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User avatar #13045 - mrnappy (03/07/2014) [-]
Admin, what have you done?
User avatar #13037 - chokinandtokin ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
Hi, I have a questions about abs. I can feel them under my belly fat and I want to know how to make them more visible, I know that it's a diet and losing the fat there but I'm already underweight (Im 19 and male) Is it because I have a small frame? I started eating just bananas/meats and other fruits and grains, if I continue this will I see some results? And if so, how long?
User avatar #13129 to #13037 - nsfwcontent (03/10/2014) [-]
Cardio for fat loss, go for runs.
Other option is to make your abs bigger, do some sit ups or other abdomen exercises.
User avatar #13040 to #13037 - mrnappy (03/07/2014) [-]
How do you have belly fat if you're underweight?

Anyway, everyone has abs, just like everyone has biceps and you can feel them doesn't mean they're big/strong/powerful etc. You just have them

Work abs more, cardio will build a strong core
User avatar #13103 to #13040 - wiredguy (03/08/2014) [-]
everyone has belly fat

fat itself is pretty ubiquitous

when you have visible abs, it's not because there's no fat, just less, and with more built up muscle underneath

you know this, I'm sure
User avatar #13071 to #13040 - chokinandtokin ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
Yeah, I know right?
I guess I'll just keep doing ab exercises, and try more cardio.
User avatar #13077 to #13071 - badgerbaiting ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
To make muscle more visible, one must cut. Try Scoobies work shop for cutting meal plans. However, don't cut unless you've bulked up over winter. If you wish to remain skinny but get ripped, try swimming.
User avatar #13079 to #13077 - chokinandtokin ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
I haven't bulked, and I have a small frame.
I can't swim.
User avatar #13097 to #13079 - badgerbaiting ONLINE (03/08/2014) [-]
Certainly not with that attitude. I kid. Seriously though, there is no way to spot reduce fat on your body. It is the whole thing or not at all. What is your target?

In regard to abs work out I usually go with Russian twists x30, bicycles crunches x15, plank 1 min then repeat for 4 sets. I also do obliques (the muscles on either side of the abdominals) but a weight is required for these.
User avatar #13098 to #13097 - chokinandtokin ONLINE (03/08/2014) [-]
Im trying to target stomach fat to get rid of.

Yeah, for abs I've doing toe touches and weighted crunches mostly and I've been doing side bends with dumbbells.
User avatar #13099 to #13098 - badgerbaiting ONLINE (03/08/2014) [-]
You can't target certain areas. It's impossible to spot reduce. You've got to eat well and at a calorie deficit (i.e. more out than in) while exercising well. I recommend long distance running for losing mass. It strips the meat off your bones.
User avatar #13100 to #13099 - chokinandtokin ONLINE (03/08/2014) [-]
Yeah, It's just I weigh 114 so Im already really skinny yet I still have fat covering the abs, I mean I can feel them but I dont think I will ever see them, it's the only body part that I can show off and be noticeable other than my biceps.
User avatar #13107 to #13100 - mrnappy (03/08/2014) [-]
Yes, yes just work abs and cardio now gtfo
User avatar #13039 to #13037 - suddenk (03/07/2014) [-]
Do cardio to burn fat
User avatar #13088 to #13039 - the one and only (03/08/2014) [-]
You should also have explained that he can't target the fat on his belly, cardio burns random parts of fat in your body.
User avatar #13032 - clusterfuckk (03/07/2014) [-]
Weird question regarding calluses. Does anyone else only have three? I don't have one under either one of my pointer fingers, and I've been lifting for a long time now.
User avatar #13101 to #13032 - ehzio (03/08/2014) [-]
I did get that for some times, but i eventually got my callouses on my index finger just by gripping the bar a bit tighter. I also developed a straight line of callouses on my palm right below where the fingers callouses would be
User avatar #13048 to #13032 - unncommon (03/07/2014) [-]
One on each finger (except for thumb) and two in my palm.
User avatar #13036 to #13032 - thisismyhandle ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
Index finger callous master race

I have four on each hand. I wonder, why is there a difference?
User avatar #13035 to #13032 - bababadsheep (03/07/2014) [-]
Yes, holy fuck, yes. Thank you for mentioning this, I have been feeling like a freak. Now I know I am not alone.
User avatar #13033 to #13032 - lolpandas (03/07/2014) [-]
Now that you mention it....
User avatar #13006 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
thanks to work, teaching, and time for fight prep I haven't had enough time to make it to the gym as often as I would. Anyone here into pure calisthenic workouts? I'd love to get some ideas of shit that I can just throw out between classes, between jobs, at home without having to set a full hour and a half for the gym.
User avatar #13041 to #13006 - mrnappy (03/07/2014) [-]
Yea, i could help. How crazy?
I'ma go to bed, i'll help later
User avatar #13046 to #13041 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
I'm already pretty fit. can do plenty of pushups, can do up to 10 handstand pushups on a wall and can throw out 8 muscle ups with minimal kip. but i wanna know what other workouts I can do of this variety
User avatar #13055 to #13046 - mrnappy (03/07/2014) [-]
Hanging back lever
Front lever
Back lever chin ups
One hand pushups
Pistol squats
Hanging windshield wipers
Dragon flag
Human flag
The list can go on forever
Try to get into a handstand without the wall (then do hand walks and pushups)

If any of these exercises gets too easy while doing it slowly do it faster

There's also this insane move first you do a front lever, then a muscle up, and finally a plance, then you try to reverse it
User avatar #13057 to #13055 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
I can front and back lever but cant planch. keen to get to that point, my core strength rocks but my arm strength not so much
User avatar #13058 to #13057 - mrnappy (03/07/2014) [-]
Planche is more shoulders than tri or bi
Do progression
User avatar #13059 to #13058 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
oh really? my triceps are strong. my biceps are terrible (martial arts background and biceps dont help punching) but my shoulders seem to be the hardest to improve. any suggestions for shoulder progression?
User avatar #13060 to #13059 - mrnappy (03/07/2014) [-]
Ye, (don't worry about biceps, they tend to grow side by side with triceps. Or you could do different variants of pushups and do chin ups in stead of pull ups)

