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User avatar #14782 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
Going from working out 5 to 6 days a week to working out every other day make me really jittery. But it also makes me really pumped up whenever I do actually get to work out.
#14780 - thedavster ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
hey guys,i was wondering if someone could tell me some good exercises to get rid of the "love handles" im a guy and im thin(im a swimmer) but ii cant get rid of those.thanks
User avatar #14826 to #14780 - beatmasterz (07/03/2014) [-]
Eat less and lift overall. Don't try to "target" the fat because that's bullshit.
#14827 to #14826 - thedavster ONLINE (07/03/2014) [-]
ok(sorry for my ignorance)but lifting weights will help me to lose weight or just making my upper body wider?
User avatar #14828 to #14827 - beatmasterz (07/03/2014) [-]
It does both. Lifting weights in combination with cutting is your best bet.
User avatar #14785 to #14780 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
You just have to lose fat to get rid of those. That's all they are. And don't work out your obliques, they'll make you seem thicker and make your love handles pop out more.
User avatar #14793 to #14785 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
This so much.

I see people with a 45 plate on their side, and they claim its to lose their love handles.
It makes me laugh, and cry a little every time
User avatar #14797 to #14793 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
Or women that want a slim and tiny waist and do 1000 crunches a day. They don't realize that doing exercises at such high volumes like that is going to increase your muscle mass like no other.
User avatar #14800 to #14797 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
You do have to give them some sort of credit though, but unless you're a kinesiology major (like my best friend is), most people don't know how to work out properly, which is a shame. Since a simple google search and 30 mins should be enough for you to figure out the proper way to do things.
User avatar #14803 to #14800 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
Yeah it's true. Most people are just ignorant to how the body reacts to stresses and how it all works. I actually considered studying kinesiology at one point.
User avatar #14807 to #14803 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
My friend loves it, he wants to be a personal trainer. As in a legit one, not the ones walking around in most gyms that went from desk attendant to "trainer" as a promotion.

He's my height at 5'11, but while I'm 140-142lbs, this guy is about 190 lbs

If you really like it you should consider it
User avatar #14809 to #14807 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
I have really thought about being a personal trainer, considering I could be good at it. But I'd rather be an engineering officer in the Air Force, make a lot of money, then have connections when I get out and make 6 figures outright.

Maybe someday I'll open my own warehouse gym and train some kids. Still, right now it would be more of a hobby and to hone my own skills to apply to myself.
User avatar #14811 to #14809 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
At least you got a plan and that's what matters
#14788 to #14785 - thedavster ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
i see...but what is weird is that i was really fat,then i lost a lot of weight and got very thin getting rid of all the fat im my body except for those,so im afraid that maybe i cant get rid of them
User avatar #14790 to #14788 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
You can, but eventually you may be mistaking them for obliques.

But, people gain weight and store places in different areas. So far I tend to gain any fat around my lower stomach and love handles as well, but this doesn't mean you can't get rid of them. Just diet and exercise, and once you read about 15% body fat you shouldn't see them so badly, and at 10% you should have almost no trace of love handles.
#14792 to #14790 - thedavster ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
thank you so much,so you think swimming is good for that?
User avatar #14796 to #14792 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
Really any exercise. Swimming would be great. Doesn't have to be running. In my opinion, complexes for pure weight loss and conditioning are the absolute best, but that's a bit advanced.
User avatar #14794 to #14792 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
I'd say good old fashioned running is probably best for sheer weight loss along with a low carb diet to force your body into using fats
User avatar #14771 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
My gym is closed for the 4th of July and the day after. Fuuark. Video related- www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPln7W2Nvtk
User avatar #14761 - vwanyama (07/02/2014) [-]
Anyone done the insanity workout? Not looking to lose weight or get ripped. Just wanting to fix my core (pelvis and lower spine is fucked) and build my fitness levels
#14766 to #14761 - xxxsonic fanxxx (07/02/2014) [-]
Insanity is just cardio mixed in with squats and leg workouts. Honestly you could run 3 miles in less time and still get a similar workout. It was good for a sweat, but I can't see it having any benefits unless you are in stamina based athletics.
User avatar #14763 to #14761 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
Best way to fix your core is corrective deadlifts and squatting. Insanity is just going to make you jump around it does not fix posture. Watch videos on youtube by Elliot Hulse on corrective deadlifting. He talks a lot about thoracic extension and the body's natural spine curvature.
User avatar #14760 - nsfwcontent (07/02/2014) [-]
Okay, so earlier I noticed that my top right ab is slightly bigger than my top left ab...
Not sure what to do about this, do I contunie as normal working out and hope they even out or do I focus on my left side of abs a bit more for a while or will that throw the others out?
User avatar #14773 to #14760 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
pretty much what marinepenguin said

if it bothers you that much, look up shirtless dudes on google images (no homo)
and you'll see that a majority have different shaped abs
User avatar #14762 to #14760 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
If it's your abs, it's a genetic thing. You can't really work out a specific part of your abs because it is all one big muscle. You can kind of work upper and lower portions, but left and right is not something you can really change.
#14756 - studbeefpile (07/02/2014) [-]
You how you feel cool when you finish a PR set of deadlifts, and then you drop the weight because you're using bumper plates and it doesn't matter?....Well, you stop feeling cool when you accidentally drop the weight on your leg.

