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User avatar #20871 - ablueguy (11/16/2014) [-]
I had a broken leg for about a month and a half, got out of the cast today.
I want to get my legs strong again, what are some good exercises aside from the obvious dead lifts and squats?
User avatar #20884 to #20871 - fallenraven (11/16/2014) [-]
i broke my foot man and it takes a looooong time to heal, I honestly recommend PT, I ignored it for awhile but now am doing it, helps a lot.
User avatar #20873 to #20871 - jokerjack (11/16/2014) [-]
Just gaining strength the same way you always have. Don't overdo it at the begining, I've heard of people injuring joints and tendons because those have attrophied as well. Front squats, dumbell lunges, barbell step ups, power cleans, have been my favorite assistance exercises for legs

As for the cassein there really isn't benefit over any other added protein source. It digest slower than whey, so if you're taking it in the morning it could help you feel full longer as the body slowly uses it. The myth about needing fast whey right after a workout, and cassein before bed, has been largely debunked. If a person is getting enough protein in general there's really no effect.
User avatar #20874 to #20873 - ablueguy (11/16/2014) [-]
Thanks
User avatar #20872 to #20871 - ablueguy (11/16/2014) [-]
Also, a friend recommended I tart taking Casein protein, anyone know more about it?
#20882 to #20872 - baglesbites ONLINE (11/16/2014) [-]
Casein is a slower digesting protein. The reason why people like whey is because it is absorbed by the body at a quicker rate. In reality if you have a decent diet with protein from a couple different sources it does not matter if you have a casein powder
User avatar #20875 to #20869 - jokerjack (11/16/2014) [-]
Hurr durr but carbs are bad and wheat is the devil!
User avatar #20879 to #20875 - MrMysteriousMagic (11/16/2014) [-]
glooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 10
#20867 - tacodaddy (11/15/2014) [-]
hey i got a problem,i have an huge chest but no back somebody know a good workout for back to balance everything? please
#20893 to #20867 - lotengo (11/16/2014) [-]
I to, used to have a very strong chest, could do 35 kg 77lbs dumbbell benchpresses over 12, or even 40kg 88lbs dumbbells two times while going very deep.
For me that was a lot compared to my body weight.
But because of my weak back i could never to a decent deadlift. I arched my back when i bended over to pick up the bar evn at low weights.
in my natural stance my shoulders would hunch over and my back was arched a bit

The T-bar Row, as seen in pic was a game changer for me. Felt great on my back, especially my traps, and also my shoulders
It improved my stance in a matter of weeks.

User avatar #20876 to #20867 - jokerjack (11/16/2014) [-]
Stay balanced bro. people get caugh up with bench press and overhead press and a million variations of each but forget that pulling is an important motion as well.

Best things are barbell rows (the fully bent over kind, where you pull from the ground to your chest in the opposite of a bench motion) and full pull ups. Run those 2 as dedicateidly as you have done your bench and press.
User avatar #20868 to #20867 - BIGSEXYISBACKAGAIN (11/16/2014) [-]
Sorry if I got your hopes up but I'm just commenting to see if someone else answers. I'm interested because I've been having shoulder problems because my muscles are out of balance.
User avatar #20877 to #20868 - jokerjack (11/16/2014) [-]
See above. Rows and pull ups. Hit those as hard as you've been hitting bench and press
User avatar #20942 to #20877 - BIGSEXYISBACKAGAIN (11/17/2014) [-]
Thanks man.
User avatar #20866 - fallenraven (11/15/2014) [-]
just for a tip for anyone, if you are depressed working out actually helps a lot. I am a veteran and a alcoholic, was thinking about killing myself. bout 2 months ago I started working out again, the first time since I was overseas. It feaes amazing, probably saved my life
User avatar #20878 to #20866 - jokerjack (11/16/2014) [-]
Glad you've found something to help. Just doing something to better yourself can go miles to fixing a person's outlook on life. Thank you for your service, I wish there was something I could do about why so many past soldiers have to deal with the demons they do
User avatar #20883 to #20878 - fallenraven (11/16/2014) [-]
ya it can be hard to change your outlook. lot of guys come back and everything just seems like shit or hopeless
+1
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User avatar #20950 to #20859 - donnybergerstory (11/17/2014) [-]
I don't think i am better than people in worse shape than me, but when you truly start to see youself working harder than those around you and you see yourself actually being passionate about fitness, you seperate yourself from the weak. Now I am not even in shape. I am fat as hell but I work harder than a lot of the guys at gym. I don't disrespect them or think lesser of them, I just think that I am a harder worker. Now, if you bully people simply because of that reason, then your a cocky asshole. But if you truly are great, and know you are better than most, you think higher of yourself, and you dont bully others, you try to help others to work as hard as you.
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User avatar #20894 to #20859 - leal (11/16/2014) [-]
That's what big brothers are for.
User avatar #20852 - pwnagraphy (11/15/2014) [-]
Every time I'm about to set a new PR on bench I fuck up part of my pec and have to leave the gym for a week

