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User avatar #41574 - marinepenguin
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(12/27/2015) [-]
This pre workout is some seriously powerful shit. Never felt so focused and intense during a workout before.
#41575 to #41574 - marinepenguin
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User avatar #41578 to #41575 - cptmongtard
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I love cellucor C4
User avatar #41580 to #41578 - marinepenguin
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I used to use that. It's pretty basic stuff for the most part.
User avatar #41581 to #41580 - cptmongtard
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Eh, does the job for me. Better than gold standard anyway. And tastes way better
User avatar #41582 to #41581 - marinepenguin
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I've found that the worse a pre workout tastes, the better it is. Mainly because the things that are most effective in preworkouts taste awful, so if a pre workout tastes bad it has less filler in it and is higher in stimulants, focusing agents, etc in terms of dosages.

That's just an observation of mine though.
User avatar #41583 to #41582 - cptmongtard
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Yeah I suppose that makes sense
#41504 - bluearrow
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So Im on a cut again with all my fucking gains ive obtain from all the time ive benched 45, my daily intake is 1000 calories so im thinking maybe 500 calories for a cut? Or is that still too much?
User avatar #41518 to #41504 - studbeefpile
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(12/27/2015) [-]
tysm
User avatar #41546 to #41518 - cognosceteipsum
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(12/27/2015) [-]
GTK, RWN
User avatar #41585 to #41546 - studbeefpile
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I don't think you know what we're talkin about, bud.
User avatar #41590 to #41585 - cognosceteipsum
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(12/28/2015) [-]
That's what I was trying to illustrate. Me using a completely irrelevant acronym. I know tysm means thank you so much and I assume the rest is some kind of lifting lingo

Please tell me your not Jewish..
User avatar #41599 to #41590 - studbeefpile
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what's a jewish?
User avatar #41611 to #41599 - cognosceteipsum
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Oy vey the 6 million
User avatar #41613 to #41611 - studbeefpile
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6 billion? Wow, that's a lot. Do you really think it could've been 6 trillion? I just can't believe it was 6 quadrillion....
User avatar #41614 to #41613 - cognosceteipsum
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(12/28/2015) [-]
Id roleplay more as a Jew or something but it's gotten old.
User avatar #41538 to #41518 - marinepenguin
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(12/27/2015) [-]
Hyls
User avatar #41539 to #41538 - studbeefpile
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(12/27/2015) [-]
Hey, picking up the lingo!

Getting thick brother, yessir.
User avatar #41540 to #41539 - marinepenguin
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(12/27/2015) [-]
I don't get the inside memes 90% of the time.
User avatar #41541 to #41540 - studbeefpile
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It just takes a while. Give it enough time, and enough glasses of Unclo Milk. You'll get catch on.
User avatar #41542 to #41541 - marinepenguin
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(12/27/2015) [-]
I'll have to ask your mothlet.
User avatar #41544 to #41542 - studbeefpile
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(12/27/2015) [-]
u don talk to me like dat. ur fathlet tech u dis?
User avatar #41520 to #41518 - bluearrow
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(12/27/2015) [-]
Tysm?

Is that a supplement for cutting?
User avatar #41522 to #41520 - studbeefpile
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(12/27/2015) [-]
thank you...so much.....
User avatar #41525 to #41522 - bluearrow
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(12/27/2015) [-]
Oh, sorry. Its a low protein day for me.cant think straight. Actually its a low everything day.
#41473 - leal
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Would my hips get decently slimmer if I cut?
User avatar #41588 to #41473 - ieatbengay
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i dont think bones change size dood
User avatar #41547 to #41473 - cognosceteipsum
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(12/27/2015) [-]
How old are you btw
User avatar #41548 to #41547 - leal
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How old do I seem?
User avatar #41569 to #41548 - cognosceteipsum
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Oh the typical "dude quit while you're ahead dude I don't give you anything to counter my arguments with dude"
#41570 to #41569 - leal
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Seriously, you've never been there and you're spouting useless horse shit.
You have no idea what you're talking about and you're wasting my time.
Shut the fuck up and go eat a bagel you fat fuck.
User avatar #41571 to #41570 - cognosceteipsum
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Way to do exactly what I just said you did. Man, do you lack substance.
#41572 to #41571 - leal
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Man do you lack muscle mass.
User avatar #41573 to #41572 - cognosceteipsum
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Kids these days...
User avatar #41549 to #41548 - cognosceteipsum
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14-17
#41550 to #41549 - leal
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Well I'm 19 m8
Well I'm 19 m8
User avatar #41551 to #41550 - cognosceteipsum
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Oh, alright. What month you were born in?
User avatar #41552 to #41551 - leal
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October why?
User avatar #41553 to #41552 - cognosceteipsum
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Youngin.
User avatar #41554 to #41553 - leal
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Ok, what's your point?
User avatar #41556 to #41554 - cognosceteipsum
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A point*
User avatar #41555 to #41554 - cognosceteipsum
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lol
I don't have a pound really, I guess my nose could be considered pointy... Iunno.
User avatar #41557 to #41555 - leal
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(12/27/2015) [-]
IF I wanted to hear a joke I'd ask for your one rep maxes.
User avatar #41558 to #41557 - cognosceteipsum
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Meh
3/10
It's gotta be personal with these things
And I'm a newbie so it doesn't really apply
User avatar #41559 to #41558 - leal
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Gee sure is newfag up in here
User avatar #41560 to #41559 - cognosceteipsum
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Congratulations, you can read.
User avatar #41561 to #41560 - leal
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Yeah you def don't browse /fit/
User avatar #41562 to #41561 - cognosceteipsum
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Are you saying that as an insult?
User avatar #41563 to #41562 - leal
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Yes
User avatar #41566 to #41563 - cognosceteipsum
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Oh and there are much more people there than there are on a board like this, meaning a mismatch in personality is bound to happen pretty quickly. On this board, people seem pretty chill but Yknow, I've always got flashback if I need more help.
User avatar #41564 to #41563 - cognosceteipsum
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I don't like fit. Elitism and inferiority complexes.
User avatar #41565 to #41564 - leal
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Yeah now I know you definitely haven't been to /fit/
User avatar #41567 to #41565 - cognosceteipsum
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Two my friend browse fit or used to browse fit daily and they've told me about it. It's the same as the other boards.
#41568 to #41567 - leal
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Seriously just stop
Seriously just stop
#41502 to #41473 - anon id: 9c879c26
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i think you should be more worried about your chest if that's what i think it is

