than commies. Plus, they will have to make concessions to the only true party of Breivik if they want a majority government.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24014551
User avatar #47217 to #47204 - nigalthornberry (09/10/2013) [-]
Im not really sure if he's totally at fault here
His wife seems sleezy to me lying in court and the divorce because he didnt defend her when she was caught lying.She also looks a little unreliable to me
but then again we've seen zim zam on the news alot for speeding and doing tours of gun shops
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User avatar #47192 - eight (09/09/2013) [-]
So does anyone here actually think Assad has and has used chemical weapons?

Who thinks it is just another "Weapons of mass destruction" propaganda, scare tactic to start another war for whatever new reason the American government has?

And lets say Assad does in fact have these chemical weapons and used them (despite there being no actual evidence to prove this). So what? Why isn't Syria allowed to have dangerous weapons like anyone else?
User avatar #47230 to #47192 - akkere (09/10/2013) [-]
It's painfully unlikely that any well-established military presence will have a lacking supply of chemical weapons or the means to produce weapons of such a kind. It's a pretty damn efficient kind of weapon that's red taped to shit so often because I believe it's restricted under the Geneva Convention or some other global treaty that's against things such as cruel and unusual weaponry or treatment of POWs.
Of course, as previously mentioned, any military that wants to be absolutely efficient will have chemical weapons, in case of a worst-case scenario where it's needed and they have to sit there and go "Moralize deez nuts".
I'm not quite sure if there's ever been a hard-proven report of the actual usage of chemical weapons on our end (but we be dronin' err'day like it's RC racing), so that might be one reason why we've never really been called out on that part.

I wouldn't doubt Syria used chemical weapons because they're in a rather difficult position, something that's pretty damn close to a worst-case scenario in terms of the likelihood of achieving victory in the war, and quite frankly after what happened with Gadaffi and the... stick, I'd gas the shit out of my enemy too.
I also wouldn't doubt the militants wouldn't use chemical weapons if they were to acquire it on their own end, especially if they were to raid a munitions depot that yielded the stuff, but I have no idea how a military truly handles stocking that kind of stuff outside of a basic estimate that's it in some god-forsaken underground bunker where you need 15 different key cards and a dick scanner to get in
User avatar #47212 to #47192 - Ruspanic (09/09/2013) [-]
Syria does have chemical weapons. That's not really in question. The Syrian government said it has chemical weapons.

The question is whether Assad's regime was responsible for that chemical weapon attack that killed over 1000 people near Damascus, or whether one of the rebel groups did it.
User avatar #47195 to #47192 - maddboiy (09/09/2013) [-]
i feel like it's "We need to liberate the people and topple the dictator and freedom and liberty n stuff" when the Rebels are just as bad if not worse. There's evidence (supposedly) evidence that it was the rebels who used gas, seeing as though they have chemical weapons and have shot at UN weapon inspectors with snipers i'd say they're guilty of using gas where as Assad has been made an offer by the Russians to hand over his chemical weapons in return for not getting bombed by the US and it seems like he wants to co operate.
User avatar #47216 to #47195 - byposted (09/10/2013) [-]
Also, it's highly doubtful that Syria will give up its chemical weapons. The "deal" between Russia and Syria is all for show to make Obongo look like even more of a moron. It's working so far, may I add.
#47215 to #47195 - byposted (09/09/2013) [-]
www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/09/us-iraq-violence-claim-idUSBRE98807Q20130909

(Reuters) - An al Qaeda affiliate has claimed responsibility for a series of car bombs that killed around 60 people in predominantly Shi'ite districts of the Iraqi capital last week.

The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, which was formed earlier this year through a merger between al Qaeda's Syrian and Iraqi branches, said it had carried out the attacks in response to the Shi'ite-led government's tightening security measures.

Some 800 Iraqis were killed in acts of violence in August, according to the United Nations.
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>muh democracy
These are the "rebels" that will be slaughtering Shia Muslims and Christians in Syria if Assad crumbles. It is literally the same organization that is killing in Syria and Iraq.
User avatar #47201 to #47195 - eight (09/09/2013) [-]
The funny thing is America uses chemical weapons, drones and other weapons that cause havoc and they use them recklessly often causing the death of innocent people.

Why is it that America isn't giving their weapons up? If anybody is a source for terror or destruction it is the U.S Government.

