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User avatar #14945 - yunouppercase (07/09/2014) [-]
so uh does someone wanna coach me a little bit?
User avatar #14946 to #14945 - marinepenguin (07/09/2014) [-]
What with?
User avatar #14956 to #14946 - yunouppercase (07/09/2014) [-]
what's your opinion on bodyweight exercises to get fit, and what / how often should i perform them?
do you have any good recipes for a healthy high carb diet? i should gain some weight.
User avatar #14960 to #14956 - marinepenguin (07/09/2014) [-]
Well if you are just wanting to get fit and gaining a ton of muscle isn't your main goal then bodyweight movements are great, although more-so for the upper body. Pushups, dips, pullups and all variations of those alone can give you a shredded upper body and you can be pretty strong too.

As for legs, sprints and box jumps are pretty much all you can work with after awhile, unless you start working with tires, sleds and stuff like that.

And I don't really have any recipes or anything like that. I keep my diet pretty simple. Just make sure I get enough calories and protein in a day without eating terrible foods. So I can't really help you in that department.
User avatar #14968 to #14960 - yunouppercase (07/09/2014) [-]
i've heard, that one could ruin his joint's with doing too much exercise, how dangerous is this?
also i've heard about people dieing because their blood vessels expanded and their heart couldn't pump blood anymore through their body...
User avatar #14970 to #14968 - marinepenguin (07/09/2014) [-]
Both of those things are pretty ridiculous.

Jogging for a long time can ruin your knee joints, but working out and exercising correctly won't ruin your joints by any means, in fact continuing to workout will promote joint health throughout your life.

Also, the blood vessel one is impossible unless you have some kind of heart condition.
User avatar #14977 to #14970 - yunouppercase (07/09/2014) [-]
but is there generally something like too much exercise, or is it safe in any kind of way?
User avatar #14978 to #14977 - yunouppercase (07/09/2014) [-]
*every kind of way
User avatar #14980 to #14978 - marinepenguin (07/09/2014) [-]
You can do anything in excess. Working out is no exception, if you work out every single day your body won't have enough time or fuel to recover, and your progress will essentially stall and you won't progress. You can work out intensely every single day if you plan it correctly so you don't stress the same body parts every time, and so that you are getting enough fuel and time to recover each part of your body, but only people who are into bodybuilding tend to do that.
User avatar #14971 to #14970 - yunouppercase (07/09/2014) [-]
i guess thats it, since stopping to smoke is a thing i got to do on my own.

well, thanks so far, m8
User avatar #14944 - unncommon (07/09/2014) [-]
I know this isn't advice board, but I have this Jewish friend and it's her birthday and I'm not sure how the Jews celebrate their birthday. So I went ahead and smeared pigs blood on her door and I plan on doing this for the next few days. Also I'd imagine that they don't like the cross so I was gonna go ahead and burn one in her yard (in the middle of the night so she can see it) so it makes her feel at home in Israel or what ever.
Am I doing good?
User avatar #14934 - thisistheguy (07/09/2014) [-]
I started doing olympic lifts this summer like power cleans and snatches and all that fun stuff, anyone have any advice on incorporating them into a workout while I'm still doing a workout that includes deadlifts squat and bench that wouldn't last forever and or kill me?
User avatar #14943 to #14934 - unncommon (07/09/2014) [-]
Deadlifts and squats are incorporated in Olympic programs. Also you could do cleans on pull day and push-press on push day.
User avatar #14933 - voltkills (07/09/2014) [-]
well, im doing the insanity workout thingy, holy shit its hard, im trying to loose a fuckton of weight because tfw 180lb and its mostly fat not muscle. anyone else done it?
#15015 to #14933 - anon (07/09/2014) [-]
It's good for a sweat. It doesn't incorporate pullups or dumbbells or anything like that. It's just "intense" cardio. It's not really useful unless you follow the dietary plan. You might be able to shave off a couple pounds if you do it correctly. You won't really build muscle though, that's why most people do p90x first. I havn't seen anyone with amazing results from Insanity, mine weren't really noticeable, but then again I never did that before and after bullshit. It was good for stamina training though. I've only ever seen results in real life from p90x. I did insanity first and have moved on to p90x, and let me tell you there is a lot of bullshit incorporated. Insanity was FULL of Heismans and p90x incorporates them too. Heismans are fucking worthless.