the only thing that will make your hips less noticable is a wider back. cutting will do the opposite
#41503 to #41502 - leal
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Chest won't grow so
Chest won't grow so
User avatar #41512 to #41503 - studbeefpile
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You have to actually bulk, and bench press more bud.
#41513 to #41512 - leal
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I do bench and flies
User avatar #41517 to #41513 - studbeefpile
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It's also possible your form and/or programming is fucky. I spent a couple years hitting the bench hard and making no gains because I was an idiot about it.
User avatar #41589 to #41517 - ieatbengay
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what did you change?
are you saying consistent progression doesn't guarantee results?
User avatar #41521 to #41517 - leal
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(12/27/2015) [-]
Well I feel like whenever I bench it focuses on my shoulders more
User avatar #41532 to #41521 - bluearrow
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Your traps and hip should be the only thing touching the bench to activate chest. Might wanna go back to some weights to practice.
User avatar #41535 to #41532 - leal
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I thought curving your back was bad form?
User avatar #41537 to #41535 - bluearrow
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Cat spining on back workouts is bad, if you think abiut it. You chest puffs out as your hip and traps touch only putting more work on chest.
User avatar #41523 to #41521 - studbeefpile
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Then you need to rework your form, and possibly use a wider grip. Your benching should also be paused on the chest.
User avatar #41543 to #41523 - marinepenguin
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Some people due to their builds don't actually see much chest activation during bench pressing, I don't know if that's the case here, but it happens.
User avatar #41527 to #41523 - leal
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b-but wider form hurts my tiny wrists



and don't worry I pause bench,
#41530 to #41527 - studbeefpile
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Get some wrist wraps. I always wrap for anything over 205 because I have dainty wrists - the only advantage of which is that they make my forearms look a little bigger.
User avatar #41531 to #41530 - leal
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wrist wraps for benching?

I thought they were only used for pulling movements?
User avatar #41533 to #41531 - studbeefpile
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There's a difference between straps and wraps.
User avatar #41536 to #41533 - leal
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Mhm I'll buy some when I get back to Paris, thanks for the advice
User avatar #41516 to #41513 - studbeefpile
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"more"
User avatar #41477 to #41473 - bluearrow
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Bro, go uppercut yourself.
User avatar #41483 to #41477 - leal
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what
User avatar #41505 to #41483 - bluearrow
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Youre tryna obtain a the v taper look right?
User avatar #41506 to #41505 - leal
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No, just get smaller looking hips
User avatar #41507 to #41506 - bluearrow
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For the v shape of the body?
User avatar #41508 to #41507 - leal
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No I just don't like how large my hips are
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User avatar #41514 to #41509 - leal
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Synthus?
User avatar #41515 to #41514 - bluearrow
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Were you calli ng another user?

Unless synthus is asian. Um sure.
User avatar #41519 to #41515 - leal
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synthus is asian.
You have the same ab inserts as him
User avatar #41526 to #41519 - bluearrow
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Right.... is he from Singapore too?
User avatar #41528 to #41526 - leal
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I don't remember, sorry.
User avatar #41529 to #41528 - bluearrow
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I use to have an 8 pack, unless synthus is gay and use to have a 8npack, then hes me.
User avatar #41474 to #41473 - marinepenguin
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Your love handles and obliques would, but your hips would not. Can't change bone structure.
User avatar #41482 to #41474 - leal
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Aren't hips lovehandles?

User avatar #41487 to #41482 - marinepenguin
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Your hips are usually right below your love handles.
Fatty part of your side and back is love handles,hips are right where your waistband goes, skin over bone.
#41488 to #41487 - leal
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I see.

Well I'm gonna focus on back for a while and see if that helps and if not I'll just cut then.
User avatar #41500 to #41488 - studbeefpile
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That's definitely one way to do it. Having giant lats will help to offset naturally wide hips. I have fuckin child-birthing hips, but none of my friends seem to notice because my back is so damn wide.
User avatar #41501 to #41500 - leal
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What's a good back routine?
User avatar #41510 to #41501 - studbeefpile
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Improving your deadlift should be your overall focus, with accessories being

Bent Over Rows
Supinated Cable Pull Downs
Wide Grip Cable Pull Downs
Dumbbell Rows

Just focus on doing more on all of those, you'll get bigger. Lots of volume, lots of reps, etc.
User avatar #41511 to #41510 - leal
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thanks
User avatar #41484 to #41482 - cognosceteipsum
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Love handles = fat around it
Hips = the bone part
As far as I understand it
#41485 to #41484 - leal
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GIF
w-well yeah


But then my hips would get slimmer if I cut, wouldn't they?
User avatar #41486 to #41485 - cognosceteipsum
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If you started consuming gross amount of cortisone, stopped consuming diary products to the point of where your bone starts to break down your bone might be brittle enough for you to mold a bit but you'd probably break a leg or two trying to do that.
User avatar #41470 - cognosceteipsum
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It's either here or science because advice will be infested by amateurs who just go by anecdotal evidence.

