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User avatar #49747 - kokanum ONLINE (10/25/2013) [-]
Abortion
User avatar #49755 to #49747 - bypest (10/25/2013) [-]
"The thing to be done about the Jews is to kill them, exterminate them, get rid of them. You don't argue or reason with a cockroach; you step on it." - Ben Garrison
User avatar #49816 to #49755 - lulzforhiroshima (10/26/2013) [-]
thanks bypest.
User avatar #49757 to #49755 - bypest (10/25/2013) [-]
"The thing to be done about the fetus is to kill it, exterminate it, get rid of it. You don't argue or reason with parasites; you cleanse them." - Empowered Womyn
User avatar #49750 to #49747 - pebar (10/25/2013) [-]
what about it
#49744 - feelythefeel (10/24/2013) [-]
Guys, what if Mein Kampf was actually Hitler's really sassy prison diary, and the Nazis secretly edited it afterwards to use as propaganda and avoid a scandal?
User avatar #49769 to #49744 - oxan (10/25/2013) [-]
'and the Nazis secretly edited it afterwards'

They did. But mainly because it was incoherent, because Hitler was a bit self-conscious and liked to use big words.
User avatar #49783 to #49769 - maddboiy (10/25/2013) [-]
even the edited version is incomprehensible, half of it doesn't make sense
User avatar #49817 to #49783 - arisaka (10/26/2013) [-]
It's really just comedic literature. Hitler was, deep down, a stupid fuck with a decent vocabulary so he made his insanity sound smart. (fascists of this board plz take this with a grain or teaspoon of salt)
User avatar #49719 - pebar (10/24/2013) [-]
John Stossel - Fracking Thoughts on fracking?
User avatar #49785 to #49719 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/25/2013) [-]
For it, it will solve our energy crisis
User avatar #49724 to #49719 - Shiny (10/24/2013) [-]
Will probably be fine from a scientific standpoint, but oil companies get so much political leeway that they even get away with incidents we absolutely cannot reasonably expect.
User avatar #49699 - lulzforhiroshima (10/24/2013) [-]
I've been starting to lean more and more to the right (which i already am) each day.
User avatar #49758 to #49699 - bypest (10/25/2013) [-]
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You will soon realize the need for an empowerment of the people on the basis of common culture, nationality, and borders, to save the West from modern-leftist decadence.

Oxan, feely, and you will all be militant fascists of some variety in the future.
User avatar #49813 to #49758 - lulzforhiroshima (10/26/2013) [-]
i dont think so...

Also im the jew here so im pretty sure that woudnt work in my favor...
User avatar #49770 to #49758 - oxan (10/25/2013) [-]
See you then, byposted.
User avatar #49756 to #49699 - teoberry (10/25/2013) [-]
Still a fag tho
User avatar #49746 to #49699 - Shiny (10/25/2013) [-]
The only difference between left and right wing is whether you're oversensitive or have a persecution complex
User avatar #49711 to #49699 - kanadetenshi (10/24/2013) [-]
Both the left and right are pathetic, constantly attempting to claim how much they care about freedom but instead try to enforce their totalitarian values onto others in favor of their own cultural bias.
User avatar #49815 to #49711 - lulzforhiroshima (10/26/2013) [-]
if you say so, its really not about that for me at all. I dont represent any party nor do i like any to an extent.
User avatar #49700 to #49699 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/24/2013) [-]
good
User avatar #49698 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/24/2013) [-]
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Okay I don't know how to respond to this.
User avatar #49771 to #49698 - oxan (10/25/2013) [-]
>Chicana

I've come across this in a communist group. I still have no idea what the fuck it is, but I think it's Mexican. Anyway.

It was a cuntish thing for the bloke to do. But the point isn't that the act was sexism per se but facilitated by sexism.

Still, if the guy had stepped on her heel accidentally, the rational thing to do would be saying 'excuse me' and asking him to move politely - that's the civil thing to do.

Nevertheless, pouring an entire beer onto someone because they told you to shut up is an arsehole act.

Final verdict: the question is whether or not he acted the way he did for sexist/misogynistic reasons, or because he's just an all-round cunt. She might not be 100% right, but she's not necessarily wrong.

