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User avatar #19005 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/15/2014) [-]
Could someone explain powerlifting to me? It seems like you just do 5 sets of the 3 movements in 6-8 reps and try to maximize failure at the last or so by putting maximum weight possible.
User avatar #19013 to #19005 - jokerjack (10/15/2014) [-]
as the guy below me said, powerlifting is the act of competing in the three lifts he mentioned. That 5x5 (and 3x5 is also highly common) with compound barbell movements with increasing weight to force to failure or near is the ideal way for increasing max strength
User avatar #19010 to #19005 - unncommon (10/15/2014) [-]
Power lifting is between Bench, Squat, and Deadlift for competition.
User avatar #19007 to #19005 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/15/2014) [-]
*5x5 seems to be the general apparently
#19004 - studbeefpile (10/14/2014) [-]
Dat Powerlifter forearm to bicep ratio.

Curls? Not even once.

Also, dat natty love handle action. #100%BF
#19030 to #19004 - marinepenguin (10/15/2014) [-]

Unflattering pose is unflattering
User avatar #19031 to #19030 - marinepenguin (10/15/2014) [-]
My form is terrible. Elbow is too far tucked down, wrist isn't parallel with my elbow, phone isn't covering the right parts of my face. Just despicable.
User avatar #19038 to #19031 - studbeefpile (10/15/2014) [-]
Don't worry brah, we're all gonna make it.
User avatar #19008 to #19004 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/15/2014) [-]
Not even once? Shiiiiieeeeeet I must be doing it wrong.
User avatar #19037 to #19008 - studbeefpile (10/15/2014) [-]
Why do you say that?
User avatar #18999 - scoobydoobydo (10/14/2014) [-]
I'm in the gym like 3 times a week now but still doing p/p/l. Feels bad man. All this school work gets in the way.
User avatar #19051 to #18999 - TokenWhiteKid (10/15/2014) [-]
tfw no little loli sister to help me study for my tests
User avatar #18964 - marinepenguin (10/14/2014) [-]
So recently I've been struggling with the deadlift. I got so focused on having good form that I overthought it, made it complicated and I went from having decent form, to shit form. I went from pulling 325 easy for reps to struggling with 275, and even having problems with 225. Well recently I read an article breaking down every single step and movement you should take and how to correct everything, so I figured what the hell and tool the steps in that article piece by pieve. I practiced this form with just 45s to get used to the motion, and realized it was just a few cues away from what I used to do. Went up to 225 and pulled that sucker like it was a feather. I think I can finally get my deadlift back on track and start getting stronger there.
User avatar #18981 to #18964 - studbeefpile (10/14/2014) [-]
The thing to do now is sets of 10-20 with super light weight just to drill in those motor patterns. That way you don't have to concentrate on all that noise when you're lifting heavy.
User avatar #18982 to #18981 - marinepenguin (10/14/2014) [-]
Exactly my plan. I've been working on power cleans and other Olympic lifts recently anyways for back strength, so I wouldn't want to add in another heavy lift. It would kill my current progress.
User avatar #18998 to #18982 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/14/2014) [-]
Is deadlift the only exercise you practice for back?
User avatar #19159 to #18998 - marinepenguin (10/17/2014) [-]
No it was for the stiff legged deadlift
User avatar #19000 to #18998 - marinepenguin (10/14/2014) [-]
No. I have a whole day dedicated to it.
User avatar #19003 to #19000 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/14/2014) [-]
uhmm could you explain? is that like your whole body day and then you have another back day? what other back movements do you have?
User avatar #19015 to #19003 - marinepenguin (10/15/2014) [-]
I have days dedicated to different parts of my body. I go 4 days in a row, then one day off. So I go like this.

Day 1-Back/Bi
Day 2-Chest/Tri
Day 3-Legs
Day 4-Shoulders

Then I repeat that however many times I please. I just do Deadlift on back day, I also do Power cleans, wide grip snatch pulls, pullups, and band pull aparts.
User avatar #19071 to #19015 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/16/2014) [-]
What do you think of me doing ab exercises on the Day Off. Shit like sit-ups, cacoons, ect ? Won't it help burn some more fat in that region
User avatar #19073 to #19071 - marinepenguin (10/16/2014) [-]
Nope. There's no such thing as spot reduction so forget that right now. On your off day limit yourself to some walking or light exercise.
User avatar #19017 to #19015 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/15/2014) [-]
"Power cleans, wide grip snatch pulls, pullups, and band pull aparts." these are all back stuff right? 2lazy2research
User avatar #19018 to #19017 - marinepenguin (10/15/2014) [-]
User avatar #19019 to #19018 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/15/2014) [-]
damn nigga i thought u say u shouldn't have many movements, you be havin 5 for back/bi day...
User avatar #19020 to #19019 - marinepenguin (10/15/2014) [-]
My back day has the most by far, but I keep the reps and sets down. And I do deadlift every other week. My back day goes like this.

2x4 Power Clean
2x4 Wide Grip Snatch Pulls
3x5 Deadlifts (I'll be changing this though)
5x10 Pullups
5x10 Band Pullaparts

So My big movements don't have nearly as much volume or intensity since I'm doing more movements.
User avatar #19324 to #19020 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/18/2014) [-]
snatch pulls and power cleans look complicated
User avatar #19327 to #19324 - marinepenguin (10/18/2014) [-]
I just do them because I love them. Just stick with squats, bench, overhead press and deadlifts. That's all you need to progress right now.
User avatar #19328 to #19327 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/18/2014) [-]
Yeah well today I did back, I looked at those movements and said fuck that. I ended up doing 5x5 deadlifts twice with 5x5 drag curls in between and some pullups after so I'm thinking I should have atleast one more back movement instead of 2 x deadlifts... right?
User avatar #19329 to #19328 - marinepenguin (10/18/2014) [-]
Yeah dont do 5x5 deadlifts twice. Ever again.