Nofap. Let's clear it up once and for all.

Does anyone have any hard, empirical data on this shit? I for one have been doing a month of it now soon and to be honest, the
User avatar #41534 to #41470 - studbeefpile
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I went from watching porn and fapping 2-5 times a day, to not watching any porn at all, and only fapping once every 3-5 days. Never felt better.
User avatar #41586 to #41534 - marinepenguin
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I was nofap for the whole time at basic and that was brutal.
User avatar #41545 to #41534 - cognosceteipsum
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Well, that's more of a psychological thing I'd say.
User avatar #41475 to #41470 - marinepenguin
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Masturbating and Testosterone and MAKING GAINZ

A for serious answer is no.
User avatar #41476 to #41475 - marinepenguin
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As in no it doesn't effect gains.
User avatar #41478 to #41476 - cognosceteipsum
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What about testosterone in general? Like, is there any reason to actually do it?

I know I'm slightly going off topic but people here seem competent enough when it comes to knowledge about hormones.
User avatar #41479 to #41478 - marinepenguin
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Does it effect testosterone levels? To a degree, yes. Does it effect testosterone levels enough to go no-fap? Nope. Fap away, have sex as much as possible, enjoy your life at times. Lifting should be a sweet release from reality for an hour or two a day, not something that keeps you from beating your meat and worrying about test levels. This is especially important at your level of training. Instead of worrying about your test levels, train right and eat better first. Bench your bodyweight and squat or pull 1.5 times your bodyweight. It's too early and you're too young to worry about hormones.
User avatar #41481 to #41479 - cognosceteipsum
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I'll see myself coming here more often then
User avatar #41489 to #41481 - marinepenguin
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Good. Glad to see more users here.

Not surprising you know my name, I post YouTube vids all the time and my name there is my full name.
User avatar #41490 to #41489 - cognosceteipsum
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Wait you post your own YouTube videos?
User avatar #41491 to #41490 - marinepenguin
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Well, it's usually of me working out, not like explanation videos.

How do you know my name then?
User avatar #41492 to #41491 - cognosceteipsum
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I never saw you post any videos but your profile says like "leonard2850" in a few places
User avatar #41493 to #41492 - marinepenguin
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Ahhh gotcha. Makes sense.

But yeah I post videos occasionally.
User avatar #41495 to #41493 - cognosceteipsum
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I apologize for my bad English I'm not even trying honestly, as long as the thoughts are communicated
User avatar #41494 to #41493 - cognosceteipsum
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Ye. This is like the first time in freaking ages that I actually feel semi fit even though well, I'm pretty fat so still. But some parts of my arms have hardened. I'm eating well, that I know. It's Christmas and I've treated myself to like 2 pieces of chocolate that you get in those boxes and some other chocolate, that's about it. After a while you don't really feel you need it.

I like watching others in real time so to speak. The gym is the only place where you can stand and watch as other men grunt and sweat without being gay.
User avatar #41496 to #41494 - marinepenguin
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Well here's one of my videos if you want to see them.

Rows
User avatar #41497 to #41496 - cognosceteipsum
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You look strong... But you look so thin.
User avatar #41498 to #41497 - marinepenguin
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I'm 6'3 210 and maybe 12% body fat. I thought I looked thin in that video too.
User avatar #41499 to #41498 - cognosceteipsum
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Maybe it's something with the lighting. My build is really great for weightlifting, I think I'd be a good powerlifter. I can't say for sure, but I think my bodytype is about the same as Studs
User avatar #41480 to #41479 - cognosceteipsum
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Interesting, thanks Leo <3
User avatar #41441 - mikeypooh
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i know multivitamins dont cure anything or are a super food thing but do they still provide the vitamins and minerals that are on the bottle?
User avatar #41452 to #41441 - marinepenguin
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Take one, it won't hurt, they're cheap and it can provide things you may be missing in your diet.
User avatar #41433 - cognosceteipsum
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So I drink quark which is a diary product that is pretty high protein, designed for when you work out.

I usually do like this, I take a sip after every machine / segment of workout (I.e Dumbell curls, shoulder press). When I'm done with all of the workouts, I drink up what's left. Would this work?
User avatar #41443 to #41433 - marinepenguin
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It's unnecessary. Just drink it all after your workouts, no need to use it for an intraworkout supplement.
User avatar #41447 to #41443 - cognosceteipsum
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I read online and they said it was enough if I drank one of these kvarg things. If I do the math, according to mongtard, I'd need to drink 10 of these.
User avatar #41451 to #41447 - marinepenguin
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He said you'd need to drink 210 grams of protein throughout the day, not in one sitting. Get your protein from sources other then a drink supplement like meat, eggs, cheeses, etc.