I may have dropped 405 on my leg.

Didn't break anything, surprisingly, just bruised and swollen as fuck.

I got dat tripple tho.
#14778 to #14756 - xxxsonic fanxxx (07/02/2014) [-]
>Not simultaneously leaping back as you let go of the bar

RIP leg hair
User avatar #14779 to #14778 - studbeefpile (07/02/2014) [-]
You right, you right.
User avatar #14765 to #14756 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
When you dropped it the bar came down and rubbed your leg? I usually only get my shins scrapped and I only drop it sometimes.
User avatar #14767 to #14765 - studbeefpile (07/02/2014) [-]
The bar fell on my leg right above my knee cap, I was all amped up, so when I finished the set, I dropped it and started to walk away, but my left leg wasn't cleared yet.
User avatar #14768 to #14767 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
ya dun goofed.
User avatar #14769 to #14768 - studbeefpile (07/02/2014) [-]
I dun goofed.

Not dropping weights again.
User avatar #14770 to #14769 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
You are not suppose to drop it. You are suppose to throw it against the mirrors to assert your dominance.
User avatar #14757 to #14756 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
Looks badass
User avatar #14759 to #14757 - studbeefpile (07/02/2014) [-]
Painful as fuck tho.
User avatar #14743 - ilikegurlbutz (07/02/2014) [-]
hey fitness i need some tips on dieting. I know what kinds of things to eat i just need some help on on breaking the habit of snacking on junk food
User avatar #14746 to #14743 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
The junk food is just something you have to force. Stop buying it. Buy fruits and veggies that you like to snack on, or some other snacks you may like, like some yogurt or cottage cheese. You don't have to completely get rid of the junk, but really really limit it. After a while you won't even really crave it all that much.
#14720 - xxxsonic fanxxx (07/02/2014) [-]
Resistance bands or pull up bar? Which do you prefer and why, which do you use and why? I always preferred resistance bands. It was easy to keep track of your form and easier to monitor your breath. It gave me the concentration to know that I was focusing on the muscles I needed to focus on, and I could do 3-4 times more of those on harder bands on my first try than I was ever able to do on pullup bars.
User avatar #14727 to #14720 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
Pullup bar. Pullups, chinups, neutral grip pullups, leg raises, muscle ups, there are all sorts of movements you can do to get your arms, upper back, and legs shredded and strong.

While resistance bands have their uses in lifting, like adding extra resistance at lockout of a lift to help make the lift easier, or for training to failure at low resistance to stimulate hypertrophy, on their own they serve little purpose in my opinion.
User avatar #14721 to #14720 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
Resistance bands, simply because you can do more work outs and target different muscles with them

A pull up bar, is well, a pull up bar
User avatar #14764 to #14721 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
Only old people attempt to gain muscle with a resistance band lol. If you can't go to a real gym then get a calisthenics program.
User avatar #14772 to #14764 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
I lol'd

I hope you're really joking. Just because you can take your time with something doesn't make it for old people. Shit, I can give grandma 1 or 2lb dumbells that she can curl.
Does that mean weight training is for old people attempting to gain muscle?

If you've ever done resistance bands properly, which by your comment I assume you've never done, its an intense workout. Tons of MMA fighters use resistance bands for workouts, but I guess they're old and know nothing about working out.
User avatar #14774 to #14772 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
Resistance bands are an add on to bodybuilding. Please just tell me how you are going to do the four main compound lifts with resistance bands: Deadlift, squat, bench, row. I use resistance bands for shoulder rehab because I have tendinitis.
User avatar #14775 to #14774 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
I still fail to see how they're for old people. Please elaborate on this
User avatar #14776 to #14775 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
What I am saying is that if your goal is to gain muscle then it is a joke to have a whole workout program for weeks straight using resistance bands. OP is looking for something to workout with. Using JUST resistance bands will result in so many muscular imbalance injuries from lack of any compound lifts. And that is so pointless to say mma fighters train with resistance bands. There workout is probably 5-10% resistance band work. Also mma fighters do not equal bodybuilders.
User avatar #14783 to #14776 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
And OP is not looking for something to work out with.