But do p90x first. Like someone else said, you can change the fat into muscle with p90x then get rid of the excess fat with Insanity.
User avatar #14954 to #14933 - marinepenguin (07/09/2014) [-]
It's decent for losing weight if your diet is good, but otherwise it's just alright.
User avatar #14935 to #14933 - scoobydoobydo (07/09/2014) [-]
Marketing scams to make money. Lol brb lose 10 pounds in one month. Throw it away and get a gym membership. Good fat burner is getting on a bicycle at about level 5 then switching it to level 15 every 30 seconds. You alternate the level from 5 and 15 every 30 seconds while maintaining 100 rpm.
User avatar #14936 to #14935 - voltkills (07/09/2014) [-]
its not a scam, my cousin did it, worked amazingly for him. also i cant motivate myself, easier to do the video than hike myself to an expensive gym and sit on a bike. also gyms are expensive, fuck that.
User avatar #14947 to #14936 - unncommon (07/09/2014) [-]
If you think that doing insanity will help you lose weight, then it's all you. I'm pretty sure that's the one where you dance and shit. Jumping around and doing movements over a period of 30 minutes will burn calories, if that's what you want to know.
User avatar #14950 to #14947 - voltkills (07/09/2014) [-]
yea i know, i just prefer it to paying though the teeth for gym and having to walk to the gym in the rain just to do exercise.
User avatar #14953 to #14950 - unncommon (07/09/2014) [-]
What're you trying to achieve? Because I can almost guarantee that insanity won't give you any noticeable muscle gains. If you're confined to your home then I'd suggest looking up some at-home calisthenics routines and look into purchasing a pull-up bar for some gains.
User avatar #14955 to #14953 - voltkills (07/09/2014) [-]
oh i dont care about muscle, not yet anyway, i just want to loose fat, and lots of it.
User avatar #14959 to #14955 - unncommon (07/09/2014) [-]
Then on top of doing your insanity routine you should cut carbs and increase protein intake. Breakfast should be the largest meal of the day with a decrease in mean size until dinner.
User avatar #14961 to #14959 - voltkills (07/09/2014) [-]
yea, cutting carbs will be hard for me, im going to try though, but isnt increased protein just if youre trying to gain muscle?
User avatar #14965 to #14961 - unncommon (07/09/2014) [-]
While protein is a valuable resource in building muscle you also need it in reducing fat.
User avatar #14940 to #14936 - scoobydoobydo (07/09/2014) [-]
Sean T or whoever his name is spelled does not give a shit whether you get fit or not. All he cares about is you buying is bullshit tapes and making him richer. You think these guys who makes these videos actually do them? Gyms are not expensive depending where you live. The one I go to I guess is expensive but there is others around me that are $10 a month and $20 a month.
User avatar #14941 to #14940 - voltkills (07/09/2014) [-]
local gym: £30 a month
insanity: free
so i get more motivation, better results, and keep my money, i know what i do. and yea he doesnt give a fuck if i get fit or not, but he has a good workout routine, and i care if i get fit, so i will.
User avatar #14942 to #14941 - scoobydoobydo (07/09/2014) [-]
Well good luck with your goals. Personally I can not get motivated by jumping around in my living room following a guy on a screen that has no idea I am even there. I would just feel stupid but do what you do.
User avatar #14948 to #14942 - marinepenguin (07/09/2014) [-]
Insanity and P90X do a pretty good job of losing fat, it's just high intensity shit. A friend of mine who is like 6'5 and 145 pounds used to be 300 pounds, his girlfriend was really heavy before they did it too.

Only problem is that people use it to build muscle and they are terrible for that. The "muscle confusion" idea is bullshit.
User avatar #14951 to #14948 - scoobydoobydo (07/09/2014) [-]
6'5 145 pounds. Wtf that sounds awful.
User avatar #14952 to #14951 - marinepenguin (07/09/2014) [-]
Yeah, he basically went down to 8% bodyfat with no muscle mass. He's ridiculously skinny now. But he doesn't want to give up P90X since it worked so well before. He won't let me train him to gain muscle because he doesn't want to eat a lot, or do anything but P90X.