Every
Fucking
Time


I was at the gym with my friend and decided for bench I was gonna do 225x4-5 for straight sets. After a good warm up the first set I got to 5 without any problems, it was actually quite light. I decided to go for 6 for the rest of my bench. As soon as I hit rep 5 my shoulder felt like it had been stabbed and then suddenly went numb, and made a sound like velcro ripping. This isn't the first time either, it's been happening since May. Every time I try to do more than 5 reps of 225 this happens. I have no idea what explains it

It's only in my left shoulder too, in the spot where my shoulder meets my torso, a little above the armpit. I can't do any exercises until it heals. Bench I can barely pick up the bar, moving weights is awful, squat the pressure of the weight on my shoulder hurts so bad, and deadlift feels like my arm is being ripped off. The weird thing is when it does heal and I come back after a week of not working out at all, all my weights but bench go up day 1. Bench takes a few days to get back into, but my max goes up. However, my reps and rep weight don't


What the fuck
User avatar #20880 to #20852 - jokerjack (11/16/2014) [-]
Have you gotten an MRI? Sounds like a past tear, and the other shoulder muscles have worked together to make it fine in everything else, except for heavy load

MRIs are the easiest way to see tears, even small ones. They put some fluid into your shoulder that glows on screen, and if any actually gets into the joint you have a tear somewhere
#20855 to #20852 - baglesbites ONLINE (11/15/2014) [-]
That sounds like a serious issue, possibly rotator cuff. I would see a doctor is this is something that happens every few times you bench, in the meantime just let it rest as you have been because you should not injure yourself so often if you really are healthy. When you do come back you need to focus on scapular retraction and keeping your elbows tucked in to your sides. After I started doing this my bench started getting stronger and my shoulders felt a hell of a lot more stable.
User avatar #20858 to #20855 - pwnagraphy (11/15/2014) [-]
I've tried all of that. I've gone to 3 doctor, one said he didn't know and would need an X-ray to find out Oh would you look at that convenient $1,200 bill he placed right the fuck there one said I'm sleeping on my side wrong, and the other gave me an x-ray and said it looks like I have inflammation due to lactic acid building up but not being released. Muscle relaxers and sleeping on my back did not help

It's like once every 2 months, and when I come back somehow my max goes up but my reps go down, which makes no logical sense whatsoever. Last time it happened my max bench was 290 on a good day. I hit 315 very quickly yesterday, but 205 during warmup felt like the weight of the world

I don't mean to sound like a narcissistic prick here, but my form is perfect and I make sure of it every time I lift, because I don't want to get worse because of stupid shit. I've had it checked by a few powerlifters at my gym, a bodybuilder friend, a few videos, and I always record my first 3 warmup sets on my phone just to make sure.

It's fine right now, just the occasional pain during stuff like flys or Cable Tricep extensions. The part that really concerns me is all of my reps and maxes (Apart from bench reps, but bench max as well) all go up by 10-20 lbs after taking a week off and, because I have no self control, eating and sleeping like shit during my rest time. I have no clue what this means and I can't get any bloodwork or any real testing done because America health prices. I honestly don't mind it because my weights go up and I seem to unintentionally look better, but I'd like to know why I'm benching 315 but struggling with fucking 205x6
User avatar #20845 - lisreal (11/15/2014) [-]
I've just begun researching weight loss and such. Muslce mass is not a top priority, but if it can be done in the meantime, I'll take it.

