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#18990 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
there's a politics board for 10 y/o to discuss politics HA
#18984 - jelatinman (12/31/2012) [-]
I thought there was gonna be a poll... not send me to Politics board. I'll just be leaving now
I thought there was gonna be a poll... not send me to Politics board. I'll just be leaving now
#18989 to #18984 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
Leave while you still can.
#18956 - sienimies (12/31/2012) [-]
MFW i come here and read some of the posts.
MFW i come here and read some of the posts.
#18964 to #18956 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
Get out, then...
#18963 to #18956 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
Just fuck off.
#18961 to #18956 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
Fahk u, sienimies
#18973 to #18961 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
samefag
#18951 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
America is freedom, take away our guns and we wont be free, i say marijuana should be legal and gay marriage the same
User avatar #18980 to #18951 - davidokuro (12/31/2012) [-]
I say everything should be legal.
#19170 to #18980 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
Crack can fuck a mother fucker up
User avatar #19522 to #19170 - davidokuro (01/01/2013) [-]
Hence, natural selection.
User avatar #18949 - malhaloc (12/31/2012) [-]
Wait...71% of FJ thinks we should ban guns or legalize gay marriage or both?
#18947 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
They should not ban guns. The bad people will always have guns, they do not follow laws, and the good people with guns will be the only ones able to protect us. They should also not legalize gay marriage. We should stop the hate against them though. I think that this will only lead more people to believe they are gay because people make them feel different. Relationships with the opposite sex are very difficult haha but in the end are worth it. I want "gay" people to find someone of the opposite sex that is right for them so they can be happy with a family of thier own.
#18952 to #18947 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
gay people are as able to find happiness with someone of the opposite sex as straight people are able to be happy with someone of the same.
You type like you're twelve though, so I don't expect much.
#18968 to #18952 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
No, I think people just get mislead and they form a self image of themselves based on certain stereotypes. If you look it up, there are many stories about "gay" people who became straight. I am not a hater, but making it legal would change a lot of things for the worse.
#18972 to #18968 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
I don't need to look up anything. Unlike you, I know what I'm talking about.
#18982 to #18972 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
"I don't need to look up anything" "I know what I'm talking about" Hmmm. I think you need some facts to back up your opinion. That's kinda how it works.
#18941 - archiferd (12/31/2012) [-]
Why did I come here? I don't even care
Why did I come here? I don't even care
#18943 to #18941 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
FUCK OFF, PENIS FACE
#18940 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
Ban guns is pointless, gay marriage should be legal.
#18933 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
I think gays are not cool. It isn't natural, and I was raised in a decent house with many opportunities. I went to church every Sunday but that doesn't change my stance on gay marriage. I think it is a choice, not a lifestyle. You can chose to be gay or not.
#18937 to #18933 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
Try harder.
User avatar #18936 to #18933 - thirteenthdoctor (12/31/2012) [-]
When did you choose to be straight?
#18942 to #18936 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
Because I like women. And being gay is not a good thing. It is unnatural and will earn you a 1 way ticket to Hell
#18946 to #18942 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
He has got a point you know.
User avatar #18945 to #18942 - thirteenthdoctor (12/31/2012) [-]
There are over 500 species of animals that have documented homosexual behavior.
I'm not talking about dominance, I mean homosexuality.
User avatar #18955 to #18945 - SemiAnon (12/31/2012) [-]
You ever get really horny, possibly drunk, and end up sucking some dick before the end of the night?
That's the equivalent of your documented homosexual behavior. None of those species engages in long-term, permanent homosexuality.
User avatar #18959 to #18955 - thirteenthdoctor (12/31/2012) [-]
No, I've never done that.