Ye, so the progression is You need to login to view this link
just scroll a bit down, it'll help you do handstand too
User avatar #13061 to #13060 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
thats awesome. I can tuck planch so now i know what to work next. my chinup strength is pretty solid. i jsut wanna make it a more rounded set of calisthenic skiills
User avatar #13062 to #13061 - mrnappy (03/07/2014) [-]
User avatar #13063 to #13062 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
the progression list
User avatar #13064 to #13063 - mrnappy (03/07/2014) [-]
Yea, are you asking me something?
You should only move up a level (on stands) if you can hold for over a minute
User avatar #13065 to #13064 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
thats a decent enough benchmark. i dunno if i could hold it for a minute
User avatar #13066 to #13065 - mrnappy (03/07/2014) [-]
You have to hold the previous one for 1 min, and to move up hold for a minute.
User avatar #13056 to #13055 - mrnappy (03/07/2014) [-]
*front lever pull ups
not back lever chin ups
User avatar #13049 to #13046 - unncommon (03/07/2014) [-]
Pistol squats, dive bombers, plyrometric push-ups/pull-ups, yada yada. Go on YouTube and look up variants of pull-ups and variants of push-ups.
User avatar #13053 to #13049 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
ok cool I'll have to look up dive bombers. thanks man
User avatar #12995 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
I'm going to frequent here because it's about the only place that won't call me a faggot for my wanting to talk about weights/martialarts
User avatar #13011 to #12995 - badgerbaiting ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
Go to /fit/. Y-you too.
User avatar #13018 to #13011 - bababadsheep (03/07/2014) [-]
No one calls anyone a faggot on /fit/ because being a closet gay is assumed if you go there.
User avatar #13020 to #13018 - badgerbaiting ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
I'm bisexual, so that works fine for me.
User avatar #13021 to #13020 - bababadsheep (03/07/2014) [-]
I only occasionally dabble in acting like a faggot, my powerlevel is limited compared to yours. No homo.
#13025 to #13021 - badgerbaiting ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
I need a version of this that says "Some of the homo".
I need a version of this that says "Some of the homo".
User avatar #13026 to #13025 - bababadsheep (03/07/2014) [-]
I'm to lazy to go find that section of the video on youtube and make a gif of it. Sorry man, don't got the energy.
User avatar #13029 to #13026 - badgerbaiting ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
I'll do it... later. Sleep time now.
User avatar #13027 to #13026 - bababadsheep (03/07/2014) [-]
You understand that I meant to write "too".
User avatar #12998 to #12995 - kallesyndrom (03/06/2014) [-]
Lifting and martial arts? Are you doing MMA?
User avatar #13002 to #12998 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
I train in, and teach an amateur mma class but compete in jiu jitsu, and kudo (japanese mma) havent fought in the cage yet
User avatar #12997 to #12995 - zaywoot (03/06/2014) [-]
what martial arts do you do and for how long?
User avatar #13003 to #12997 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
boxed for 7 years as a kid but and also did a variety of styles but never with enthusiasm. been training full time (5-6 days) for about 5 years now in muay thai, brazilian jiu jitsu, a non-traditional karate, and sports mma
User avatar #13007 to #13003 - zaywoot (03/06/2014) [-]
I did traditional jujutsu for some years when I was younger, a small stint (1½ year) doing bujinkan and then started goju ryu karate, which I'd call my primary martial art... I also do some weight training to enhance karate
User avatar #13017 to #13007 - bababadsheep (03/07/2014) [-]
ikkyu meibukai faggot here. What's good mang? You got that sick as fuark Sanchin yet? Respond, I wanna chat it out since we both lift weights and do the same style.
User avatar #13051 to #13017 - zaywoot (03/07/2014) [-]
Yeah I practice sanchin a lot if that's what you mean, pretty much everyday.
Did four hours of hojo undo yesterday as well as sanchin
User avatar #13008 to #13007 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
our club started as a goju ryu but they slowly added stuff from other styles into the karate curriculum until it was clearly no longer goju ryu. still, i love any kind of martial arts.
what belt are you?
User avatar #13009 to #13008 - zaywoot (03/06/2014) [-]
2 kyu, so brown belt with a stripe... only 1 kyu and then 1dan (black belt)

My prior experience in martial arts helped me a lot with karate, even though they were mainly grappling oriented
User avatar #13034 to #13009 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
nice. I'm doing shodan (first degree) on the 30th of this month.
User avatar #13052 to #13034 - zaywoot (03/07/2014) [-]
How does it differ from traditional goju ryu?
User avatar #13054 to #13052 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
we use a reformed stance that keeps your fists on your face for protection, we introduced the first 16 judo throws into different levels of the curriculum as well as combination throws and counters, every grading has a wrestling/grappling aspect that covers takedowns and ground grappling, we included a lot of the hand parry techniques from kungfu for grab defences and use a bunch of muay thai elbows and knees as well. just a huge amalgamation of great aspects of other styles.
User avatar #13068 to #13054 - zaywoot (03/07/2014) [-]
Also, you might like this video


It's about white crane boxing, the kung fu that goju sprang from, also features a nice bit with Morio Higaonna
User avatar #13070 to #13068 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
ill give that a full watch this weekend man that looks cool
User avatar #13072 to #13070 - zaywoot (03/07/2014) [-]
It's a pretty cool series overall, lots of different kung fu
User avatar #13067 to #13054 - zaywoot (03/07/2014) [-]
Hmmm... well, it would obviously be easier to actually see the difference rather than just read it, but goju does have a bunch of elbow and knee strikes, and at least where I practice we practice throws and ground grappling a bit (not as much as you make it sound like you do)
About the stance, is it kinda like a boxer stance? with the fists close to your face? because I do keep my hands up, at around chin height, but slightly away from my face...
Roughly described, kinda narrow stance, elbows tucked in, hands at chin level, personally I like having open hands, palms towards oponent, I like the open hand parrys... I also feel like I'm tensing up too much if I keep my fists closed the entire time.

And what are the kung fu parries like?

In autumn I went to a muay thai class, I was thinking of finding a different place to practise from where I did goju, I liked the more practical way of training, but I felt uncomfortable with the muay thai techniques, I felt like karates way of kicking and punching felt more natural to me, maybe just because I was used to it...
I did end up switching to a different goju ryu dojo though, with more practical training but still being goju
Old place didn't have quite the same mentality towards training as I do, they did stuff very much by the book, and lacked with practical training IMO, also shared the location with other sports so they couldnt put up equipment or anything...
New place suits me a lot better, just gotta drive further...
User avatar #13069 to #13067 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
our stance is shoulder width wide and deep with back heel up both knees bent for fast movement, hands on the cheekbones fisted but not clenched and elbows in. its a very protected stance but still allows plenty of offensive moves. the kungfu parries are very similar to gojuryu blocks but continue onwards with hook style grips and open hand taps. think of shisochin (if your club uses any variation of it) in directional changes with the verticle hand waves. that shit but all directions
User avatar #13076 to #13069 - bababadsheep (03/07/2014) [-]
Your form seems to focus a lot on protection from big attacks and powerful attacks. I'm kinda curious, how would you rate your sensitivity, small joint manipulation and, ehhh I guess I will just say, kime? As a meibukufag, we (my dojo) focus more on ju waza than go waza, and I am curious what you would rate your emphasis and skill with ju waza.