OP was asking which people prefer to work out with. OP stated he prefers resistance bands compared to pull up bars.

And with my amazing powers of deduction aka reading , I can infer that OP has both.
User avatar #14786 to #14783 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
That is because OP does not have the strength to be able to workout with just a pull bar. So he does not need resistance bands he needs dumbbells.
User avatar #14781 to #14776 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
First resistance bands are for old people
Then you throw in that they're an add on and can't be used for main lifts (which I don't think anyone has ever claimed, so moot point is moot)
Now you're saying its a joke to ONLY use resistance bands (which no one claimed was a good idea either, nor will endorse)
Using just resistance bands will NOT result in muscular imbalance injuries if used correctly. Using anything incorrectly has a chance to fuck you up, doing deadlifts wrong, chance to fuck you up, doing squats incorrectly, guess what? Another chance to fuck yourself up. And let's be honest, there's more injuries due to accidentally dropping weights on yourself than people hurting themselves with resistance bands. And that's not counting injuries related to improper form. So I really have no idea what point you were trying to make there.

My point in mentioning MMA fighters was to rebuttal your piss poor argument that resistance bands are for old people. Which I don't know why I bothered in humoring you on that.

"There" workout is probably 5-10% resistance band work. Which is actually a lot, considering half their workout is sparring.

No one has claimed that MMA fighters are body builders either, but these guys work on their bodies to compete in their careers. I think they know a tad when it comes to working out.
User avatar #14784 to #14781 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
I said muscular imbalance injuries not muscular injury. The point is pull up bar will do much more for op then a resistance band lol. Thanks for being a grammar nazi. ("There")
User avatar #14787 to #14784 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
I know what you said.

And considering resistance bands improve muscle flexibility and muscle endurance, I have no Idea how they cause muscular imbalances. As muscular imbalances are due to poor flexibility and poor muscle endurance among other factors.

I just elected to ignore that part of your comment. Also, the phrase grammar nazi is actually grammatically incorrect.
User avatar #14789 to #14787 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
Lol what is stretching for? Muscular imbalance is not at all what you just said lo.
User avatar #14791 to #14789 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
They're caused by improperly working out, and only working out one part of your body. Which can happen with many things, not just resistance bands. I still have no idea why you're so hellbent that they're the devil and for old people, and you still haven't explained your reasoning for the latter.

Anyways, they're caused by improperly working out, and as a result the opposite muscle isn't flexible nor strong enough was that mentioned earlier? Oh wait, it was, I mentioned it to counteract the pull on your joints due to one side being stronger. My solution would be, if I did X exercise with resistance bands in the right direction, I'm also going to do them in the left direction. And to everyone's surprise, that actually works.

Somehow you've gone from claiming that resistance bands are for old people, and are now claiming they will cause muscular imbalance, which, like anything else, if done improperly, also will.
User avatar #14795 to #14791 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
My point this entire time is that resistance bands should not be used as an entire workout but you seem to praise them because you can't stop defending them. It makes me think you workout at home to p90x and insanity with an entire collection all different lengths and colors of resistance bands .
User avatar #14798 to #14795 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
If you've ever read any of my posts on this board you will know that I agree that doing a single workout is the stupidest thing you could do.

I'm defending them because of the stupid shit you say. And I'm afraid others will believe your cancerous shit.

No resistance bands are not for old people.
No they do not cause muscular imbalance.
Resistance bands do give you a wider array of workouts compared to a pull up bar. You can work out your calves, thighs, abs, and everything you can do with a pull up bar. Are there ways to work out said areas better than with a resistance band? Absolutely, but resistance bands are very versatile, and promote flexibility, and that is their selling point. Once again, there are thousands of other ways to do things better, and more efficiently compared to resistance bands.

I don't own a single resistance band. I used to, but I currently don't. P90x and Insanity, I don't even own a dvd player. But if you think I love them and have every edition of p90x because I'm proving your misinformed facts wrong at every turn, sure, whatever puts a smile on your face.

I follow my own workout from when I used to play soccer competitively. With increased cardio, and weight exercises.
I have played soccer at the U-17 national level. I'm currently an amateur boxer.
I think I know about working out.
User avatar #14799 to #14798 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
Lol soccer just proves you are not passionate about bodybuilding. You might as well be an avid crossfit member. But what ever makes you feel smarter about being a world class athlete buddy. Like anyone has ever heard of "U-17" lol.
User avatar #14801 to #14799 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
If you were ever decent at any sport in highschool, you'd know what U rankings are. Last time I checked, I never claimed to be a body builder, nor do I want to be.

Soccer does prove I'm all about being in peak physical condition, and boxing does as well.