I guess it isn't terrorism when you are the most powerful and able to pull all the strings

User avatar #47213 to #47201 - byposted (09/09/2013) [-]
You're right but you're missing the point. This warmongering has absolutely nothing to do with humanitarianism. The US established its goal when it began supporting the terrorists early in the conflict along with their buddies Israel and Saudi Arabia, Qatar. It is to overthrow Assad.
#47193 to #47192 - valeriya (09/09/2013) [-]
If you don't get a response it's because Syria has been done to death.
User avatar #47194 to #47193 - eight (09/09/2013) [-]
Afraid I missed that. Didn't want to get into Syria these past week or two because I didn't feel like being called a an idiot for arguing against the claim that Assad has Chemical weapons.
#47196 to #47194 - valeriya (09/09/2013) [-]
It's really one of the lesser of 2 evils and one... Technically neutral, kurds have pretty much secured their lands and aren't going on offensives against either Syrian government or the Rebels, but theirs ethnic tension brewing between arabs and kurds, Granted Assad is being "heavy handed" but so are the rebels, when you take up arms don't expect mercy, both syrian government and assad have the capability to use chemical weapons, there's no conclusive evidence that either party have used said chemical weapons, there's currently western invention looming and the US wanting Assad to surrender his stockpile it'll potentially pave the way to Rebels deploying chemical weapons so rock hard place lava below.
User avatar #47197 to #47196 - eight (09/09/2013) [-]
What does our government stand to gain from spreading these lies and getting into another war?
#47199 to #47197 - valeriya (09/09/2013) [-]
Well American economy suffers from a large case of bloated to fuck MI complex, so without war the American economy is fucked, it also benefits to regional stability... For about a month, then everything will go Libya where there is still factional fighting and militias, then depending on how much said fighting over spills you may end up with Afghanistan 2, considering you're pulling out of Afghanistan 1 with Aq still active, it won't take long to reestablish itself.
User avatar #47202 to #47199 - eight (09/09/2013) [-]
That is what I figured. Like Roosevelt and the Great Depression. War is the best way to curb collapse. Honestly, I prefer America's economy to collapse so it can rebuild the financial system. Do away with the fiat currency and private central banking, start fresh with a new system more closely related to what the founding fathers had in mind.

I wonder if they will confiscate our Gold and Silver or leech into our bank accounts before all this is over?
#47203 to #47202 - valeriya (09/09/2013) [-]
The thing is war has changed a lot and so has manufacturing, it no longer takes a massive amount of economic mobilization to support a war, courtesy of a lot of industry being a lot more automated and no longer requires a massive labour investment like it did before, the thing is with that is it doesn't actually solve anything since you leave the economic ruling class in power and the economic ruling class is the political ruling class no matter which way you look at it, it's like treating the symptoms of a disease without actually seeking a cure. See image.
User avatar #47205 to #47203 - pebar (09/09/2013) [-]
Do you think it's possible to create a government that's safeguarded against corruption by the boorshwazy?
Also, it's more often that the people are brainwashed by political advertisements, not politicians themselves that are corrupted (at least not significantly).
#47208 to #47205 - valeriya (09/09/2013) [-]
So if you value economic freedom it's out the window.
User avatar #47210 to #47208 - pebar (09/09/2013) [-]
I favor individual freedom. As far as the economy goes, I'm more of a utilitarian; that just happens to be free market based with some minor government involvement.
#47206 to #47205 - valeriya (09/09/2013) [-]
Hmm, you'd need to control and reign in the bourgeois and that's incredibly hard without shifting economic power from private individual to state then it becomes an issue of keeping the government in check, so you can either have the government regularly purging itself or put yourself in the loop just solely against the state, then again any revolution presents a chance for opportunists to seize power., also take a look at who's funding those political advertisements, in the case of America it's mostly corporate bodies and banks, corruption is essentially legal in America...
User avatar #47209 to #47206 - pebar (09/09/2013) [-]
The boorshwazy being a problem is basically the result of greed, right? With so many of them, collusion would be very difficult. This competition mostly keeps them in check. By transferring the factors of production to the state, you essentially centralizing everything and removing that competition. The inherent greed that corrupted the boorshwazy will inevitably corrupt the politicians, only this time the rate would be accelerated. So how is that any better?
#47257 to #47209 - valeriya (09/10/2013) [-]
They're greedy, not stupid. If you know the purpose of business then you'd find that bourgeois all have the same aim at the end of the day, also it's incredibly easy for them to collude "Alright we all want to make profits right?" "Yes" "Alright let's all have very similar prices" "Sounds good" The end, now have the state apparatus acting in their favor, suddenly a business is a legal person and their is absolutely no individual accountability. Answered already "so you can either have the government regularly purging itself or put yourself in the loop just solely against the state, then again any revolution presents a chance for opportunists to seize power" Greed isn't the sole factor in corruption, my answer to this is quite simply socialism.
User avatar #47258 to #47257 - pebar (09/10/2013) [-]
63 econ oligopoly and game theory Regarding cartels, it's actually not The End. Especially with anti-trust laws, agreements are not legally binding so each business will simply try to maximize their own profits.
#47308 to #47258 - valeriya (09/11/2013) [-]
This is running on the assumption that they're all going to try undercut each other and that the state is going to actively try to bait them into breaking the cartel, plus you've got to bear in mind that they're not stupid they know breaking their agreement causes more potential competition.