If you did Deads, pull ups, and drag curls, that's probably all you need for back day. If you REALLY want another movement, I'd add in dumbbell rows. But nothing else.
User avatar #19756 to #19755 - marinepenguin (10/23/2014) [-]
One armed.
User avatar #19757 to #19756 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/23/2014) [-]
What do you think of all this upper/lower push/pull workout crap I've been hearing on /fit/ for a long time? It seems all so confusing to understand. xULxULx or some shit like that.
User avatar #19758 to #19757 - marinepenguin (10/23/2014) [-]
They're different splits. I used to do a push pull legs split for a while.
User avatar #19759 to #19758 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/23/2014) [-]
Could you explain why you don't do that type of workout?
User avatar #19760 to #19759 - marinepenguin (10/23/2014) [-]
I didn't stop it because it was bad. I ran it for about 5 months before I switched it up. My main issue with it was that I was doing chest and shoulders on the same day, which is a lot of pressing movements. But I also wasn't as good at making a program as I am now. It's a classic program that has worked for years on lots of people.
User avatar #19330 to #19329 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/18/2014) [-]
Thanks. I just feel like those 3 exercises would last me only an hour and I'd like to do atleast another.
User avatar #19331 to #19330 - marinepenguin (10/18/2014) [-]
"Only an hour"

Bro get this in your head now, you don't have to work out 2 or 3 hours a day to get big. You'll notice that guys who are in the gym all day, tend to stay the same year in and year out. If you have a workout that's well programmed and intense you can grow in 30 minutes of work 4 times a week. Just worry about progressing in the main movements and get better at accessory work, and eat enough, then you'l grow.
User avatar #19332 to #19331 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/18/2014) [-]
I think you might have misread me, I meant another movement not another hour. I do however have to say that I usually don't feel tired enough/sore to call a 1 hour workout satisfactory but you know better I guess.
User avatar #19334 to #19332 - marinepenguin (10/18/2014) [-]
No I knew what you meant. I'm just saying that how long a workout is doesn't dictate a good workout or a hard one.

Plus in my experience, you don't have to be sore and tired every single workout to make progress. Make progress in the actual weights you are using. If you can do at least one more rep, or 5 more pounds, every single workout, in a year you will be leagues above where you were the year before. Don't worry about being tired or sore, just worry about being better every single workout and you'll be okay.
User avatar #19326 to #19324 - marinepenguin (10/18/2014) [-]
You don't need to do them.
#19163 to #19020 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/17/2014) [-]
I gotta another question about the protein powder I wanted to make sure. The shit I bought looked kinda like this one and had a big scooper in it, so I'm guessing the serving is based per scoop and not spoon full because that was what I originally thought being the dumbass that I am, so I gotta say this 2lb shit goes by REALLY fast if you take 2 scoops each day for your shake, I'm betting 2-3 weeks and its gone...
And do you prefer to drink during your workout along with before and after (I know drinking before is most important)
User avatar #19164 to #19163 - marinepenguin (10/17/2014) [-]
That's the exact stuff I get. And don't drink it before or during. You take protein after your workout. It even says that in the direction on the tub.
User avatar #19169 to #19166 - marinepenguin (10/17/2014) [-]
That's interesting. I'd never heard that before. If you want to give it a try then sure, go ahead. I've always been taught and I've always done a postworkiut meal.
User avatar #19165 to #19164 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/17/2014) [-]
I heard before was important n shit...
User avatar #19167 to #19165 - marinepenguin (10/17/2014) [-]
I've never heard that. You may be thinking of preworkout. You should take protein shakes and eat right after your workout as part of your postworkout meal.
User avatar #19168 to #19167 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/17/2014) [-]
Ok cool, I'll only take it after then.
User avatar #19022 to #19020 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/15/2014) [-]
I'd really like to know what you do on the other days, especially shoulders. Imma try to steal your shit and see what kinda movements you do. thanks a lot for all the help, i went to walmart today and found whey protein 2lb $25 straw/banana and im gettin that fyi
User avatar #19024 to #19022 - marinepenguin (10/15/2014) [-]
And no problem, I'm glad there's someone wno really is curious about what to do. I know I struggled for a long time with no progress because I didn't have the right information. I'll always be around to answer questions.
User avatar #19025 to #19024 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/15/2014) [-]
Thanks man, I've already noticed some results in the past 2 months in the ab area and posture. Also some increase in mood. Feels gud, I sometimes I wish I didn't have classes and could just lift all the time.
And a final small question, I've been getting into the habit of sometimes buying redbulls to drink before class (30 min after breakfast) to get me from feeling incredibly tired in class because I refuse to sleep more then 7 hours. That shouldn't really have any big effect on lifting/diet right? although of course its not recommended and I wanna drop this new habit
User avatar #19026 to #19025 - marinepenguin (10/15/2014) [-]
Nah, redbulls won't kill your gains or anything. I have a monster or five hour energy every now and then to keep awake for work or school. If you are super worried about it I'd switch to five hour energy, but neither are going to hurt you.
User avatar #19023 to #19022 - marinepenguin (10/15/2014) [-]
Bench 5x5
Triceps Extensions 5x10
Pushups 5x30 (I do these because I am preparing for the military and need to be able to do a lot of them quick and without rest) If I were you I'd do either close grip bench or incline bench for 5x10

Squat 5x5
Hamstring Curls 5x10
Calf raises 5x20

Overhead press 5x5
Lateral raises w/Iso Holds 5x15 or Landmine lateral raises 5x15
Pushups 5x30 (I'd do front raises instead, unless you are really feeling pushups)
User avatar #19527 to #19023 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/20/2014) [-]
is there a big difference between bench and incline bench and/or close grip bench? All target chest so..? today is chest day : ^)
User avatar #19529 to #19527 - marinepenguin (10/20/2014) [-]
Bench is your chest shoulders and triceps

Incline is your upper chest triceps and shoulders

Close grip bench works more on your triceps then your chest.
User avatar #19536 to #19529 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/20/2014) [-]
I did incline bench (my only has 45 degrees), i had to use 10 pounds less so there definitely was a difference.
User avatar #19537 to #19536 - marinepenguin (10/20/2014) [-]
Yeah you'll always be weaker on the incline.
User avatar #19243 to #19023 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/17/2014) [-]
ohh and how long should the hold be between lateral raises? 5 secs?
User avatar #19244 to #19243 - marinepenguin (10/17/2014) [-]
I do 5 reps then hold for 5 seconds, 4 reps then hold for 4, continue down to one.