I'm all about fitness, and by looking at the name of this board, I think I'm in the right place, considering the word bodybuilding is absent.
User avatar #14802 to #14801 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
Haha I play on bulls/sox academy for basketball and I played varsity soccer for 2 years but thanks.
User avatar #14804 to #14802 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
You're clearly butthurt about being proven wrong about everything you said about resistance bands that you're trying to justify yourself through a dick measuring contest. And honestly, a glorified summer camp isn't the way to do it.
User avatar #14806 to #14804 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
We should all just switch to using resistance bands everyday. Dumbbells are so useless.
User avatar #14808 to #14806 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
You're fucking retarded if that's what you understood.
Next time I'll use smaller words. And possibly make a color coded diagram
User avatar #14812 to #14808 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
Please do. I can't handle your D1 soccer skills and Stanford education.
User avatar #14805 to #14804 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
Lol you are the one bragging about boxing and soccer but ok. You are the true keyboard warrior of this thread.
User avatar #14810 to #14805 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
I only brought that up, as you thought I did P90x, and said I'm not about body building.

No, I have my own workout that has helped gotten me to competing in soccer at the national level. As for body building, for what I do, its beyond inefficient. Once again, I'm about fitness.

And one more time for your legume sized brain to comprehend.

Resistance bands (the springy things that look like over sized rubber bands), are not only for old people.

They do not cause injury if used properly.

They are a good workout tool, but there are other things that can do the job better.

I don't know how to dumb this down more for you
User avatar #14728 to #14721 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
I'm gonna have to go the opposite of you here buddy.
User avatar #14732 to #14728 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
I didn't think of those ways to use a pull up bar honestly. I guess I was thinking of a pull up bar that people use in their homes, which are pretty much just for pull ups the ones that go over your door or some shit, idk I don't trust them

I like resistance bands because I can use them for my core, plus I feel like they help me be more flexible, since in a way you are stretching as you use them
User avatar #14733 to #14732 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
Well for my house I just use the wooden supports in my garage ceiling, so I don't even have an official pullup bar. It's basically the same thing though.

But yeah you can get creative with it and it's a great tool. A staple in any workout.

Bands are good, not trying to rip on them, they have their place in a workout too. I just consider pullups to be one of the top 10 workouts of all time.
User avatar #14736 to #14733 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
What are your top 10 workouts?
I don't think I even have 10 workouts. My workout is very basic, and anyone with 10 lb dumbells, and an indoor bike can do
User avatar #14739 to #14736 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
I'd say the best 10, in no specific order would be
Overhead press
Power Cleans
Wide Grip Snatch Pulls
Goblet Squats
Really any of the other olympic lifts

these are all for a routine that build strength and some size
User avatar #14740 to #14739 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
I definitely agree with a lot of those being really good workouts.

I just have a habit of rating things by accessibility.
So I tend to favor bodyweight workouts higher. Like push ups (core, upper arms and back), are amazing, and anyone can do it, as you only need yourself
User avatar #14741 to #14740 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
That's true (don't forget chest though) . And doing bodyweight exercises is great, but for my goal they can only take you so far. Which is why I don't do pushups or anything like that for my main movement. And when I do them I have a 45 pound plate on my back.
User avatar #14745 to #14741 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
Huh, I meant to add chest on that list as well, which is the primary reason why I do them.
Could be the booze still lingering in my system. Henny + Dr Pepper is good, I recommend it, but all these carbs man

I have a weighted vest that I use for sit ups and pushups, lunges and sometimes for jump rope
I currently have it at 30 lbs (its adjustable from 0-60 lbs, even wearing it at 0lbs makes me sweat like none other)
User avatar #14747 to #14745 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
I have a 40 pound vest. And it kills me to do pushups with it. I can only get about 10 max. And you can forget dips.

But with that then it becomes more of a weighted lift than purely body workout.
User avatar #14750 to #14747 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
I do 20 with 30lbs, but after the 20th, I just lay there.
And lay
Then attempt to roll over onto my back, and lay some more

But you're right, it does kind of become a weighted lift, but your hands are free, which is what I like when doing jump rope. As I think it'd be impossible to do jump rope while holding dumblells of any weight. And jumping with ankle weights, haha
User avatar #14751 to #14750 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
True, like I've said, we just have different goals and forms of exercise. The whole point is to stay in good shape and out live the lazy people haha.
User avatar #14717 - lolpandas (07/02/2014) [-]
Got stuck in a rut of not giving a shit. Still hitting my macros (kinda) but I skipped leg day and haven't been strict with my routine. How did you get out of the rut Fitness?
User avatar #14722 to #14717 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
We all have days where we don't do a full routine, or skip a certain workout. Just remember why you started working out in the first place, and that should get you motivated to do it fully and right the next day

Everything good is worth waiting for
User avatar #14719 to #14717 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
I started slacking because I didn't see results, I was getting stronger, but I looked the same. I decided that I was going to force myself to pick it up and starting eating like I was supposed to as well. A year and 40 pounds later, I don't think I'll be hitting another plateau anytime soon.