My whole point was that if you want to lose fat, Insanity and p90X aren't terrible.
User avatar #14957 to #14952 - scoobydoobydo (07/09/2014) [-]
Your friend sounds terrible no offense.
User avatar #14962 to #14957 - voltkills (07/09/2014) [-]
not everyone wants muscles....
User avatar #14963 to #14962 - scoobydoobydo (07/09/2014) [-]
I would rather be fat then look like a 3rd world country slenderman.
User avatar #14964 to #14963 - voltkills (07/09/2014) [-]
there is an inbetween....
User avatar #14966 to #14964 - scoobydoobydo (07/09/2014) [-]
Yeah it is called skinny fat. I do not know how much your weight but you said you wanted to lose a lot. Well when you or if you even lose weight you are just going to look skinny fat. You have recomp your entire body but you choose to be ignorant so why bother explaining.
User avatar #14967 to #14966 - voltkills (07/09/2014) [-]
im 185lb and 5'10, and once i loose weight i plan to put on muscle, not get mad "bruh do you even lift" like you sound like you are, but just decent enough.
User avatar #14969 to #14967 - scoobydoobydo (07/09/2014) [-]
When did I say do you even lift? Good luck completely cutting all your weight then having to gain it back to "try" and gain muscle lmao.
User avatar #14972 to #14969 - voltkills (07/09/2014) [-]
you didnt, you just sound like the dochiest twat ever, and the reason i hate the gym, you sound like the prick who sits their lifting weights laughing at the people trying to get healthy.
User avatar #14973 to #14972 - scoobydoobydo (07/09/2014) [-]
No I just can't believe how arrogant and uneducated people are but it's ok because keep doing insanity and see how "fit" you get.
User avatar #14974 to #14973 - voltkills (07/09/2014) [-]
ahahah
oh boy you are hypocritical
"i cant stand how arrogant people are, because im always right and i know everything"
cant get much more arrogant.
ok, mr font of all wisdom, what would you suggest i do to loose weight, and doesnt involve loosing $50 a month. im all for reasonable suggestions.
User avatar #14979 to #14974 - scoobydoobydo (07/09/2014) [-]
It is good that you don't worry about the scale because weight changes so frequently. It is all about body fat percentage. You will probably not stay 180 pounds. You could be 190 but looking lean depending on your height. If you are under 6' then you will probably be lean at around 160. Everyone's body is different so you can't compare to others unless that person has very very similar genetics.
User avatar #14975 to #14974 - scoobydoobydo (07/09/2014) [-]
I will tell you why you are wrong and dumbfounded. You want to lose weight and then gain some muscle. That will work for a good three months but after that you need to GAIN weight inorder to put on even a tiny bit of muscle. You are at an advantage that you have extra weight that you don't even have to bulk. You can cut down while gaining some muscle for six months but your plan is too do them out of sequence. Combine them and lose weight faster and easier. Having muscle does wonders for your metabolism. If money is your problem then I can't help you. But if you are really motivated then you would find a way. Only you can motivate yourself and I know this first hand from friends trying to get me to do something at the gym besides play basketball for years. Do your own research before telling me that I am mr all wisdom.
User avatar #14976 to #14975 - voltkills (07/09/2014) [-]
oh yea i should have been clear, im not really bothered about the number on the scale, im bothered about how i look, so when i say i want to loose weight im really saying, i want to not have a big as fuck belly and 3 chins, if i could achieve that and stay 180lb that would suit me just fine.
User avatar #14958 to #14957 - marinepenguin (07/09/2014) [-]
Nah he's just stubborn.
User avatar #14931 - drastronomy (07/09/2014) [-]
i am 16 and i have not lost or gained more than a kilo since i was 14.
I was fat when i was 14, fit now, but 20 cm taller.

Is that weird?
User avatar #14932 to #14931 - scoobydoobydo (07/09/2014) [-]
You are not eating enough. What is so hard to understand.
User avatar #14937 to #14932 - drastronomy (07/09/2014) [-]
nigga i eat so much i get close to throwing up every meal

also, i exercise 4 times a week...
User avatar #14939 to #14937 - scoobydoobydo (07/09/2014) [-]
Track your macros because if you are not gaining weight than you are not over eating. 4 times is low for people wanting to get fit.
User avatar #14938 to #14937 - drastronomy (07/09/2014) [-]
but still do not get that much gains
User avatar #14949 to #14938 - marinepenguin (07/09/2014) [-]
You really just probably don't eat enough. Count your calories. If you are eating fewer then 3500 calories then you aren't going to gain a lot of weight.
#14929 - anon (07/09/2014) [-]
I gained 5 pounds over the week i was on vacation. is it safe to lose it again that fast?
User avatar #14930 to #14929 - marinepenguin (07/09/2014) [-]
Depends. That 5 pounds could be water weight. I highly doubt you put on 5 pounds of fat in one week.

If it is fat, if you are a active and fairly muscular young person then yes. If you are already chubby and sedentary, more then likely no.
User avatar #14923 - marinepenguin (07/08/2014) [-]
I'm going to be leaving for vacation on Friday for Ocean Isles beach in South Carolina for about 9 days. I'm hoping I'll have internet in the beach house I'm staying in.