User avatar #13085 to #13076 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
we dont focus so much on big attacks, at each level we learn a punch, kick, knee, elbow, a common block, and a traditional hand strike (spearhands n stuff) and at for each of those you need to know an absorb, evade, and deflect. generally most people when sparring would go purely absorb but once you get to the higher levels your sparring is expected to have gentle parries for both soft and hard techniques. in prep for shodan grading though i've learned more about sensitivity than ever before.
User avatar #13091 to #13085 - bababadsheep (03/08/2014) [-]
Yeah, going from ikkyu to shodan is always super intense no matter the dojo, I feel for you, hell I nearly died at my ikkyu testing when I did sanchin for half an hour at varying levels of tension, and a grand finale of the master and my senpais slapping the shit out of me while I did the kata. I can't even begin to imagine the hell I am going to have to go through for my shodan certification. Noticed you talking about those kyokushin guys below, that's fun to do as long as you don't fall into their game. They got a hella short ma'ai and push into your space hard, if you got the footwork for it, keeping distance and throwing kicks to their inside to slow them down is usually pretty solid. But god DAMN are they hella tough guys, I never wanna get into a slugging match with those fellas.

Ah, it is fun to talk on a knowledgeable level about martial arts. The only other talk I usually get outside of my dojo is a friend on the school wrestling team, and a second degree black belt in taekwondo, and both of their focuses are way to different from mine. This was nice man, I'll hit your profile up in the future some time.
User avatar #13096 to #13091 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/08/2014) [-]
yeah man its good to talk to people who know the style or at least a similar based style. part of my shodan is stick as well (we have a diff weapon for each dan level) and thats probably what's caused me the most injury lately, though only because im tarded with a stick
User avatar #13073 to #13069 - zaywoot (03/07/2014) [-]
Right I know shisochin.

hmmm, interesting
any experience with full contact?
User avatar #13084 to #13073 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
our club has entered students into the state kyokushin bare knuckle tournaments but personally my only experience with it was helping those guys prep (because I was on brown at the time) or the occasional regular old street altercation
User avatar #13086 to #13084 - zaywoot (03/07/2014) [-]
Never been in a street fight before... Which I'm fine with... Mostly...

I've been thinking of entering a kyokushin tournament at some point, I just need to run it by the dojo first to see if they're ok with it, and then obviously prepare.
What sorta stuff did you do to prepare the fighters?
User avatar #13087 to #13086 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
a shittone of body conditioning. some of those kyokushin guys will lean on you and hold themselves up with a super fast flurry of punches to the chest so you need to be ready to cop it in the body hard. headkick speed is another thing because its a good way to win early. that and prep against somebody who fights both orthodox and southpaw. I fight both which helped with the prep because quite often in kyokushin when someone switches stance they are about to throw something crazy like frontflip axe kicks and stuff like that. so its good to be able to identify the stance change straight away and throw something first. i.e. snapping frontkick and cut your angle with a stepoff cause once they commit to those crazy techniques they've lost line of sight with you. our guys entered the kyokushin tournament in our state and because we arent a kyokushin club they welcomed us with open arms but flew in the european champ to fight our guys to make sure a kyokushin person one. very proud bunch of people with a never quit attitude
User avatar #13102 to #13087 - zaywoot (03/08/2014) [-]
My only issue with kyokushin is how a lot of them are arrogant... At least the ones I've met have all been arrogant bastards, dismissing any karate style that isn't theirs as "pretend".

But yeah, I've seen some of the stuff they do
User avatar #13110 to #13102 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/08/2014) [-]
very aggressive people but lets face it. they probably can't cop a simple punch in the face after all those years of only body shots.
User avatar #13116 to #13110 - zaywoot (03/09/2014) [-]
That's the issue of only training towards the same style of tournament all the time,
In any video you see of kyokushin tournaments, none of them has their hands above the shoulders
User avatar #13050 to #13034 - zaywoot (03/07/2014) [-]
User avatar #12996 to #12995 - zight ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
im jk bro calm down. conceal, don't feel
User avatar #13004 to #12996 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
lets hug this one out
struggle snuggle!
User avatar #13038 to #13004 - snuggle (03/07/2014) [-]
pls no
User avatar #12994 - Fabianz (03/06/2014) [-]
Young powerlifter here
17yo 5'11" 75kg
95kg BP
160kg squat
200kg DL
All stats are RAW.
Anyone want to talk about powerlifting or give me some tips to improve my shitty bench feel free to reply or leave a comment on my profile.
User avatar #13005 to #12994 - tripscausedthis ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
2scared2login was right. I am 82kgs, current 1rep max bench is 120kg used to be 135kg and most of that strength came from regular pushups by the hundreds
User avatar #13081 to #13005 - Fabianz (03/07/2014) [-]
Will add them to my routine
#12999 to #12994 - anonymous (03/06/2014) [-]
Don't underestimate calisthenics. Push-ups helped me improve my Bench.
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#12992 - anonymous (03/06/2014) [-]
I haven't self-harmed for over a year, and I've recently started getting back into shape. The problem is that the more I work out and exercise, even though I feel better physically, the more the urge to self-harm seems to arise. It's as if both aspects are tied to my self-image and I'm not sure what to do.

I'm not even sure If there's anybody out there who can relate
User avatar #13042 to #12992 - mrnappy (03/07/2014) [-]
You're testosterone level be rising. Find another outlet, honestly after you come back from 1 hr in the gym you should be so tired you want to sit down for 1/2-1hr.

tl dr; burn yourself out in the gym
#13000 to #12992 - anonymous (03/06/2014) [-]
Stop being a fag
User avatar #12968 - niggagary (03/06/2014) [-]
Alright FJ, 18 year old male, about 282 pounds, would like to drop down to about 190-ish. I own a gym membership (Planet Fitness is all I can afford so no real opportunities to lift here) I work nights about 4 times a week so I have to eat something fast on break. I have school during the day. I would like advice on a good meal plan for the week (work has healthy options but I don't know the calories) Help meeee
User avatar #13043 to #12968 - mrnappy (03/07/2014) [-]
Everyone is asking the same question/seeking same advice.

1. Spend couple minutes just reading some of the posts here
2. Go on /fit/ on 4chan and lurk
3. Google

Also, what's your budget?
User avatar #13078 to #13043 - niggagary (03/07/2014) [-]
I probably can only spend 50-80 a month
User avatar #13080 to #13078 - mrnappy (03/07/2014) [-]
Eat fruits, like apples, pears, peaches, and bananas
(blue berries are also awesome) whenever you're hungry

Also, keep a tuna sandwich close by (use half the can for one sandwich)
#12961 - Mward (03/06/2014) [-]
I'm trying to build upper pectorals, as well as just make my chest look "Bigger" but I also want to get rid of the last little bit of fat I have on my stomach to show off my abs. Any suggestions on what I should do? Is it possible to do both at the same time?
#12987 to #12961 - anonymous (03/06/2014) [-]
Ignore all that shit below OP. Do lifts that include flexion of the arms and put you at some sort of incline.

Incline BB bench, incline DB bench, incline DB flys, or cable flys. Find which works best for you and use it. Focus on the mind-muscle connection and getting a good contraction on the upper pec. Don't neglect your main compounds though, those are necessary for eliciting the hormonal response that makes you grow.