I'm 5'7, fluctuate between 180-190lbs. I literally can lose between 5-10 lbs /week on diet. I eat mostly meat (grilled chicken) but I do eat a good amount of junk food. I limit soft drinks to 1 every other day or so. Other than that I drink low-sugar tea and 3-5 bottles of water/ day. I'm in college full time so the only exercise I get right now is walking around campus. My "diet" has always been eat what you want, but stay at 1600 calories, low fat, high protein. However, I want to KEEP the weight off this time. I have no weights nor gym memberships. I have a ~34'' waist (a little less) and I wear large shirts (medium is kind of tight due to shoulders, but large is baggy)

I'm trying to give a description of my size so you guys can visualize what some good exercises/ diets would be for me, especially with my money and time crunch. I really appreciate it. Thanks!
User avatar #20864 to #20845 - megasharkman (11/15/2014) [-]
I have very little time as well and have a weekly schedule of a run intervals of 100m sprint 100m jog for 3 miles, ab ripper x from p90x(piratebay), 4 max sets of pullups(pullup bar in my house), cardio x p90x, and a trip to the gym. Averages only 30 min on 5 days.
User avatar #20844 - derpityhurr (11/15/2014) [-]
Anyone else get sore achilles tendons from squatting? Only my right one does so its kinda weird
#20850 to #20844 - anonexplains (11/15/2014) [-]
i found that a change in shoe made a big difference for achilles tendonitis. you should also stretch them for about a minute per exercise before you do something that involves them. my particular favorite is Plantar Fasciitis/Achilles Tendinitis: Stretches To Do and Not To Do
#20846 to #20844 - KungFuZerO (11/15/2014) [-]
No but its probably due to weakness or tightness
Warmup properly, static stretch after, and get in some single leg calf raises
User avatar #20836 - thatonesouthernkid (11/14/2014) [-]
can donating blood affect your cardio for more than a day? I ask because a couple days ago I donated blood, and in the past three days I've seen my endurance go down the shitter from what it seems. does anybody know if by giving that blood away I lowered my red blood cell count or something? or do the negative side affects wear off after 24 hours? I only ask because my strength has fully recovered, and I can lift just as much as I could at the start of the week. But I don't seem to be able to run like I could a couple days ago. Is this all just in my head?
User avatar #20865 to #20836 - fallenraven (11/15/2014) [-]
yes, it depends on your body but for me I am slightly anemic. not much but when i was in basic training I donated blood on my 7th week and my pt test on the 8th week suffered terribly
User avatar #20842 to #20836 - lisreal (11/15/2014) [-]
I'm not very active, but when I donated blood I felt light headed for a day or so. They check your iron prior to donating to make sure you can handle it, plus you can't usually donate any more until a few weeks have passed. Your iron level is probably low as well as red blood cell so that is probably why your stamina is down.
User avatar #20848 to #20842 - thatonesouthernkid (11/15/2014) [-]
thanks dude, this was actually pretty fucking annoying. I got beat by a freshman in sprints today, fucker doesn't even know what some of the most basic lifts are.
User avatar #20834 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
Just had an old classmate of mine text me asking me for workout advice. He said I was his size in high school, then I "blew up". So now he's coming over tomorrow and I'm showing him the ropes. Should I have him a a pure starting strength routine or should I show him the front back legs split that I did when I first started with and saw success in? Obviously he's gonna be deadlifting benching and squatting no matter what and progressing in them.
User avatar #20881 to #20834 - jokerjack (11/16/2014) [-]
If you could go back to your newbie stage knowing what you know now, what would you do?