I think you just have to grin and bear it, switch it up, until you see progress. That's what causes most people to burn out, they stall and lose heart.
#14701 - confusedasian (07/01/2014) [-]
We have a fitness board?

Hey if I'm fat can I get really skinny? Or does it not work that way? Can I get super buffed?
#14707 to #14701 - unncommon (07/01/2014) [-]
What do you want to do, I'll try to help you out.
>pic is me for proof I even lift and am not some faggot who has no idea what he's saying
>real men train forearms
#14777 to #14707 - xxxsonic fanxxx (07/02/2014) [-]
pls bulk skelly
#14711 to #14707 - confusedasian (07/01/2014) [-]
Nothing much, just like get lean or thinner. I'm fat, but not overweight. I'm fine with muscles I just don't care much for shaping or defining them. For the most part I just want to get thinner and healthier.
User avatar #14713 to #14711 - unncommon (07/01/2014) [-]
Intensify your workouts and drop back on carbs in your diet to lose weight. 70% of weight control is diet. I'd recommend eating a large breakfast, a moderate lunch, and a smaller dinner. Also start cutting out sodas and try to make your primary beverage water.
User avatar #14710 to #14707 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/01/2014) [-]
I think he's kidding, hence my dumb response.
#14712 to #14710 - confusedasian (07/01/2014) [-]
No I'm serious lol. I'm fat, but I don't want to be anymore. It's not very pleasent, stretch marks, no pretty clothes. Trying to get a healthy life choice going on.
User avatar #14718 to #14712 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
Basically what uncommon said, you don't really have to worry about carbs and fats at this point, just make sure you are eating good foods and eating an amount that is less then what your body needs.

Do high intensity workouts, don't jog. Lift weights if that's what you want to do. You don't want to lose muscle as you lose fat too, you won't look the way you want to.
User avatar #14705 to #14701 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/01/2014) [-]
You are stuck with the body you are born with, sorry.
#14706 to #14705 - confusedasian (07/01/2014) [-]
I'll never become a strong nord woman now. My dreams are shattered.
User avatar #14700 - mondominiman (07/01/2014) [-]
Is 230 a good weight to stop at? Back when I was really fat I told myself I was gonna drop to 230 and then start focusing on gaining muscle but now that I'm closer to that weight I was thinking if i should still drop more weight. I'm a big guy with a large frame so I don't know if that would be bad for me by getting really skinny.
User avatar #14723 to #14700 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
depends on your height really, and if you're going for a certain weight for a sport or something
User avatar #14725 to #14723 - mondominiman (07/02/2014) [-]
I'm 6'2" and I just set that as a goal because it's not that heavy and I can finally start focusing more on building muscle without worrying about counting calories
User avatar #14726 to #14725 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
You definitely want to consult marinepenguin on this, since you two are of similar height, and I assume will be going for similar builds

While 230 isn't huge for 6'2, you have to consider your bodyfat %, if its not at least under 20%, I would recommend losing a bit more weight before trying to build muscle
User avatar #14730 to #14726 - mondominiman (07/02/2014) [-]
What type of build is marinepenguin going for?
User avatar #14731 to #14730 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
I'm trying to hit a lean 200 right now. I'm about 192 at 15% body fat give or take right now.
User avatar #14737 to #14731 - mondominiman (07/02/2014) [-]
It'd take me awhile to get down to that weight, maybe 2-3 months if I workout every day. Much less If I get access to proper equipment.
User avatar #14744 to #14737 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
It's a journey, not a race, and 2-3 months is a short time in the fitness world. I'm planning my shit for years ahead. If I were you, I'd continue to lose weight while not really focusing on the scale. Focus more on how you look. Reach a lean weight and try to hold on to your muscle, not a weight that you like but still look kinda chubby. Then build up your strength and size from there. I have always been pretty lean, but I've had to watch putting on too much fat. I'll have to cut down so I can reach 10% body fat eventually as well. You can do it though!
User avatar #14714 to #14700 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
You should be focusing on gaining muscle since day 1 so if you do lose the weight you will not look skinnyfat.
User avatar #14708 to #14700 - unncommon (07/01/2014) [-]
What type of workouts are you doing now and how often + the rep/set range of the exercises.
User avatar #14704 to #14700 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/01/2014) [-]
230 is still pretty heavy if you don't have a lot of muscle. I'd get under 200 first.
#14699 - nogzilla (07/01/2014) [-]
Hey fitness, how can a skinny guy like me bulk up? I usually work out for an hour and a half every other day for the past 2 months, but there hasn't really been a noticeable difference
User avatar #14703 to #14699 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/01/2014) [-]
Eat more, make sure you aren't doing stupid workouts that don't give you any benefits.
#14698 - TexMex (07/01/2014) [-]
Do you have to get fat first to get a body like this and then chisel down?
User avatar #14724 to #14698 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
That dude has tiny nipples.
I'd listen and ask marinepenguin for advice, he's the dude on fitness board, he's the type of dude that works out to get bigger