The guy below is the exact reason why I no longer go on forums for advice and read up books written by experienced coaches instead. Sorry for derailing your thread.
User avatar #12966 to #12961 - urinarytractinfect (03/06/2014) [-]
remember, flat bench will NOT build your chest. cables are your friends. its not all about freeweights. of course u can do some free weights but really. say fuq you too ego and do wut works. decline, incline, flys, and squeezing movements. since u want to build, make sure to only do your heaviest weight. but make sure to do a few sets for a warmyup. then go do ur heavy. only for a few sets. and low reps. then next week do even more weight. HEAVY WEIGHT BUILDS MUSCLE! and make sure to eat goddamit. if ur poor then dont think ur going to build without food. u will however have some sexy amoiunt of strength. really feel your chest and learn ur muscles too. have fun alpha male in training kid.
#12970 to #12966 - anonymous (03/06/2014) [-]
> flat bench will NOT build your chest

Biggest load of bullshit that's proliferated in the online lifting community. Traditional flat barbell bench press with a standard grip will use the mid pectorals, anterior deltoids, and triceps. It's a unique exercise because you can change which muscle group does the majority of the work by changing grip distance. Grip wider for more chest activation.

To answer your question OP, try incline dumbbell press, incline flys, or upward cable flys.

User avatar #12972 to #12970 - urinarytractinfect (03/06/2014) [-]
since you want to throw links around you can get this one and shove it straight up your anon fatass.www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvQho3EsxzM
#12973 to #12972 - anonymous (03/06/2014) [-]
Are you actually this autistic, or do you just not lift?

I included that link for OP so he could learn an exercise that builds the upper chest well. The flat bench press, just like any other compound barbell movement, works several muscle groups at a time and stabilizer muscles. It does in fact work the chest, especially when you utilize a wide grip. It his part of the lower pec and bar of the upper pec, i.e. the mid chest.

You should have also probably watched the video you linked. Elliott says the bench press isn't necessarily the best chest exercise. This obviously means that other exercises exist for better chest stimulation.

>Getting this offended
Nice use of ad hominems. Really shows what type of guy you are in the gym.
User avatar #12975 to #12973 - urinarytractinfect (03/06/2014) [-]
bro slow down and really read ma shit. he said xactly th same stuff i said. the op wants a big nice sexy chest, not a full body ripping homo workout. he wantssCHEST
#12976 to #12975 - anonymous (03/06/2014) [-]
No he didn't. He said the bench press doesn't necessarily build a bigger chest which is true depending on how it's done. He says there are other chest isolations out there that focus more on chest development rather than strength development.

I've seen the video tons of times. Elliott also constantly proliferates the idea that you should question everything and form your own ideas. He's said that you may not even want to listen to him since he contradicts himself often. The bench press works the mid chest region and any non retard who knows anything about strength training knows this.
User avatar #12978 to #12976 - urinarytractinfect (03/06/2014) [-]
how many times do i have to tell you, i said that flat bench does not isolate ur chest, of fuqing course its going to work it but its not going to build it at all. dont matter if you go gillitien, or go wide, ur not squezing it. however if you get dumbells on flat bench you can actually see improvements on building. just stop confusing people because you obviously are still learning about muscle and wut works and wut not works, ive been throught it all and i know, so dont relive my past and other pasts just take this damn advice and fuqing do it.
#12980 to #12978 - anonymous (03/06/2014) [-]
"flat bench simply does not fuqing build the chest"

That's not saying that it doesn't work the chest? Really?
Of course it doesn't isolate the chest. I clearly said it's a compound movement. Do you isolate every muscle group that you work?

I'm not reliving anything because I've actually read a few books. I also don't do a bro-split. Jesus, you're too misinformed to even talk to.
User avatar #12983 to #12980 - urinarytractinfect (03/06/2014) [-]
yes i isolate every muscle i specificaly workoit on a specific day. its called building muscle mass, you however do ful dy workout type of stuff. neither of us are misinformed, you however are talking about building when you dont know.
#12984 to #12983 - anonymous (03/06/2014) [-]
>Doing a bro-split for optimal mass gains

Lmao, you must get all your information from muscle magazines huh? Enjoy making no where near the gains you could make on a split as a natural lifter.
User avatar #12971 to #12970 - urinarytractinfect (03/06/2014) [-]
flat bench simply does not fuqing build the chest. nor does it even specificaly target it, or isolate it. dont be so sure of your self. its mainly an ego excersize. however once you decline it or inclne it, then your now working it much more than flat. all i am saying is to not JUST do flat. make sure to use that bench and bar for other postitions, and to not be fooled by high school dumbass weight training teachers, and other children.
#12974 to #12971 - anonymous (03/06/2014) [-]
I'm relatively sure of myself because I've actually spent tons of time reading up on the biomechanics of the bench press. It's the least functional and most useless of all compounds, but it does work to get you stronger. Decline bench is trash and weighted dips are superior. Incline bench has some function for certain sports and works well to develop the upper chest.

I know the bench press works chest because, oh get this, I do it and it's built my chest

Who'd have though.
User avatar #12977 to #12974 - urinarytractinfect (03/06/2014) [-]
u cant possibly expect to disprove me by saying you do flat and you built ur chest, obviously you know and do other chest workouts, and think that flat bench built it. i used to think that decline was abunch of boshi too because thats what everybody told me and thats wut i kept on reading. but it turns out that it actually does work your chest and its even better than flat. but however if you want a great chest workout i would really focus on cables.
#12979 to #12977 - anonymous (03/06/2014) [-]
>u cant possibly expect to disprove me by saying you do flat and you built ur chest, obviously you know and do other chest workouts

Wow, how ignorant can a single person be? I low-bar squat, deadlift, OHP, Pendlay row, and flat bench. Other than those compounds, I do glute-ham raises, lying tricep extensions, chin-ups, and curls. No other chest exercises. I train for strength, not size.

Decline works the lower pectoral and not much of the rest of the chest. Fucking read a book nigga
User avatar #12981 to #12979 - urinarytractinfect (03/06/2014) [-]
so there you have it, you dont build you just want strength, that being said why in the FUQ would you give advice on building when you dont build nor want to build.
#12982 to #12981 - anonymous (03/06/2014) [-]
You just keep saying dumber and dumber shit. Size comes with strength even when strength is the focus and vice versa. I just told you I've built my chest while doing flat bench for strength. I want to build size, but strength is currently my main focus.

I'm giving advice because I actually know what I'm talking about and am not using strawman arguments or consistently changing the direction of my arguments like you are.
User avatar #12985 to #12982 - urinarytractinfect (03/06/2014) [-]
i havnt changed anything about my argument. you dont want mass you want strength. you will only build so much mass if your goal is strength. simple as that book reader.
#12986 to #12985 - anonymous (03/06/2014) [-]
>Start off by saying flat barbell bench doesn't work chest at all
>Move on to using ad hominems and linking a video that doesn't help your argument
>Change to saying that flat bench does work chest, but doesn't isolate it
>Go on to tell me that I actually don't only do flat bench for the chest mass I've gained when I in fact do
>Go on to ignore the fact that I just proved you wrong by saying that I know nothing since I train for strength

Yeah, you've changed your argument several times.