'Cause if I was stepping on someone and they pushed my foot back with the one I was currently stepping on, I wouldn’t do something like pour a whole $12 beer on them. That’s not something a decent human being does to another. He should have apologized. He was an asshole, he overreacted'.

This is undoubtedly correct and accurate.

'... he overreacted out of his feeling of the entitlement that comes with being a man in this patriarchal society'.

This is a legitimate theory, but requires move proof. Again, it's not wrong per se.
User avatar #49773 to #49771 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/25/2013) [-]
She also kicked him.
User avatar #49775 to #49773 - oxan (10/25/2013) [-]
>Still, if the guy had stepped on her heel accidentally, the rational thing to do would be saying 'excuse me' and asking him to move politely - that's the civil thing to do.

She's a bit of a 'I'm a womyn hear me roar' type, and kicking was unnecessary. But doesn't mean her assessment is necessarily wrong, at least in principle.
User avatar #49707 to #49698 - jewishcommunazi (10/24/2013) [-]
Bro, do you even check your privilege?
User avatar #49708 to #49707 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/24/2013) [-]
What do you think of this?
User avatar #49710 to #49708 - jewishcommunazi (10/24/2013) [-]
Also, you did fine.
User avatar #49709 to #49708 - jewishcommunazi (10/24/2013) [-]
I'm almost convinced she (or he) is merely engaging into an act. Either way, her (or his) comments are very cringy.
User avatar #49727 to #49709 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/24/2013) [-]
Engaging into an act?
User avatar #49728 to #49727 - jewishcommunazi (10/24/2013) [-]
Trolling.
User avatar #49729 to #49728 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/24/2013) [-]
She seems so fucking serious.
#49688 - jadewest (10/24/2013) [-]
undeadwill are you proud of me yet
User avatar #49772 to #49688 - oxan (10/25/2013) [-]
-10 Left masterrace.
#49731 to #49688 - jewishcommunazi (10/24/2013) [-]
Here's mine.

Just like I expected, I'm slightly more to the left and slightly less libertarian.
User avatar #49787 to #49731 - pebar (10/25/2013) [-]
It's impossible to be left wing and libertarian because people don't like sharing. You need government or some sort of governing authority (like the dictatorship of the proles) to take people's stuff away or to force them to work without compensation.
User avatar #49789 to #49787 - jewishcommunazi (10/25/2013) [-]
Would you rather do nothing all day and leave nothing to society and consequently being regarded as a parasite by it or do something you like while being respected by society?
User avatar #49790 to #49789 - pebar (10/25/2013) [-]
Welfare used to be considered shameful so people actually used it to get out of poverty, not as their source of income. This is not the case today.
Relying on people's good will is not a sustainable economic policy.
User avatar #49791 to #49790 - jewishcommunazi (10/25/2013) [-]
If people on welfare manage to get a job, they risk losing it later by being fired and not receive welfare again aferwards (I think).
User avatar #49686 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/24/2013) [-]
Seems to me cultural marxism is the only excuse that people have to critize capitalism when an understanding of economics fail.
User avatar #49774 to #49686 - oxan (10/25/2013) [-]
Cultural Marxism isn't.

But yeah, it's a shitty school that has no connection to Marxism, except perhaps its methodology. But if they come to the conclusion that culture is the primary cause of oppression and not economics, they're doing something wrong.

And it's not so much capitalism it criticises, but gender and race relations.
User avatar #49805 to #49774 - bypest (10/26/2013) [-]
I think it was the purpose of such poisonous thought to destroy capitalist societies. It has been working, no?
User avatar #51629 to #49805 - oxan (11/16/2013) [-]
Pfft. More like breeding ultraleftists who care more about feelings than they do revolutionary violence.
User avatar #49748 to #49686 - arisaka (10/25/2013) [-]
tfw you don't even know what cultural marxism is
User avatar #49705 to #49686 - jewishcommunazi (10/24/2013) [-]
Seems to me cultural "marxism" is mostly supported by centrist capitalists, it doesn't make much sense attacking a system while attempt to improve it so it can be compatible with "progression".
User avatar #49730 to #49705 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/24/2013) [-]
Nope many attack capitalism from a cultural stand point because they are ignorant of economics.
User avatar #49684 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/24/2013) [-]
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And then there is this asshole. jpg
User avatar #49776 to #49684 - oxan (10/25/2013) [-]
Five, eight, and eleven.