As for abs, I do sit ups on day that I don't do pushups. But that's part of my training for the military. You can throw in leg raises, hanging leg raises or some kind of an movement every workout if you like. 5 sets of 15 is plenty.
User avatar #19259 to #19244 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/17/2014) [-]
Finished my shoulder workout, I gotta say its well put together. I only feel shoulder soreness and some on my upper arm. Doing lateral raises w/ hold makes me feel like a bitch because of how low weight can effect you.
User avatar #19261 to #19259 - marinepenguin (10/17/2014) [-]
I only use 15s right now. And my first time doing them I could barely use my shoulders the rest of the day. You'll get used to it.
User avatar #19241 to #19023 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/17/2014) [-]
On shoulder today, just noticed you don't have a day or column for abs, should I put that somewhere for myself... maybe? I know you work your abs while doing other movements but still maybe I can include exercises specifically for abs too? Like with barbells or something?
User avatar #19074 to #19023 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/16/2014) [-]
what kinda tricep extensions do you do? Last time I did it I was doing the Lying Dumbbell Tricep Extension www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/lying-dumbbell-tricep-extension
User avatar #19076 to #19074 - marinepenguin (10/16/2014) [-]
There are lots of variations. Skullcrushers, one arm extensions, regular extensions, etc. I'd either stick with regular extensions or skullcrushers for now.
User avatar #19146 to #19076 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/16/2014) [-]
so today is leg day for me, are you using a machine for hamstring curls (i do not have one) or are you doing it with your legs, cuz if so thats pretty weird and looks hard but i can try.

And is calf raises really gonna help? Should I hold weights or something?
User avatar #19148 to #19146 - marinepenguin (10/16/2014) [-]
Calves are a weird muscle, they don't respond to training like other muscles do. They respond better to a lot of repetition and volume, and don't respond as well to a bunch of weight.
User avatar #19153 to #19148 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/17/2014) [-]
So I just had my leg workout. I couldn't do the hamstring curls because I don't got that shit on my reclinable bench (twas a cheap one) so I ended up trying Stiff-Legged Barbell Deadlifts, I really didn't feel much soreness on my hamstrings and felt more on my back even though I tried to do it as perfectly as possible. You have any ideas on what kinda hamstring movement I can replace Hamstring Curls/this stupid shit with?

Also squats kinda push on the neck and below, anything to combat that?
User avatar #19155 to #19153 - marinepenguin (10/17/2014) [-]
Try good mornings, those work your lower back too, bu it also works your hamstrings. And the bar sshouldn't be on your neck during squats, it should be on your traps. The squat shouldn't be painful to hold.
User avatar #19158 to #19155 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/17/2014) [-]
"Try to keep your back straight, and knees slightly bent. Also try to use the force from you hips and butt to pull the weight up instead of your back."

The first sentence^, your referring to squats right?
User avatar #19156 to #19155 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/17/2014) [-]
Ohh ok thanks, I should re-examine how to do them.
User avatar #19157 to #19156 - marinepenguin (10/17/2014) [-]
Try to keep your back straight, and knees slightly bent. Also try to use the force from you hips and butt to pull the weight up instead of your back. The stuff legged deadlift is a simple movement, but if you aren't in tune with your body and muscles it's more difficult.
User avatar #19147 to #19146 - marinepenguin (10/16/2014) [-]
I don't have a machine, but I have a bench that had a pivot on it that I can do that stuff on.

And calf raises will help. Just start off with your body weight. Do 5 sets of 20, and even that should hurt. 5 sets of 20 with strict form and a slow tempo hurts my calves still.
User avatar #18991 to #18982 - TokenWhiteKid (10/14/2014) [-]
something that helped me with deadlift when I plateaued was that I realized I wasn't using hip drive like in my squat

#18966 to #18964 - xxxsonic fanxxx (10/14/2014) [-]
Yeah i know that experience. Here's what I've learned about deadlifting since then (pretty much all you gotta know):
1. Knees behind toes
2. Push down with your legs to bring up the weight up (seems simple enough but some people neglect it)
3. Lift with your ass
4. Keep a flat back (it hurts me when I see someone lift without it, don't worry about your head too much unless you're at a weight where you can think about it)
5. Hinge to the waist
6. Lock it
7. Drop weight (upward explosives = less weight gain but higher lifts for lower weight)/bring the weight down easily (more strength gains = you gain more weight)
Bonus: White knuckle the bar for forearm gains
Bonus: For lighter weight don't invert one hand (one palm forward one back) until you can't lift the weight without it. I usually hit two plates for like a warm up with palms in, helps balance strength, once you're inverting palms then you'll be gaining more back/ass/hammy strength and less forearm
User avatar #18993 to #18966 - TokenWhiteKid (10/14/2014) [-]
I hate to see people not flatten their back (bending the upper back is ok though) and not locking out

It's so important to squeeze your butt to lock out that weight
User avatar #18968 to #18966 - marinepenguin (10/14/2014) [-]
Those were a lot of the cues I already knew just worded differently. But this article really went in depth about everything and didn't leave any kind of room for error. I'll find it here in a sec.
User avatar #18967 to #18966 - unncommon (10/14/2014) [-]
Why do I keep getting logged out...
#18961 - europe (10/14/2014) [-]
>person asks if I use steroids or something
User avatar #18987 to #18961 - TokenWhiteKid (10/14/2014) [-]
>do squat of 225
>black people mirin' for some reason though it's babby weight
>finish sets
>black guy puts on 225, a pussy pad, and tries to squat what I did
>can't even go half way
>leaves the gym
User avatar #19014 to #18987 - oceanfrank (10/15/2014) [-]
I squat 315's normally with a "pussy pad" fuck ya'll niggas judging me
User avatar #19045 to #19014 - TokenWhiteKid (10/15/2014) [-]
what's wrong with you?
User avatar #19102 to #19045 - oceanfrank (10/16/2014) [-]
I just hate uncomfortability
User avatar #18997 to #18987 - marinepenguin (10/14/2014) [-]
I haven't used any kind of padding on my squats since high school, when they padded the bars themselves to "prevent injury". Don't know why anyone needs it.
User avatar #19001 to #18997 - TokenWhiteKid (10/14/2014) [-]
nobody needs it

the only reason anyone would "need it" is because they don't know how to properly place high-bar or low-bar on their back
User avatar #19002 to #19001 - marinepenguin (10/14/2014) [-]
Exactly my point. " But it hurts sometimes" man up.
#18969 to #18961 - unncommon (10/14/2014) [-]
>someone hits my warm up thinking that they're good until I throw 60 more pounds on
#18958 - TokenWhiteKid (10/14/2014) [-]
>mfw I see someone using machines at the gym that isn't old or handicapped

User avatar #18971 to #18958 - unncommon (10/14/2014) [-]
>someone isolating period that isn't I'm the 850 club at least
#18992 to #18971 - TokenWhiteKid (10/14/2014) [-]
>mfw I go to the gym and I see people working out
User avatar #18950 - studbeefpile (10/14/2014) [-]
Squat update.