>you will only build so much mass if your goal is strength
Which is why every successful powerlifter, weightlifter, and strongman is jacked as fuck huh?
User avatar #12989 to #12986 - urinarytractinfect (03/06/2014) [-]
hey im sorry if i pissed u off, i just know from experience. i live around my bodybuilding family and have built for five years. im actualy done with building now i just let people know my knowledge. if u dont want to listen then thats all you, i hope you have a nice body building experience and make sure to warmup them joints before any workout, i dont want another kid hurting themselves out there. have fun
User avatar #12965 to #12961 - tooscaredtologon (03/06/2014) [-]
couple of exercises for the chest would be to suppliment your flat bench with incline and decline. cable flys help and if you do an arnold press on an incline bench instead of a 90 degree bench it hits your upper chest along with shoulders which will make your upper body pop a bit more
#12951 - anonymous (03/06/2014) [-]
Being in grade 9. I know having a body is something a "Sexy" chick wants. so. I've started working out. I've done everything i can. Push ups. "P.A.C.Room" Everyday. Can't get rid of this stomach. And im not allowing myself Supplements. Any ideas as to how i could lose it?
User avatar #13022 to #12951 - bababadsheep (03/07/2014) [-]
Read the sticky on /fit/.
User avatar #12990 to #12951 - brotify (03/06/2014) [-]
User avatar #12991 to #12990 - brotify (03/06/2014) [-]
and if you're drinking soda, energy drinks etc. stop with that
User avatar #12933 - dangskippity (03/06/2014) [-]
Whats a good way to gain muscle mass instead of just definition? My arms are pretty cut but small and i dont know how to change it
User avatar #13044 to #12933 - mrnappy (03/07/2014) [-]
6-12 rep range is for building mass (3 sets of course)
User avatar #13024 to #12933 - bababadsheep (03/07/2014) [-]
r u a skeleton? If so, bulk and lift big.
User avatar #13012 to #12933 - clusterfuckk (03/07/2014) [-]
Eat high protein and high calories. eat, eat and more eat.
Sure big arms look nice, but you have to train the whole body, don't only focus on arms. Keep the reps from 4-8 reps. High sets, low weight is the way to gain muscle.
User avatar #12967 to #12933 - urinarytractinfect (03/06/2014) [-]
building arms takes a verry long time. make sure to do warmups then do ur heaviest weight and low reps. do this a few sets and be done. use the easy curl bar, or cables. there is no supplement that will build you like that. you however being young is filled with testosterone, so that helps biiiig time. if u keep up wut i told you by the time ur in 10th you would have gained alot of strength and some size, you might also want to get your forearms alk cut up with veins and all that nastyness, girls will be all over your alpha ass. get the curl bar and sit down, put ur arms on ur legs straight, and use ur hands to do a lil curl flexing ur forearms. do lots of reps to get that blood flowing and to slowly gain big nasty veins. google vids on this so u can better understand ma dumbass
User avatar #12936 to #12933 - lolpandas (03/06/2014) [-]
#1 food.
#2 heavy ass weight.
User avatar #12938 to #12936 - dangskippity (03/06/2014) [-]
Ive tried eating a lot, generally i can eat about 4-5 pounds a day but I lose it all by the next day, im stuck at about 120 pounds and im 5 foot 10
User avatar #12939 to #12938 - lolpandas (03/06/2014) [-]
Learn how to count your calories better. If all else fails GOMAD (gallon of milk a day).
User avatar #12941 to #12939 - dangskippity (03/06/2014) [-]
Alright, thanks for the help, and ive heard that doing more weight and less reps adds more bulk and less weight but more reps adds better definition, is that true?
User avatar #12946 to #12941 - lolpandas (03/06/2014) [-]
There is more to it than that, I posted a picture below that kinda outlines it for you. Heavy weight and low reps for strength. Medium weight with moderate reps for mass. For definition i'd go with the strength routine. It gives you hard, dense muscle instead of the soft mass look.