Luckily there's a gym nearby that I can get a week pass to. I'm hoping it isn't some shit cardio box. I want to be able to bench, deadlift, squat, and overhead press at the very least there. If not, sprints and pushups on the beach I guess.
User avatar #14924 to #14923 - leobaloy (07/08/2014) [-]
Jogging in sand is a great workout for your legs.
I did it for about 4 years, although running in the desert at noon in summer was probably overkill. You can thank my sadistic coach for that Although it depends on how soft the sand is.
User avatar #14925 to #14924 - marinepenguin (07/08/2014) [-]
I know it is, although I'm more of a walk, hard run, or sprint guy.

I'm not a fan of jogging. Like I'm sure you've found out.
User avatar #14926 to #14925 - leobaloy (07/09/2014) [-]
I know you don't. But I'd take advantage of the sand while you have it.
User avatar #14927 to #14926 - marinepenguin (07/09/2014) [-]
I'm going to take advantage of the girls there not knowing that I could lose 20 pounds.
User avatar #14928 to #14927 - leobaloy (07/09/2014) [-]
Qt's are a good choice too
User avatar #14911 - teoberry (07/08/2014) [-]
Odd question, but some help would be appreciated. I need to explain to someone why core is important, they think people only work it for a beach body. I'm trying to tell them it's benefits in every sport, they're sort of a casual athlete (not in any serious leagues but plays sports as much as possible). I already know why it's important for lacrosse, hockey, racquet sports, volleyball (to an extent), rugby, but basketball, football, and soccer are stumping me.
User avatar #14919 to #14911 - marinepenguin (07/08/2014) [-]
The core stabilizes literally every single movement your body makes while you are standing up. Having a strong core allows more power transfer throughout your body resulting in being stronger. It drastically decreases the chances of spinal injuries. Having a more powerful core also decreases the chances of hernias.
User avatar #14916 to #14911 - unncommon (07/08/2014) [-]
Core is to sports like water to a hang over.
User avatar #14917 to #14916 - teoberry (07/08/2014) [-]
That's a pretty good analogy. I just reallllllly want to tell him how important it is because he'll look weird as fuck shirtless having a good chest and arms but shit abs. And yeah we ain't talked in a while.
User avatar #14921 to #14917 - scoobydoobydo (07/08/2014) [-]
That will not look weird at all though... If he had really defined abs but skinny arms and chest then it would look weird. Bodybuilders used to just have flat stomachs unlike today's bodybuilders.
User avatar #14920 to #14917 - marinepenguin (07/08/2014) [-]
You really don't have to directly train core. Doing squats, deadlift, pullups, and even curls work your core really well. Really any lift you do upright works your core.
User avatar #14915 to #14911 - unncommon (07/08/2014) [-]
The core plays a vital role not just in actions such as running, lifting, and grappling but in every movement. Someone who has a weak core is severely limiting their athletic and functional ability.

Also hey teo, long time no see.
User avatar #14913 to #14911 - scoobydoobydo (07/08/2014) [-]
Well for starters the core supports thoracic extension which is the most important component of the body's structural integrity.
User avatar #14912 to #14911 - leobaloy (07/08/2014) [-]
The gist of it for bball/soccer and rb's/wr's/te's is balance. You run at high speeds, and very often, switch directions for cuts/jukes, and you need good balance for that, unless you want to hand the ball over to the other team
#14897 - unncommon (07/07/2014) [-]
Deadlifts have me a thick core because of my obliques. Anyone else notice this in them selves?
User avatar #14900 to #14897 - marinepenguin (07/07/2014) [-]
I'd say that you actually have a good V and a pretty slim waist going on. You don't seem really thick to me.
#14905 to #14900 - unncommon (07/07/2014) [-]
Yeah it is kinda hard to tell from that angle.
I was thinking an altered diet and stomach vacuums. But then again I don't really body-build so I'm not too worried about it. But stomach vacuums do help when it comes to heavy lifting (my dad got a hernia from lifting, so I figured I may be predisposed to them).
#14910 to #14905 - anon (07/08/2014) [-]
You can get three different types of hernias. A stomach hernia, and two hernias on the left and right side below the stomach (think bladder area) yes you can be genetically predisposed to hernias. Yes, hernias are EASILY acquired from lifting. Form is key, and even then it is still possible to get them. Hernias are VERY serious despite what people say and can absolutely ruin your life. It requires surgeries to fix all of them, most of the time covered by insurance. If you feel ANYTHING twitching above your crotch and an inch or two below your hips, stop lifting immediately, go to your doctor, get yourself checked out, and get his recommendation. Most will tell you to either stop lifting altogether or to lower your amount lifted. Lifting is a great way to get in shape for some people, but still brings high risk to injury and can ruin your life. If you have hernias it is best to switch to cardio for awhile, as hernias usually don't affect cardio unless you are doing power sprints.
#14906 to #14905 - marinepenguin (07/07/2014) [-]
Yeah you don't look quite as tapered there. I'm build fairly similarly right now I'd say, I have a bit more fat I think.

