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User avatar #16737 - goldenkhrp (08/12/2014) [-]
Hello everyone,
I used to work-out when I was younger. I did this at home by doing push-ups, crunches, and lifting some small dumbbells. Nothing to serious but it kept me in decent shape.

About a year ago, I broke my elbow pretty badly and needed surgery in order to heal. Now I want to train again, but my elbow hinders me with pushups. Does anyone know a trainings exercise that can be done at home that trains the chest muscles?

TL/DR: Does anyone know a fitness exercise that trains the chest muscles without overloading my elbows (and can be done at home)

Thanks : ) English is not my best language, so please don't mind any spelling errors
#16735 - anonymous (08/12/2014) [-]
I've plateaued and i've plateaued hard, but this is just the worst I have ever experienced. Stretch marks, weight gain, inability to lose weight no matter how hard/long I work out, healthy diet, the whole shabang. I'm about 20-25 pounds over weight. My lifestyle isn't superbly active, but I still manage to run two miles a day. I did p90x and gained quite a bit of muscle, but hardly lost any body fat. Now that that's over I ended up looking worse than before so I started doing cardio to help trim down all the excess body fat. Even if I lost 2-3% of my body fat percentage my overall weight was still the same and even then i'd gain it back in 4-8 days. Changing my diet did absolutely nothing and increasing the intensity and length of the workouts did nothing as well. It's practically taken everything I have to just maintain my current weight.
#16795 to #16735 - anonymous (08/13/2014) [-]
What does your diet consist of and be specific. There is also a difference between eating healthy and a healthy weight loss diet. It sounds like you're putting in the work but completely lost on the diet.
User avatar #16736 to #16735 - scoobydoobydo (08/12/2014) [-]
No you didn't gain quite a bit of muscle doing p90x.
User avatar #16733 - drunkengnome (08/12/2014) [-]
I am starting up again with my exercises but I don't wanna go to fitness this time, cause' no that much money. I have one dumbbell and I will start running again.
Do you guys have any suggestions what to exercise with? I'm thinking like filling a sportsbag up with some low-heavy/ heavy loads and do some exercises with that.
#16797 to #16733 - anonymous (08/13/2014) [-]
You can make a heavy bag. All you need are some trash bags, duct tape, and something to fill it with. I made 15lb bags with rubber mulch and add bags as needed. You can do lunges, tosses ,carries, cleans, presses, and squats.
User avatar #16800 to #16797 - drunkengnome (08/13/2014) [-]
Thank you.
User avatar #16732 - nazrix (08/12/2014) [-]
bear with me here... I'm 169 cm and 79 kg. It's been a week and a half since I've started cardio and strength exercises (mainly on my abs and inner thighs). I read the other day that you can't lose fat from a specific part of the body, is that true? I mean, if I do cardio + crunches, won't my waist get smaller?
#16734 to #16732 - minutes ONLINE (08/12/2014) [-]
Of course they will, but not only these parts of your body. You can't lose fat in just one specific part, you lose the %.
#16727 - imcharlie (08/12/2014) [-]
I've been lifting weights every day for the past two weeks now. I'm still a newbie to all this, but is it normal to feel rage towards your exes every time you workout. Because that wasn't my motivation to begin with, but it happens every time.
User avatar #16782 to #16727 - mondominiman (08/13/2014) [-]
I thought that was a baby in the microwave
User avatar #16749 to #16727 - horsehat ONLINE (08/12/2014) [-]
great job, keep up the good work, but dont lift every day, let your muscles relax,
User avatar #16751 to #16749 - imcharlie (08/12/2014) [-]
how often should I workout and rest a week
User avatar #16752 to #16751 - horsehat ONLINE (08/12/2014) [-]
you should have 1-2 rest days
User avatar #16756 to #16752 - imcharlie (08/12/2014) [-]
ok thanks
User avatar #16730 to #16727 - marinepenguin (08/12/2014) [-]
You'll get over it. I first really started working out because my ex dumped me for another guy. Next time she saw me I was 25 pounds heavier and tried to talk to me again, and that was another 15 pounds ago. Now she knows I'm out of her league.