Tell him that stuff, whether it's the same or different
User avatar #20888 to #20881 - marinepenguin (11/16/2014) [-]
That's basically what I did.
User avatar #20835 to #20834 - thatonesouthernkid (11/14/2014) [-]
if he wants to get your level of fitness, I'd put him through the same training you did.
User avatar #20837 to #20835 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
Yeah that's true, but my way may not necessarily be the best way, or the best for him.
User avatar #20838 to #20837 - thatonesouthernkid (11/14/2014) [-]
well if you say he's going to be doing the basic muscle building exercises no matter what, then it could just be a matter of preference to either you or him. the question is who's preference is more important? you don't seem think one is significantly better in terms of a quality work out, so why not ask your friend which routine he'd prefer?
User avatar #20839 to #20838 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
I think that's what I'll do. I'll ask what his preference is. Because in my opinion as long as you are progressing in the main lifts its all the same.
#20832 - lordketchup (11/14/2014) [-]
Fit shaming is real.
User avatar #20843 to #20832 - lisreal (11/15/2014) [-]
I'm not terribly out of shape, but I could stand to lose a good 10-20 pounds. Good for the people in the picture though. I know people who work out all the time and make it their passion, but I've seen some roided out people too. But I will never hate on a person who strives to look like that. I know it's damn near impossible for me, and it's easier for me to eat and look like the people in the comments than to be "fit"
User avatar #20833 to #20832 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
Action offends the inactive, and hard work hurts the pride of those who don't work hard.
#20870 to #20833 - ablueguy (11/16/2014) [-]
But, my genetics...
User avatar #20831 - studbeefpile (11/14/2014) [-]
Spent a good 2 days pissing out of my ass. It was terrible. I felt like I was dying. I had no appetite, and I spend 2 days pissing out of my ass. Couldn't do shit, except shit, it was awful.

That's all over now though, and I feel great! Pulled 405 for a few singles, and benched my bodyweight (205) for 10 today. No PRs, but everything felt good!

Apparently there was something inside of my body that needed to be out of it. Its a good idea to do a cleanse every so often.
#20828 - amonamonamon (11/14/2014) [-]
I've been a lurker on this board for some time now. Thanks to the collective advice and encouragement from the users here, I've been successful in my own fitness/weight loss journey. For that I want to say thank you. Since summer ended I've already lost 3 and a half stone (about 60 pounds, right?) by cycling and exercising at home. I've never felt better, honestly, and a lot of it is thanks to you guys.

The thing is, I feel like I've reached a somewhat ideal weight for now. Since my initial goal was to lose weight, I've been focusing a lot on cardio...but getting up early to cycle is getting colder and darker, so I'm not enjoying it as much. It kind of leaves me feeling too tired to work, too. I'm worried that if I drop the cycling from my routine and just focus on strength training at home that I'll start putting all my lost weight back on. I don't have the money to start going to the gym, either.

So, does anybody have any tips that can help me keep the weight off over winter if I cycle less and exercise at home more? I wouldn't ask if I weren't a little concerned. This is the first time I've ever been in this situation, and I'd hate to ruin the results I've worked this hard for since summer.
#20851 to #20828 - anonexplains (11/15/2014) [-]
trying to do cardio in winter is extremely difficult. if you don't have a treadmill you could always do insanity (its mostly cardio) or you could run outside for a couple miles. in the end you will probably have to go somewhere like a gym to do it. personally i'd just do insanity for a week and find what cardio workouts you like best and order them into your own sets.