And it won't hurt I guess, but it won't help, you may as well be drinking water instead.
User avatar #41454 to #41451 - cognosceteipsum
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Yeah I guess I've got that covered. Meatballs, an egg and turkey slices.
User avatar #41445 to #41443 - cognosceteipsum
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Ok then. But it won't hurt right
User avatar #41434 to #41433 - cptmongtard
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Work for what? The question isn't really clear. You want to be aiming for at least 1g protein per lb you weigh so if you want that as your primary source of protein, no it won't work. You may as well drink water intra workout and quark post workout
User avatar #41438 to #41434 - cognosceteipsum
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Uh.. I weigh approx 215-220 lb :| but the thing is a lot of my weight is in my skeletal structure. I don't do leg so we can count them out.
User avatar #41442 to #41438 - marinepenguin
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No, your bones don't make up the majority of your weight by any means, and do legs.
User avatar #41446 to #41442 - cognosceteipsum
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And my legs are very large
User avatar #41444 to #41442 - cognosceteipsum
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I didn't say majority I just meant a fair amount
User avatar #41450 to #41444 - marinepenguin
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Still false. I highly doubt your bones are a significant amount larger then the average persons without you suffering from some sort of growth affliction. And having "big legs" doesn't mean you skip leg day. Those are some of the largest muscles in the body and they need to be trained, don't be lazy.
User avatar #41453 to #41450 - cognosceteipsum
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I'm not lazy dude. I don't skip leg day because of that. I ''skip'' leg day part because I run so much and part because I received a good schedule from an instructor which didn't include leg. I'm gonna implement some things for leg later on but I need to research more.
User avatar #41455 to #41453 - marinepenguin
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I'm not saying you're a lazy person, I'm saying that not doing legs is a lazy decision.

And a trainer who makes a program without including legs, is not a good trainer. Even people with knee, hip or ankle injuries can safely train legs. Running shouldn't stop you from doing that as well. Squats and Lunges alone are all a beginner really needs.
User avatar #41456 to #41455 - cognosceteipsum
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Water lunges

I did leg press for a while.

It's still not a lazy decision as it was more out of confusion, like, I want to do something proper. I don't feel like starting with some workout and then reading 5 months later that it's bogus and don't do anything
User avatar #41457 to #41456 - marinepenguin
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If you do basic research on weight training for beginners, it almost always consists of the big lifts. Squats, Bench press, deadlifts and rows.

Water lunges aren't going to help you. Multi-joint loaded movements like the squat are the best for you in terms of improving strength, size, and body compositio. Especially for beginners.

As a beginner you don't need 10 different machine lifts to get bigger and stronger or lose fat. You'll see the best progress with using the big lifts and improving your lifts every workout. I think you're really overcomplicating things right now and at some point will stop seeing any progress.
User avatar #41458 to #41457 - cognosceteipsum
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Man now I'm depressed, do I have to remake stuff

I meant water as in what are
User avatar #41459 to #41458 - marinepenguin
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YouTube is a wonderful tool.
User avatar #41460 to #41459 - cognosceteipsum
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Still confused. Why do some people refer me to free weights and some people refer me to machines? I love the machines. It's great fun and exercises a lot of different muscles for me.
User avatar #41461 to #41460 - marinepenguin
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Machines have their place, I use them. But beginners see greater gains from free weights. Not even advanced lifters use only machines.

People who tell you to rely on machines or have them as their primary form of lifting weights aren't knowledgeable and I'll debate with them all day about that in confidence. Machines should be used for isolation and volume as a secondary.
User avatar #41462 to #41461 - cognosceteipsum
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Well I do four main things non machine related
I plank
I do Dumbell curls
I do the thing where you lay down and you lift Dumbbells up in the air then down to your sides
I do the thing where I lift them up to shoulder height with my arms outstretched
User avatar #41464 to #41462 - marinepenguin
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Like I said, you're better off doing big barbell compound movements like bench presses, rows, squats, deadlifts, overhead presses, etc and getting stronger at these movements every workout. If you want to build muscle, lose fat, get stronger and generally feel better, this is the best way to do it if you are lifting weights. You've done a good job of getting into the weight room, now you need to learn a proper program and actually see significant progress.
User avatar #41465 to #41464 - cognosceteipsum
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Well I have a friend at that very gym who lifts free weights. Could ask him for help

Thanks for the advice.
And thanks for the existential crisis [small][small]
User avatar #41466 to #41465 - marinepenguin
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No problem, good luck with your progress. Everyone goes through that period where they aren't knowledgeable and aren't seeing huge progress. Just make this the end of that period and see some sick gains.
User avatar #41467 to #41466 - cognosceteipsum
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Tbf I did some pretty good progress so far imo but maybe I'll be seeing even sicker gains using barbells
User avatar #41471 to #41467 - marinepenguin
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Cardio is fine. Run to your hearts content
User avatar #41472 to #41471 - cognosceteipsum
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I'm just really depressed I may have to change some of that too. My breathing and heart is fine, endurance is fine, I don't believe I get exhausted easily but damn my ankles are killing me
User avatar #41468 to #41467 - marinepenguin
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I wouldn't be surprised if you've lost weight by eating better and doing more activity.

I'm just saying you've been doing it in an inefficient manner. Trust me, barbells ain't no lie.
User avatar #41469 to #41468 - cognosceteipsum
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So what about the running then, can I keep at that?
User avatar #41436 to #41434 - cognosceteipsum
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Full body... At least that's what my friend calls it (back, triceps, biceps, pectoral, abdominal I think?) Hm now that I think of it. It's 33 cl bottle of quark.