Sorry about yesterday I was a bit flustered emotionally for want of a better explanation.
#47260 to #47258 - valeriya (09/10/2013) [-]
I am here, just no here, that made no sense..
#47259 to #47258 - valeriya (09/10/2013) [-]
I'll reply later, sorry I'm just not here right now.
User avatar #47236 to #47209 - akkere (09/10/2013) [-]
The boozeswas- .. Borschewussy-

The more extreme capitalists would take advantage of the lack of regulation and be able to eliminate competition through a series of well-strategized business techniques and even cut throat tactics.
It's more likely than not best to have a balance of economic power between the private individual and the public government, than allowing one to have total or near-total control.
Government can help stimulate the economy and actually ensure competition through a number of methods including subsidization, which would allow for someone who doesn't have a sufficient amount of capital but the knowledge of where to go to start their own business in a direction that's needed for the public.
There's a line of checks and balances that need to be initiated and carefully watched over to ensure the balance is maintained and actually kept in precision, but it would be the best approach it seems.
User avatar #47198 to #47197 - eight (09/09/2013) [-]
Sorry I said our, I meant the American government.
#47200 to #47198 - valeriya (09/09/2013) [-]
I assumed as much, since the only other country active and willing to intervene is France and it's unlikely you're french.
User avatar #47211 to #47200 - byposted (09/09/2013) [-]
The US has gained support from such countries as Estonia, Croatia, and Albania in the past week.
#47190 - valeriya (09/09/2013) [-]
Alright, so today I actually got asked for ID (Took it as a complement, so aparantly I look 8 years younger then I am... Nice.) anywho, age restrictions on goods and services on a general level, if you want to specify then go ahead, purchasing drugs yes (over the counter), cigarettes alcohol yes, pretty much yes.
User avatar #47191 to #47190 - jewishcommunazi (09/09/2013) [-]
I'm ok with age restrictions, which is usually set on 18, but sometimes, people want things more just because they're not allowed to have them.
User avatar #47188 - pebar (09/09/2013) [-]

Assad is willing to turn over Syria's chemical weapons stock pile to international authorities if it will avert an attack by the US
User avatar #47218 to #47188 - nigalthornberry (09/10/2013) [-]
Seems fair unless they make more C-weapons
#47187 - pebar (09/09/2013) [-]
from gallup
User avatar #47219 to #47187 - Ruspanic (09/10/2013) [-]
Maybe I'm interpreting the data wrong, but it's kind of disgusting that party membership impacts people's support of the intervention so much more than ideological principle (liberal vs conservative). It's an issue that affects millions of people, an entire region's stability, and potentially even our national security (if the wrong people come out in control of Syria), and here we have people's decisions depending on whether they're in the same party as the President who's pushing for intervention.

Especially Democrats - holy shit.
User avatar #47185 - benfordham (09/09/2013) [-]
User avatar #47183 - CapnInterwebz (09/09/2013) [-]
"They can slaughter each other all they want -- until they start slaughtering each other with this type of bomb. Then it's our turn to slaughter them, with even worse bombs."

