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#29233 - anonymous (04/11/2015) [-]
So I'm 16, a girl, and I've lost 20 pounds. I still have about 40 more to go to be at my goal weight, but I was wondering if lifting would help me lose weight as well? I've always been interested and would really like to start. If you guys have any comments please feel free to reply.
User avatar #29234 to #29233 - marinepenguin (04/11/2015) [-]
Lifting would absolutely help. Raises metabolism, builds and maintains muscle mass, and makes you look pretty Damn good.
#29236 to #29234 - anonymous (04/11/2015) [-]
I have a membership at my schools fitness center, so what should I do? I'm not too educated when it comes to weight lifting.
User avatar #29241 to #29236 - marinepenguin (04/11/2015) [-]
These are some pretty decent splits and information for a women to train with.

www.bodybuilding.com/fun/womens-strength-training-guide.htm
User avatar #29230 - markeywo (04/11/2015) [-]
FIT FAGS
If any of you guys could answer my political poll that'd great thanks.
Keep being the best looking board here.
User avatar #29235 to #29230 - marinepenguin (04/11/2015) [-]
Link to poll?
#29228 - lordketchup (04/11/2015) [-]
How many of you guys are on a permabulk?   
   
Be honest with me now, is it because you're lazy or do you actually not care about looks?
How many of you guys are on a permabulk?

Be honest with me now, is it because you're lazy or do you actually not care about looks?
User avatar #29277 to #29228 - leal (04/12/2015) [-]
me
I just don't care enough to get down from 14% bf atm.
#29269 to #29228 - dehumanizer (04/12/2015) [-]
I have no one to look good for.
User avatar #29286 to #29269 - marinepenguin (04/12/2015) [-]
You got yourself nigga.
#29288 to #29286 - dehumanizer (04/12/2015) [-]
whats the point in cutting for myself? I'll just be hungry all the time and even more picky and strict on my diet

I dont really care about having a six pack, i dont lift for girls i lift for the same reason i spend more than 40 hours per week playing vidya.
User avatar #29289 to #29288 - marinepenguin (04/12/2015) [-]
Pride from knowing you have the discipline and mental strength to go hungry for a month or two so that you look good. Pride in your own body and abilities?
#29292 to #29289 - dehumanizer (04/12/2015) [-]
would it not only slow my progress?

i dont go around taunting the fact that i lift, i just do because i have to
User avatar #29293 to #29292 - marinepenguin (04/12/2015) [-]
Depends on what your definition of progress is. If just unadulterated strength is your goal regardless of how you look, then it would slow your progress some. If your goal is a more healthy, athletic, defined physique that's also strong. It's necessary.
User avatar #29250 to #29228 - Draigor (04/12/2015) [-]
Considering a cut right now because I messed up my knee the other night. Otherwise, I've been "bulking" for the last year and a half because of shitty college food and not caring.
#29246 to #29228 - baglesbites (04/11/2015) [-]
I'm almost 20% bodyfat and am strongly considering a cut. The only problem is I had to cut back my work load due to work and don't know if I can maintain my mass and lifts because I'm having trouble gaining as is. I have lost weight before and will do it again.
User avatar #29238 to #29228 - marinepenguin (04/11/2015) [-]
I wouldn't say I'm permabulking. I care about what I look like. But I'm trying to gain as much lean muscle as possible. If I reach a point where I need to cut, I'll lower the calories, ramp up the volume, and do more conditioning.
#29297 to #29238 - dehumanizer (04/12/2015) [-]
>implying i lift for either of those
User avatar #29298 to #29297 - marinepenguin (04/12/2015) [-]
I wasn't saying you were, they were just examples.
#29299 to #29298 - dehumanizer (04/12/2015) [-]
whoops replied to a wrong post, anyways i might cut in the future but as of right now it really seems pointless
User avatar #29232 to #29228 - europe (04/11/2015) [-]
Kinda both, though I definitely want to increase my strength a lot before I'm going to start cutting
Besides, it's not as if I look bad even if I'm bulking
User avatar #29229 to #29228 - studbeefpile (04/11/2015) [-]
ForeverBulkingBro reporting in.