And you won't have to worry about hernias as long as you 1. Wear a belt when you go heavy, and 2. Keep your core strong and tight during the lift.

I don't think you could be genetically predisposed to them, but I've never heard about that subject, so I could be wrong.
User avatar #14907 to #14906 - unncommon (07/07/2014) [-]
Yeah I don't figure them to be, I guess I'll just start taking time out of my day for vacuums (even though I hate doing them).
#14898 to #14897 - anon (07/07/2014) [-]
No they didn't. Your core is tiny along with the rest of your body.

Do you actually think a 3plate max deadlift is gonna alter your core?
User avatar #14904 to #14898 - unncommon (07/07/2014) [-]
Yes anon. I totally can't lift 315lbs.
I can lift more than three plates if I was in a Snatch-Grip position standing on six more plates. With herpes.
User avatar #14903 to #14898 - marinepenguin (07/07/2014) [-]
I'm gonna say that he can deadlift more then 3 plates. I deadlift more then 3 plates and I just started deadlifting a few months ago.
#14892 - anon (07/06/2014) [-]
If you are new to buying resistance bands how would you go about buying them? Do they have different levels? Are there different kinds? Are they cheap?
User avatar #14893 to #14892 - unncommon (07/06/2014) [-]
I wouldn't recommend getting them as a primary source of fitness. What's your goals and do you have a budget?
#14894 to #14893 - anon (07/07/2014) [-]
i'm just replacing my pull up bar with them. Probably 20-30 bucks and I just want to build some muscle and lose 20 or so pounds of fat.
User avatar #14895 to #14894 - marinepenguin (07/07/2014) [-]
Like uncommon said, not a good idea as your main way of working out.

I especially think it's a terrible idea to replace your pullup bar with them. The pullup and using the pullup bar should be a staple of many peoples workouts.
#14891 - idontfukincareatg (07/06/2014) [-]
I am looking for new workout music. I prefer rock or metal, but I also like some rap. Does anyone have any good recommendations?
User avatar #14918 to #14891 - songemot (07/08/2014) [-]
The Showdown - The Man Named Hell  (Blood In The Gears 2010) I like some stuff by The Showdown, Demon Hunter, Disciple, and Project 86.

And, of course, Austrian Death Machine.
User avatar #14908 to #14891 - teoberry (07/08/2014) [-]
I'm just gonna post my playlist because I'm a slut. Mostly rap

Ante up - MOP
Black Skinhead - Kanye
Blood Diamonds - Game
Bugatti - Ace Hood
Country Shit Remix - BIG Krit
The Devil Is A Lie - Rick Ross
Dreams & Nightmares (Intro) - Meek Mill
Forever - Drake
Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It - Ice Cube
Goldie - A$AP Rocky
Fuck What Happens Tonight - French Montana
Hell Yeah - Rev Theory
Hit Em Up - 2pac
Intro (Where My Dogs At) - DMX
Jesus Walks - Kanye
Let It Go - A$AP Ferg
Mercy - Kanye
Put On - Jeezy
Ready - BOB
User avatar #14922 to #14908 - scoobydoobydo (07/08/2014) [-]
Goldie is a good song. I also like ghetto symphony and peso.
User avatar #14909 to #14908 - teoberry (07/08/2014) [-]
Scared Now - Game
Smoke a Nigga - Juicy J
Stomp - The Roots
They Don't Love You No More - DJ Khaled
Trying to Find A Balance - Atmosphere
War Ready - Rick Ross
Whatchu Want - Biggie
Who Gon Stop Me - Kanye
User avatar #14896 to #14891 - marinepenguin (07/07/2014) [-]
Skillet
Eminem
Thousand Foot Krutch
Lincoln Park
Disturbed

Those are what I listen to a lot off the top of my head.
User avatar #14878 - moarpotatos (07/06/2014) [-]
I'm 17 and I have been lifting for a little while now. I'm 6ft tall, 167 lbs, very little fat. I have been lifting 3 to 6 days a week (usually 5) and gaining weight pretty steadily for the past few months. However, I think my progress is now at a halt. It doesn't seem like I have gained very much muscle or weight in the past few weeks, even though I have been eating a lot, eating well and lifting very frequently. I think it may be something with my routine...if I post that could someone take a look at it, or is that frowned upon here?
User avatar #14880 to #14878 - marinepenguin (07/06/2014) [-]
Go ahead and post it. Won't hurt.