~President Obama
User avatar #47189 to #47184 - jewishcommunazi (09/09/2013) [-]
That's actually a picture of Denzel Washington Carver.
User avatar #47179 - jewishcommunazi (09/09/2013) [-]
Who do you fascists dislike the most, is it the jews or the islamists?
User avatar #47221 to #47179 - byposted (09/10/2013) [-]
Jews
User avatar #47172 - pebar (09/09/2013) [-]
German spies intercepted telephone calls between Assad and his commanders that show Assad repeatedly refused to authorize chemical weapons.
www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/08/us-syria-crisis-germany-idUSBRE98707B20130908
User avatar #47173 to #47172 - jadewest (09/09/2013) [-]
inb4 obama still wants to do stuff to syria
User avatar #47168 - undeadwill (09/09/2013) [-]
Storm Cloak or Imperial?
Which faction of Fallout New Vegas? NCR, Mr. House, Caesar legion, or Yes man?
User avatar #47229 to #47168 - teoberry (09/10/2013) [-]
Leejun.
User avatar #47233 to #47231 - teoberry (09/10/2013) [-]
Missions were wayyyyyy more fun.
User avatar #47237 to #47233 - undeadwill (09/10/2013) [-]
explain?
User avatar #47240 to #47237 - teoberry (09/10/2013) [-]
Legion's missions were all about fucking shit up. Killing the prez, blowing the monorail, fucking with the BoS, all that. The other one's just didn't have the level of excitement as the Legion's did.
User avatar #47241 to #47240 - undeadwill (09/10/2013) [-]
I chose yes man
User avatar #47242 to #47241 - teoberry (09/10/2013) [-]
I've only done Yes Man and Legion so far. The most fun is the DLC tho. Lonesome road was amazing
User avatar #47265 to #47242 - undeadwill (09/10/2013) [-]
What was it about again?
User avatar #47276 to #47265 - teoberry (09/11/2013) [-]
The guy who passed up the job to take the platnium chip.
User avatar #47279 to #47277 - teoberry (09/11/2013) [-]
Been a while since I played it. He wants to tell you why if you do something for him. it's pretty fucking sick
User avatar #47281 to #47279 - undeadwill (09/11/2013) [-]
Sweet
User avatar #47244 to #47242 - undeadwill (09/10/2013) [-]
I got honest hearts.

.45
User avatar #47248 to #47244 - teoberry (09/10/2013) [-]
That one's worth it for the loot at the end. Dead Money is pretty good, if you play it right you get enough money for just about anything in the old, old world blues is funny but hard as fuck.
User avatar #47174 to #47168 - DasSpiel (09/09/2013) [-]
Storm Cloaks
Mr. House
User avatar #47176 to #47175 - DasSpiel (09/09/2013) [-]
Storm Cloaks: The citizens of Skyrim have the right to govern themselves

Mr. House: He has humanity's best interests in mind.
User avatar #47177 to #47176 - undeadwill (09/09/2013) [-]
Good point

How so?
User avatar #47169 to #47168 - jadewest (09/09/2013) [-]
Storm Cloak
eh I'm not to familiar with the factions in new vegas
User avatar #47170 to #47169 - undeadwill (09/09/2013) [-]
Why?

Look them up.
User avatar #47171 to #47170 - jadewest (09/09/2013) [-]
Even tho they are racist, getting rid of the High Elven Supremacy is a good thing, and breaking off from the empire may be a good thing as well

mk I will
User avatar #47232 to #47171 - undeadwill (09/10/2013) [-]
But Ulfirc is a mad man who slaughters his "foes" with unreasonable levels of brutality and does so without mercy.
User avatar #47234 to #47232 - jadewest (09/10/2013) [-]
aye he is
I'd argue that neither side is really good
User avatar #47238 to #47234 - undeadwill (09/10/2013) [-]
I think storm cocks are better
User avatar #47239 to #47238 - jadewest (09/10/2013) [-]
probably
problem is Ulfric and all the Fuck every other race thing they have going on
User avatar #47243 to #47239 - undeadwill (09/10/2013) [-]
But he is just a man and men die but their actions live on.
User avatar #47245 to #47243 - jadewest (09/10/2013) [-]
aye but a terrible leader can have a nasty influence
User avatar #47246 to #47245 - undeadwill (09/10/2013) [-]
So long as he lives.
User avatar #47247 to #47246 - jadewest (09/10/2013) [-]
true true
User avatar #47165 - roliga (09/09/2013) [-]
Colion Noir for NRA News: "Dishonest Solutions"

Anyone else here just absolutely fucking love Colion Noire?
User avatar #47157 - psychadelicsnake (09/08/2013) [-]
I think the Funnyjunk community should know more about the situation in Syria.
*Pyschadelicsnake uses his copypaste*