So what you're telling me is to drink water before and quark straight after.
User avatar #41437 to #41436 - cptmongtard
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But what is your goal for the quark to do?
User avatar #41440 to #41437 - cognosceteipsum
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Uh.. Well, after work out drink to replace and rebuild muscle.
User avatar #41431 - maddboiy
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When is the best time to take creatine? I'd have thought it'd be better to take pre-work out but some people say post is better. Is one time better than the other?
User avatar #41448 to #41431 - dudewtflolpoo
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When I did use creative, I had it with breakfast. Does not matter when you take it, it stays in your body.
User avatar #41432 to #41431 - marinepenguin
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It doesn't really matter.
#41413 - studbeefpile
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Carrying on my merry old tradition of Christmas Deadlifts.

Merry Liftmas, fajjits.
#41394 - donnybergerstory
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merry xmas y'all
User avatar #41463 to #41394 - leal
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Nice calves :^)
User avatar #41405 to #41394 - cognosceteipsum
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wow! how long time?
User avatar #41406 to #41405 - donnybergerstory
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a little over a year now. ive been going low carb for 3 weeks and thought i should share.
User avatar #41408 to #41406 - cognosceteipsum
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nice. honestly I'm just cutting down on anything and just try to fill my belly when I'm hungry with healthy things, that workks too i suppose.

can i get some stats ?
User avatar #41429 to #41408 - donnybergerstory
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oh i started at 240 and i am 185 now.
User avatar #41392 - donnybergerstory
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so just got a fitbit for xmas along with some of those compression pants and a belt. what u guys get thats lifting related?
User avatar #41449 to #41392 - dudewtflolpoo
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Nothing. My family doesn't know I lift.
User avatar #41439 to #41392 - cptmongtard
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Compression shirt, foam roller, clothes
User avatar #41407 to #41392 - cognosceteipsum
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quark and some lifting things not sure what they're called. basically one of those things you swing around and one thing you lift up and down but it's not a dumbbell.
User avatar #41425 to #41407 - marinepenguin
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Kettlebells?
User avatar #41427 to #41425 - cognosceteipsum
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ye
thnx
User avatar #41401 to #41392 - Draigor
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food
User avatar #41404 to #41401 - donnybergerstory
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thats the best gift you could give a lifter
User avatar #41398 to #41392 - marinepenguin
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EZ curl bar, v-shaped pushdown bar, belt, and a book full of cooking recipes for weightlifters.
User avatar #41399 to #41398 - donnybergerstory
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nice. whats the book called? does it include macros and calories?
User avatar #41400 to #41399 - marinepenguin
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"The Shredded Chef"

And yes it does.
User avatar #41403 to #41400 - donnybergerstory
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no way i was just looking at that book on amazon yesterday
User avatar #41409 to #41403 - marinepenguin
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It's pretty good. Lots of simple recipes, I'll be trying a lot of them out.
User avatar #41435 to #41409 - cptmongtard
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I love The Shredded Chef
User avatar #41428 to #41409 - donnybergerstory
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might have to buy it. let me know how u like it. im sure theres a pdf somewhere
#41391 - the one and only
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So its christmas, im at the gym since they finally opened up and the perks are amazing, its a 3x bonus on strenght and mass gains. So i decided to train my whole body. Im now 5 poubds heavier swear not from the food but because of the bonus

But anyway merry christmas from Australia!
User avatar #41389 - studbeefpile
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Merry Christmas, budlets.
User avatar #41402 to #41389 - Draigor
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Merry Christmas StudBeefJerkey
User avatar #41390 to #41389 - the one and only
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Merry christmas, dont forget to workout on xmas, its a 3x bonus on strenght and mass gains.
User avatar #41396 to #41390 - studbeefpile
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This will be my third year carrying on the merry old tradition of Christmas Deadlifts.
User avatar #41421 to #41396 - the one and only
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Should throw on christmas decorations kn the bar,.that or hook on some.candy canes all over the bar :p
User avatar #41347 - marinepenguin
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Rows

Watch me row 215, 225, and 235 with straps. New PRs all Damn day.
User avatar #41358 to #41347 - studbeefpile
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Straps, u mean

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srs though, you should learn hook grip.
User avatar #41363 to #41358 - marinepenguin
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Well my grip is a weak point, so straps allow me to get better work in. I'm doing a lot of grip work to bring them up too. Plus I do rows without straps before these too.

And I'd prefer to get stronger in conventional grip instead of switching to hook.
User avatar #41393 to #41363 - donnybergerstory
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straps make my grip worse... idk if im wearing them wrong, or i just have to get used to them- but whenever i use them i find that i can hardly grip anything.
User avatar #41395 to #41393 - marinepenguin
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The whole point of straps is to make grip no longer be a limiting factor, so if your grip is failing WHILE wearing straps, you're wearing then wrong. Relying on straps too much can really make your grip weaker in comparison though.
User avatar #41366 to #41363 - the one and only
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Dont do monkey grip?
User avatar #41368 to #41366 - marinepenguin
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I do that for my grip work. Thumb-less grip is fun.
User avatar #41369 to #41368 - the one and only
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Its always great to try different things, im always constantly learning. Ever since you mentioned Thumbless reverse curls on bb ive been doing everytime i go do arms. I feel theyve really helped alot.
User avatar #41372 to #41369 - marinepenguin
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I agree, I throw something new into my workouts maybe once a week that I see online or read about. If I like it I throw it into my workouts, if not I toss it.
User avatar #41364 to #41363 - studbeefpile
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Using hook instead of straps will make your standard double overhand stronger. Of course you should be doing extra grip work anyway, obviously. Using 'wanting a stronger double over' as an excuse to use straps instead of hook is ridiculous.
User avatar #41365 to #41364 - marinepenguin
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Of course using hook will make me stronger, it's a stronger form of a grip because the thumb is more secure, it creates the same effects as straps. Which is greater energy transfer to the bar allowing greater strength production.