Just hit 185 for 21 pause reps, followed by 3x3 pre-exhausted at 225 (also paused). Gonna go from 185 up to 205, and work back up to 20 reps (probably gonna be at about 16 right now)

Now squatting twice a week, one heavy day, one volume day. All kindzzzzz of gainzzzzz.
#18960 to #18950 - xxxsonic fanxxx (10/14/2014) [-]
So you basically did cardio
User avatar #18956 to #18950 - TokenWhiteKid (10/14/2014) [-]
also, are you going below parallel or just half squatting?
User avatar #18954 to #18950 - TokenWhiteKid (10/14/2014) [-]
why would you ever want to squat over 15 times?

Why would you ever want to squat over 5 times per set when you don't even lift 3 plate?
User avatar #18972 to #18954 - unncommon (10/14/2014) [-]
Breathing squats get your strength up pretty good, I'm hitting them now.
User avatar #18974 to #18972 - unncommon (10/14/2014) [-]
Also during breathing/pause squats you add 5 - 10lbs every workout, that's where the strength goes. Bringing your 5rm to your 20rm in 6 weeks
User avatar #18963 to #18954 - studbeefpile (10/14/2014) [-]
Below Parallel. I'm a powerlifter.

High reps build hella good strength dude. It's also rehab in a way. I injured my leg at the beginning of this past summer, and couldn't squat for 2 months. When I started back I was hitting 135 for 16, and of course I've made some progress from there.

Also, I can comfortably squat 315.

There's this dumb ass outdated idea that higher reps don't build strength. Why don't you go tell that to George Leeman, who does sets of 12-20 on deadlift, and pulls over 900lbs?

Low reps build strength, it's true. Not denying that. But so do high reps.
User avatar #18965 to #18963 - marinepenguin (10/14/2014) [-]
High reps don't usually build strength as well as low reps. The only exception to that is squatting. Squats seem to thrive no matter what you do with them. Squatting heavy for singles, squatting moderate for 10 reps, or doing the 50 rep challenge. Squats are great.
User avatar #18973 to #18965 - studbeefpile (10/14/2014) [-]
I put 40lbs on my deadlift in just a couple months doing high rep training.

I used to do a lot of singles with squat, and never got anywhere with it, but as soon as I started upping the volume per set, it began to sky rocket, with no sign of slowing down.

Like I said, the idea that high reps don't build strength is foolish and outdated. I was actually able to work with George Leeman over a few months with online coaching, and the set volume was crazy high. There wasn't a single set of anything under 10 reps, and guess what? I made sickening gains off of it. Put 20lbs on my bench, 40 on my deadlift, and you already know about my squat.

You're a smart dude, penguin, it'd be a good idea to give this a shot, and add to your knowledge of lifting.
User avatar #18975 to #18973 - marinepenguin (10/14/2014) [-]
Oh I wasn't trying to say that high rep training doesn't have it's place. From what I've seen and read, the best kind of training programs are ones that balance cycles of high rep and low rep training.

But I'll admit that I don't have an opinion on it beyond what I've read. And I've read "Deadlift for lot of reps for the best results" and I've also heard "never deadlift for high reps, you'll ivertrain very quickly". And both have come from sources that I have found very valid and trustworthy. So it's something that I want to check out and see how I respond to it personally. I wouldn't just write it off like that.

I'll definitely be trying a high volume and high rep based routine whenever I get around to switching up my schedule again. So far I've been more then happy with the tried and true 5x5.
User avatar #18976 to #18975 - studbeefpile (10/14/2014) [-]
Yeah, definitely don't change anything if you're still making gainz. No need to fix what isn't broken. Personally I stopped making progress with low volume at about a 245 bench and 405 deadlift, so I had to start doing something different.
User avatar #18977 to #18976 - marinepenguin (10/14/2014) [-]
Well I'm reaching that point around now. At least in bench, I'm just getting my deadlift started again. Guess we'll see how things go.
#18939 - zekit (10/14/2014) [-]
i'm 5'11" and weigh about 190 with my max bench at 205 squat at 310 dead lift at 350 is that decent?
User avatar #19011 to #18939 - jokerjack (10/15/2014) [-]
That's not bad. But don't use other people as your ruler. There will always be a bigger and badder dude who is lighter than you to get you down. Use your past self and see yourself getting stronger as your improvement and worth in a gym
User avatar #18947 to #18939 - studbeefpile (10/14/2014) [-]
To be generally strong for you body weight, I always say you should be benching your body weight, deadlifting double, and squatting somewhere in between. So you're pretty much there. Strong enough for any day to day activities for sure.
User avatar #18941 to #18939 - marinepenguin (10/14/2014) [-]
That's not too bad at all. Just keep improving.
User avatar #18915 - serhiy (10/13/2014) [-]
why does protein powder taste like shit? is there any way of improving the taste?
User avatar #19659 to #18915 - jayfizzle (10/22/2014) [-]
dont buy protein powder. waste of money. cottage cheese has 14g of protein per half cup and costs way less, and its wholesome.
#18952 to #18915 - KungFuZerO (10/14/2014) [-]
my chocolate/banana shakes taste amazing with cinnamon or refrigerated coffee
User avatar #18948 to #18915 - studbeefpile (10/14/2014) [-]
Don't buy protein powder that tastes like shit. There's plenty of good protein out there.

Also, mix it with milk.