Five is stupid. 'You want to own your own business'. But this person is an anti-capitalist? Lol, liberal.

Eight. Dress codes aren't necessarily sexist. Businesses can recommend or want women to wear skirts and a blouse (just a typical example), but so long as they allow them to wear a shirt and pants, that's fine. Dress codes are a fact of life, even in socialist enterprises. Reducing them as inherently sexist is a gross oversimplification and a baseless assertion.

Eleven. If you're going to be fucking coworkers anyway (which most companies have policies against), why not fuck your boss if you can?

Other than that, I don't really see any problems. Some things I might disagree with, but nothing major.

Keep me updated on this, though.
User avatar #49701 to #49684 - pebar (10/24/2013) [-]
none of these have anything to do with capitalism.....
User avatar #49702 to #49701 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/24/2013) [-]
One does.
User avatar #49703 to #49702 - pebar (10/24/2013) [-]
Also, you need to rebut people not just insult them. You can't just say capitalism is great and everything is government's fault, you have to explain why.
User avatar #49706 to #49703 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/24/2013) [-]
I have far too many commies to educate to deal with this level of stupid does not deserve a rebuttal unless I get a reply.
User avatar #49687 to #49684 - feelythefeel (10/24/2013) [-]
At first I didn't see the problem, then it got only slightly disagreeable. It really started to fall apart at eight. By the end I saw what you meant.
User avatar #49689 to #49687 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/24/2013) [-]
This ladies and gentlemen is what I do for capitalism. That is the shit I have to deal with.
#49690 to #49689 - feelythefeel (10/24/2013) [-]
MFW not being a capitalist yet also not being a dick about it.
User avatar #49691 to #49690 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/24/2013) [-]
ikr
#49683 - feelythefeel (10/24/2013) [-]
Wisdom of the wheneverIfeellikeit: To my nation and race, I am next to indifferent. For my species, however, I am an unyielding patriot.
User avatar #49685 to #49683 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/24/2013) [-]
I got a whole folder of humanity fuck yeah.
User avatar #49627 - pebar (10/23/2013) [-]
There's an opinion in my college newspaper regarding bias in the news. It goes on talking about how FOX is republican leaning and tries to get people to come over to its side. Then it goes on to say the New York Times is an unbiased news source....
I'm so annoyed right now I might even write a letter to the editor and complain.
User avatar #49777 to #49627 - oxan (10/25/2013) [-]
All news sources are biased.

Liberals shit me to tears.
User avatar #49674 to #49627 - akkere (10/24/2013) [-]
The biggest problem with this article is it implies that there's outlets that will somehow hold journalists to a heavy principle of centrality, free of all bias, partisan or otherwise.

The reason why I push for something like You need to login to view this link so much is because they hold an idea that is more realistic: News sources are generally going to be bias and the best thing to do is simply present all of the biases in one place. However, AllSides' fault is they try to point some sites as being central or factored to being close to central (e.g. CNN and WSJ, which some will claim CNN to lean to Left and WSJ to lean to right), and that's kind of ruined by the fact that there's always going to be individuals that deviate from any general agreement of centrality, or that the points of centrality are purely arbitrary.

I've been conducting an experiment recently - and I might make a separate thread to showcase this soon enough - where I've been bringing up the subject of presenting all the sides of bias news via outlets like AllSides to comment boards of news sites such as Fox's website and Huffingtonpost. So far, the results are... astonishing.
User avatar #49667 to #49627 - bypest (10/23/2013) [-]
The writer, who I can tell is a liberal female (without even reading the author's name), most likely a feminist and anti-racist, tries to get away with saying objectivity makes the world go round. Where?

She simply cannot notice that NYT is biased because she cannot recognize that it is impossible to have an "objective" mind. Every mind associates an object with a value, in other words. She enjoys the liberal slant on NYT, and thus finds it hard to recognize that it exists.

When I listen to Greg Gutfeld on Fox or Micheal Savage on the radio mocking libturds, I do not discredit their analysis on account of "bias." I agree with their opinions and enjoy their insight. I am not being "told" what to think; I already know what to think. She does too, hence her weighty claim that she researches political candidates on hundreds of websites. Why? Obviously, if objectivity makes the world go round, politics is not for her.