After awhile it will fade and be replaced by the obsession of creating something badass and awesome from the body you have.
User avatar #16731 to #16730 - imcharlie (08/12/2014) [-]
Thanks, man
#16724 - anonymous (08/12/2014) [-]
hey guise
15 years old, 5'10 (still growing) and 280lbs
just worked out for my first time alone yesterday and i plan on doing every day
I ran on the elliptical for 15 minutes, then did situps for 5 minutes, then 10 more minutes on the elliptical.
If I just eat fruit/meat will I lose a good amount of weight and be able to maintain a healthy body?
#16728 to #16724 - anonymous (08/12/2014) [-]
Go for a run as well. It's one of the best ways to lose it.

If you're no good at running, start by doing a couch to 5k thing. Gimmicky, but it worked for me.
#16725 to #16724 - anonymous (08/12/2014) [-]
#16726 to #16725 - anonymous (08/12/2014) [-]
fuck lmfao 270*
#16713 - anonymous (08/11/2014) [-]
I'm hella overweigh 5' 7" ish and around 230 lbs and I was wondering what the best way to lose weight is
User avatar #16714 to #16713 - unncommon (08/11/2014) [-]
Calories in < calories out
#16712 - unncommon (08/11/2014) [-]
Do you guys like push-press or military press better for gaining strength in the deltoids? Honestly I've replaced my push press with military press and I've been progressing pretty fucking fast and I'm more satisfied with the strength in my overhead press.
User avatar #16715 to #16712 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
Military press, push press is an Olympic lift and uses your entire body, although you can use more weight.

Military press uses only the delts and triceps, so it's great.
User avatar #16716 to #16715 - unncommon (08/11/2014) [-]
Yeah, but I know a lot of people who would advocate for the push-press being superior in deltoid deployment due to explosiveness and the emphasis on Type IIB muscle fibers.
User avatar #16717 to #16716 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
I agree with that, which is why I made the point of using more weight. Olympic lifts are great for building up large areas of the body, they're fantastic at that. But if you are talking strictly deltoids, I'll go for the isolation movement over the compound movement. I like doing the push press much more though.
User avatar #16719 to #16717 - unncommon (08/12/2014) [-]
Also, have you heard about bench press being counter productive to strength because of its effect on the shoulder blades? I'm not taking it out of my routine but it's interesting to hear.
User avatar #16722 to #16719 - marinepenguin (08/12/2014) [-]
I've never heard that, no. But I've heard how it's healthier to do weighted pushups because it allows your shoulder blades freedom of movement during the actual movement itself.
User avatar #16718 to #16717 - unncommon (08/12/2014) [-]
I said the deltoids but I'm also talking about the advancement in overhead press. I'm training for strength/functionality and they're both compound lifts, but the push press does use more muscles when compared to the military press. Since I'm training for functionality and not pure strength (a.k.a. explosiveness) I think that the military press is better for me.
User avatar #16723 to #16718 - marinepenguin (08/12/2014) [-]
Oh I see, well Military and Overhead press are very similar, so training for one will help the other.

But I do know that if you are looking for explosiveness then Olympic lifts are the best thing you can do, just because it promotes fast movements throughout every part of your body. I would continue to do push presses, and then supplement it with military presses. But that's just me, if you feel like the presses itself are doing it for ya then by all means go for it.
User avatar #16699 - donnybergerstory (08/11/2014) [-]
Alright, so I started working out about 4 months ago. I am 16, I weighed ~240 when I started. I have worked out EVERY day since, I might have missed a day or so from vacationing, but other than that, I have not missed a day from stupid excuses. Now, I weigh 223 lbs. I have noticed a reduction in belly fat, and an increase in muscle definition. I don't have six pack abs or super cut muscles, but I have seen a difference. So for anyone here who wants to start working out, I wanted to tell you; I used to sit on my ass everyday, I used to eat whatever I wanted. I was a fat piece of shit. I have lost ~20 lbs, I feel great, and my confidence has shot up. The pains of being overweight are way worse than the pain of going to the gym. If you go to the gym, don't make it a chore, make it an activity. Make it something you HAVE to do. That's how it is for me at this point. I can't wait to go back after I've left. I wanted to share this here, because I feel like I needed to. Results are possible if you put your mind, and heart into it.