or just invest in an exercise bike.
User avatar #20830 to #20828 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
First off, not all weight is bad and neither is it all good, don't focus so much on the scale as much as what you want to look like. You could be 165 yet look like shit (skinnyfat) or be 185 and look lean and muscular. If I were you I'd start dialing it down in the cycling and focusing more on weight training. If the gym isn't an option, focus on pushups, leg lifts, pull ups, weighted lunges and box jumps. Stuff that you can do with minimal equipment.
User avatar #20826 - residentevilfan (11/14/2014) [-]
Best workout for a toned chest and abs?
User avatar #20829 to #20826 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
There's no such thing as toning. You either lose fat or build muscle.
#20847 to #20829 - KungFuZerO (11/15/2014) [-]
Or both
User avatar #20849 to #20847 - marinepenguin (11/15/2014) [-]
It's difficult to do both, because they're conflicting processes.
#20853 to #20849 - KungFuZerO (11/15/2014) [-]
But not impossible. You can lose fat and build muscle eating at a caloric surplus if you're diet is low in fat and your exercises are calorie burning like full body circuits.
User avatar #20854 to #20853 - marinepenguin (11/15/2014) [-]
I'm not denying that it's possible. But is it a viable strategy for a beginner? No. It's more for advanced lifters.
#20857 to #20854 - KungFuZerO (11/15/2014) [-]
Thats the opposite of the truth haha. Beginners with excess body fat should start with high rep ranges and full body exercises to build a solid foundation and lose excess weight. This is basic periodization.
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User avatar #20862 to #20857 - marinepenguin (11/15/2014) [-]
I agree with you, but I'm not talking about fat people when I think of beginners. I think of skinny skeleton mode guys.
User avatar #20861 to #20857 - marinepenguin (11/15/2014) [-]
When you are overweight you can build muscle while running on a caloric deficit, I'm talking about people without excess body fat. If you are 200 pounds at 8% body fat you aren't going to lose fat and gain muscle the same way that someone who's 240 and 30% body fat would.
#20863 to #20861 - KungFuZerO (11/15/2014) [-]
Oh ok, that makes sense. I figured since OP mentioned "toning" he probably had excess body fat.
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#20825 - anonexplains (11/14/2014) [-]
How do I get sexy like the Sauce?
User avatar #20840 to #20825 - derpityhurr (11/15/2014) [-]
eat sauce
#20804 - anonexplains (11/14/2014) [-]
what the fuck is happening with my body?? I'm horny all the time fucking time. I fap and 20 minutes later i wanna fap again. What the fuck. this started a week or 2 ago.
my older post: www.funnyjunk.com/fitness/20681#20681
dude i even considered I'm becoming fap addict. Im scared. Never had this happen to me, even when i was going through puberty.
User avatar #20841 to #20804 - teoberry (11/15/2014) [-]
bruh it's normal. im in the same situation as marine and i still jerk off like 3 times a day. its hormones. you're fine
#20860 to #20841 - anonexplains (11/15/2014) [-]
thankyou
User avatar #20812 to #20804 - thisismyhandle (11/14/2014) [-]
Well, I think (read: believe that I heard once) that you usually get at least a bit horny right away after you ejaculate because, back in the day, you would probably be getting it in with all kinds of females instead of just one, seeing as our ancestors almost definitely had alpha male-type hierarchies back then.

That's just a small part of it though. Like penguin said, young dudes are supposed to be horny all the time. You just have to learn to control yourself a bit. Masturbation isn't intrinsically bad for you, but just like anything else, it becomes an addiction if it interferes with other aspects of your life and you are only concerned about the next time you are going to masturbate.

Your other post said that you have to jerk it around four times every day, right? I would just try to distract yourself as much as possible and try to wane yourself off of it. I've had days where I have this kind of feeling really bad, and they kind of came and went up until I took a break for about a week from anything sexual. I actually was surprised at how helpful this was in bringing my body back to a "horniness equilibrium." I would try this and see if it helps.

Also, I know you said that you have been sleeping more, but how much more? Also, can you think of anything else that has changed in your diet, workouts, stress, etc.?

#20823 to #20812 - anonexplains (11/14/2014) [-]
2 more hours than i usually do
7h -> 9h
it just surprises me that my body is changing so quickly so randomly
what the fuck
User avatar #20824 to #20823 - thisismyhandle (11/14/2014) [-]
Huh, well I would bet that the extra sleep probably isn't the cause, but weirder things certainly have happened.

I don't really know what's happening, but I would just try to handle it until it goes away. You said it has already been two weeks, so I would only give it another two weeks at most before you go ahead and see your doctor about it.
User avatar #20807 to #20804 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
Dude I'm 19, I have a girlfriend to do shit with,and I'm like this too. Welcome to young adulthood.
#20822 to #20807 - anonexplains (11/14/2014) [-]
tfw no gf
User avatar #20777 - jokerjack (11/13/2014) [-]
So bit of an update with where I am. I kind got cleared to lift 2 weeks ago after having shoulder surgery in August. I'd been doing bullshit like leg presses and ham curls ect during that time but obviously that doesn't have shit on free weights.

I re-started back at a 3x5 of 315 for deadlift, but while my legs were able to do it I didn't feel my core was tight enough as that had atropphied more. Dropped t0 275 for the next workout and today I did 5 sets of 3 @ 295. I'm going to keep this 10 pound weekly progression as it's a long marathon not a sprint, and my future is a bit shaky with gym time until February. Thanksgiving break, I graduate from school, have 3 weeks off, start full time last week in Jan, ect.

I can't back squat at the moment. Maybe in another week or two I'll have the range of motion to externally rotate my shoulder back to hold the bar there, or maybe I'll just wait on that until January. I've been front squatting which hasn't been a staple of my workouts in the past. Went lightweight to get form, only at 155 now but really really like the amount of depth I can get and fluidity of 3 sets of 5. Again, 10 pounds per week increase.