I'm not competing, so I have no reason not to use straps as long as my grip doesn't completely fall behind, which I won't let that happen for greater pulls.
User avatar #41367 to #41365 - studbeefpile
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Isn't your grip already behind though?

And I'm saying hook grip will improve your overall grip strength way more than using straps - which will do nothing for you.
User avatar #41370 to #41367 - marinepenguin
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By about 20 pounds on the deadlift, and I can row 225 for a couple without straps.

And I didn't say straps improve my grip. I do mostly strapless work, I just add in straps for fun once a week or two. Still, I have never heard that hook grip inherently improves your grip, just that it's an easier grip variation like mixed grip. I can mixed grip deadlift just fine without straps, I just don't like doing it.
User avatar #41371 to #41370 - studbeefpile
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Anything that uses your hands instead of straps is going to be better than straps. Mixed grip is silly though because of the asymmetrical tightening of your lats.
User avatar #41375 to #41371 - marinepenguin
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And you have a higher chance of spinal issues with mixed grip over time.
User avatar #41374 to #41371 - marinepenguin
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I agree that hook is definitely a step up from straps in term of grip, obviously. But like I said, I'd prefer to just get stronger with a conventional grip.
User avatar #41377 to #41374 - studbeefpile
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Yeah that's reasonable. You need to get some adjustable dumbbells and start hitting farmers hard. They've done wonders for my grip.
User avatar #41349 to #41347 - the one and only
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Whats the heaviest youve gone without a strap?
User avatar #41350 to #41349 - marinepenguin
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205 for 8.
User avatar #41362 to #41350 - the one and only
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No straps of course. With straps idk how much i csn do id like to say in theory 180
User avatar #41360 to #41350 - the one and only
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Ive learnt to love rows, 8 weeks ago i learnt to properly do them abd now im able to do upnto 155 for 10 reps. Just feels so good.
User avatar #41336 - leal
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>TFW drunk off champagne and stomach fuller than when I tried to eat 100 chicken nuggets in one sitting

I just hope my gym is open tomorrow, for those of you who can't have a home gym is your gym open tomorrow?
User avatar #41430 to #41336 - cognosceteipsum
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Mine was open Christmas Eve.
User avatar #41346 to #41336 - the one and only
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Doesnt open till 2 pm sadly.
User avatar #41341 to #41336 - cptmongtard
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Mine is. It's the benefit of going to a Paki gym
User avatar #41332 - beyondthebatman
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Chest and Tri, Back and Bi, Legs, Shoulders and Arms, Iso Chest, Legs.

Is this a good split?
User avatar #41334 to #41332 - marinepenguin
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Why not just run P/P/L for 6 days on 1 day off?

You'll get more back work in that way.
User avatar #41335 to #41334 - beyondthebatman
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Never done PPL is it good for aesthetics?
User avatar #41339 to #41335 - cptmongtard
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I can vouch for PPL. Been running it 2 months and seen my best gains from it in both size and strength
User avatar #41338 to #41335 - marinepenguin
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Yes. I've been running it for a long ass time and it's been amazing for me.
User avatar #41337 to #41335 - leal
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Nonono, you'll simply get stronger without your muscles growing :^).
Which is why the strongest guys in the world look like they escaped from auschwitz :^)
User avatar #41343 to #41337 - marinepenguin
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More strength doesn't always equal more muscle.
User avatar #41344 to #41343 - leal
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wat
User avatar #41348 to #41344 - the one and only
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Are you someone who believes pulling the absolute heaviest weight is more beneficial compared to being under the tension?
User avatar #41354 to #41348 - leal
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no
User avatar #41355 to #41354 - the one and only
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Okay, your opinions seem different each time is all.
User avatar #41397 to #41355 - leal
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But they don't?
User avatar #41351 to #41348 - marinepenguin
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Well more weight means more tension, but doing 315 for 10 on squats creates more fatigue and tension than 405 for one.
User avatar #41352 to #41351 - the one and only
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I know youre all about the pump, its just leal's opinions always seem to change and was wondering what he prefers now.
User avatar #41353 to #41352 - marinepenguin
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I'm not really all about the pump, I just do higher volume and frequency, and that creates a pump.

But I'm not speaking from opinion in this instance.
User avatar #41356 to #41353 - the one and only
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What i meant by the way was time under tension, i used some poor choices of words, it's like anyone thats new to the gym understands that doing the hesviest and for 10 reps is what gives you gains.
User avatar #41345 to #41344 - marinepenguin
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Maximal strength has more to do with your CNS then it does muscular size. Granted, someone who squats 800 is always going to be big, but they aren't training for muscular hypertrophy most of the time.

If more muscle always equalled more strength bodybuilders in the offseason would consistently be stronger then powerlifters.