Also, also, it's never going to taste super amazing or anything, it's a protein shake, not a milk shake.
User avatar #18943 to #18915 - slantedvanity (10/14/2014) [-]
If your a coffee drinker you might like this recipe

-1 and a half cup of milk
-1 tbs of coca or hot chocolate powder
-1 Frozen banana
-1 tbs of fine coffee grind
-1-2 scoops of whey powder
-A few cubes of ice


Make sure you grind coffee beans into fine powder otherwise the texture just seems gross.

1. Combine milk, coffee grind, coca powder and ice and then blend
2. Add whey protein powder into shake then mix

Drink and enjoy. Hope it helps.
User avatar #18940 to #18915 - jtastic (10/14/2014) [-]
It all matters on the brand of Whey protein you get. I would seriously recommend Mass IV from GNC. it got 60g.'s of protein per serving, but there's a bit of a learning curve. It tastes like shit and is pretty much undrinkable the first 2-3 times but after that you down that shit like a cum-guzzling hooker.
User avatar #18935 to #18915 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]
I've get to have a protein shake that tasted good. Get used to chugging that shit.
#18930 to #18915 - poopums (10/13/2014) [-]
what brand protein powder do you have?
User avatar #18931 to #18930 - serhiy (10/13/2014) [-]
#18932 to #18931 - poopums (10/13/2014) [-]
whey is the type of protein.. there's soy, egg, beef, whey, ect. what actual BRAND?
#18934 to #18932 - serhiy (10/13/2014) [-]
couldnt find brand so here is a picture of the packet
#18936 to #18934 - poopums (10/13/2014) [-]
the brand is Precision Engineered, it says on the label lol.

I never heard of them. Try Cellucor or MTS Machine Whey. Both have amazing chocolate flavor.
User avatar #18937 to #18936 - serhiy (10/13/2014) [-]
okay ill try that when ive finished with this packet
User avatar #18919 to #18915 - scandinavianpedo ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
i just add a few ice-cubes into the mix to make it to cold to taste.
User avatar #18916 to #18915 - europe (10/13/2014) [-]
Because you're supposed to mix it with water/milk
User avatar #18917 to #18916 - serhiy (10/13/2014) [-]
i already mix it with milk i get the joke but its pretty obvious what i meant
User avatar #18918 to #18917 - europe (10/13/2014) [-]
yeah, of course
But your protein powder doesn't have any taste, then? Usually they're either bought with strawberry or chocolate flavor. I suppose it's possible to add a little syrup if you don't mind the extra sugar
User avatar #18920 to #18918 - serhiy (10/13/2014) [-]
i bought a chocolate flavored one but the taste is too weak without putting wasteful amounts in, so end up tasting like mud water.
User avatar #18922 to #18920 - europe (10/13/2014) [-]
Odd. I've never tried chocolate flavored so I can't tell you my experience with that stuff. I'm not really able to afford the stuff so I can't buy any more. I tried strawberry flavored stuff and it was alright.
#18913 - poopums (10/13/2014) [-]
I was just curious to what you broskis think about this. I was about to get it on with a girl, ate her out, fingered her, ect. and when she gave me head I just couldn't get hard, and I wanted to fuck this girl pretty bad. What could be the cause? I ordered some test boosters and yohimbine extract to help get my soldier to attention quick and easier. Which brings me to my second question, do you guise think test boosters help with gains and/or getting your dick hard?

FYI: Thanks to bodybuilding for a solid 1.5 years this was really my first real sexual encounter with a girl. Zyzz would be proud. I also 21 btw, still a virgin and idgaf.
User avatar #18926 to #18913 - europe (10/13/2014) [-]
Well, were you nervous? You don't have problems getting an erection on other occasions? Google isn't giving me a proper translation for the name but you got these effervescent tablets that are meant to relax you, making less blood go to your muscles and more going to your genitals. It's a preferable alternative over viagra since viagra can give you a headache.
#18927 to #18926 - poopums (10/13/2014) [-]
nah not really. fairly relaxed. just not aroused enough I think
User avatar #18928 to #18927 - europe (10/13/2014) [-]
Have you looked on google?
#18929 to #18928 - poopums (10/13/2014) [-]
about test boosters I have
User avatar #18923 to #18913 - jokerjack (10/13/2014) [-]
Was your first time as you mentioned, and you were just too nervous for your body to respond properly. Stay away from test boosters until mid 30s at least. You start them now, you're on them for life with diminishing returns each year. and by the time you hit your 30s not even they will help you
#18925 to #18923 - poopums (10/13/2014) [-]
it was my second time and the first time the same thing happened.
User avatar #18909 - fistofpain (10/13/2014) [-]
Ok funnyjunk here is my lifting question, About a month ago I decided when I went to college I wanted to change my life and not be fat and out of shape. I started working out more and eating healthier for lunch and dinner I only eat salads. For breakfast I try to have an omlet with bacon, ham and cheese. My salads have no dressing just leafs, kale, carrots, a table of sunflower seeds, chicken or eggs and sometimes broccoli. I eat big salads however I never seem full. Recently I have also cut down on bingging on pop (4 bottles to 6 cans a day) to one or two pops a day. I don't know if it's from the stress of school, my dog being put down or finding out in a year my grandpa will die but I feel really unfocused lately and I find it hard to workout in the gym. I really want to be healthly but when I run or lift I always feel unmotivated. What are some good ways to gain my focus back when I lift and what can I do to stay eating healthy and avoid oversnacking.
#18945 to #18909 - eatsleepswim (10/14/2014) [-]
What helps is to have a very clear cut schedule. You've just started college so in regards to your classes that will give you some structure day to day, and will help you develop a good eating schedule. When it's something you do every day (or every other day or some other combination of days) it will actually take less motivation because it just kind of feels like part of your day. Another thing that can be big with motivation believe it or not is music. It's good to find the right genre of music that keeps you pumped up while you work out. A lot of people like to listen to rap and hip/hop, I personally prefer to listen to some good ole rock. It's honestly very surprising how much better you workout when you find the right mix of music. In regards to your eating habits, I would try to eat a little more than just a salad for lunch and dinner. Try to add a lean meat in with your lunch (grilled chicken or turkey sandwich) and with dinner try and have some kind of carb like pasta. Also, snacking isn't necessarily a bad thing, as long as it's timed right and the right kind of food. Definitely go for some fruit (apples and grapes are my favorite) and maybe some crackers. Also, working out can be a great stress releaser. Hitting even the smallest PR can do wonders for your mood. That's about all I got, send me a message if you have any questions!
Also why the fuck are you taking selfies with an ipad
#18946 to #18945 - eatsleepswim (10/14/2014) [-]
OH and this goes without saying but I'll say it anyway, DO NOT lift until you have learned perfect form, because that's injuries happen. There's a lot of good stuff on Youtube, so definitely check it out
User avatar #18951 to #18946 - fistofpain (10/14/2014) [-]
I was at work and my front camera was broken on phone! iPad selfies for days! Haha
#18910 to #18909 - fistofpain (10/13/2014) [-]
This is me, I weigh about 238 and I am 6'1" my goal is to drop to 210 or lower
User avatar #18911 to #18910 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]
Right now you are just in the process of making it a habit and a change in your lifestyle. This takes some time, and you just have to push through it. Eventually if you keep with it you'll see progress and then you won't want to stop. Just remember why you started and try to keep motivated.
#18903 - europe (10/13/2014) [-]
My amount of bodyhair has increased a lot since I started liftan. Is this merely coincidence or does powerlifting actually increase your testosterone production?
User avatar #18906 to #18903 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]
Lifting does increase testosterone production. But hair growth isn't hugely effected by that. It's mostly genetic. I'd put it as a combination of you getting older and lifting.
User avatar #18902 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]