If you have trouble getting motivated, here's some tips I used.

-Surround yourself with fitness. Subscribe to fitness channels on youtube, subscribe to Men's Health Magazine, or TRAIN Magazine. Go to the gym with friends, and always discuss fitness with them.

-Always think about how many bitches you'll get when your ripped, or think about how easier life will be when you are ripped.

-Watch Pain and Gain. Just do it.

If anyone has any questions, or anything to say, please ask. I am here to motivate and help anyone. I am very far from my goal of 170 lbs, I would love to get there with others. I'd love to get there with THIS community.
User avatar #16729 to #16699 - imcharlie (08/12/2014) [-]
This story motivates me
#16702 to #16699 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
Nice job man.
Nice job man.
User avatar #16720 to #16702 - donnybergerstory (08/12/2014) [-]
Thanks man, I really appreciate it.
User avatar #16681 - bminous (08/11/2014) [-]
Gonna start working out when I head off to college in a few weeks. Focused less on fat loss (6'1", just under 160lbs) and more on building muscle definition. Ran cross country for 7 years so I'll conitnue to do some running for cardio. Suggestions for excercises/routines or sites I can use to get good workouts? (More specifically ab definition excercises, since it seems lots of traditional ab exercises like crunches are shit)
User avatar #16684 to #16681 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
Why do you want to lose fat? Unless you are skinnyfat then 160 is a good weight for 6'1.
User avatar #16685 to #16684 - bminous (08/11/2014) [-]
I don't
User avatar #16686 to #16685 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
Oh nevermind I'm an idiot. I though you said focused on fat loss, not focused LESS on fat loss.

But wanting more muscle definition means having to lose fat. But that doesn't mean anything if you don't have much muscle mass. You'll have to gain muscle mass throughout your body and then diet down if you want to see a lot of definition.
User avatar #16687 to #16686 - bminous (08/11/2014) [-]
Fair enough. I could still use suggestions for exercises/workouts though
User avatar #16690 to #16687 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
If I were you I would go to the gym and focus on big lifts, as a beginner you don't need to worry about doing situps or ab movements at all. Just squat, bench, deadlift, and overhead press and you'll see improvement in every part of your body (even your abs).

Starting strength is a fantastic program for beginners and has gotten a lot of people bigger and stronger fairly quick.
User avatar #16694 to #16690 - bminous (08/11/2014) [-]
Awesome. Anywhere I can read up on this prior? I know I can ask people there who know what they're doing, but I'd rather not go in completely clueless
#16707 to #16700 - bminous (08/11/2014) [-]
I'll make sure to stay hydrated

I'll make sure to stay hydrated
User avatar #16698 to #16694 - scoobydoobydo (08/11/2014) [-]
Google ss beginner program and watch videos on proper form for the main compound lifts. Fuck how much you are lifting just do it with proper form and the weight will increase itself.
User avatar #16677 - crazyolitis (08/11/2014) [-]
What's some good music for hiking/walking/strolling/whatever you want to call it? I love doing it with music, but I want to know some really good music if possible.
User avatar #16667 - badgerbaiting (08/11/2014) [-]
Been on a split for ages, usually doing chest and tris and back and bis. I've recently started doing Chest and bis at the start of the week and back back and tris at the end and found it preferable as I can hit bis harder. I've noticed I can lift than before I made this change. Anyone else had a similar experience?
User avatar #16671 to #16667 - leal (08/11/2014) [-]
leg day bro
User avatar #16672 to #16671 - badgerbaiting (08/11/2014) [-]
You mean Wednesday?