The writer is very wrong in saying that opinions should not exist in reporting, or that it is "bad." We had a thread on the "neutral" news issue not too long ago:
www.funnyjunk.com/politics/49162#49162

In the days of newspapers, every company had its opinions and respective readerships. This is true today. The writer, for instance, does not like FOX but loves the NYT and the Washington Compost. Neither of them are neutral and the Compost is blatantly liberal.

When a news source portrays it as one side or the other’s fault, it makes it even worse. People start arguing about who is right and who is wrong rather than compromising and fixing a situation. Believe it or not, compromise is actually possible. Looking at you, congress.
Or could it be that people have partisan believes, and that the media reflects it? Could it be that the Congress reflects it?
User avatar #49668 to #49667 - bypest (10/23/2013) [-]
Also, notice how she used the example of Obama being born in a different country as an example of false-media. Why not liberals stepping all over anthropology and genetics to push their racial-egalitarian believes?

Also, one discredits scientific thinking by a group of people who worship a God of Science, Dawkins, while the other was a rumor that did in fact have a basis. We know very little of Obama's past.

Look at some of her other articles:

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Add anti-abortion sweatshirts on top of your Bison Catholic shirts, and now I’m really annoyed. It’s a constant reminder for me of how many people do not accept a lack of religion yet.

In response to this religious trend on campus, I have been thinking about starting a Bison Atheist club. What would this entail you say? A bunch of like-minded people gathering once a week, or every other week, and discussing and ranting and just being together. Knowing that someone else supports you.

What about the compromise? We can't have political factions on campus because it breeds an environment of anti-intellectuality.

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What about Mexicans or blacks taking over neighborhoods, leaving them in ruin like ancient barbarians?
User avatar #49673 to #49668 - CapnInterwebz (10/24/2013) [-]
"Add anti-abortion sweatshirts on top of your Bison Catholic shirts, and now I’m really annoyed. It’s a constant reminder for me of how many people do not accept a lack of religion yet.

In response to this religious trend on campus, I have been thinking about starting a Bison Atheist club. What would this entail you say? A bunch of like-minded people gathering once a week, or every other week, and discussing and ranting and just being together. Knowing that someone else supports you."

The irony in this passage is overwhelming.
User avatar #49621 - tredbear (10/23/2013) [-]
58% Of Americans ARE RIGHT!

smoke weed everyday
#49610 - feelythefeel (10/23/2013) [-]
Wisdom of the wheneverIfeellikeit: The only thing worse than parents who throw their children to the wolves are parents who fear letting them near dogs.

Bonus wisdom: What a man writes perfectly represents what he is. When you see the writings of a man of good birth, most know them as those of such man, as they would the writings of a man of poor birth. This does not mean that education, as it stands, is to be bought. Rather, it means that education simply has a hefty, yet optional, subscription fee.
User avatar #49678 to #49610 - akkere (10/24/2013) [-]
Are these your original nuggets of wisdom or do you have some kind of book you keep around that's titled "Use in case of slow board"?
User avatar #49679 to #49678 - feelythefeel (10/24/2013) [-]
I always think of them myself. If you're trying to say you like them, I'm personally flattered.
User avatar #49680 to #49679 - akkere (10/24/2013) [-]
I do like them, it's like something you could fit in an autobiography or a history textbook.
Or a porn novel. You know, it's one of the dialogue. For character development.
User avatar #49681 to #49680 - feelythefeel (10/24/2013) [-]
Thanks.
User avatar #49607 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/23/2013) [-]
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Hey bypest wanna take care of this bitch for me? Seems to be she needs to be heavy red pill.
User avatar #49630 to #49629 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/23/2013) [-]
Wat?
#49632 to #49630 - maddboiy (10/23/2013) [-]
i dont think i like her very much
User avatar #49633 to #49632 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/23/2013) [-]
why?
User avatar #49635 to #49633 - maddboiy (10/23/2013) [-]
wait i'm confused, who's who in this?
User avatar #49636 to #49635 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/23/2013) [-]
I'm undead will
User avatar #49616 to #49607 - CapnInterwebz (10/23/2013) [-]
"okay so i don’t know why you had to try to belittle my opinions because i’m a “woman”"

Alright, I'm out.