Me, I'm just trying to achieve full blown ottermode, since it suits me best
User avatar #14729 to #14724 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
Wow, you really know how to make a guy feel appreciated with these mentions.
User avatar #14734 to #14729 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
I just acknowledge that you're the better person to give advice on trying to get swole. I'm not trying to get big at all. You're trying to get bigger. So I rest my case

Seriously those things are like mosquito bites
User avatar #14735 to #14734 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
Well it isn't like you don't know your shit either. You just have a different goal and a different method is all.

And I didn't even think about them until you mentioned them, they're like over-sized moles.
User avatar #14738 to #14735 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
I just do my thing, cuz with a 28.5 inch waist, I'd look beyond ridiculous trying to bulk up.
My bones are done growing, they are fixated on that position, I'd probably look like a disney character if I attemtped to bulk lol.

I wasn't looking at that guys nips originally.
I was looking at his stomach and thinking
"he's got some ab action going on there"
>look up
"those are really tiny nips"
User avatar #14742 to #14738 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
You wouldn't look that ridiculous. You'd have a really nice V. I'm jelly, I haven't measured my waist but I would find it very hard to get a good V without getting to ridiculous proportions.
User avatar #14748 to #14742 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
I have a really nice v cut, I just mean that I think I'd look ridiculous if I got to the point where I had an ice cream cone shape.

I dunno, I like being able to still fit in my high school clothes.
#14749 to #14748 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
I doubt that you'd get that much bigger. I mean in the past several months my upper body has gotten big enough to where my old shirts don't fit now unless I make them cutoffs. I still look pretty blocky and not so much V like. So it isn't like your bone structure changes, just your muscles extend out, and your posture gets a bit better so it gives the appearance of much wider shoulders.
User avatar #14753 to #14749 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
And eventually I'll someday post a pic of myself, but as of now, the only mirror in my apartment measures 12 in by 14.5

aka its tiny.
User avatar #14752 to #14749 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
I know I'm exaggerating, and I've been told that I wouldn't look weird many times. I just feel comfortable about my current size, and not to mention I can't really afford to gain weight, even if it were just pure muscle

I have shirts that I've had since I was 15, i'm fucking 23 now. And you're blocky because as I've told you before, you could easily lose 15-20 lbs, lose that and you'd have a chiseled looking v cut. But you still can't afford to shed that weight yet
User avatar #14754 to #14752 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/02/2014) [-]
Well if you're happy then don't change a thing. I've just acquired a thing for getting big and heavy while remaining athletic.

And you are right, I don't know about 15 pounds of pure fat, but at least a good 10 pounds would make me look really cut.

I get compliments all the time if I go swimming and stuff so I'm not worried about looking bad or blocky at the moment.

And pics aren't necessary, I just post to give some perspective. And it shows if someone would consider me a credible source or not.
User avatar #14755 to #14754 - leobaloy (07/02/2014) [-]
You'd be surprised. When I was 150, I thought I really couldn't lose weight, yet I somehow lost 10lbs

I just wanna post a pic of myself eventually. Until then I'll work harder. And not skip working out like I did today in favor of cheese burgers and booze.

I'll prove that normal people on fj can achieve an ottermode build. You can prove your short term goal of 6'3, 200lbs 10% on fj
User avatar #14709 to #14698 - unncommon (07/01/2014) [-]
No, but don't train to look like someone else because it'll never be the same. Use them as motivation, yes, but your genetic build and body composition is different. But don't let the word "Genetics" scare you because some of the only people out there who meet their genetic potential and professional athletes. So chances are you've just hit a plateau if you've stopped growing, not reached your potential.
User avatar #14702 to #14698 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/01/2014) [-]
#14693 - oborawatabinost (07/01/2014) [-]
Anyone else have those days where you simply cannot satisfy your appetite?

It happens to me on occasion. And although I'm not fat (pretty average, I guess), I'm still trying to slim down some and get a little leaner. Anyone know good ways to get rid of these cravings? I work out 2x a day (or at least try to), and you'd think that was what's working up an appetite, but these times are so irregular, while my workouts aren't.