Yes.
User avatar #29222 - mion (04/11/2015) [-]
Hey fitside of funnyjunk.

After months of terrible failure, I finally started to lose weight by dieting again

Cut down daily calories from unknown number to 1.6 - 2k (daily recommendation from an internet calcalc was 2.5k).

1 week later and I lost whooping 3.3kg (according to the internet 7lb). Which makes me step down from 121.9kg to 118.6.
20kg to go and I'll finally reach my goal of weighing less than 100kg.
User avatar #29224 to #29222 - beatmasterz (04/11/2015) [-]
that's great keep it up
User avatar #29219 - storkillen (04/11/2015) [-]
Started to train bicycling a couple of days ago, and an already existing issue has risen. When I try to pull my left leg upwards, I can sometimes experience pain, which comes from me being weak in that muscle.

I don't know much about atonomy, but I think it's the front part of my left thigh that has this issue. How could I train this part (as in what exercises) to avoid this? Just keep cycling or is there some great exercise for it.

Thanks in advance!

Edit: Someone mentioned squats, is there any particular way to do these that I should know off?
User avatar #29227 to #29219 - lordketchup (04/11/2015) [-]
you should not isolate the left leg because that will eventually cause muscle imbalance
User avatar #29210 - anonassassin (04/11/2015) [-]
I have a couple of questions about training.

If I'm going for gaining muscle mass while doing cardio, should I run before or after lifting? I currently run/jog for at least 1 km before lifting then run/jog another 1 or 2 km afterwards.

And is intermittent fasting effective? I'm considering trying it out
User avatar #29225 to #29210 - beatmasterz (04/11/2015) [-]
If you're doing it at the same time run after you lift so your CNS can have a break.
User avatar #29214 to #29210 - marinepenguin (04/11/2015) [-]
Usually you should run in the morning and lift at night, or vise versa.

And there's been some promising research with mice that shows that intermittent fasting may be extremely beneficial, but it's still being researched. It's worth giving it a shot if you like to experiment.
User avatar #29217 to #29214 - anonassassin (04/11/2015) [-]
Alright. Time to experiment

Thanks for the advice!
#29205 - leal (04/11/2015) [-]
Dayum the vein
User avatar #29207 to #29205 - studbeefpile (04/11/2015) [-]
Forearm veins are pretty normal.
User avatar #29231 to #29207 - leal (04/11/2015) [-]
>shoulder
User avatar #29242 to #29231 - studbeefpile (04/11/2015) [-]
I don't see anything on your shoulder.
User avatar #29296 to #29270 - studbeefpile (04/12/2015) [-]
I still don't see anything.....
User avatar #29196 - studbeefpile (04/11/2015) [-]
Breaking Plateaus

Good video.
User avatar #29208 to #29196 - marinepenguin (04/11/2015) [-]
I liked it, except that he said that a pump won't make you grow. Which is incredibly false. Other than that it was awesome.
User avatar #29209 to #29208 - studbeefpile (04/11/2015) [-]
He's right about that, you know....

That's why you have to progressively overload in weight. You can keep getting a pump at the same weight with the same reps, over and over and over again.

Granted you can get a pump while lifting heavier weights, but a pump alone will absolutely not make you grow. Hell, I get a pump in my calves every time I walk an incline, but they're still tiny.
User avatar #29226 to #29209 - beatmasterz (04/11/2015) [-]
Only on roids can a pump make you gain muscle.
User avatar #29211 to #29209 - marinepenguin (04/11/2015) [-]
Bodybuilders have been "chasing the pump" since the 60s. Saying that you can't grow from a pump is pure silliness. A pump is achieved through an extended period of TUT (time under tension) which is one of the prime causes of muscle growth.