I got stuck at 180lbs a few months ago, and I've managed to get up to 192 now.

But just as a note, progression isn't linear, you could gain 5 pounds of muscle in a couple weeks, then go almost nowhere for a month, then it could pick back up again. Very few people gain weight consistently for long periods of time. As long as your lifts get higher, and you are getting stronger then I wouldn't worry about it for just a few weeks.
User avatar #14881 to #14880 - moarpotatos (07/06/2014) [-]
Ok, thanks for the tip.
And here is my routine:
[I do 4 sets for everything. For compound exercises I'll usually do two or three sets of 8-10 and then one or two for 6. For isolation I usually start with 10-12 reps and then finish doing 8]

A day - Chest + Shoulders + Tris
Bench Press/ Dips/ Dumbell Shoulder Press or Military Press/Dumbell Chest Press/Lateral dumbell raises/ Chest Flyes/Chest Press (machine)/ Front Dumbell raises/ Tricep pushdown/ Skull Crushers or Behind the head curl/

B day - Back + Bi's
Pullups/ Low Row/ Delt flyes/ Barbell row / Shrugs/ Lat presses/ [sometimes deadlifts]/ Preacher curls/ Dumbell curls or cable curls/

C day - Legs+ Abs
Power squats (5 sets)/ Leg extensions/ Leg curls/ Leg presses/ The super awkward leg spreading ass machine / Weighted calf raises/ [sometimes weighted lunges]/ Weighted crunches / Leg raises from pullup bar/ Cable crunch/ Various Oblique exercises

That's about the gist of it. Thanks a lot for reviewing my routine, I really appreciate it.


User avatar #14885 to #14881 - scoobydoobydo (07/06/2014) [-]
I also run a P/P/L. Some of your programming is unnecessary and needs to be moved around so you can follow this suggestions or not.

Push day- You included both bench press and dumbell chest press. Cut out dumbell chest press and add barbell/dumbell incline press. Move dips to the end of your workout. This goes for all body weight exercises. Remove the chest press(machine) also. Add shrugs towards the end of your workout. I think what you mean by behind the head curl is tricep extension.

Pull day- Move pull ups to the end of your workout just like dips. If you do deadlifts that should be your starting exercise as for all main compound movements. Barbell row should follow deadlift and be in the start of the workout. By lat presses I hope you mean lat pulldowns. Rear delt flyes should be towards the end of your workout because it is an isolation movement not compound. For biceps do 4x8-12 straight barbell curl. Then follow with dumbell hammer curls. Preacher curls are just if you really want to.

Leg day- Remove leg spreading machine lol you are not a teenage girl I don't think.

Hope this helps.


User avatar #14886 to #14885 - moarpotatos (07/06/2014) [-]
This helps a lot. Thank you very much
User avatar #14889 to #14886 - scoobydoobydo (07/06/2014) [-]
No problem. Message me if you have any other questions.
User avatar #14884 to #14881 - unncommon (07/06/2014) [-]
Please, never list anything like that again.
And MP is right when he says "As long as your increasing the weight you're getting stronger". But it sounds like you've hit a plateau and when I hit a plateau in weight is instead of trying to increase the weight each workout (and risking a decrease in form) I try increase amount of reps I do by at least one each time.
User avatar #14890 to #14884 - marinepenguin (07/06/2014) [-]
This is pretty good advice too moarpotatos, as long as you can continue to get more reps, you're getting stronger in my opinion.
User avatar #14882 to #14881 - marinepenguin (07/06/2014) [-]
What exactly are you goals, what body type are you looking at, what are your maxes? You do a lot of auxiliary exercises, and your doing pretty much exactly what I was before I got stuck. I was doing a basic push pull legs routine much like yours and I did a lot of what you did. You seem to be working out a lot like a bodybuilder, which is fine. But it's hard to progress like that if you don't have a good base of strength.
User avatar #14883 to #14882 - moarpotatos (07/06/2014) [-]
In terms of body type, for most of my life I was always really skinny, up until now. I have a very pronounced v taper build, as I'm broad up top and have an alarmingly small waist. Right now, I am not big by any stretch of the imagination, but I have a solid amount of toned lean muscle.

My primary goal is aesthetics, honestly. I really want to put on a lot more muscle mass, but I don't want to be a hulk. For example, there are a lot of guys at my gym who are extremely muscular and strong, but they're somewhat fat at the same time and don't really have any tone. I'm trying to find a balance between big and toned, where I have muscle mass but at the same time have well defined muscles. So I guess right now I'm just going for size, to increase mass.