UN has evidence to suggest the rebels used chemical weapons.
www.examiner.com/article/u-s-backed-syrian-rebels-reportedly-massacre-christian-village www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2255103/Syria-rebels-beheaded-Christian-fed-dogs-fears-grow-Islamist-atrocities.html
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs86RJR3ZUk
(FSA gas a rabbit and threaten to use gas in an attack)
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(FSA shoot dead two 15 year old boys by firing squad)
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(FSA beheads a Christian Bishop)
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(FSA eats soldiers heart).
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIiJ6udOtiM&bpctr=1378006120
(Youtube link of the Christian Bishop beheading)
www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/11/us-syria-crisis-commander-idUSBRE96A10620130711
(Al Nusra killing Kurds)
www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/10/syria-al-nusra-front-jihadi
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib6nV44Ja0M
(FSA admitting to having chemical weapons and threatening to use them) www.nytimes.com/2013/07/13/world/middleeast/syrian-rebel-infighting-undermines-anti-assad-effort.html?pagewanted=all www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/christians-other-minorities-in-syria-fear-ethnic-cleansing-1.236246 You need to login to view this link www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57600624/syria-chemical-weapons-attack-blamed-on-assad-but-wheres-the-evidence/
(Turkey finds sarin gas in homes of suspected Syrian Islamists) www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/6/syrian-rebels-used-sarin-nerve-gas-not-assads-regi/
User avatar #47181 to #47157 - jewishcommunazi (09/09/2013) [-]
I don't think anyone here is actually on the side of Obama and the theocrats though.
#47160 to #47157 - pebar (09/08/2013) [-]
But our glorious leader has said it was Assad who used the chemical weapons.

You should also point out that the US has failed to gain approval from the UN national security council, something that is necessary to launch an unprovoked attack like this. They failed to prove that it was Assad who used the weapons and not the rebels.
#47159 to #47157 - byposted (09/08/2013) [-]
The Israeli-supported terrorists just took a Christian village and are ransacking Churches and raping Christians who remain, in the meanwhile.

www.foxnews.com/world/2013/09/08/syrian-activists-say-al-qaida-linked-rebels-gain-control-christian-village/

The glorious forces of Assad are fighting to repel the jihad wizards as we speak:
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All those who speak of Assad in vain await the Rope.
User avatar #47156 - tredbear (09/08/2013) [-]
Russian Federation still uses soviet anthem, and the Red stars on their tanks, and the USSR uniforms, and still follows strict laws. Russia is still communist, don't ya think?
#47178 to #47156 - valeriya (09/09/2013) [-]
If you were watching a victory day parade then we still use uniforms and equipment of the time because we still keep them since it was the soviet union after all that smashed the fascists.
User avatar #47161 to #47156 - Ruspanic (09/09/2013) [-]
No, it's not still Communist. Communism isn't about wearing uniforms and liking the color red, you know. It's an actual ideology/political-economic system. Putin's government is rather authoritarian, but it's not Communist.
User avatar #47158 to #47156 - byposted (09/08/2013) [-]
They do not use any "soviet anthem." The hymn on which the Russian anthem is based is from Tsarist times.
User avatar #47155 - twitwitwi (09/08/2013) [-]
User avatar #47153 - fwi (09/08/2013) [-]
lets get down to twilotics
User avatar #47142 - pebar (09/08/2013) [-]
www.chron.com/news/politics/article/US-Common-sense-test-holds-Assad-responsible-4796462.php
it's not common sense if 95% of the population disagrees

why is it that whenever I hear a politician say common sense I automatically assume they're wrong...
User avatar #47152 to #47142 - Shiny (09/08/2013) [-]
Common sense is just a euphemism for "my opinions are objective".
#47136 - pebar (09/08/2013) [-]
The United States was founded on the philosophy of "fuck the police" and that gangs would keep us safe.
User avatar #47137 to #47136 - undeadwill (09/08/2013) [-]
Basically
#47134 - byposted (09/08/2013) [-]
le dreamer face. These creatures have the audacity to talk about "White invaders" when they're the ones coming here and taking a shit on our country. The Rope awaits them.


User avatar #47151 to #47134 - Shiny (09/08/2013) [-]
Do you actually believe the bitter vitriol you spew or is it just some kind of bizarre emotional exercise
User avatar #47147 to #47134 - byposted (09/08/2013) [-]
Did my link disappear again or is it just me?
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