Mon: chest and bis
Teus: Rugby training (Cardio)
Wednesday: Legs
Thursday: Rugby (Cardio)
Friday: Back and tris
Saturday: Shoulders and abs
Sunday: rest.
User avatar #16675 to #16672 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
Right now you are working your triceps 3 days a week.
User avatar #16680 to #16675 - scoobydoobydo (08/11/2014) [-]
I only see it twice?
User avatar #16683 to #16680 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
When you do chest, and shoulders you will work triceps as well. Nearly any pushing movement uses them.
User avatar #16689 to #16683 - scoobydoobydo (08/11/2014) [-]
Chest yes but not shoulders.
User avatar #16691 to #16689 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
Yes shoulders, any pressing movement with the shoulders includes the triceps.
User avatar #16692 to #16691 - scoobydoobydo (08/11/2014) [-]
Do not feel anything but shoulders when doing shoulder movements. Military press, shrugs, raises all isolation in the shoulders.
User avatar #16693 to #16692 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
www.simplyshredded.com/top-5-triceps-training-mistakes-how-to-correct-them.html look at #5.

Triceps are by far the easiest muscle to train. Whether you feel the movement in the triceps or not is irrelevant. I always feel my triceps working in all three of those days.
User avatar #16695 to #16693 - scoobydoobydo (08/11/2014) [-]
It said triceps get some work when locking out in presses. I don't lock out on presses lol.
User avatar #16701 to #16695 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
Doesn't matter. Triceps are still involved in the movement.
User avatar #16704 to #16701 - scoobydoobydo (08/11/2014) [-]
I don't see it and even if they are they are being hit indirectly and only in ohp.
User avatar #16705 to #16704 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
Whatever you say man.

Every single source I have says otherwise to back me up, along with my own personal experience. Every pressing movement includes the triceps to an extent, regardless of being a secondary muscle or not. I had really overtrained triceps, and once I toned it tone to two days a week I saw to real size and strength gains.
User avatar #16706 to #16705 - scoobydoobydo (08/11/2014) [-]
Your source say it activates during the lock. And I only do them twice a week.
User avatar #16708 to #16706 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
Triceps work throughout the movement, they just peak at lockout.

If you go to any kind of fitness forum, big guys who have been working out for years will tell you the same thing.

#16665 - alicorn ONLINE (08/11/2014) [-]
Despite being a few pounds underweight I have a about an inch or so of fat on my stomach, it's enough to make belt buckles really uncomfortable when I sit unless I sort of sag my pants

Basically how do I rid myself of stubborn belly fat, and will I have to worry about saggy skin? Already doing crunches, this shit is murder on your spine so I can't do many at once
User avatar #16676 to #16665 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
You are underweight while remaining fat because you are skinnyfat. You need to gain lean muscle mass before you worry about getting rid of your excess fat.
User avatar #16673 to #16665 - mckinkymcormic (08/11/2014) [-]
User avatar #16666 to #16665 - badgerbaiting (08/11/2014) [-]
Crunches are bollocks. I generally do Russian twists, Plank, Obliques (Farmer's walk, side plank) and use an ab wheel.

As for reducing fat, you just need to sort your diet out and do cardio. You can't spot reduce fat.
#16657 - anonymous (08/11/2014) [-]
Why does brony get a wiki, but fitness doesn't?
#16649 - anonymous (08/11/2014) [-]
After losing 60 pounds I'm starting binge eating again, I've put 5 pounds... My family has been away for about a month so that's one cause. Any tips former binge eaters could give me to help?
User avatar #16653 to #16649 - scoobydoobydo (08/11/2014) [-]
Eat more calorie dense foods, do something to avoid eating out of boredom, don't watch TV while you eat, track your macros, avoid processed and fast food.
#16644 - ashinydoornob (08/11/2014) [-]
Hey all!   
So this is gonna be a long one but, here it goes.   
So i'm a 17yr old guy who was born with a heart condition called a bicuspid aortic value, which basically means that one of my heart valves is completely closed and another is half shut. So i have been going to a cardiologist for 7+ years now and every year i have gained more wait and my doctor is always coming down hard on me. So my next appointment is coming up in about a month. I need your guys help to aid me in surprising my doctor.   
will anyone be willing to help me with this?
Hey all!

So this is gonna be a long one but, here it goes.