There's an example on this board even, I have more overall muscle mass then Studbeefpile, yet he's stronger then me. Because I train more for physique and conditioning while he's a powerlifter.
User avatar #41357 to #41345 - studbeefpile
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Hmm, that's true to an extent but there's a looot of stuff that goes into it. Part of the reason you have more mass than I do (in only a couple areas....I'm pretty sure I've got you beat in the back and legs department...possibly chest because bench lyfe) is because you're taller than I am, - you don't have 17&1/2s or whatever just because you're super jacked, you have 17s because you're a giant already, then you also put work in - I'm not saying this to discredit any of your work, but when you look at most average height guys that have 17-18s, they're pretty damn huge. Typically the dichotomy between strength and hypertrophy becomes much more apparent with advanced athletes squatting 500+ and deadlifting 600+, intermediates such as you and I generally aren't experienced enough to have really made giant leaps in either direction. 90% of my training right now is hypertrophy work, I just throw in training maxes/over-warms, and the occasional day where my main work consists of triples - and even then I do high volume work afterwards. I'm honestly not doing a ton of just strength training right now, the main reason I'm stronger than you because I've just been working longer than you have. and I have genetics on my side with the bench - although you have no excuse not to be smashing my deadlift with those gorilla arm-hooks you got mayne.
User avatar #41361 to #41357 - marinepenguin
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But generally my argument is still that stronger does not always equal larger unless there is a vast gap in strength. There's a ton of variables involved.
User avatar #41359 to #41357 - marinepenguin
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I'm willing to bet I have a bigger almost everything in terms of inches, my legs are actually the largest part of my body proportionately. You may have me in the chest just because I'm not a barrel chested person and you seem to be.

And while the height thing is partially true about being bigger framed, I have to spread larger amounts of mass over a larger area, so someone smaller than me with the same amount of mass will look larger. And I don't naturally have a big frame, I'm naturally lanky with a smaller bone structure.

I was putting it more in terms of weight and bf percentage. If we put you at 20% bf at 225 that's at most 180 pounds of lean muscle mass. If you put me at 12% bf at 210, that's over 185 pounds of lean mass.
User avatar #41376 to #41359 - studbeefpile
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The degree to which I out-strength you, not just in 1RMs (which would be more a product of nervous system efficiency), but also in reps (335x23 on DL, 225, 2x10 on pause bench) suggests that I have more muscle mass in those areas, not accounting for height.
User avatar #41379 to #41376 - marinepenguin
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You also have to realize that I don't train those movements as often as you do, movement patterns and technique efficiency is a huge part of moving more weight, I've gone months without training bench, rows, deadlifts, to strengthen my pullups, chinups, dips, RDLs, OHP, rear OHP. I focus on a much higher variety of lifts than you.

My whole point in this whole conversation is that there are far more variables involved in strength then just "more muscle always equals more strength".
User avatar #41381 to #41379 - studbeefpile
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Okay, that's reasonable.

Strength or not tho, my lats stil fuk urs son.
User avatar #41382 to #41381 - marinepenguin
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We actually came to a kinda consensus? Weird.

I close grip benched 135 pounds 100 times several minutes faster then you

Also my legs are under 28 inches my about a half inch, take that as you may.
User avatar #41383 to #41382 - studbeefpile
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Mine were paused tho, m8. u stil fuk me on that tho. I think I could do better with a little training towards that specifically though, I've only just gotten into timed stuff.

And that's actually pretty good, considering my obesity problem you've got me beat. it caus u hav big bones
User avatar #41384 to #41383 - marinepenguin
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I probably wouldn't train a 100 rep CGB for time. Its just a fun thing to do with a group every now and then. I was surprised I did as well as I did, considering I don't CGB ever.

And I can't wait until tech school though, if I don't have a ton of time to lift during the week, I'll be doing a ton of low rep/strength work on the main lifts. Then some full body hypertrophy work on the weekends. If that all works out anyways. I think 4 months of powerlifting style training would do me some good in terms of strength and packing on some overall mass.
User avatar #41385 to #41384 - studbeefpile
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I wouldn't train for it specifically, I just mean getting more efficient with timed training in general.

And it definitely would, dude. Getting stronger and more efficient makes for better hypertrophy potential. Me being 'strength efficient' enough to bench 225x10 also allows for more muscle damage with more weight. That's why all natural athletes should incorporate strength training.
User avatar #41386 to #41385 - marinepenguin
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Gotcha, gotta increase that workout density.

And sure, obviously I've still been getting stronger in the higher rep ranges. It's just that the way I tend to perform my reps and set up my program is more ideal for size and hypertrophy instead of overall strength. Still excited though, I'll have internet and whatnot while I'm down in Texas so you'll get to see how I'm doing down there. It'll be fun.
User avatar #41387 to #41386 - studbeefpile
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Merry Christmas, bud.
User avatar #41388 to #41387 - marinepenguin
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Mury Crimmus
User avatar #41373 to #41359 - studbeefpile
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Yes of course you measure larger, you're a larger human being than I am, that's what I was saying. Your arms don't look like 18s outside of the context of you being really tall, they just don't. I was absolutely shocked when you told me they were 17s or whatever they were at the time, because you don't look it. You're a big dude, but you've only been lifting a couple years. Once again, not taking anything away from you at all, you've obviously put in a ton of hard work, however most guys workout for 5+ years at least before getting 18s. How many inches your legs, btw? Just curious. Mine are 28s, but I'm obese.

And yes, I know that, however it seems to be the case that taller people often have the genetic predisposition to be bigger in general anyway. That's why most high level Strongman competitors are 6'5+.

Weight and bf% are fucked because of how many other variables there are like bone size and density. I'd probably actually be ripped and shredded around 170 (I'm really fuckin fat).
User avatar #41378 to #41373 - marinepenguin
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Me being a larger human being to a degree is true, I'm not arguing with that, and I also agree that I have a higher threshold for sheer muscular size. Honestly I'll have to check about my legs, but I get more comments on how big my legs and ass are instead of my arms. Maybe I'll find a way to measure them tonight or tomorrow.