I've been lifting each of those twice a week with something like 3x10 dumbell lunges for added volume. I'll increase the weight of which lift I do first that day, and the one I do second has the same weight as the prior workout. Really liking this progression scheme.

Does anyone know of what an approximate percentage of back squat (high bar) to front squat weight is? I have no reference point. This feels like getting real deep on 225 back.

Over the next week or two I can carefully get back to bench, ohp, and pull ups so I'm excited. Now if only I could stop stress eating with classwork so that I can be at a comfortable weight to do a solid bulk in January. Hoping to be back to fighting at lightweight this summer. Getting a buddy ready for his first fight made me really miss it
User avatar #20787 to #20777 - marinepenguin (11/13/2014) [-]
Don't underestimate your bodies ability to recover. You'll bounce back, just learn from previous mistakes. Matt Kroc tore his quad once, needed surgery to fix it, then squatted 1000 pounds for a PR 7 months later. The guys a genetic freak but it's still a good example.
User avatar #20796 to #20787 - jokerjack (11/14/2014) [-]
Jesus Tapdancing Christ. That's amazing. I have no doubt I'll get numbers back to where they were and beyond with obviously legs and then bench and press as well in the gym. My only concern is the goofy things. Like today, I reached into the back seat to pick up my gym bag ~ 15 pounds at an odd angle and it twinged my shoulder. The idea of throwing a baseball still seems like it wouldn't work, and strength in a clinch isn't there but I'm really hopeful for those being back to not so noticeable in another 3 months. Only thing I'm convinced won't be 100% is that rotation back. They tightened up the labrum, so I mean maybe in 2 or 3 years? But it'll probably always be 90% at what my left can do.

I'm curious how aggressive or slow and steady I should be with getting my squat and dead lift back? Pre surgery training rep weight was 405 dead and 315 squat. Right now I'm about at 295 dead and was gonna start 225 squat. Doing that with 10 pounds per week will mean 9-10 months til I'm back (likely I'll slow at 385 dead and 295 squat tho) or should I bump up the weights already? I can't attest to squat, but I know I could do 5x3 with 355 dead and positive at least 255 squat 3x5 and those would have me on the close to failure with the last set.

Would I be better off starting back light as I am or jumping up? Definitely going to be taking it extremely easy on the upper body lifts.
User avatar #20800 to #20796 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
You really shouldn't have any issues with lower body lifts at all. Only thing I can think of would be properly gripping the bar. I'd say to just jump up 10 pounds every workout on the lower body, the focus on light weight but more volume for upper body to help recovery.
User avatar #20803 to #20800 - jokerjack (11/14/2014) [-]
Yeah, was gonna be doing weight I can do 3 sets of 10 with on the upper body. And no shame using the assisted pull up machine until I can at least get 8 of those again.
User avatar #20806 to #20803 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
The assisted pullup machine sucks balls dude, do band pull ups instead. I read an article recently that was saying that and I've seen the same guys using that machine for years not getting any better at pull ups.
User avatar #20808 to #20806 - jokerjack (11/14/2014) [-]
I don't see how it would be any different than bands? I can set it to just basically lift up on my knees with 10 or 20 pounds to take a little off. Bar is the same and I believe would get the same full motion.
User avatar #20810 to #20808 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
www.t-nation.com/training/strengthen-your-strict-pull-up

This is the article I was reading, Thibaudeau is a pretty knowledgeable dude. He trains IFBB pros and newbies alike.
User avatar #20813 to #20810 - jokerjack (11/14/2014) [-]
ALright. T-Nation is very hit or miss on articles. Some stuff is excellent, some is utter broscience but it all depends on the author of course. I really see what he's saying about the moving body through space, at my gym you can get head above bar, but he's got a big long article and only briefly mentions the assisted. I'm very against machines, but I think this one would be ok. Also largely because I don't think we have bands long enough for this anyway at my gym so my option is however many reps of full pull-ups I can do (which I don't know how my shoulder will take), lat pull downs, or assisted pulls.