Light weight and high reps is usually for endurance but I'm split on that issue.
User avatar #12949 to #12946 - dangskippity (03/06/2014) [-]
And is curling 40 good for my size? And sorry if im buggin ya
User avatar #12952 to #12949 - lolpandas (03/06/2014) [-]
This is the fitness board man, ask anything you need. 40 each arm or on a curl bar? If it's the first, yea. The largest my arms got were 16 inches and I was curling 40-45lbs.
User avatar #12953 to #12952 - dangskippity (03/06/2014) [-]
Yeah, each arm but I can only do about 3 reps
User avatar #13015 to #12953 - clusterfuckk (03/07/2014) [-]
I may be wrong, but doing 3 reps of 40 lb dumbbells on each hand is extremely impressive for a guy who's 120 lbs. Just a guess, but I think you might be swinging your elbows and body while doing, engaging back and traps into your curl. That's why you're not seeing results. Look in the mirror the whole time while curling, and if you see your body, elbow or shoulders move at all, drop the weight until you do perfect form. Then it'll grow
User avatar #13016 to #13015 - dangskippity (03/07/2014) [-]
Nah, I do them sitting and my elbow stays on my thigh
User avatar #13023 to #13016 - clusterfuckk (03/07/2014) [-]
Do you extend your arms until they are completely straight? To engage the entire bicep, while standing for example, curl the weight, slowly bring it down until your tricep flexes, and repeat. Similar story while sitting down, except you only need about 160 degrees, not a complete 180
User avatar #13028 to #13023 - dangskippity (03/07/2014) [-]
instead of going to a 180 degree angle I only go to like a 160 because my arm goes to like 190 and im scared im gonna mess something up if i put to much weight on it while its like that
User avatar #12956 to #12953 - lolpandas (03/06/2014) [-]
Lower the weight, stick to higher reps.
Here's where that "more to it than that" comes in. Compound lifts(bench, squat, deadlift, etc) benefit more from changing around weight and reps (reps vs weight), but when dealing with isolation lifts like curls, stick to the higher rep range of 8-12 and shift the weight accordingly.
User avatar #12958 to #12956 - dangskippity (03/06/2014) [-]
Alright, and thanks a lot
User avatar #12927 - merfmerf (03/06/2014) [-]
Can i just do push-ups, jog and other other training exercise to get a good result? Or is it recommended to get equipment/ get a gym membership?
User avatar #13014 to #12927 - clusterfuckk (03/07/2014) [-]
It matters what type of results you want. If you want to get lean, yes. If you want to gain muscle, it's all about weight training
#12988 to #12927 - theoriginaltyson (03/06/2014) [-]
You can get ripped doing body weight exercises if you do it right
User avatar #12969 to #12927 - urinarytractinfect (03/06/2014) [-]
if you seriously dont want to be in the gym and not use equipment, you can get some size without it. marines get decent size from doing what they do without equipment. make sure to have three full meals a day. and have pt once a day. simple pushups, pullups, cardio, stretches, leglifts, crunches, mountain climbers, and all sorts of other marine workouts Will get you looking super sexy with some size.but not huge size. just google marine pft competitions and see how hard they train, and copy it. hell if u want go and get recruited, or join a marine junior rotc.
User avatar #12929 to #12927 - thinkwithportals ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
what kind of result?
User avatar #12930 to #12929 - merfmerf (03/06/2014) [-]
I'm looking for mass, i am already training at a gym, but i feel uncomfortable doing so. I've started eating mutant mass, and i am training. So mass wherever there ain't on my body.
I actually want to get really wiry, and not that great off mass.
User avatar #12935 to #12930 - thinkwithportals ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
wiry means you probably want to do more cardio than lifting. Although It's still very important to get enough protein, diet is everything
User avatar #12937 to #12935 - merfmerf (03/06/2014) [-]
Is this an assumption or do you speak of experience?
User avatar #12940 to #12937 - thinkwithportals ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
Experience, but I seemed to start working out for a different reason. I started June 2013 and was 5'9" and 130 pounds (skinny). Now, I'm the same height and 155 pounds, still pretty small but stronger. For a period of time I stopped gaining weight even while I was drinking two protein shakes per day (120 grams). I've started eating much more and consequently gain about 5 pounds in a month.
User avatar #12942 to #12940 - merfmerf (03/06/2014) [-]
Nice work man, keep it up! And thanks for your help !
User avatar #12944 to #12942 - thinkwithportals ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
thanks bruh. By the way, what are your height and weight?
User avatar #12947 to #12944 - merfmerf (03/06/2014) [-]
6'2" and 163 pounds.
User avatar #12950 to #12947 - thinkwithportals ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
damn you could be a monster. guys over 6' are intimidating when fit
User avatar #12954 to #12950 - merfmerf (03/06/2014) [-]
Yeah, guess they are. And that is actually all i want to be, intimidating. I'm so fucking sick and tired of getting in trouble, i honestly don't know how, but i always manage to get there. I'm not a man of violence, i fucking hate that shit, but if i can give a good ass-whooping to people who consists of wrongdoing, then i'd love that!
User avatar #12955 to #12954 - thinkwithportals ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
Honestly, if you're tall and big you probably won't get in fights because you look like you can give an ass whooping haha
User avatar #12957 to #12955 - merfmerf (03/06/2014) [-]
Haha, that would be pretty awesome!
User avatar #12923 - zzforrest (03/06/2014) [-]
I'm new to the fitness world - I'm trying to lose weight, already working on my diet. I take a 30 minute walk every day and exercise, but I really just need some help.
First of all, what time of day is it best to work out?
Second, I don't have the ability to go to the gym every day. I don't have my own car and my parent's schedule doesn't work in my favor at all. Basically, I'm stuck with working with what I've got at home.
Third, I don't have any weights and I'm poor as fuck. I have to do exercises that can be done without weights or machines.
Any help?
User avatar #12964 to #12923 - badgerbaiting ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
Lose weight= cardio- that's proper cardio like running, calorie deficit. Also why are you on a gaining powder like mutant mass. Just whey protein will do.
User avatar #13001 to #12964 - zzforrest (03/06/2014) [-]
You might be confusing me with another comment, I'm not on any mutant mass or whatever.
User avatar #13010 to #13001 - badgerbaiting ONLINE (03/07/2014) [-]
Would appear so. My apologies.
User avatar #12928 to #12923 - lolpandas (03/06/2014) [-]
Time doesn't matter. Eating and exercising isn't dependent on the position of the sun and the moon, do it when you can and when it's most convenient to you. Look up calisthenics for 2 & 3.
User avatar #12931 to #12928 - zzforrest (03/06/2014) [-]
Any specific routines / sites you can point me to for calisthenics?
User avatar #12932 to #12931 - lolpandas (03/06/2014) [-]
Eh, I lift weights more than anything so I wouldn't be the guy to ask. Others on this board are probably more familiar with it.

Youtube helps
2 Calisthenics Workout Routines (Beginner/Intermediate)
User avatar #12934 to #12932 - zzforrest (03/06/2014) [-]
Thanks m8, happy lifting.
#12922 - lolpandas (03/06/2014) [-]
I don't agree with all of this but it's a good base for the uninformed.
#12910 - dreamzz ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
Would it be smarter to invest in a Gym membership, or order personal equipment for my own use?   
The Gym membership costs more in the long run, but has more equipment than what im willing to get for me personally, as well as trainers   
Personal equipment costs less i guess, and i get to do it in my home
Would it be smarter to invest in a Gym membership, or order personal equipment for my own use?

The Gym membership costs more in the long run, but has more equipment than what im willing to get for me personally, as well as trainers

Personal equipment costs less i guess, and i get to do it in my home
User avatar #13030 to #12910 - bababadsheep (03/07/2014) [-]
That fucking gif.

What. The. Fuck.
User avatar #13013 to #12910 - clusterfuckk (03/07/2014) [-]
I'd say invest in a membership, in the long run it costs more, yes, but you can be doing the movements wrong and never know it if you're home alone. Plus a spotter is a great thing to have when going heavy.
User avatar #12921 to #12910 - mondominiman ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
I say gym membership. As you said, it has more equipment, and a great atmosphere. Plus you can learn new workouts by watching others. Unless you plan on getting jacked and you already know what you're going to do then personal equipment is the way to go. The only downside I can think of is you get side tracked easier
User avatar #12919 to #12910 - lolpandas (03/06/2014) [-]
I've spent well over 2 grand on my home gym and I'm still not done with it but I love the hell out of it. You're pick but take into account that if you ever bail out of fitness you are out money even if you resell it and also that as you improve you will have to buy more weights/equipment.
User avatar #12869 - natanhiel (03/05/2014) [-]
Hello fitness, I apologise right now for my shit lifting amount.

I'm 5'11 and about 210 lbs, lost some weight recently.. Got some dumbbells from a friend, he didn't need his old pair any more. It contains this.. Note, all the weights are cast iron.

2x 1KG Spinlock bars with spin locks
4x 2.5KG Weights
4x 1.5KG Weights
4x 0.5KG Weights
All in all, 20KG, or 10KG per bar if I halve them to each bar

I can do 3-4 KG moderately easily for a high amount of reps
5-6 for about 20 reps, this is difficult though
7-8 I can do for about 10 reps while wearing my arms out for several minutes after
9-10 is hard for me to do even 5 with
No idea if these are good amounts of weights, but I'm not here to be judged either

Which would be best for me to do? Multiple easy reps, a smaller amount of okay reps, an even smaller amount of challenging reps, or a tiny amount of very difficult reps?

Thanks for any help in advance.

Also, my friend gave me some weight lifting gloves for wrist support.

I need to do cardio but I'm doing that by walking/running. Easy.