So i'm a 17yr old guy who was born with a heart condition called a bicuspid aortic value, which basically means that one of my heart valves is completely closed and another is half shut. So i have been going to a cardiologist for 7+ years now and every year i have gained more wait and my doctor is always coming down hard on me. So my next appointment is coming up in about a month. I need your guys help to aid me in surprising my doctor.

will anyone be willing to help me with this?
User avatar #16674 to #16644 - mckinkymcormic (08/11/2014) [-]
eat vegan for a month.
User avatar #16654 to #16644 - scoobydoobydo (08/11/2014) [-]
Yes lifting weights will burn fat. But before trying to do a bunch of cardio or training just change your diet. In the morning before you eat breakfast you can take a light walk. Your body should be catabolic and you will burn muscle and fat.
User avatar #16656 to #16654 - ashinydoornob (08/11/2014) [-]
So like start eating certain foods?
User avatar #16658 to #16656 - scoobydoobydo (08/11/2014) [-]
Sigh no. Stop eating the junk you are eating.
User avatar #16663 to #16658 - ashinydoornob (08/11/2014) [-]
Well yeah that is obvious. I've already started doing that and primarily drinking water.

I was talking about implementing health boosters like flax seed and shit
User avatar #16645 to #16644 - derpityhurr (08/11/2014) [-]
What kinda restrictions does the disease give you?
User avatar #16647 to #16645 - ashinydoornob (08/11/2014) [-]
Well it doesn't restrict much with activity wise. but my resting heart rate is higher than normal.
User avatar #16648 to #16647 - derpityhurr (08/11/2014) [-]
Well, at your doctor's discretion, you could start doing a workout routine
User avatar #16650 to #16648 - ashinydoornob (08/11/2014) [-]
Well yeah that's why i came to this board for!

We have a treadmill in my house (which we recently purchased) but I haven't found the time between work. How much cardio will help me lose weight?
User avatar #16651 to #16650 - derpityhurr (08/11/2014) [-]
Well, like I said itd be best to ask your doctor how much cardio will help, though any will help in your fitness
Ive read from other posters here that weightlifting is actually more effective than cardio at burning calories, makes you more muscular at the same time and is less intense on your joints
Ive read this guide, I dont know how accurate or good the workouts are but it seems pretty intelligent: liamrosen.com/fitness.html
User avatar #16652 to #16651 - ashinydoornob (08/11/2014) [-]
So lifting actually burns more calories than cardio?

but will lifting take off the stomach fat that i have?
User avatar #16682 to #16652 - gunni (08/11/2014) [-]
Try to eat a lot of (healthy) protein like fish or eggs or steak and vegetables and oats and wild rice and good fats like olive oil or stuff like that. It actually tastes really great but is kinda expansive. thugkitchen.com is good for some recipes ('cept that pina colada ice cream, that tastes like shit).
Also building muscle will cause you to burn more calories because it is not just very exertive but also having larger muscles need more calories to maintain (e. g. when you sleep or rest).
User avatar #16703 to #16682 - ashinydoornob (08/11/2014) [-]
sorry to be asking so many questions but, is there like a specific routine i should try to follow?
User avatar #16709 to #16703 - gunni (08/11/2014) [-]
There is nothing really strict that you have to stick to
I regularly do body weight exercises, they are all you really need. I mean, back in the days the ancient Greek didn't do it differently and they were fit beasts (at least some of them).
I usually do push ups, pull ups, planks (try to get to 5min), jumped alternating lunges, but also balancing stuff as it also trains your body.
You can do push ups with your hands close together, far apart, one next to your chest on stomach level, with your feet on a higher surface, with your feet on a chair and your hands on chairs allowing you to go deeper, with one leg up in the air, on one arm.
If that's too much for you, you can start by leaving your hands on a desk or chair or what ever.
There are fucking many exercises, just look that you train many muscles in your training.
If you like, you can split up muscle groups (like today I did chest and back and hamstrings).
It is up to you what you do. You can find beginner's routines on web sites.
What is important at the start is that you don't use too much weight because your joints will be fucked and that is irreversible.
User avatar #16696 to #16682 - ashinydoornob (08/11/2014) [-]
Cool thanks man. I'm really glad that i came to this board
User avatar #16697 to #16696 - gunni (08/11/2014) [-]
Good luck bro
Just do one thing
never quit
User avatar #16664 to #16652 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
You lose fat throughout your body, you can't just lose it in one spot.