And there is documented long-term relationships. You just need to read up on it.
User avatar #18962 to #18959 - SemiAnon (12/31/2012) [-]
No there isn't.
User avatar #18967 to #18962 - thirteenthdoctor (12/31/2012) [-]
There really is. Monkeys, seals, otters, dolphins, buffalo and apes have all been documented to have long-term relationships with a member of the same sex, while refusing to breed with females/males (depending on their gender)

Plus, humans have had homosexuality forever, and gay marriage has been around since before Christianity.
User avatar #18975 to #18967 - SemiAnon (12/31/2012) [-]
I'm still not seeing any of this supposed documentation.
User avatar #18983 to #18979 - SemiAnon (12/31/2012) [-]
"Although homosexual behavior is very common in the animal world, it seems to be very uncommon that individual animals have a long-lasting predisposition to engage in such behavior to the exclusion of heterosexual activities. Thus, a homosexual orientation, if one can speak of such thing in animals, seems to be a rarity.[7] One species in which exclusive homosexual orientation occurs, however, is that of domesticated sheep (Ovis aries).[8][9] "About 10% of rams (males) refuse to mate with ewes (females) but do readily mate with other rams."

Down Syndrome is a rarity, too. I always knew sheep were the gayest animal.
User avatar #18987 to #18983 - thirteenthdoctor (12/31/2012) [-]
This still proves it is natural.
User avatar #18992 to #18987 - SemiAnon (12/31/2012) [-]
If taken in the literal sense, yes. In the same sense, down syndrome is a natural occurrence, but it isn't "correct."
User avatar #18993 to #18992 - thirteenthdoctor (12/31/2012) [-]
It isn't incorrect either. Are you saying we should deny people with Downs Syndrome the same rights you have?
#18998 to #18993 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
Arguing with stupid people won't do you much good.
The stupid do not see logic as we do.
User avatar #18994 to #18993 - SemiAnon (12/31/2012) [-]
Yes.
User avatar #18996 to #18994 - thirteenthdoctor (12/31/2012) [-]
Why?

And plus, homosexuality isn't a disability.
User avatar #19001 to #18996 - SemiAnon (12/31/2012) [-]
Because mentally retarded people are a drain on society. If you can't function on your own and contribute to something, you aren't worth keeping alive.

Higher risk of contracting HIV, inability to procreate unless going against their "natural" tendency. Seems like there's some downsides.
User avatar #19003 to #19001 - thirteenthdoctor (12/31/2012) [-]
HIV and AIDS are spread faster throughout the heterosexual population. There are alread 7 billion people in the world, a few gays unable to make more isn't going to hurt. Plus, there's adoption.
User avatar #19011 to #19003 - SemiAnon (12/31/2012) [-]
HIV and AIDS spread faster because there is more of them. A higher percentage of gays contract the diseases than straight people, due to their limitation to anal sex.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_sex#Infection

The population doesn't change the inherent problem with being unable to add to it. Would that be such a point of support if there were only 200 millions people in the world?
User avatar #19026 to #19011 - thirteenthdoctor (12/31/2012) [-]
You obviously haven't watched enough gay porn if you think gays are limited to anal.

There is no problem with homosexuality. In most cultures around the world, homosexuality is seen as a good thing, and many times homosexuals are given spiritual importance.

In our world today, I see no problem with homosexuality. The only reason I can think that you do is because you're in denial.
User avatar #19042 to #19026 - SemiAnon (12/31/2012) [-]
Limited as in there is no vagina.

That is a blatant lie.

I'm against blind acceptance of everything that differs from the norm for the sake of equality. I disagree, so that must mean I'm in denial/bigoted/cousin fucking redneck.
http://www.cdc.gov/msmhealth/STD.htm
#18966 to #18962 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
What about humans?
We're not talking about the rights of homosexual cows here.
So your point is moot anyway.
#18970 to #18966 - SemiAnon (12/31/2012) [-]
>Guy 1 uses homosexuality in animals as evidence that homosexuality in humans is natural
>guy 2 points out that the homosexuality in animals is short term, sexual gratification
>"woah buddy, we aren't talking about animals here"
#18974 to #18970 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
I'm not the one who brought it up as a defense, am I?
It's a pointless argument on either side.
#18948 to #18945 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
They are all going to hell, too. And they don't know it is bad. We are also animals, but we are smarter
User avatar #18954 to #18948 - thirteenthdoctor (12/31/2012) [-]
What's to say there is a hell?
An old book full of plot holes?