Just so you know, I'm not bothered about "whoa bro ur chiselled and toned".. I just wanna be strong.
User avatar #12899 to #12869 - badgerbaiting ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
You will need supplements. If you're aiming to lose weight, get some whey protein. It will help improve recovery and life without it hurts like a bitch.

Weightlifting gloves may seem like a good idea initially, but will cripple you when you come to lift heavier weights. Drop down, higher reps, until you feel comfortable, then push.

Also remember to work different muscle groups on different days. e.g. back and biceps day 1, chest and triceps day 2, rest day 3, legs day 4, shoulders and abdominals day 5.

Please ask if you need any ideas; it's excellent for my ego.
User avatar #12901 to #12899 - natanhiel (03/06/2014) [-]
I need many idea. The only time I've ever worked out is my walking for the past two months.

What's whey protein, and what does it do?

I might drop to sets of 20-30 reps with 4-6 KG.

Should I be doing fast reps, or will slow reps work better?
User avatar #12907 to #12901 - badgerbaiting ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
N.B. these excercises should be superset (e.g. a set of chest excercise followed by biceps)

Day 1: Chest and Biceps
•Bench press/ Bar curls 4x8
•Incline Bench Press/ Incline dumbbell curls OR Decline Bench press with seated curls 4x8
•Cable Flies/ Cable Curls OR Dumb bell Flies/ Hammer Curls 4x8

Day 2: Legs
Dead Lifts, Squats, Leg Press 4x8 of each.
Calf Raises (seated or standing) 4x12

Day 3: Day off

Day 4: Shoulders and Abs:
Military Press (or over head press), Arnies, Shrugs 4x8 of each.
Bicycle Crunches (4x20), Russian Twists (4x30), Obliques (4x8)
DO NOT superset; Do shoulders; followed by abs.

Day 5: Back and Tris
Y Grip pull-ups/ Triceps dips 4x8
Seated Cable Rows/ Cable pull downs 4x8
Skull Crushers/ Lat Pull downs 4x8
User avatar #12905 to #12901 - badgerbaiting ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
For building strength, one needs low reps with high weight. Also make sure you do sets (for example; I tend to go for 4 sets of eight, unless I'm going for larger weights.)

Whey protein is a high protein powder mixed with water to form "shakes". These can get a bad name due to roiders and the the fact they do tax the liver (so does consumption of alcohol) but they are nigh on essential. They reduce recovery time, encourage muscle growth and reduce the amount of pain you'll feel in the shape of DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness).

I've not heard much about speed of reps, so go with what feels comfortable.

I'll add my work out plan in another comment.
User avatar #12906 to #12905 - natanhiel (03/06/2014) [-]
So you'd recommend Whey Protein, even if it damages my liver? I dunno man.

Also I'd want one of those nifty shake bottles I see weight lifters with.

Good lord they're nifty.

Would I really need Whey for casually lifting 10KG dumbells?
User avatar #12908 to #12906 - badgerbaiting ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
Now now, no need to be condescending. I'm merely offering advice I was offered when I started lifting. If you don't want the advice feel free to ignore it, but try not to sound so patronizing. Gift horses, mouths etc.
User avatar #12909 to #12908 - natanhiel (03/06/2014) [-]
I wasn't trying to be patronizing, just concerned. Liver damage doesn't sound fun yo.
User avatar #12911 to #12909 - badgerbaiting ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
In that case the best advice I can give you is do your own research into the matter before making an informed decision. I also have an apology to make; I was mistaken, whey protein doesn't damage your liver as much I thought, but there has been ongoing debate about the effect of excess protein in ones diet. I should further note that I am on supplements that need to be broken down in the liver, but I have given up drinking, so it balances out.
User avatar #12913 to #12911 - natanhiel (03/06/2014) [-]
I don't drink, so meh.

I can get 900g of the whey protein plus a nifty shaker thing for £10, about $13. Sound worth it?
User avatar #12914 to #12913 - badgerbaiting ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
If you're in the UK, I'd recommend
You need to login to view this link

If not, search around; I'm certain there will be an online delivery service near you.
User avatar #12915 to #12914 - natanhiel (03/06/2014) [-]
Well I have a £10 off coupon for amazon. May as well use that up.
User avatar #12918 to #12915 - badgerbaiting ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
Oh and try reading the sticky on You need to login to view this link Some good ideas about diet etc.
User avatar #12916 to #12915 - badgerbaiting ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
Look through the above website for ideas. I'm going to sleep now. Any further queries will have to wait. Good luck with whatever you're aiming for.
User avatar #12917 to #12916 - natanhiel (03/06/2014) [-]
I'm going to sleep too. Thanks for all the help.
#12872 to #12869 - tooscaredtologon (03/06/2014) [-]
sorry bro. amerifag stuck in the imperial age of lifting and weighing
User avatar #12875 to #12872 - natanhiel (03/06/2014) [-]
I assume you use lbs then?

20KG is about 44 lbs
So 10 is 22
5 is 11
#12878 to #12875 - tooscaredtologon (03/06/2014) [-]
if all youre looking for is strength go heavy for good form and lower reps. if its too heavy go lower alot of it is form over reps or weight. i wouldnt say just focus on one. hit up some supersetting so hit op the heavies and then after a very short break hit up something lighter. youll see the pump instantly and feel it more than you would doing either alone. weights are nice but its gonna come to a point where those arent gonna be enough so you can always throw in push ups and pull ups for some different style.    
as for the weight gloves, i dont think youll be needing them for this weight.   
at any weight theyre not really necessary unless youre trying to do some deads and dont have the grip strength. calouses are good for you
if all youre looking for is strength go heavy for good form and lower reps. if its too heavy go lower alot of it is form over reps or weight. i wouldnt say just focus on one. hit up some supersetting so hit op the heavies and then after a very short break hit up something lighter. youll see the pump instantly and feel it more than you would doing either alone. weights are nice but its gonna come to a point where those arent gonna be enough so you can always throw in push ups and pull ups for some different style.

as for the weight gloves, i dont think youll be needing them for this weight.
at any weight theyre not really necessary unless youre trying to do some deads and dont have the grip strength. calouses are good for you
User avatar #12879 to #12878 - natanhiel (03/06/2014) [-]
Well without them my wrists move a lot and end up hurting, so I've just been wearing them for that. I guess I'll try to control my wrists a bit more.

So you'd recommend I do a set of 10 reps with the 44 lbs, then cut it down to around 22 and do a much longer set for endurance?

I do squats with my 33lb weight bag, it just feels MUCH more comfortable than the dumbbells.

I was considering getting a barbell, but that + weights sounds expensive and difficult to store.
User avatar #12881 to #12879 - tooscaredtologon (03/06/2014) [-]
supersetting is the way to go so exactly the way you put it. dont forget about one of the most useful tools you have for exersize, your own body weight- push ups dips the whole nine yards. squats with the bag are good but you can also do lunges with the dumbells to switch it up and get some more weight.

im actually a big proponent of muscle pharm and you can usually find some good arm workouts from them that dont require too much equipment
User avatar #12882 to #12881 - natanhiel (03/06/2014) [-]
Googled muscle pharm and meh, I'm not really looking to go that deep into it yet. I'm just trying to strengthen for now. I'm going into security guarding work soon, so I need to look stronger, feel stronger, and be stronger.

