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#538 - Common Pepe (03/08/2012) [-]
**** Mass Effect. there i said it
#533 - Common Pepe (03/08/2012) [-]
OBJECTION
*snuffles*
#532 - glasgowrangers (03/08/2012) [-]
mfw playing the PS3
#534 to #532 - glasgowrangers (03/08/2012) [-]
mfw playing the xbox
#552 to #534 - vquiick (03/08/2012) [-]
LOL at the fanboys thumbing down the Xbox comment, but thumbing up the PS3 comment
User avatar #553 to #552 - glasgowrangers (03/08/2012) [-]
I know, they're practically the same!
#535 to #534 - glasgowrangers (03/08/2012) [-]
mfw playing the pc
#537 to #535 - glasgowrangers (03/08/2012) [-]
mfw playing the wii
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#519 - zigzagderpaderp (03/08/2012) [-]
I must say, the graphics on the Wii are stupendous.
#516 - derpyhoovesretard (03/08/2012) [-]
Commander Shepard thread?
#530 to #516 - chetoosman (03/08/2012) [-]
I have a feeling this is going to become the new arrow to the knee. Smh
User avatar #540 to #530 - sircool (03/08/2012) [-]
no. "They're fools. We should eat them" would be sooner.
#546 to #540 - chetoosman (03/08/2012) [-]
Oh, I'm not sure what you're talking about as I am not one of the lucky ones that has played the game haha
The reason I said that was because I've heard that being used repetitively throughout the internet last night as well as today and so I fear it might be the next "it" thing
User avatar #563 to #546 - missniggelson (03/08/2012) [-]
It used to be fairly popular, just making a comeback since the 3rd is out.
User avatar #550 to #546 - sircool (03/08/2012) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq994ufPX5Q

ah, alright. link is to what i said. i think it's better then ad store spam of what you were talking about.
#556 to #550 - chetoosman (03/08/2012) [-]
lol that was actually hilarious. Let's hope it doesn't become overly used.
btw, that's going to be my response to all of my stupid inner monologues.
#512 - ddttbb (03/08/2012) [-]
This picture reminds me of how to take a dump.
User avatar #496 - ivoryhammer (03/08/2012) [-]
The Wii has pretty good graphics on some games, like Mario Galaxy and the new Zelda game look really good to me.
User avatar #520 to #496 - darthacerbus (03/08/2012) [-]
Well there's not really a point of comparison for those is there?
#479 - dieabolical (03/08/2012) [-]
Wait, Isn't PS3 graphics better than Xbox 360?   
   
That's what I thought any way
Wait, Isn't PS3 graphics better than Xbox 360?

That's what I thought any way
#507 to #479 - georgeoforce (03/08/2012) [-]
No, not really, it all depends on the cable to connect the two and the TV you're using
User avatar #487 to #479 - TheFullMonty (03/08/2012) [-]
Uuuh, yes Sir, But in most developers and publishers often grub for money and just program games to run the same on both consoles. The PS3's power is hardly ever utilized to full potential because of this. If you compared them together you couldn't tell the difference between them with your naked eye.

www.ign.com/articles/2010/08/26/xbox-360-vs-playstation-3-the-hardware-throwdown
User avatar #491 to #487 - dieabolical (03/08/2012) [-]
Oh ok
User avatar #493 to #491 - TheFullMonty (03/08/2012) [-]
Yeah, this poster is obviously a XBox fanboy :P
User avatar #500 to #493 - dinosaurloving ONLINE (03/08/2012) [-]
Or if you did some research, you would know that multi-platform games run better on xbox. Look it up broski. And thats between 360 and ps3 excluding pc because its always better no matter what game.
User avatar #503 to #500 - TheFullMonty (03/08/2012) [-]
I clearly posted a Link to IGN with several test they ran.......
And every newfag knows PC is tops with graphics, there is no argument there.
--Stop being soooo...... Entry Level
User avatar #517 to #503 - dinosaurloving ONLINE (03/08/2012) [-]
Look at the fj red thumb brigade! Nice! Anyways games are optimized for consoles, most multi-platform titles are better optimized for the 360, thus they run better. Get your facts straight before you throw a stupid ******* ign link at me.
#527 to #517 - TheFullMonty (03/08/2012) [-]
Lmao, What better way to get your facts straight than to do research? By Looking through multiple reviews and other articles made by communities, organizations, and companies and then looking through The Specs between the 2 consoles- I came into this flame war with my Facts Straight; Locked and loaded.
#569 to #527 - Common Pepe (03/08/2012) [-]
you cant compare systems based on multi-platform multi-platforms will never use each system to their full potential because they aren't as optimized
#478 - Common Pepe (03/08/2012) [-]
Boom dragon age and fable two of the best games ive played but some of the worst graphics ive ever seen then you get a game like mirrors edge with good graphics but the gameplay is horrible.
Graphics are a nice feature but it doesnt make a game.
User avatar #497 to #478 - ivoryhammer (03/08/2012) [-]
Dragon Age has great graphics, what are you talking about?
User avatar #482 to #478 - demandsgayversion (03/08/2012) [-]
Mirrors Edge was fun, but it got boring pretty quick.
#476 - bvcgfdtre (03/08/2012) [-]
Opinion time!