I understand that you're more powerlifter oriented, but come on man.
User avatar #29212 to #29211 - studbeefpile (04/11/2015) [-]
You can get a pump while progressively overloading, but pump alone wont make you grow. Muscles grow to adapt, if you give them the same weight over and over again, they won't have to adapt to anything new, and they won't grow. It's simple as that. Otherwise you'd see guys getting huge off of push ups and body weight squats, which of course doesn't happen. That's why calisthenics in general don't get you very far in the way of size. You can get a ridiculous pump from push-ups, but you won't grow past a certain point. You have to add weight to get bigger.
User avatar #29213 to #29212 - marinepenguin (04/11/2015) [-]
Of course you need progressive overload. I'm not arguing that. You still use progressive overload with pump work. You just perform reps differently. Partials, high reps, slow concentric and eccentric lifts, and many other forms of doing a rep can be considered pump work.

And there are more ways to create progressive overload without adding weight or reps.
User avatar #29215 to #29213 - studbeefpile (04/11/2015) [-]
In the video he referred to 'getting a pump' and progressive overload separately, implying he was referring to only getting a pump (without PO).

There are, like volume, intensity, etc. However, at a certain point you just have to add weight. Like I said, this is why you don't see any huge guys that got there just from body weight stuff.
User avatar #29218 to #29215 - marinepenguin (04/11/2015) [-]
Also did you see my posts earlier?
User avatar #29220 to #29218 - studbeefpile (04/11/2015) [-]
which posts?
User avatar #29221 to #29220 - marinepenguin (04/11/2015) [-]
>>#29160,

These posts specifically.
User avatar #29216 to #29215 - marinepenguin (04/11/2015) [-]
I had taken it as "pump work is worthless in any circumstance". Of course you'll ultimately need to use more weight, that undeniable for any serious lifter. But claiming that going for a pump has no worth is just incorrect.

And well of course, greater weight equals greater tension. You would use things like increasing workout density, if you were hitting a plateau. But you're goal is still to get to a higher weight in the end, these things are just tools to do so.
#29194 - crazymannequin (04/11/2015) [-]
Hey guys I want to start a good fat burning workout. But I have no idea where to begin. Any advice? Also anyone got links for good diet plans?
#29199 to #29194 - baglesbites (04/11/2015) [-]
A basic weight trainings routine like stronglifts 5x5 or Ice cream fitness 5x5 and doing cardio at on a couple of off days would be a good place to start.
Strength training will help build muscle and muscle needs a decent chunk of calories to maintain their mass. That means more calories are being burned making it a little easier to lose fat.
#29201 to #29199 - crazymannequin (04/11/2015) [-]
cool thanks for the advice. Ill definently give it a shot
User avatar #29197 to #29194 - studbeefpile (04/11/2015) [-]
HIIT, with running or biking.
#29198 to #29197 - crazymannequin (04/11/2015) [-]
Thanks for the advice bro
User avatar #29200 to #29198 - studbeefpile (04/11/2015) [-]
No problem. (very easy to google the specifics of what it is, if you don't know)

Should be done about twice a week, with walking for about 30-45 minutes every day. You'll lose weight no problem, as long as your eating is also under control.
#29202 to #29200 - crazymannequin (04/11/2015) [-]
yeah that's what I need to work on also I've already starting cutting things out of my diet like soda and other things
User avatar #29206 to #29202 - studbeefpile (04/11/2015) [-]
Good! Cutting out soda goes a looong way. Just remember to still drink lots of water.
#29223 to #29206 - crazymannequin (04/11/2015) [-]
oh yeah I've mostly stuck to water, tea, and milk
User avatar #29193 - rebornpotato (04/11/2015) [-]
So after just starting up at the gym i'm wondering how long does it usually take you guys to finish your workout? Is that with cardio as well
I'm mainly wondering since my dad was the one who trained me my first 2 days and i'm curious how long his routine is compared to others. He also said that diet was the most important thing, and essentially has told me to just turn carnivore and eat anything that has a pulse and cut out a lot of other shit which to me seems like it would be bad.
#29195 to #29193 - baglesbites (04/11/2015) [-]
My workouts take anywhere from 45 minutes to an hour and a half depending on what I'm doing in terms of exercises, reps, sets, weight etc. That's usually without cadio, maybe 10 minutes of conditioning.
Eating a lot of meats is fine as long as you feel fine, get your fiber, and eat plenty of veggies for your micro nutrients- vitamins and such. If you don't like that type of diet much you should still eat good foods like nuts, eggs, rice, potatoes (sweet and white are both fine) oats and dairy in general. Junk here and there won't kill your diet if you eat it in moderation.
Your dad is right about diet, it really is important to eat enough calories to build muscle, but not get super fat in the process.
#29186 - anonymous (04/10/2015) [-]
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#29185 - anonymous (04/10/2015) [-]
Just lost 20lbs
Hugest dump in my life
#29184 - europe (04/10/2015) [-]
>guy at the gym grunting like a rampaging gorilla while doing lightweight exercises this morning
Who do some guys do this?
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User avatar #29180 - envinite (04/10/2015) [-]
Need advice for a tight schedule & cutting.