So far, dumbbells, barbells, and my body weight seem like the best ways to go.

Except the storage and price of barbells. Especially cast iron ones. I don't trust vinyl sand shit.
#12883 to #12882 - tooscaredtologon (03/06/2014) [-]
have you looked into the ajustable dumbells where you use the crank to set a weight and it only picks up a certain amount of weight? those can cut down on storage space
#12884 to #12883 - natanhiel (03/06/2014) [-]
I just got some old fashioned spinlock dumbbells. It's a 6'6 barbell bar I'm worried about, not a tiny dumbbell set.

These are what I have.

I'm hammer curling while I browse imgur.

Don't tell anyone I browse imgur
User avatar #12885 to #12884 - tooscaredtologon (03/06/2014) [-]
you dont really need a barbell. you can do the same exercises with dumbells and a bench
User avatar #12902 to #12885 - badgerbaiting ONLINE (03/06/2014) [-]
Disagree. I think they're essential for dead lifts and squats.
User avatar #12887 to #12885 - natanhiel (03/06/2014) [-]
I don't have a bench either. Mostly been using bed/floor.
User avatar #12888 to #12887 - natanhiel (03/06/2014) [-]
I'm a very casual lifter right now
User avatar #12890 to #12888 - tooscaredtologon (03/06/2014) [-]
casual is how you start out my man.
Floor is fine it just wont get you full range of motion (bar/dumbell to chest level)
but hey i know plenty of guys who half rep and are still pretty strong or aesthetic
#12891 to #12890 - natanhiel (03/06/2014) [-]
Well I'm a fat weakling right now.

I just don't ever want to look like THIS.

He has nothing on his fucking lower torso. It's like his body forgot to put any mass there.

I'd rather be looking like this; (Continued in another post. Can't post two pics.)
User avatar #12894 to #12891 - tooscaredtologon (03/06/2014) [-]
dont worry about looking like that just do waht ya can. itll all work out
#12893 to #12891 - natanhiel (03/06/2014) [-]
This. I know I'll never be a strongman, but I mean I more want the look of being wholly strong, not just toned and ripped.
User avatar #12866 - mahgaypants (03/05/2014) [-]
I've got about 6 months to make my body ready for college sports. 6'2" and 280lbs last I checked. I've got a fair amount of expendable income so I can get shit if it'll help me get admin status jacked. Anyone have a routine they can suggest?
User avatar #12873 to #12866 - tooscaredtologon (03/06/2014) [-]
need to know your bodytype (builtfat, bearmode, or just a large human being because of that weight) and what sport bro
#12877 to #12873 - mahgaypants (03/06/2014) [-]
I'm mostly just a large person but I'd say builtfat if I had to pick one.
User avatar #12880 to #12877 - tooscaredtologon (03/06/2014) [-]
sprints for cadio. On season thats mostly waht theyre going to test you on and wahts going to matter play by play.
youre gonna want to do some power lifting mostly on the leg quadrant. after all most of the tackle and football skills are based on leg strength.
get them deadlifts squads calf raisers, the works, in for that
on the other hand you dont want that upper body to go to shit. your gonna need to fight some motha fucking bitch opponents off! make sure youre getting that upper and lower chest with the incline and decline bench not just the flat bench along with flys
bis and tris are pretty self explanatory but dont forget those forearms
set yourelf a schedule. specific days for specific muscles. If youve got the time and the money, get them two a days in morning and night and stack creatine with protein. if youre trying to get some serious mass to throw around get some mass gainer instead of protein powder and go hard
User avatar #12886 to #12880 - mahgaypants (03/06/2014) [-]
Sounds solid. Anything you can recommend for the supplements?
User avatar #12889 to #12886 - tooscaredtologon (03/06/2014) [-]
9/10 times its all the same crap.
you can use any trusted creatine.
if you just want protein powder some stuff i really like taht comes in a lot of flavors is teh musclepharm combat powder. currently im using Syntha 6 protein powder and its not bad.
If your going for serious mass go for something called up your mass we used to sharpie out the M or ive heard the musclepharm Arnold series mass gainer is pretty good
you can always go to your local GNC the guys working there are usually pretty cool and will shoot the shit about suppliments with you
User avatar #12948 to #12889 - mahgaypants (03/06/2014) [-]
So, for the lifts, 5x5? 3x5?
Seems like something I should feel out for myself and adjust accordingly.
#12836 - tripleaaayyyeee (03/05/2014) [-]
Any olympic weightlifters selling a pair of ironwork 3s or 2008 adistars? been trying to find pairs on ebay or craigslist but so far none. PM me
User avatar #12847 to #12836 - unncommon (03/05/2014) [-]
Explain to me again the benefits of wearing weightlifting shoes instead of no shoes/Vibram Five-Fingers.
#12852 to #12847 - tripleaaayyyeee (03/05/2014) [-]
Not sure if you're trying to be condescending at all but Increased stability, being able to squat lower, being able to push more out to the side of the show for hip activity. I also dig into my heels a lot when I squat/catch my cleans in a front squat.
User avatar #12855 to #12852 - unncommon (03/05/2014) [-]
I kinda am kinda ain't. I don't use em, but that's just me. I think that it'll help develop better if you run through the full ROM w/o help imo
#12857 to #12855 - tripleaaayyyeee (03/05/2014) [-]
I completely understand. I normally only use them for my competitions and when I do my oly lifts, but for everything else I have a pair of Adidas Nizza Hi (like chucks). I'd go no shoes, but my gym doesn't allow it
User avatar #12861 to #12857 - unncommon (03/05/2014) [-]
Oohh, you do competition? I'm Jelly. I wish that I had an Oly Gym near me, I'd rather do that than anything else. What kind of gains have you noticed and how long have you been Olying?
#12960 to #12861 - tripleaaayyyeee (03/06/2014) [-]
I don't do oly competition, I do a powerlifting competition that happens twice a year at my uni. Wish I did oly but I don't have a coach/program to follow. I started in high school with the most horrible form, stopped due to knee problems, then I brought em back into my "programming" during my freshman year in college. I constantly watched calstrength, previous olympics, and attitude nation videos on youtube for form. My deadlifts and squats have increased from me working on my hip thrusts for cleans, (I primarily use a hip drive for my conventional deadlift and lowbar squats so there's not too much pressure on my spine) and I've noticed some growth in my quads, traps, and shoulders. You could always go to a crossfit warehouse gym and oly there, I have a friend who opened one up and even though I don't do the crossfit workouts with them, he lets me do my oly workouts there
User avatar #12835 - spyisspy (03/05/2014) [-]
ITT: lifting
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