And I knew that when I was making doing the math, but I was doing it more as a guideline then saying "look at how much muscle we both have for sure". I wasn't expecting to go into detail about this honestly so I didn't think it would be a huge deal.
User avatar #41380 to #41378 - marinepenguin
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They're 27.5 inches. So you do have me beat, barely.
User avatar #41340 to #41337 - cptmongtard
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Oh shit is that what happened to you? :^)
User avatar #41342 to #41340 - leal
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Yeah man, every morning I injected 5 ebin memes :^)
That's why I can bench lmao( ͡͡ ° ͜ʖ ͡ °)plate
#41326 - studbeefpile
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Baby's first 225x10 on bench. Felt bretty gud, ended up getting two sets, although I weigh 225 right now, so I'm pretty sure it doesn't count for shit.

This was done after smoking 285 no problem, then missing 300 by the skin of my damn teeth.....
User avatar #41328 to #41326 - marinepenguin
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Getting up there brother.
User avatar #41329 to #41328 - studbeefpile
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Getting thick brother, yessir.
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#41320 - anon id: 6490cfa2
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User avatar #41319 - studbeefpile
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In order to compensate for the inevitable obesity of my extended family's Christmas Eve party, I'm gonna undertake an 8 HOUR ARM WORKOUT.

Actually just a long-ass bench session with a ton of variations. Close enough.
User avatar #41410 to #41319 - cognosceteipsum
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nig you dont even look fat. youre overweight at worst
<3
User avatar #41411 to #41410 - studbeefpile
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I'm pretty damn fat dude. Maybe I've just put up flattering angles in videos or something.
User avatar #41412 to #41411 - cognosceteipsum
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i wanna see you without a shirt and with only underpants on

your self image is either a bigger wreck than nimrud or you have that camera angle thing going for you
#41414 to #41412 - studbeefpile
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This is from about a month ago. I'm about the same weight (225).
User avatar #41415 to #41414 - cognosceteipsum
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I wouldn't say you're obese or anything, you've just got fuchuge legs like me. Maybe a little bit bellyfat but as I understood it you want to keep bulking while losing weight or something?
User avatar #41416 to #41415 - studbeefpile
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what does fuchuge mean?
User avatar #41418 to #41416 - cognosceteipsum
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haha you read that like "fu-shu-ge" didn't you
User avatar #41419 to #41418 - studbeefpile
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something like that....

But yeah, I care about strength so much more than aesthetics. I'm not gonna cut until I bench 300. I missed it by inches yesterday.....soon.....
User avatar #41420 to #41419 - cognosceteipsum
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well then. so the "i'm fat as fucc" is mostly memeing :| you seemed a bit serious about it but its htard to tell overt he internet
User avatar #41422 to #41420 - studbeefpile
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Oh I am. I fucking hate how I look.
User avatar #41423 to #41422 - cognosceteipsum
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>straight hair
>awesome build
that's more than what I have

so do you like have self esteem issues? :|
User avatar #41424 to #41423 - studbeefpile
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My hair is actually suuuuper curly when it's down.

Yeah, I've had self-esteem issues my whole life. Lots of weird shit in my childhood, and especially in middle and high school. It's getting better now, but I don't think I have an awesome build. I'm too damn fat. I might look decent at around 195-200 though.
User avatar #41426 to #41424 - cognosceteipsum
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breh honestly if i were gay i'd date you.

oh. you got my curiosity now because i also got a lot of weird shit happening through my childhood and especially through high school. I'm 220 ish. I'm dropping weight but I Don't exactly focus on powerlifting so yeah
User avatar #41417 to #41416 - cognosceteipsum
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fuck huge
User avatar #41322 to #41319 - marinepenguin
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>Not routinely doing 3 hour workouts with 14 movements like yours truly

Do you truly lift fam?
User avatar #41325 to #41322 - studbeefpile
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>tfw I'm stronger than you in every lift.

Hahah, just bustin your chops breh. I prefer to do higher weekly frequency with shorter individual workouts - plus that's what fits well with my schedule. Although typically my back workouts are almost always 3 hours anyway...
User avatar #41327 to #41325 - marinepenguin
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Tfw I don't know any of my 1rm except for on the deadlift because I don't train for maximal strength.

Was also just fuckin with ya. My workouts are rarely 3 hours unless I'm distracted. But I have the highest volume in my pull days by far. I rarely take days off these days too, so I hit my body parts every 48 hours or so pretty heavily. Dat high volume and high frequency equals lean mass gains bruh.
User avatar #41330 to #41327 - studbeefpile
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"highest volume in my pull days" still not enough. your back is still a pretzel stick, NEEDS TO BE A DORITO.
User avatar #41331 to #41330 - marinepenguin
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Tfw back width is lacking while thickness is on point
Tfw heavy rows for days
Tfw deadlifts aren't changing it
Tfw.....
User avatar #41333 to #41331 - studbeefpile
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ur not deadlifting enough, son.

dat thicknes tho....( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
#41317 - cptmongtard
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This is me on the 18th of Jan
#41318 to #41317 - cptmongtard
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This is me 2 minutes ago. Not amazing progress but I'm still fucking happy. Especially with my strength gains
User avatar #41524 to #41318 - applecopy
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If you're already this dedicated why not stop eating processed food so you'll stop being fat
User avatar #41577 to #41524 - cptmongtard
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They taste great
User avatar #41323 to #41318 - marinepenguin
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Excellent progress for a year.
User avatar #41324 to #41323 - cptmongtard
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Means a lot!