Until the next 3-4 weeks, I have to train as a base in a cheerleader team, monday-friday from 7pm-12pm. Those hours is the only time I can go to the gym since my schedule is pretty busy and my gym don't open 24/7. I managed to workout in the afternoon after class for a while, but I feel like shit when lifting those bitches up in the air because I only have like an hour free time between finished workout and the training. I'm pretty sure there's no way I can recover in an hour, so for a while, I only lift 1/4-1/2 less weight than usual so I can still have energy for my training but I don't think it's enough.

I'm currently trying to cut to get dem abs, so I'm thinking to just focus with abs (since it's the least used in training, not because I believe I can spot reduce fat) everytime I go to gym and lift with less weight or reps for other muscle groups so I don't feel sore when training as a cheerleader.

Is this a good plan?
#29176 - sry (04/10/2015) [-]
if you today, you get bitches
if you dont today, you live as a pathetic beta faggot for the rest of your life
choose wisely
#gate
#29203 to #29176 - swiggityswooty (04/11/2015) [-]
what if we lifted for one bitch, but it wasnt enough
#29177 to #29176 - sugoi (04/10/2015) [-]
What if I don't want bitches?
What if I don't want bitches?
User avatar #29161 - insertclevernames (04/10/2015) [-]
fat burners, good or bad idea?
User avatar #29181 to #29161 - dreygur ONLINE (04/10/2015) [-]
Nah, miracle treatments are almost always shady. Cutting down on food and daily exercise is very easy after you've asked a dietist for directions.
User avatar #29162 to #29161 - marinepenguin (04/10/2015) [-]
Like the drug? Absolute bull unless you are obese. And even then they're not good on their own.

Only one fat burning pill has proven extremely effective, and it's so effective you die after using it for more then 6-8 days.
User avatar #29170 to #29168 - marinepenguin (04/10/2015) [-]
Just read through most of their ingredients. All these are, are appetite supressants to make you want to eat less and then some caffeine to give you energy.

If you diet right and exercise, these could possibly hurt your progress. Eating too little could be bad, and at 300+ pounds, your blood pressure is higher and your heart is under extra stress, so caffeine in these levels are a no-no. Don't take it.
User avatar #29172 to #29170 - insertclevernames (04/10/2015) [-]
thanks man, i wont take any. are there substances i should take? (i.e. creatine, muscle milk, etc.)
User avatar #29173 to #29172 - marinepenguin (04/10/2015) [-]
Maybe just take some muscle milk or protein powders to keep your protein consumption higher, and do some strength involved stuff so that you'll preserve muscle mass. Otherwise diet and some light exercise should be plenty right now for you to lose weight.
User avatar #29166 to #29162 - insertclevernames (04/10/2015) [-]
well i mean im not HUGE. but im def fat. im 6'3" 332 lbs (this sparked my wakeup call). and from what ive read theyre good if you use them with a good diet and a workout plan. and i mean the pills you get from any local GNC
User avatar #29169 to #29166 - marinepenguin (04/10/2015) [-]
These pills usually only try to increase your metabolism a little, resulting in some weight loss. If you combine it with a diet and exercise your need for such a pill is nullified. If you want to be lazy, eat better and take the pill. If you want to see real, consistent results, eat better and exercise. You can take the pill too, but you may be wasting your money.
User avatar #29163 to #29162 - teoberry (04/10/2015) [-]
what pill? i wanna read about it
User avatar #29165 to #29163 - marinepenguin (04/10/2015) [-]
DNP, essentially it takes your body fat and converts it to heat. And unlike most drugs, it only increases in effectiveness as you take it, so it works at a faster and faster rate, shedding pure fat at an abysmal rate.