Now I don't condone steroid use, but I hate people like this.
User avatar #18907 to #18902 - lolpandas (10/13/2014) [-]
100% agree. I absolutely hate when someone disregards all the hard work someone puts in because they think they're on steroids when they don't even know how steroids works (and there are dozens out there that all do different things).
User avatar #18908 to #18907 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]
It's because of all the bad reputation that it's gotten over the past few decades. Most people assume that one injection of any steroid will make you ripped and 6% body fat. Then when you try to tell them otherwise they act like you're the dumb one.
User avatar #18912 to #18908 - lolpandas (10/13/2014) [-]
Lol, if only it were that easy
User avatar #18893 - jokerjack (10/13/2014) [-]
Forgot about this when FJ went down. Gonna be back and helping out with advice. Unfortunately I know quite a bit due to getting fat, losing a bunch of weight, losing too much in desire of making lighter weight classes, putting muscle back on leanly, going through some depression and apparently eating is my outlet like a recently single chick and blowing back up in weight. Down 15 pounds again, and now trying to lose weight post-shoulder surgery which is extremely angering because I can't lift to maintain the muscle I have. During that bad time I gained weight way too fast and put on a lot of fat, but at least I recovered and passed my previous PRs from when I was over 200.
User avatar #18904 to #18893 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]
Over 200 and lean? Or over 200 and chubby or fat?

And I'm better with getting out of skeleton mode. Never been fat or chubby, so my experience is in what I've read. I started at 145 and I'm around 196 now a little over a year later. I've managed to stay lean too.
User avatar #18921 to #18904 - jokerjack (10/13/2014) [-]
I was over 200, with a decent amount of muscle under the fat. but 5'7" and peaked at 220 so it wasn't pretty. Had a belly. Then dropped to 155 and was very mean, but a little low as the last 5 were about all muscle loss. Then I was around 152 for a while in my stupid quest for a full on six pack. Then ballooned up to 190ish, and now back to 180 with a goal of 165 were I'd be fit again.

For muscle comparativeness, at 220 pounds I think my bench max was like 275, then that dropped to about 235 (and took a serious hit those last 5 pounds of weight dropped) then got back up to 305 during that unintentional bulk.Now I'm stuck in limbo because of recovering from surgery

My upper body is stronger than my lower due to breaking my leg twice in hockey and continuing to lift upper while on crutches in the weight room throughout. During my max just before srugery it was 305 bench, 455 dead, 385 squat (I did 405 when I was 200+ pounds, before the second break) and 190 Strict Press. So over 200 big all around, never felt soft or out of shape but didn't like what I saw in the mirror.

Haha whoops. Hey there penguin. We've had this chat before lol
User avatar #18933 to #18921 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]
Oh psh I've heard this story before. I was wondering why this all seemed so familiar halfway through haha. Glad to see you back.
#18859 - uncledick (10/13/2014) [-]
Hey Funnyjunk,

In middle school and early high school, I gained a shit ton of weight in a short period of time from medicine from when I was depressed. I gained 70 pounds or so in a few months. Anyways, I was around 5'8 and 200 pounds, I fucking hated my life.

I turned that shit around last summer and I lost around 45-50 pounds in 2 months. I am now 5'11 and 155 pounds. I still have quite a bit of loose skin but I do feel different. I'm still hoping to lose more weight and bulk up. I've been hitting the gym with a good friend of mine 3 times a week for an hour but have been slacking off lately.

I've still been eating healthier but cheat on some days, but that isn't a big deal. I ride my bike often but I need a new tube. What are some ways to help bulk up?

Thing is, I feel like I can never accomplish at where I want to get. When I sit down with a shit, it's fucking gross. I still think I'm fat and when I flex, I do notice some muscle tightening but can't see it all that much. I still really self-conscious with my body, including the stretch marks. I feel as if the working out doesn't do anything. I need more motivation. (I am 17)

Sorry about the shitty web camera, I look better than I have in a long time but I still don't like the way I look. Please don't put anything to put me down.
User avatar #18944 to #18859 - slantedvanity (10/14/2014) [-]
Most of the time people quit after 6 weeks of lifting weights/working out. For most people it can take up to 6 months to make it look like you have just started working out. What helps a lot is to keep a workout log and measure. I have been watching this guys videos and it has helped me a lot. I was 260 pounds now I'm down to 190. I hope it helps.

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#18949 to #18944 - studbeefpile (10/14/2014) [-]
Cheff Buff! Fuck yeah.
User avatar #18897 to #18859 - jokerjack (10/13/2014) [-]
Hey, good for you for getting things back under control before you hit your 20s as obese. Gets way difficult then to turn your lifestyle around. Congrats on getting to here.

You're still young, judging by the pic there's really nothing that can't be fixed by some time in a weight room. You mentioned you used to but are slacking off. What was your program then?