I always thought others were just exaggerating when they made fun of these people.
User avatar #49620 to #49616 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/23/2013) [-]
I told her "Seems like someone is on the rag." I had an idea she was female so it doesn't help but I would have said if a man was a acting this way as well.
User avatar #49618 to #49616 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/23/2013) [-]
Nope She's really that insane.
User avatar #49617 to #49615 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/23/2013) [-]
This is what I have to put up with. Its not easy being capitalist.
User avatar #49612 to #49607 - jadewest (10/23/2013) [-]
holy shit
User avatar #49619 to #49612 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/23/2013) [-]
Yeah I know right?
User avatar #49602 - tredbear (10/23/2013) [-]
Scorpions - Wind Of Change

I will play this when democracy falls
User avatar #49603 to #49602 - pebar (10/23/2013) [-]
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
-Benjamin Franklin

you can go ahead and play it now
User avatar #49601 - mexicandudeinsd (10/23/2013) [-]
need pic of a black woman saying on twitter about how romney was telling the usa about creating more jobs and puting more people to work and she said that she didnt wanna work so thats why she voted for obama.
thanks
User avatar #49599 - pebar (10/22/2013) [-]
ITT: Drugs

It looks like a majority of the population supports legalizing weed. What do you guys think about legalizing other drugs though? If you legalize meth and allow for industrial production, the price will plummet and all the methheads will OD, thus no more meth heads; not to mention the decrease in violent trafficking. However according to the law of demand, when you decrease the price of a good, more people will enter the market. Do you think only stupid people would start meth if it were legalized? Do you think rehab for drug addiction should be subsidized since it's very difficult for people to beat drug addiction on their own? Do you think the money saved from ending the war on drugs would pay for the subsidies for rehab. Do you think drug trafficking is the primary source of revenue for gangs? And finally, do you think other countries would hate us since drugs would like flow into other countries more than they already do?
User avatar #49606 to #49599 - arisaka (10/23/2013) [-]
only if you can create a safe haven for people to do these drugs safely and in a manner where it is not destructive to anyone else.

I don't know if you guys have seen/dealt with that kind of environment before, but substance abuse and dependency is terrifying,
User avatar #49604 to #49599 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/23/2013) [-]
Legalize most of them.
User avatar #49600 to #49599 - mykoira (10/22/2013) [-]
Well, it's their own body, and if it would be done right they The government could get pretty good tax moneys. But on the other hand drugs are proven to cause schizophrenia, and treating that would cost more than we get from taxes. And then there is those 'hard-core' drugs, like 'Bath salts' and shit that makes you crazy.
#49576 - cabbagemayhem (10/22/2013) [-]
Guns must be banned at schools, otherwise there might be shootings. And, who could trust someone like this to have a gun?
User avatar #49592 to #49576 - akkere (10/22/2013) [-]
Agreed, anyone who wears those kinds of shades in 2013 is clearly up to no good.
#49583 to #49576 - pebar (10/22/2013) [-]
you're not very convincing
you're not very convincing
#49574 - CapnInterwebz (10/22/2013) [-]
>tfw you realize the NSA hasn't stopped their dubious shenanigans and that right now everything will do is still being collected as evidence in case we commit a crime
>tfw you realize the NSA hasn't stopped their dubious shenanigans and that right now everything will do is still being collected as evidence in case we commit a crime
User avatar #49588 to #49574 - beatmasterz (10/22/2013) [-]
Does it matter? If you commit a crime you deserve all the evidence being inflicted upon you.
User avatar #49589 to #49588 - feelythefeel (10/22/2013) [-]
Assuming that's valid, what if you don't? That "evidence" can still potentially be used against you.
User avatar #49651 to #49589 - beatmasterz (10/23/2013) [-]
Let me put it this way. Why do you think Snowden wasn't welcome in France, UK, Holland, Germany etc. and only in countries like Russia, Ecuador and China? Why wouldn't west europe support Snowden if the information wasn't damaging for themselves?
User avatar #49652 to #49651 - feelythefeel (10/23/2013) [-]
Because those places are the only ones whose governments both
1.) Didn't consider him a criminal.
2.) Were willing to take the risk of admitting him sanctuary.
User avatar #49653 to #49652 - beatmasterz (10/23/2013) [-]
How do you know that?
User avatar #49654 to #49653 - feelythefeel (10/23/2013) [-]
It's a possible conclusion, considering those countries's backgrounds, both culturally and politically.