Problem is, that heats gotta go somewhere, so you'll have a fever that will increase with each day that you take it. And after 6-8 days you will be under so much heat that you'll die of your organs cooking themselves. Although you can go from 20% body fat to single digits in that time period. Risk isn't worth the reward in my opinion.
User avatar #29167 to #29165 - teoberry (04/10/2015) [-]
oh fuck, definitely not. absolutely stupid for some people to be doing this. unless you're morbidely obese and are facing health problems anyways, i don't see the need. cut your calories and eat clean and you can have a 'beach bod''
User avatar #29171 to #29167 - marinepenguin (04/10/2015) [-]
Plus the long term effects are unknown, heating up your body like that has to have some long term issues after a while. I wouldn't take it.
User avatar #29160 - marinepenguin (04/10/2015) [-]
Using the stage method, I've done 6 singles with 305 on deadlift, then 2 sets of 3 with 275. Hasn't been too hard, but I'm excited to see how I'll progress on this particular setup.
User avatar #29174 to #29160 - marinepenguin (04/10/2015) [-]
Also keeping track of total amount of pounds lifted during my workouts. Today's workout I lifted 16,420 total pounds, so next time I'll try to improve upon that number. Looked back at a couple other back days, and I had over 22,000 in one workout, so I'll work my way up to that for a while as well.
#29145 - anonymous (04/09/2015) [-]
Anyone ever get runner's knee have any tips to heal it
#29204 to #29145 - swiggityswooty (04/11/2015) [-]
when it heals work with a few low squats and some lower leg training, for knee stabilization to keep it from persisting in the future, for right now bengay and a few upper body days cant hurt
User avatar #29148 to #29145 - insertclevernames (04/09/2015) [-]
knee braces always help
#29144 - nonbenderinlife ONLINE (04/09/2015) [-]
What are good songs to listen to while being at the gym/lifting? I listen to old rock mostly (Fleetwood Mac) but not metal and stuff. Thanks in advance
#29149 to #29144 - baglesbites (04/09/2015) [-]
Whatever gets you in the mood to move some weights. I personally listen to metal bands like killswitch engage and parkway drive during heavy lifts but like other rock like rise against for cardio or long sets with moderate weight.
User avatar #29155 to #29149 - marinepenguin (04/10/2015) [-]
Killswitch engage is always a classic. Also Korn and disturbed never fail me.
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User avatar #29147 to #29139 - insertclevernames (04/09/2015) [-]
if you dont mind me asking how much do you weigh? im going through the same thing right now.
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User avatar #29156 to #29150 - marinepenguin (04/10/2015) [-]
You seem not nearly that heavy, so you probably have a decent amount of muscle mass. Just cut down, then lean bulk as best as you can.
User avatar #29153 to #29150 - studbeefpile (04/10/2015) [-]
You're pretty thin for 258, how tall are you?
User avatar #29157 to #29153 - lazaman (04/10/2015) [-]
6'6"
User avatar #29182 to #29157 - dreygur ONLINE (04/10/2015) [-]
Normalweight is pretty high when you're so tall.
User avatar #29158 to #29157 - studbeefpile (04/10/2015) [-]
hah, that'll do it!
User avatar #29159 to #29158 - lazaman (04/10/2015) [-]
Yeah. But without a shirt on, you can actually kinda see how tubby I am.
User avatar #29142 to #29139 - studbeefpile (04/09/2015) [-]
It's extremely difficult and somewhat complicated to lose weight and gain muscle at the same time. Safe bet is to cut first, then go into a lean mass building phase.
User avatar #29143 to #29142 - lazaman (04/09/2015) [-]
Figured as much.
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