What you need is compound barbell lifts. Squat, Bench, Deadlift, Press, Barbell rows, and pull-ups are the Big Six to base things around. Google Starting Strength, start light, and work up the linear progression. Seeing you add weight to the bar every workout can be huge for motivation. Just don't eat his assanine recomendations for food to start. Go until you stall out, and then start eating more once you do that. You should be at a body composition you're happy with at that point
User avatar #18882 to #18859 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]
You are what's called skinnyfat. You don't weigh a lot, but you have a large amount of fat and little muscle. The best way to fix this is to either work out to lose the weight then gain some muscle afterwards (you'll be going skeleton mode at one point though) or you can bulk up now and lose weight later (you'll look a bit worse at first with the extra muscle making you look larger, but cutting down will be a lot easier).
User avatar #18862 to #18859 - oborawatabinost (10/13/2014) [-]
Hey, I've been there too. I was never that overweight, but I was overweight when I was about 16ish. since then (19 now) I've settled at about 30-40 lbs less. A couple people have told me I'm underweight now, but I think they're full of shit. But anyway, unfortunately I don't know much about bulking up (I prefer to stay lean & light), but I do know what it's like never being good enough. Liking yourself can be hard.
User avatar #18866 to #18862 - uncledick (10/13/2014) [-]
How tall are you and what is your weight?
Some people tell me that I am underweight and obviously, I am not.
Opinion on the pictures?
Also, how did you lose your weight?
User avatar #18867 to #18866 - oborawatabinost (10/13/2014) [-]
I'm 6 ft, and 162 was my lowest. Not sure where I am now.

And you're not really fat anymore. If you keep working out, you'll get more defined. I'm not sure how long you've been working out, but I had a summer with plenty of free time and I spent it working out for at least a couple hours a day total, and it helped me a lot with that.

Basically, I lost my weight due to depression. I hardly ate anything, and I dropped a lot of weight. That was about 9 months ago, and since then I've kept it off, and working out has gotten me in much better shape.
User avatar #18870 to #18867 - uncledick (10/13/2014) [-]
I don't really think that's underweight for your height, that just about the ideal weight.
I've been working out about 3 times a week for an hour with a friend of mine. I mainly do my back, chest and arms. I work the least on my legs because I have a lot of muscle in my legs but I also do crunches.

I don't think I have that much muscle in my arms. I wasn't able to do a single push-up for a while but ended up doing 15 a few weeks ago, that was nice. I'm still working on trying to do a pull-up, I still haven't done that but I've gotten close to it.

I've only been working out for about a month now, not that long but I need to get back on track with it. I lost a lot of weight with my depression but the doctors gave me a shit ton of pills that made me swell like a balloon and caused me to gain so much weight and be at risk of diabetes, which I am not anymore.

Glad that you have made so much progress, keep on working on that. Seeing results is such an amazing feeling.
User avatar #18871 to #18870 - oborawatabinost (10/13/2014) [-]
I work out every day, including running. I haven't been able to get to a gym (or get motivation), so lately it consists of lots of push-ups (about 80-100 per day), sit-ups and squats, plus martial arts & boxing practicing. My advice is to find some motivation, and more importantly inspiration to keep at it. It can be hard for me, since I usually don't care much about physical stuff, but my inspiration is Bruce Lee. I've definitely noticed some results, which is cool, but most of my friends are total liftbros so they still like to belittle me every once in a while.
User avatar #18872 to #18871 - uncledick (10/13/2014) [-]
Well, you're working your ass off from what I can tell.
I don't even pay for the gym. I drive over to an apartment complex that my friend just recently moved out of. My friend and I go into the office and on the 2nd floor, there is a small gym with just about everything you need. I think the people who work on the first level think we live there. Also, there is a swimming pool.

Martial arts/boxing seems pretty fun. Would you know any tips to give to me/how to start/if I should do it/if my body type would be ideal for the sport/if it's fun.
User avatar #18873 to #18872 - oborawatabinost (10/13/2014) [-]
Well, for martial arts (and I guess fighting in general, depending on your preferences), you don't want to bulk up. A guy with giant, bodybuilder-like muscles won't be able to move very well. And that's what Bruce Lee says fighting is, "the art of movement". I learned Tae-Kwon-Do when I was younger, and it stuck, but I've moved more toward using no style in particular, because (more Bruce Lee dogma) if one has no style, then they can adapt to any fighter. Anyways if you're interested, it depends on how much prior experience you have. I'm not sure where to start.
User avatar #18874 to #18873 - uncledick (10/13/2014) [-]
Well, fighting like that sounds really fun. I don't know how good at it I would be. I've never had any fighting experience in the past.
User avatar #18892 to #18874 - oborawatabinost (10/13/2014) [-]
I see. Well, I started out learning Tae-Kwon-Do, so perhaps you can start there (it's one of the most popular martial arts, if not the most), and then branch out more once you got some experience. I know Tae-Kwon-Do, some Wing Chun kung fu, and some boxing. So I guess you could try and shoot for any of those, or any combination, etc.
User avatar #18855 - nefarian (10/13/2014) [-]
I'm usually planking until my stomach really starts to hurt, but a few minutes after stopping I don't feel sore or anything like I do with every other bodypart exercise. Am I still suppose to take a break from it tomorrow or should I try to keep it up for longer next time?
#18852 - kibbleking (10/13/2014) [-]
Been losing weight, already lost fifteen pounds this week.
MFW man tits don't jiggle anymore
User avatar #18863 to #18852 - oborawatabinost (10/13/2014) [-]
15 in a week? How the hell did you do that? The best I've don't is 6.5-7 in a week.

Unless it's in an unhealthy way. Either way, I'm all ears.
User avatar #18994 to #18863 - TokenWhiteKid (10/14/2014) [-]
he probably just lost water weight

A lot of shitty food is full of sodium which will dehydrate you and make your body retain more water as a safety precaution against dehydration.
User avatar #18878 to #18863 - kibbleking (10/13/2014) [-]
I just stopped moving. Not even eating. I'm sitting here stagnant at my computer screen.
User avatar #18891 to #18878 - oborawatabinost (10/13/2014) [-]
Ah, I see. That doesn't sound too healthy. But I can't really do that anyway, having to sit in one place and do one thing for so long.
User avatar #18853 to #18852 - nefarian (10/13/2014) [-]
Fifteen pounds in one week? Jesus swoley Christ
#18824 - lordketchup (10/12/2014) [-]
Is there actually any functionality with training your biceps?
Is there actually any functionality with training your biceps?
User avatar #18864 to #18824 - oborawatabinost (10/13/2014) [-]
If you mean what are biceps used for, then...