How are you sure of your point?
User avatar #49655 to #49654 - beatmasterz (10/23/2013) [-]
Because, it's against the law for the government to spy on its own people. That's why they don't do that. They don't want to risk any lawsuits.
So how would they retrieve their information then? They spy on Europe and Europe on its turn spies on America, and then they swap information. Both parties benefit from it, and no laws are broken.
User avatar #49656 to #49655 - feelythefeel (10/23/2013) [-]
Aliens don't land on Earth because none of them can afford a permit. Yay ridiculous yet indisputable assertions!
User avatar #49657 to #49656 - beatmasterz (10/23/2013) [-]
Why is it ridiculous? It's in the news. Snowden is the most wanted man in America right now, so he obviously leaked information that's very damaging.
User avatar #49658 to #49657 - feelythefeel (10/23/2013) [-]
What part of that implies an international ponzi scheme?
User avatar #49659 to #49658 - beatmasterz (10/23/2013) [-]
How do you think NSA is able to spy on its people without getting sued?
User avatar #49660 to #49659 - feelythefeel (10/23/2013) [-]
Government shit, it wouldn't be the worst thing the government's done.
User avatar #49661 to #49660 - beatmasterz (10/23/2013) [-]
Really? Government shit?

By the way I found an article that sums up most of my opinion. It's your call to determine the validity of the telegraph, but I'm sure it has a core of truth in it.

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User avatar #49662 to #49661 - feelythefeel (10/23/2013) [-]
Holy shit, that article alone looks biased as fuck. It even borders on racist.
User avatar #49663 to #49662 - beatmasterz (10/23/2013) [-]
I admit it's a little biased, but the facts are indesputable. If you want to ignore those and stay in your ivory tower, I can't stop you.
User avatar #49664 to #49663 - feelythefeel (10/23/2013) [-]
If questioning a racist article without any sources on a website with questionable legitimacy is "Staying in an ivory tower", hand over the elephant tusk cup of wine, brother.
User avatar #49665 to #49664 - beatmasterz (10/23/2013) [-]
I've presented enough evidence and logic and all you have to say for yourself is "that's probably not true". So why are you so convinced they're not all in it?
User avatar #49672 to #49665 - feelythefeel (10/23/2013) [-]
I hold no value in faulty and unreliable evidence. I'm convinced because there's no good evidence to believe otherwise, or at least not enough to convince me of such a wide reaching conclusion. Also, what does this have to do with whether or not said surveillance is morally right?
User avatar #49694 to #49672 - beatmasterz (10/24/2013) [-]
The evidence is not faulty or unreliable, you're just denying. If someone was murdered and the murder weapon was in someone's appartment, you'd still say "faulty evidence, he probably borrowed it from the killer" or something. Learn to accept.
User avatar #49695 to #49694 - feelythefeel (10/24/2013) [-]
It would be more like if you said that the weapon was a plastic butter-knife, and found in a McDonald's. Even then, I'd be more likely to say that someone spread ketchup with it.
User avatar #49591 to #49589 - beatmasterz (10/22/2013) [-]
Sure, but it's not like you can stop it. The only reasonable fear we should have of the NSA is when it starts selling its information to private parties. Otherwise I wouldn't give a shit if I were you.
User avatar #49594 to #49591 - akkere (10/22/2013) [-]
Another reason for the fear is in the event that the information is used to blackmail individuals to adhere to interests they may otherwise oppose - e.g. What J. Edgar Hoover did and the FBI under Nixon (And I believe Nixon himself).
User avatar #49593 to #49591 - feelythefeel (10/22/2013) [-]
I don't fear for my safety, mainly because I'm Canadian but also because I'm not that interesting. Yet if I was American and I was being accused of a crime I didn't commit (Or potentially a major crime that should really be a minor crime such as possession of drugs like marijuana), NSA collected evidence could make all of the difference.