Didn't Jesus say to love everyone as an equal?
#18957 to #18954 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
He did, but at the time it was not as big a problem. I will let you win this one, due to the fact I have to leave. Don't think you won without my consent. I let you win this battle
User avatar #18960 to #18957 - thirteenthdoctor (12/31/2012) [-]
Sure thing, internet badass.
#18928 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
>implying Obama can just wave a magic wand and make guns illegal.
#18939 to #18928 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
SHUT UP, PENIS HEAD. OBAMA IS THE MOST POWERFUL MAN IN THE COUNTRY! HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS AT ANYTIME. HE CAN LOWER GAS, AND BAN GUNS. HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS!
User avatar #18944 to #18939 - michaeldemoin ONLINE (12/31/2012) [-]
im thinking that was implied sarcasm
#18923 - angelious (12/31/2012) [-]
but then gay people will never experience the joy of shotgun marriage :(
#18931 to #18923 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
they can't anyway. how the hell are they going to get pregnant?
#18932 to #18931 - angelious (12/31/2012) [-]
Somealiencopycatimpregnationidontknow....
Somealiencopycatimpregnationidontknow....
User avatar #18981 to #18932 - crimsontyyde ONLINE (12/31/2012) [-]
I like you.
User avatar #18916 - themasterdebater (12/31/2012) [-]
Obama should:
Legalize gay marriage
Ban assault weapons, but not guns
Legalize weed
Recognize the WBC as a hate group
Try not to let us go over the fiscal cliff
#19024 to #18916 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
I think you're wrong about the assault weapon ban. If someone wants to massacre defenseless people he/she can do it just as effectively with an assault rifle as they can with a pistol shotgun etc. The second amendment clearly implies that it's purpose is to protect peoples livelihoods (hunting), lives, and freedom (from government oppression. How can one protect himself and his rights from the government (the likelihood of this situation is absolutely irrelevant fyi) with pistols and shotguns or whatever else if he's fighting people with superior weaponry.
User avatar #19031 to #19024 - toplica (12/31/2012) [-]
completely agree
#19008 to #18916 - qwermy (12/31/2012) [-]
An "assault weapon" functions exactly the same as any other semi-auto, but looks more 'military'. Banning weapons based on appearance is useless. However, semi-autos make up the majority of guns used, and i do not want to see them banned either, particularly handguns, which are almost exclusively semi-auto (since bolt-action/single-shot handguns would be very impractical altogether). Therefore, I stand against the assault weapons ban. I wouldn't be opposed to background checks, and may be open to magazine limits for rifles, but no sweeping guns bans, and no registration. Why no registration? Look at what happened in New York. A newspaper made a map with the addresses of all gun owners. They're law-abiding citizens, not "potential criminals" or sex offenders. It isn't right to single out people for exercising a constitutional right.
User avatar #18924 to #18916 - lnerfan (12/31/2012) [-]
Do you even know what an "assault weapon" is?
User avatar #18969 to #18924 - themasterdebater (12/31/2012) [-]
The term "assault weapon" is pretty vague, what I'm talking about is semi automatic weapons that are similar to military weapons. I would like to see the FAWB reinstated.
User avatar #18985 to #18969 - internetzsoviet (12/31/2012) [-]
Any semi-automatic weapon is going to look like an assault weapon.

Because, you know, guns are manufactured primarily for the military, and the military is in the business of killing, and they kind of need their weapons to kill.

Fucking argument against "certain types" of guns is retarded.
User avatar #18914 - HumbertoL (12/31/2012) [-]
Guys Guys Guys

Did you know

Obama never said he was going to do either of those things. Apparently no one knows judging by the butthurt in some the comments.

He did speak about gay marriage, but that is being left up to congress.
#18915 to #18914 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
We know, but both topics are delicate and opinions are generally strong on either side.

Obama is also known to be pro-gay marriage, but as you said, it's not up to him.
Nothing really is.
User avatar #18919 to #18915 - HumbertoL (12/31/2012) [-]
Most of the comments follow the pattern of "Obama should" or "Obama can't"

Maybe its an American thing. Most countries say "We should" or "We can't"
User avatar #18986 to #18919 - crimsontyyde ONLINE (12/31/2012) [-]
It's because in the 60's the gov't sneaked their way to power so now the ignorant population relies on it for just about everything aside from wiping their ass.