Biceps are used for pulling and lifting shit. And in boxing, for example, they're used for hooks and uppercuts.

They're not just for flexing to get women's attention.
User avatar #18846 to #18824 - nefarian (10/12/2014) [-]
Easier to endure a frontal sucker-punch
User avatar #18845 to #18824 - thisismyhandle (10/12/2014) [-]
Bicep strength
User avatar #18830 to #18824 - marinepenguin (10/12/2014) [-]
God I hate that term. There is no such thing as functional training or functional muscle. It's all just movements that are made harder by resistance. Whether that resistance is your own body, iron weights, or your girlfriend during sex.

You can use to to mainly supplement other big movements like deadlifts, pullups, or snatch pulls. Or you can may just want to have a more ballanced physique.
User avatar #18858 to #18830 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/13/2014) [-]
What do you think of having specific exercises for biceps, like drag curls. I put it in my Back day (you told me before back and bicep kinda go together), same for chest/tricep day.
User avatar #18861 to #18858 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]
Having a bicep movement or two during back and bicep day is fine.
User avatar #18819 - unncommon (10/12/2014) [-]
What's new /fitness/?
User avatar #18877 to #18819 - envinite ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
Tfw haven't lifting for a week and last week I can't even finish 1/2 of my entire exercise because I don't feel well halfway.

I feel weak.
User avatar #18885 to #18877 - unncommon (10/13/2014) [-]
Stick to it bro, try to struggle on. The weights are playing mind games with you.
And you might want to do a circuit then if you can't hit all the exercises so you aren't neglecting any movements even if you hit the fist ones a set or so less.
User avatar #18898 to #18885 - envinite ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
Thanks man. It's not because the weight playing tricks on me, I just don't get enough rest and foods cuz it's a really busy week. Will getting swole again this week.
User avatar #18865 to #18819 - oborawatabinost (10/13/2014) [-]
Managed to get out and run and work out today, but starting to lose motivation. Personal problems tend to take the wind outta me.
User avatar #18886 to #18865 - unncommon (10/13/2014) [-]
I know exactly what you're saying bro. But don't let them you slow you down, try to use exercise as a temporary break from the outside world and have complete and total focus on yourself. Also good job on the run bud, that's the hardest for me to get motivated to.
User avatar #18890 to #18886 - oborawatabinost (10/13/2014) [-]
Yeah, it's tough. I've gotten better, now. It comes in spurts.
#18847 to #18819 - KungFuZerO (10/12/2014) [-]
Switched back to my hypertrophy routine.
Feels good, bro
User avatar #18888 to #18847 - unncommon (10/13/2014) [-]
Sweet, what ever makes you happiest bro.
May the gains be with you
User avatar #18838 to #18819 - marinepenguin (10/12/2014) [-]
Leg day today, that's all I'm willing to talk about right now. I'm still recovering.
#18883 to #18838 - xxxsonic fanxxx (10/13/2014) [-]
I'm on leg/chest/tri's today.
Squats, bench, close grip bench, dips (more than likely what my coach is going to rx). My shoulder is in pain though, gonna pop some anti-inflammatories and squat till my hands are numb.
My girlfriend also just started her period and has been biching at me all day to do stuff for her, so also that's.
User avatar #18884 to #18883 - unncommon (10/13/2014) [-]
Forgot to log
User avatar #18887 to #18884 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]
It's my shoulder day today. My legs aren't as sore as I thought they were. And on top of that I had a group of girls say they liked my butt. Everything went better then expected I think.

As for your girlfriend, you'll learn to love it when she gets her period. Better that then pregnant.
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User avatar #18825 to #18819 - lordketchup (10/12/2014) [-]
Started doing Greyskull LP, it's a great routine but so much curls, will probably halve the amount of bicep work
User avatar #18959 to #18825 - TokenWhiteKid (10/14/2014) [-]
that's not Greyskull LP then

You probaby found someone's version of Greyskull and are doing that. Greyskull LP is like SS in basics and you are supposed to add in accessories later on
#18889 to #18825 - unncommon (10/13/2014) [-]
Yeah Biceps are one of the smaller muscles in the human body yet the most worked in the gym. The most direct that I get with Biceps are hammer curls and close grip pull ups. I gotta 45lb x7 hammer curl and can hit around 20 pull ups if I don't hit back just before I do them.
#18821 to #18819 - xxxsonic fanxxx (10/12/2014) [-]
#18826 to #18822 - xxxsonic fanxxx (10/12/2014) [-]
When you're out there, browsing fj, playing videogames..

Someone out there at the same time is working hard. someone is getting smarter. And someone is winning. Just remember that.

You cant climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pocket.
User avatar #18816 - mondominiman (10/12/2014) [-]
How jacked can you get in 5 months? Assuming you start out at nothing and build your way up
#18914 to #18816 - poopums (10/13/2014) [-]
you won't get super fucking yolked. you'll put on some weight, some in muscle but also in fat (depending on how you eat). if you clean bulk (eating a lot of healthy food) for all 5 months you'll put on maybe 10-20 pounds of weight. dirty bulking (eating everything and anything in sight, including women and small children) you'll put on 30-40 pounds of weight, a good amount of it will be fat though. Everyone's a bit different, remember that; some are hard gainers, some put on weight easily.
User avatar #18817 to #18816 - marinepenguin (10/12/2014) [-]
You could gain 20-40 pounds if you did everything right and followed a good plan and ate a lot.
User avatar #18834 to #18817 - mondominiman (10/12/2014) [-]
What about appearance? Would you look slimmer or just puffier?
#18836 to #18834 - marinepenguin (10/12/2014) [-]
This is me with about a 45 pound difference. Started out tall and skinny, so I guess you could use that as a a kind of reference.
User avatar #18835 to #18834 - marinepenguin (10/12/2014) [-]
If you started out as average build, average body fat, you'd look like you work out. You'd look a little built. Not monstrous by any means, but you'd look athletic.
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