Srsly, it's like The Very Hungry Caterpillar up in here.
User avatar #14715 to #14693 - scoobydoobydo (07/02/2014) [-]
This is the biggest eating disorder in the world. People don't have to be hungry to snack they just have to be bored. Eat smaller meals and have healthier snacks between meals. Nuts are the best snack because they have a lot of protein and fat but are also calorie dense.
User avatar #14716 to #14715 - oborawatabinost (07/02/2014) [-]
Yeah, I kind of do get hungry when I'm bored. I don't really have a lot of nuts around the house, though.
User avatar #14696 to #14693 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/01/2014) [-]
You probably aren't eating enough, you're body is telling you that it needs more food to recover and sustain itself. If you are trying to slim down at all you should count your calories so you make sure you aren't eating too little, so that your body won't crave so much.
User avatar #14697 to #14696 - oborawatabinost (07/01/2014) [-]
Alright, I'll try eating a little bit more for each of my meals, and see if that makes a difference. Thanks.
User avatar #14688 - monsieurhonkhonk (06/30/2014) [-]
So is there any reliable way to ease muscle aches, especially in your elbows and biceps? I was at the gym on Saturday, and I thought that since I'm used to carrying heavy objects and lifting garage doors, it would be alright for me to do five sets of 20 reps with fifty pound weights. Now I'm having trouble lifting my arms above my shoulders.
User avatar #14689 to #14688 - marinepenguin ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
Time, food. You just gotta get used to it. And you curled 50 pound dumbbells 20 times for 5 sets on your first day?
User avatar #14694 to #14689 - monsieurhonkhonk (07/01/2014) [-]
Never said it was my first day. It's more that I'm not used to lifting that much for extended periods of time, and I did the set over the course of 15 minutes.
User avatar #14695 to #14694 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/01/2014) [-]
Well if it's something you don't usually do, it's nothing to worry about. Your body just needs to adapt. And if you can do 50 pounders for 20 reps without any form breakdown, I'm impressed, not trying to bring you down any.

If you're getting back into it just make sure you eat enough and sleep enough so your body has the means to recover.
User avatar #14691 to #14689 - scoobydoobydo (07/01/2014) [-]
LOL oh god why. Hope he is trolling.
User avatar #14692 to #14691 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/01/2014) [-]
Yeah, that's kind of a lot. I doubt good form was involved.
#14686 - xxxsonic fanxxx (06/30/2014) [-]
Is there anyway to do crouching curls without absolutely destroying your back? I was trying to do them along with some of the other curls that require one to sort of lean ones back forward, and the leaning ones didn't put too much pressure on the back muscle but the crouching ones certainly did. Even when I tried to perfect the form and lower the weights I could still feel it heavily on my back. Being a curl I imagine I am supposed to feel it on some part of my arm instead of the elbows and back. Is there any sort of curl that one could do in substitute? They just don't feel right at all. Also what is the benefit of bending your knees for every curl?
User avatar #14687 to #14686 - marinepenguin ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
I had never even heard of crouching curls, had to look them up. That variation of curl is supposed to work the lower back along with your biceps.

Just do regular curls man, no need to do this fancy shit. Stick to the basics.
User avatar #14671 - marinepenguin ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
I decided I'm going to actually start a professional program, I've heard a lot about Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 and how it builds a ton of strength and size through the basics lifts, and it has gotten a ton of good feedback. So I'm gonna give it a shot, run with it for about a year and see how it goes. Pretty excited.
User avatar #14690 to #14671 - marinepenguin ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
First day, and I had to do dips for 5 sets of 15. I suck at dips, that nearly broke me holy shit.
#14664 - xxxsonic fanxxx (06/30/2014) [-]
I'm 17, 180 cm tall and weigh about 90 kg, how can I lose weight and body fat without gaining muscle?
User avatar #14666 to #14664 - marinepenguin ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
Diet and some kind of high intensity exercise. Diet alone burns muscle too.
User avatar #14665 to #14664 - scoobydoobydo (06/30/2014) [-]
Constant dieting. End of this thread.
User avatar #14667 to #14665 - marinepenguin ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
Diet alone will burn about 1 pound of muscle for every 3 pounds of fat.
User avatar #14668 to #14667 - scoobydoobydo (06/30/2014) [-]
I gave anon a short answer because the without gaining muscle part was just stupid.
User avatar #14669 to #14668 - marinepenguin ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
That's true, since it's pretty difficult to do both.