That 3 dimensional space thing I'll have to feel giving it a go myself. That's definitely a problem, but not sure if more or less than forcing to do full force pull ups.
User avatar #20815 to #20813 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
I've been there for about a year now, I know the authors who are good and the authors who are shit. From my experience and my opinion, Thibaudeau is probably the best guy on the site to listen to, the vast majority of my training has been taken from his articles and they've worked wonders for me. Rippetoe has good stuff and the guy who made 5/3/1 also has good stuff.
User avatar #20817 to #20815 - jokerjack (11/14/2014) [-]
Yep. That's a big thing is figuring out who knows their shit, that way if something new comes across that possibly challenges what you already thought, you know if it should be listened to or disregarded.

If you ever want a nutrition person to have the "yep, he knows his science" about it's Alan Aragon. The guy is a bit abrasive in his hatred toward fad diets, those that promote them, and those who go on food scare campaigns but it can be pretty funny as he is the ultimate bro when it comes to trolling comments. The guy's base is just going by purely scientific studies for both nutrition and training. No "I've seen this work before for people"

I think he got kicked off T-Nation by ripping hard into someone who said the only way to lose weight was by going low carb.
User avatar #20819 to #20817 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
Reminds me of Rippetoe but on the exact opposite side of things. One big thing that I've came across is the conflict between anecdotal evidence and scientific studies on certain things. Rippetoe has really torn into the science part of things and will straight up challenge certain findings. He hates the "10 minute abs", "big pecs in 10 weeks", and "shoulders like boulders in 3 months" articles. He'll point to his hundreds of successful clients and own personal lifting experiences way before he points to some journal study or a guy with an exercise science degree for reference. Which I can agree with, the vast majority of guys I've seen with an exercise science degree could barely bench their own weight on their best day.

So I think anecdotal evidence shouldn't be ignored, but actual scientific studies shouldn't be ignored either.
User avatar #20752 - nigalthornberry (11/13/2014) [-]
After sleeping outside for a week I noticed I've got more energy
User avatar #20763 to #20752 - jokerjack (11/13/2014) [-]
This is an example of a tiny sample size and not isolating variables in an experiment folks
User avatar #20748 - manflino (11/13/2014) [-]
so, im 5 ft, and i weight 221 pounds, im already on a diet and going to the gym, any advice on a routine that helps me lose weight and build muscle.

Sorry if i misspelled, im not from the US
User avatar #20764 to #20748 - jokerjack (11/13/2014) [-]
Just whatever you do, pick something you can live with as a lifestyle change. Better to have slow progress for 6 months, a year, years, than to go hard and fast and burn out in 2 weeks and be back to what led you to become overweight in the first place

Eat healthier, it's not rocket science. Move more. If you can find a way to lift weights that'll help tremendously. Your body has a use it or lose it reaction to muscle retention when in a caloric deficit. Do some stuff for a good few weeks, and then ask again for specifics if you want to improve your routine. Just remember to never ever give up
User avatar #20773 to #20764 - manflino (11/13/2014) [-]
thanks, this is a change i habe been planing for a while now, im finaly putting my shit together.
#20739 - anonexplains (11/13/2014) [-]
Any advice for stretch marks?
User avatar #20765 to #20739 - jokerjack (11/13/2014) [-]
They fade with time, but unfortunately you're going to have to get along with them. Truly, they aren't that ugly. They just show that a past you existed and that's not 100% you anymore
User avatar #20788 to #20765 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
Or in my case and others like mine, you gained an insane amount of muscle in a short period of time.
User avatar #20792 to #20788 - jokerjack (11/14/2014) [-]
I've got ones where my shoulder connects to my chest at the pec. Happened when I broke my leg in hockey in highschool and I was benching and overhead pressing 3 days a week because why not. I still have a crazy bench because of those 4 months in my prime where all I was doing was upper body day, eating, and resting.

I also have some on my inner thighs, that I think is 50% muscle and 50% fat caused. I somehow lucked out and didn't get any around my midsection although at one point I deserved it. Worried about this next round of loss with loose skin since I dropped weight and then filled it back out again
User avatar #20795 to #20792 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
All of mine are on my ass and thighs. That's the area I literally exploded in in a super short period of time. I've gone up like 4 jeans sizes. People always yell "dat ass" at me.
User avatar #20797 to #20795 - jokerjack (11/14/2014) [-]
There is a serious market to be made in making a brand of Jeans called "Squatters"
User avatar #20798 to #20797 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
Right? I only fit in relaxed fit these days. But I'm starting to outgrow them. After that it's only fat jeans where the waist is huge. That'll be the day I wear sweatpants only.
User avatar #20802 to #20798 - jokerjack (11/14/2014) [-]
Met up with someone who has bigger squat and deadlift than me (although he weighs 25 pounds more and I don't think his last 15 were all that great in a power to weight ratio), but he was bitching that 38 waist jeans with a belt down to his size sucks cause of the overlap. I told him he needs to find a different brand, gotta be something still in 36 that fits the thighs and then the belt isn't as ridiculous.