:D 'MURRICA BITCHES
User avatar #18908 - hawkenboy (12/31/2012) [-]
I don't care about gay marriage. I don't think Obama should ban guns, like the CEO (I forgot if it was or not) said, "The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a goog guy with a gun."
#19060 to #18908 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
You mean the CEO who blamed Video games and other media for the shooting? after the fact it was proven it wasn't the shooter who even liked video games on facebook and he refused to support the senator of California's (I think) bill to investigate the effects of video games on a persons behavior.
User avatar #19088 to #19060 - hawkenboy (12/31/2012) [-]
I see what you mean, but kids now play alot of M rated games even though they are under the age limit for those games.
#18991 to #18908 - internetzsoviet (12/31/2012) [-]
I like you.
User avatar #19084 to #18991 - hawkenboy (12/31/2012) [-]
Which one, me or the anon?
User avatar #19268 to #19084 - internetzsoviet (12/31/2012) [-]
Well I replied to your comment...
User avatar #19523 to #19268 - hawkenboy (01/01/2013) [-]
Sorry didn't see that is was to me. It looked like you replied to the anon :/
User avatar #18911 to #18908 - hawkenboy (12/31/2012) [-]
The CEO of the NRA I mean...
#18906 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
Obama should not ban guns and should legalize gay marriage. He should also recognise the Westboro Baptist Church as a hate group.
User avatar #19044 to #18906 - toplica (12/31/2012) [-]
I don't think it's fair to recognize them as a hate group because they haven't done anything illegal and if we take away their right to free speech then a precedent will appear that makes it ok to ban free speech and the right to assemble from peaceful (they are peaceful so shut up) groups like OWS or whatever else. As for WBC i could hardly give a shit.
#18907 to #18906 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
This guy gets it.
User avatar #18904 - gameshredder (12/31/2012) [-]
DICKS
User avatar #18899 - nigalthornberry (12/31/2012) [-]
We go down the fiscal hill
At his inauguration speech obama blames republicans and gets more support
Everyone forgets about the debt ceiling deal
no deal is met and the US defaults and gets a credit downgrade
User avatar #18958 to #18899 - Psychotic (12/31/2012) [-]
Hooray for partisanship! (sarcasm)
#18896 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
I say we just have a better police policy. Rather than have just a solid police force, have something of a trained volunteer policy. Give volunteer citizens certain training and give them some legal authority in situations of clear and evident violation of the law. So if you want to own a gun, you have to take the responsibility after being trained and evaluated by actual police. That way, responses to the immediate crime would be a lot faster and we could prevent more things such as mass shootings because these people would probably be everywhere, but we would still maintain a regular police commission who have more legal authority.

The only problem I can see is that people don't want guns so they can protect others, they only want to protect themselves.

However, you can rest assured that as long as people feel the need for guns to defend themselves, there would always be a presence of people ready and capable of countering crimes in progress, but would not have to increase taxes much if at all for a volunteering program. The rest of us could rest assured that the people who have guns are not going to use it when they come home to their wives cheating on them (where the vast majority of gun murders occur).

Think of it like your local volunteer fire dept. They are always on call and have other jobs, but they are present when they are needed.
#18900 to #18896 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
A militia.
User avatar #18995 to #18900 - internetzsoviet (12/31/2012) [-]
What you're basically saying is we should encourage concealed carry.

Citizens have the authority to stop crimes in progress and can perform citizen's arrests. No one is stopping them.
#18902 to #18900 - N. Korean citizen (12/31/2012) [-]
Something like that, but part of the police hierarchy and are held accountable as a cop would be in these situations. Militias are citizen organized, I'm referring to local extensions of the police.
User avatar #18892 - thegaminator (12/31/2012) [-]
What if this is magical fairy princess's way of getting us to go after items again?
#18891 - crazyeyedbioll (12/31/2012) [-]
if he bans guns there will be a civil war, or uprising of some kind
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