I can feel myself getting stronger and being able to do more reps with higher weight, but at the same time I'm not seeing many physical gains. Do you have any recommendations for what I should do differently? I watched a strength camp video a little while back where this guy was talking about how one should just do many sets of dips, deadlifts, pullups, squats and bench presses and not really focus on isolation exercises. Do you think that is a good idea?
User avatar #14888 to #14883 - marinepenguin (07/06/2014) [-]
Also, scooby has a lot of good points that I didn't go over in what he said.
User avatar #14887 to #14883 - marinepenguin (07/06/2014) [-]
Well before you go switching your routine, you need to make sure you are eating enough. And I'm talking 4000 calories of decent foods. That's a lot, more then most people even realize. If you eat just right, and you eat good foods, you should be able to gain a lot of lean muscle mass without gaining a lot of fat, that's all that "toned" is, having a low body fat. That's where I have kind of screwed up, I could probably lose 5-10 pounds of solid fat and look a lot better (I'm probably around 15% bodyfat right now). But shedding fat if you are a muscular and active teenager isn't hard at all.

Secondly, I'd focus more around the main lifts, Squats, Bench, Deadlifts, Overhead presses. Do several sets 5-8 sets of 5-8 reps, that seems to be the sweet spot for gaining mass. Have a few auxiliary movement like dips, pullups, hack squats, etc. For 12-15 reps with around 5 sets.

Last thing, if you want a big v taper, DO NOT WORK OBLIQUES. Getting your obliques larger will make you seem thick, straight, and blocky. Bad for aesthetic lifters.

But like I originally said, check your diet first, if you still aren't seeing progress within a month or 2, switch it up. But I must caution you, don't get obsessed over results, many lifters don't see results in 2 months and just switch it up, then never see results, then they quit because they're discouraged. Learn to love the journey, and the process of working out, instead of just being so focused on if you can see a vein in your pec yet or not. You're young, these things take a lot of time in some cases, it's best to stick with one workout setup for at least 3 months, I would even say 4 months. Experiment, find what works best for you, and have a lot of fun being stronger then 90% of people you pass by on the street.
User avatar #14874 - hsm (07/06/2014) [-]
How do i avoid becoming an asshole just because i'm too proud of myself.
User avatar #14879 to #14874 - marinepenguin (07/06/2014) [-]
It is difficult. I know the feeling.
#14875 to #14874 - unncommon (07/06/2014) [-]
Embrace it. That's what I do.
#14867 - unncommon (07/06/2014) [-]
So what do you guys use for a PreWorkout (if anything)?
This stuff is reminiscent of the old Jack3d but without the crash.
+/- It gives you the PreWorkout tingles
+ It's energizing
+ It's motivating
+ Quick onset
+ Tastes like candy and dissolves well
+ Little to no crash
- You become mentally dull temporarily
- Your entire body feels like it's on fire if you take too much
- You have to pee a lot after the workout
- Expensive (although GNC does have some good sales)
#14871 to #14867 - marinepenguin (07/06/2014) [-]
I was using this stuff called C4 for awhile. It made me feel real jittery for awhile and I almost HAD to workout after I drank it.

I didn't really experience any kind of crash or tingly shit or anything strange. Just kind of wore off after awhile. And this was taking double the recommended amount.
User avatar #14872 to #14871 - unncommon (07/06/2014) [-]
C4 never have me the energy I wanted. But I've heard it works very well for some people.
User avatar #14873 to #14872 - marinepenguin (07/06/2014) [-]
I stopped taking it because it stopped working well after awhile. Starting taking some other stuff that didn't really work either. After that I haven't really felt the need for it.
User avatar #14876 to #14873 - scoobydoobydo (07/06/2014) [-]
You have to take a month or two off any preworkouts because you become too tolerant to it.
User avatar #14877 to #14876 - marinepenguin (07/06/2014) [-]
Well I haven't used any for awhile now.
User avatar #14870 to #14867 - scoobydoobydo (07/06/2014) [-]
I last took muscle pharm assault. It was ok but kinda unnecessary. I also took pump fuel which I thought was really good. Didn't have a lot of beta alanine like c4 which makes me get a bunch of hives. Pump fuel made you really focus and feel energized but the scoop was kinda big.
#14864 - baitdoesnttalkback (07/05/2014) [-]
www.younow.com/speedyOfficial

what's your excuse? even a retard is more ripped than you
#14866 to #14864 - anon (07/05/2014) [-]
First of all, there are people in wheelchairs with more muscle than people who can walk but this proves nothing because not everyone is able to lift

Secondly, do you have room to criticize anyone here, because I've seen your picture MP and uncommon got you beat
User avatar #14865 to #14864 - marinepenguin (07/05/2014) [-]
Ripped? He's still pretty skinny.