This is the guy taking a fight next month.
User avatar #20805 to #20802 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
I know a guy who gets a special brand ordered called zipper or something. Kids 6'5 and a stick so he gets them specially made. Wonder if they'd make them for squatters?
User avatar #20809 to #20805 - jokerjack (11/14/2014) [-]
Dude, if this engineering thing doesn't work out for me I need to open a sweatshop in China making jeans for us and calling it Squatters. They'd sell if I could keep the prices down. We gotta buy our copious amounts of chicken and brown rice after all
User avatar #20811 to #20809 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
Wait wait wait your going into engineering? Same here brah.

And I'd buy your jeans, I'd support you.
User avatar #20814 to #20811 - jokerjack (11/14/2014) [-]
Yeah. Electrical Engineering. I graduate right here in December. Already got a job offer accepted (accepted it last March actually. So nice knowing I only need to pass classses and not get As or Bs anymore haha) and I start that the last week of Jan.

Michigan Tech is my school. The Tech is short for Technological University, but just telling people I go to a tech they think i'm like a mechanic or electrician or something.
User avatar #20816 to #20814 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
Awesome, I haven't even gotten an associate's yet so who knows what could happen. I don't know what kind of engineering to go into though. That's great though man, good luck with that. I about 2 states away down in Illinois.
User avatar #20818 to #20816 - jokerjack (11/14/2014) [-]
We just get Bachelors of Science here. No Associate's beforehand. About all the engineering disciplines are good. If you go Civil though with the military you'll be stuck building bridges for life lol
User avatar #20820 to #20818 - marinepenguin (11/14/2014) [-]
Well I'm going to a community college that has a co-op situation with a bigger 4 year school, so I'll get my 2 year degree here then transfer directly to the 4 year school to get my bachelors.

I crossed out civil engineering for the military a loooong time ago. That was a job that was available at my base for the Guard, and I qualified for it, but the guys their said they mainly just repair the roads and sidewalks on base, and that sounded boring as fuck. I've been told to go into Petroleum engineering, but that's long hours and a ton of travel, but also 6 figure salary right off the bat.
User avatar #20821 to #20820 - jokerjack (11/14/2014) [-]
Yeah, I'm good friends with a girl who's an officer in the National Guard. She's 1st Lieutenant of and engineering division, and although her major is Chemical Engineering, they still get her and her group to do all sorts of roadwork because that's what engineers do in the military

Go chemical engineering rather than petroleum. Majority of oil companies will hire chemicals for their petroleum positions, and this gives you more options as well if you don't want to move to Alaska or North Dakota for the oil. It is a fuck ton of money. I thought of working for Schlemburger, they had spots open for EEs especially because I have a lot of Controls experience
#20756 to #20739 - anonexplains (11/13/2014) [-]
various creams exist for them like retin-a, but there are no guarantees. i heard cocoa butter can help, but none of the ointments are immediate would take years. there are also lazer procedures that exist.
User avatar #20746 to #20739 - marinepenguin (11/13/2014) [-]
Learn to get along with them.
#20743 to #20739 - tremuzik (11/13/2014) [-]
My friend, I lost all my weight my 7th grade year. My freshman year of HS I started working out. I'm now beginning college.

My stretch marks are still here, and I've learned to embrace them. They're my tiger marks. lol
#20742 to #20739 - rety (11/13/2014) [-]
lose weight and keep it off for a long time, and they may heal
other than that, nothing
#20747 to #20742 - anonexplains (11/13/2014) [-]
sheit, thanks anyway
User avatar #20749 to #20747 - cptmongtard (11/13/2014) [-]
You can use bio oil or maybe chia/cocoa butters and oils but they are not guaranteed
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