But I was assuming he didn't want to lose muscle and become some skinnyfat guy.
User avatar #14670 to #14669 - scoobydoobydo (06/30/2014) [-]
He is most likely a young kid who wants to be twig like lol. He will change his mind in a few years.
User avatar #14672 to #14670 - marinepenguin ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
Let hope so, tired of hearing about kids that think having a 6 pack at 130 pounds is ripped.
User avatar #14673 to #14672 - scoobydoobydo (06/30/2014) [-]
Are you a T-miscer? I feel like you are.
User avatar #14674 to #14673 - marinepenguin ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
What's a T-miscer? I've never heard that term before sorry.
User avatar #14677 to #14675 - marinepenguin ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
Hopefully seeming like one of them isn't a bad thing haha
User avatar #14676 to #14675 - marinepenguin ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
No I don't go on that site. I go on You need to login to view this link all the time.
User avatar #14678 to #14676 - scoobydoobydo (06/30/2014) [-]
Oh I see. What split are you following. I go P/P/L.
User avatar #14679 to #14678 - marinepenguin ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
I'm doing the same actually, I just posted a few minutes ago about how I'm going to try out 5/3/1 here soon. I think I need to get back to the basics since some of my lifts are good, while others are shit.
User avatar #14680 to #14679 - scoobydoobydo (06/30/2014) [-]
I don't like powerlifting but good luck. Will for sure build more strength on that. Im on dat dere road to aesthetics though.
User avatar #14681 to #14680 - marinepenguin ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
I'm not really huge on it either, but aesthetics is basically going to be my goal for the long road. I'm hoping to reach a lean 240 some day. Got about 15 years to reach that goal.

I have just been told by lots of people to set up a good base of strength first, then move to bodybuilding type workouts, which is what I really enjoy.
User avatar #14682 to #14681 - scoobydoobydo (06/30/2014) [-]
240 lean!!!! The fuck. How tall are you lol.
User avatar #14683 to #14682 - marinepenguin ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
6'3, so I could do it at my height. It'll be a long tough road though. I'm at about 190 right now. Short term goal is 200 pounds lean.
User avatar #14684 to #14683 - scoobydoobydo (06/30/2014) [-]
I'm 6'2 but I don't think 240 lean is possible even with tons of gear no offense. Jeff Seid is only a little over 200 at 6'1 and he cycles nonstop.
User avatar #14685 to #14684 - marinepenguin ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
There's a guy who goes to my gym who is maybe an inch taller then me and he's easily 230 lean. Guys a monster. Regardless, I'll still try to get as big and strong as I can. Won't hurt to try right?
User avatar #14658 - teoberry (06/29/2014) [-]
Is there a good way to even out muscles? My left calf is noticabely bigger/more toned than my right because of longboarding. Since individual calf exercises are kind of hard to come by, do y'all think just keeping with normal exercises (ex calf raises) will help? My train of thought is that my right calf will get more gains than my left. Both'll get worked out but my right will see more progress since it's not as hard on my left.
User avatar #14660 to #14658 - scoobydoobydo (06/30/2014) [-]
Try 1 legged calf raises with your toes on a box jump or step. Cheers for longboarding brah.
User avatar #14661 to #14660 - teoberry (06/30/2014) [-]
Aight, thanks bro. I love longboarding (tho I'm not the best and just use it to get places), I wish I knew how much it would affect my calves.
User avatar #14662 to #14661 - scoobydoobydo (06/30/2014) [-]
I have a pintail and im not very good either. I was never a skateboarder but I love to carve on a nice steady hill with no speed wobble.
User avatar #14663 to #14662 - teoberry (06/30/2014) [-]
Damn, that reminds me I have to invest in a new one. I bought a crappy 90 dollar one just to get places but it takes about 20 pushes to go down the block while my friends take 5 max. The wheels also suck so I can't carve that much, but it's still fun when I do.
User avatar #14647 - irevolutions (06/29/2014) [-]
Does anyone know if keto actually works? I'm a 6'1" male, 16 years old, and I weight around 230lbs (104kg). I want to try it, can anyone give me advice?
#14655 to #14647 - xxxsonic fanxxx (06/29/2014) [-]
Eating at a caloric deficit will cause weight loss, the pigeon of chippington has spoken.
#14652 to #14647 - xxxsonic fanxxx (06/29/2014) [-]
Yes, it causes enhanced fat loss compared to non ketogenic diets. The first guy who responded is retarded. There's tons of broscience out there, but keto is a scientifically backed fact.
User avatar #14654 to #14652 - scoobydoobydo (06/29/2014) [-]
down thumb me with an actual account anon lel
#14659 to #14654 - xxxsonic fanxxx (06/29/2014) [-]
I don't have an account on here and I didn't even thumb you down
User avatar #14648 to #14647 - scoobydoobydo (06/29/2014) [-]
It will not cause you miracles in getting fit. It is just bullshit like people saying how they are detoxing when they have no idea what they are doing.
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