But yes, lifting will burn more calories then cardio.
#16643 - NotFuni (08/11/2014) [-]
I'm dieting with a mate right now, and i just found out she weighs at least 30kgs less than me, and seriously we wear the same clothing size. Wut??
We are both 5'9, and i weigh 110kg.

How the hell do i weigh so much more than her when we are same height, roughly same clothes size??? I'm confused man....

<<me today
#16746 to #16643 - alimais ONLINE (08/12/2014) [-]
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User avatar #16662 to #16643 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
Differing levels of fat and muscle, muscle is much more dense and compact then fat. So I'd say that she has more muscle mass then you do.
User avatar #16646 to #16643 - derpityhurr (08/11/2014) [-]
Maybe youre more muscular, or have chub in different parts
User avatar #16640 - europe (08/10/2014) [-]
>when your abs become big rather than pronounced and someone calls you fat
User avatar #16655 to #16640 - scoobydoobydo (08/11/2014) [-]
Stomach vaccums.
User avatar #16638 - grogovic (08/10/2014) [-]
Fuck ya'll.
#16639 to #16638 - thisismyhandle (08/10/2014) [-]
What are you doin bruh
What are you doin bruh
User avatar #16630 - marinepenguin (08/10/2014) [-]
Anyone know how heavy a 18.4-38 sized tractor tire is? I wanna guess it's about 300 pounds, it's over 5 feet tall when on it's side. It isn't super thick though and isn't hard to flip, I'll flip it probably 20 times as fast as possible just for a conditioning thing.

I know you should have a tire 2 or 3 times what your weight is, so I want to get a big 600 pound tire that I can use for brute strength.
User avatar #16641 to #16630 - leobaloy (08/10/2014) [-]
I want to make a joke about how tiring that sounds
User avatar #16661 to #16641 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
I want to appreciate a joke like that.
User avatar #16633 to #16630 - LtMcG (08/10/2014) [-]
When you say conditioning, you don't mean cardio-strength do you? With weight that heavy times your body, that's more muscular-strength
User avatar #16659 to #16633 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
Conditioning and cardio isn't the same thing. Cardio is long distance, jogging and biking are prime examples. Conditioning is short, fast, promotes muscle growth, and creates a much larger oxygen debt. So sprints, tires, prowler pushes, farmers walks, complexes, circuits, etc. Conditioning, in my opinion, is much better then running for several miles a day.
User avatar #16668 to #16659 - LtMcG (08/11/2014) [-]
I wasn't suggesting running. I'm trying to grasp your idea of what conditioning is. I get soldiers coming in with a different perspective.

Conditioning will sure get you far and give you a hell of a body. As far as functional fitness ... I would disagree.
User avatar #16670 to #16668 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
Well I guess it depends on what your goal is. If my goal was pure endurance then I would do cardio, if it was a mixture of endurance, strength, and speed I would do conditioning.

And that's fine, everyone can have their own opinion, can I ask why though?
User avatar #16710 to #16670 - LtMcG (08/11/2014) [-]
I've seen studs come in and try to perform an obstacle course. They perform no better than others. It's not necessarily the act of the conditioning that winds them, but the confidence factor and mind games. For example, climbing a rope. Not many know how to do it properly. Or lifting yourself up a ledge. There are many ways to accomplish it, but very little ways to do it with minimum effort.
User avatar #16711 to #16710 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
Well that is a bit different I would say. They may be in better shape, but if they have no experience climbing a rope or doing the specific activities of course they may struggle a bit more. I've done a lot of obstacle courses, ran a race called the tough mudder run (12 miles with an abostacle every 1/4 mile, including ice water, ropes, and electrical shocks) and I had no issues with any of the obstacles, it was more of a mental obstacle to overcome.

I don't think what you are talking about is necessarily a cardio vs conditioning issue, other then just an overconfidence or lacking in that specific skill. Also, a ton of big guys have terrible conditioning.
User avatar #16632 to #16630 - scoobydoobydo (08/10/2014) [-]
Could look up the measurement and see if you can find the same one or maybe it has a name or number on it to search.
User avatar #16660 to #16632 - marinepenguin (08/11/2014) [-]
I haven't found a chart thus far to that's had the tire I have.
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