Impressively strong for his situation, but I wouldn't say he's 'ripped'
#14863 - Beenfiftyfive (07/05/2014) [-]
Dwayne Johnson's Hercules back workout: 9/10 I am fucked
#14855 - anon (07/04/2014) [-]
Implying that you work out, is it better to look like you weigh more or less than your actual weight?
User avatar #14868 to #14855 - unncommon (07/06/2014) [-]
'Pends on your goals/body. I weigh 173lbs but I look like I weigh 160 - 165. I'm happy.
User avatar #14856 to #14855 - marinepenguin (07/04/2014) [-]
Your actual weight isn't really a big deal unless you are in a sport with weight classes, if you like the way you look and are progressing then the weight is only really a goal.

But I guess it wouldn't be the great for the ego if you weighed 175 but looked more like you were 150.
#14859 to #14856 - anon (07/04/2014) [-]
I weigh ~133 lbs (Only 5' 5" with a small frame) but I've been told I look closer to 150 lbs. I'm guessing that's good?
User avatar #14860 to #14859 - marinepenguin (07/04/2014) [-]
Well it's because you short. When I weighed 150 I didn't even look like I worked out. Your lucky when it comes to the weightroom world.
User avatar #14853 - nsfwcontent (07/04/2014) [-]
Looking to add Creatine to my diet to help with gaining muscle mass.

What do I need to know?
(e.g. how much to buy? how much to take and when? what to be careful of?)
User avatar #14869 to #14853 - unncommon (07/06/2014) [-]
"Dr. Hultman and coworkers employed several strategies, including a rapid protocol involving 6 days of creatine supplementation at a rate of 20 g/day, and a slower protocol with supplementation for 28 days at a rate of 3 g/day.4 Following the rapid protocol, they also studied a maintenance dose of 2 g/day for 28 days. Both the rapid and slow protocols produced similar findings, about a 20% increase in muscle total creatine concentration. The elevated muscle total creatine concentration was maintained when supplementation was continued at a rate of 2 g/day." - You need to login to view this link

www.bodybuilding.com/fun/anssi1.htm
#14862 to #14853 - scoobydoobydo (07/04/2014) [-]
I researched a lot about creatine before I bought it. So much out there is just garbage and people calling it a steroid lol. First, when looking for creatine look for creatine monohydrate. You take 5g everyday. 5g is equal to a teaspoon but more than likely they provide a scoop. Really the only thing to be careful of is people trying to make out creatine as worse than meth.
User avatar #14857 to #14853 - marinepenguin (07/04/2014) [-]
You don't really need to start taking creatine until your late 20's, your body produces plenty right now. Whey Protein shakes would suffice, and probably be cheaper too.
User avatar #14836 - donkdynasty ONLINE (07/03/2014) [-]
Is it common for you to start plateauing with the bowflex, because it doesn't go very far up in weight, or am I just not being creative enough with it?

I've been using it for a while, and I'm just not seeing gains anymore with it. It's too easy.
User avatar #14837 to #14836 - scoobydoobydo (07/04/2014) [-]
Best thing to do would be to join a gym and start a program. No shortcuts but it is rewarding with lots of work.
User avatar #14838 to #14837 - donkdynasty ONLINE (07/04/2014) [-]
I went to a gym for a while but my membership had some complications, and I'm in-between jobs so I haven't had the money to renew my membership.
User avatar #14842 to #14838 - scoobydoobydo (07/04/2014) [-]
Btw once I started lifting I became so addicted to it that it replaced my addiction of league . Life was much better without league I have to say.
#14858 to #14842 - anon (07/04/2014) [-]
every time i had a bad game i would run a mile or two or go lift. best shape i was ever in. then i quit league and gained some poundage. now im combining the two again to get back in shape. that game is rage inducing garbage, but the rage is great workout fuel.
User avatar #14861 to #14858 - scoobydoobydo (07/04/2014) [-]
Lol with all those trolls I would be running a marathon everyday.
User avatar #14843 to #14842 - donkdynasty ONLINE (07/04/2014) [-]
I manage to do both
User avatar #14840 to #14838 - scoobydoobydo (07/04/2014) [-]
Damn I feel what you're saying. You could try calisthenics. Hardly any equipment needed but still has good results. As long as you have good enough strength to support your body weight you should be able to do all the body weight exercises.
#14835 - anon (07/03/2014) [-]
Say what you want about p90x, but damnit their stretches and warmups are just fucking terrible.
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