Also, "It's not like you can stop it". Isn't that the whole point of the debate? Whether or not to stop the NSA?
User avatar #49608 to #49593 - beatmasterz (10/23/2013) [-]
See but that's where you're wrong. The constitution says the American government can't spy on its people, so instead it spies on people in the rest of the world. And the rest of the world spies on america, and then they trade.
User avatar #49609 to #49608 - feelythefeel (10/23/2013) [-]
That's the whole argument, that the NSA is unconstitutional since it spies on the American people. There's no denying that, at the very least, it monitors Americans. Also, if the NSA was publicly spying on people of other countries, don't you think that the international community would have reacted due to the recent media coverage that it's gotten?
User avatar #49614 to #49609 - beatmasterz (10/23/2013) [-]
There is denying that, since they don't do that. As I've just explained. Also, most western countries agree with NSA's spying and participate in it. Most of their reactions are fake, because BREAKING NEWS politicians lie.
User avatar #49640 to #49639 - feelythefeel (10/23/2013) [-]
X Doubt.
User avatar #49641 to #49640 - beatmasterz (10/23/2013) [-]
I know, what are you in doubt about?
User avatar #49642 to #49641 - feelythefeel (10/23/2013) [-]
That whole part about the bullshit conspiracy.
User avatar #49643 to #49642 - beatmasterz (10/23/2013) [-]
I don't remember talking about a conspiracy.
User avatar #49644 to #49643 - feelythefeel (10/23/2013) [-]
"Also, most western countries agree with NSA's spying and participate in it. Most of their reactions are fake..."
User avatar #49645 to #49644 - beatmasterz (10/23/2013) [-]
How is that a conspiracy?
User avatar #49646 to #49645 - feelythefeel (10/23/2013) [-]
conspiracy
kənˈspɪrəsi/Submit
noun
1.
a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
"a conspiracy to destroy the government"
synonyms: plot, scheme, stratagem, plan, machination, cabal; More
User avatar #49647 to #49646 - beatmasterz (10/23/2013) [-]
It's how you look at it. I'm sure the world leaders didn't secretly convene somewhere to discuss how they're all going to screw over the privacy of the proletarians.
But if you follows the news a bit you keep hearing about "nsa spied on france, nsa spied on un, england spied on germany" etc etc.
User avatar #49648 to #49647 - feelythefeel (10/23/2013) [-]
I'm not denying that that happened, I'm denying that those other countries were spied on willingly.
User avatar #49649 to #49648 - beatmasterz (10/23/2013) [-]
If you understood dutch I would've shown you a lot of news reports, maybe you can google some for yourself.
User avatar #49650 to #49649 - feelythefeel (10/23/2013) [-]
Maybe. Maybe as in "Maybe I'll look up porn of a giantess spider Yotsuba".
User avatar #49573 - undeadwill ONLINE (10/22/2013) [-]
The History of Political Correctness (Complete)

Political correctness history.

I feel more enraged than ever.
User avatar #49580 to #49573 - Shiny (10/22/2013) [-]
Their definition of "politically correct" is a direct component of far-left authoritarianism. In modern politics, it's usually a buzzword for "not belligerent and shameless", just like "racist" means "not burdened with white guilt".
User avatar #49575 to #49573 - lulzforhiroshima (10/22/2013) [-]
i feel like those Frankfurt school assholes and Markuzo stoop onto a level as close as Hitler or Stalin. What pieces of shit....
User avatar #49669 to #49575 - bypest (10/23/2013) [-]
Hitler and Stalin were neither cultural Marxists. Unless you're speaking of "evil."
User avatar #49697 to #49669 - lulzforhiroshima (10/24/2013) [-]
no shit im speaking of evil dumbass....
User avatar #49563 - bypest (10/22/2013) [-]
Muslim Russia
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/20/pipes-muslim-russia/
www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/21/us-russia-blast-idUSBRE99K08G20131021

A Russian commentator he quotes envisions a mosque on Red Square in Moscow. The facile assumption that Moscow is and will remain Western-oriented “is no longer valid,” he argues.
>Russia
>Ever Western-oriented

hahaha...russia, you want constantinople? too bad! here bomb! fuck u!

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