Infamous 1 and 2 were the best games for the PS3 (so far).
It's storyline was one of the best.
User avatar #560 to #476 - TheCynic (03/08/2012) [-]
Infamous was awesome. By no means was it Shakespeare, the second being above standards for video game stories, but was still riddled with minor plot holes. I think as gamers, we should expect more out of writing for our games as a story telling medium.

I mean, it's possible to have a good story and good gameplay. See also: Bioshock, Half-Life.
#526 to #476 - spacecheese (03/08/2012) [-]
Dark souls because it has a really deep lore if you put the pieces together, its really hard and yet so fun plus the animations are the best I've seen in this generation.
dark souls all the way!!!
User avatar #541 to #526 - skidleydoo (03/08/2012) [-]
Yes, and the frame rate is amazing in the swamp, infinite respawning mosquitoes and falls that can **** you up with every step.
User avatar #562 to #541 - natanhiel (03/08/2012) [-]
And that's why I enter Blighttown ONCE
And make sure all of my strategies include NO items from there.
The max I've ever stayed in Blight is about an hour, and that was my first time trying to take the deadly shortcut.
User avatar #549 to #541 - spacecheese (03/08/2012) [-]
thats the point, yes the frame rate sucks at blighttown but all other things are meant to be that way, its meant to be an annoying as hell place
#513 to #476 - derpyhoovesretard (03/08/2012) [-]
Killzone 3 also had a great story. Because it's a first-party game, the presentation and gameplay are top-notch. A very underrated game :(
#499 to #476 - xBooMHeaDShOt (03/08/2012) [-]
MGS4 is a fantastic game. But this will always be my favourite PS3 exclusive game.
User avatar #506 to #499 - laelaps (03/08/2012) [-]
I've only played Uncharted 3, but my expereince was that the story line is great, but the game play itself is incredibly repetitive. The entire game can be summed up with; Fight scene, parkour, puzzle, repeat.
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#489 to #476 - laelaps (03/08/2012) [-]
Not even close. Infamous can't even touch Metal Gear Solid 4. And speaking story line only, no other game is even on its level.
#559 to #489 - TheCynic (03/08/2012) [-]
Are you kidding me? The story was convoluted, pulling a George Lucas and pulling "fan favorites" left and right just to satisfy stupid fans. The writing was godawful, telling the story through completely through dialogue and choking exposition down like a pill the size of the goddamn matterhorn. It was absolutely bonkers and couldn't be taken seriously. It interrupted gameplay just to shove more bad story down our throat with only, like, five minutes of gameplay. And even then you were getting yelled at by Otocan the whole time. Any writer, whether it be for movies, games, or books, will tell you that that is horrid story telling.

Infamous was not exactly Shakespeare either, but at least it didn't make me wait twenty minutes to watch a goddamn cutscene of characters ************ some nonsensical technobabble back and forth before I got to play.

Honestly, now. Has ANYONE watched Zero Punctuation?
#613 to #559 - laelaps (03/08/2012) [-]
You're damn right the story was convoluted because unlike most other games MGS4 dares to tell a different story, one where not everything is 'black and white' and 'good and bad' because every characters have their own alterior motives, characters are being manipulated and used, and you never know the full story behind anything. It requires the gamer to think and to understand a story not just think, "these are bad guys, if I kill them I win the game" Also your points are incredibly contradictory. You say that too much of the story is explained solely through dialogue but at the same time you criticsize Kojima pulling 'fan favorites.' Well guess what MGS4 is not a stand alone game it is the 6th game in a series and most of the background information happened in the past, and unless you want cheesy flashbacks then you can deal with the dialogue in the cutscenes. Also, the reason there is so much dialogue is because Kojima isn't trying to pull fan favorites, the game seeks a broad audience. There would be no need for dialogue about everything that has happened because Metal Gear Solid fans know it all, the lengthy dialogue is so that other gamers aren't completely lost. And yea there were lenghty cutscenes that cut into game time to tell an AMAZING story that you obviously can not appreciate. The stroyline is specific enough to where what the player chooses to do might not explain the story that well so they use cutscenes instead. And on the contrary Metal Gear solid's story telling has been praised by game magazines, even comparing it to that of a movie. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about and I would stop pretending like you do.
#614 to #613 - TheCynic (03/08/2012) [-]
Oh you. I've been a writer for ages. Scripts, mostly. You know nothing about story, character development, plot, and climax. Just because a story is complicated doesn't mean it's good. The story is riddled with plot points that make NO sense whatsoever. It was filled to the brim with cliches and bad story telling.   
   
ASK ANY WRITER.   
   
"MY BROTHER LIVED THROUGH HIS ARM AND IS NO GRAFTED ON THIS GUY!"   
   
Not to mention with it's cheapest McGuffin, the Nanomachines, which are supposed to explain everything. Why did all this 			****		 happen? Nanomachines. Everything. Nanomachines.   
   
And how is pulling characters left and right contradictory? They usually come up to explain some 			********		 that either nobody cares about or to go into a whole bunch of 			****		 that simply doesn't make sense.   
   
I suppose you thought that Metal Gear Solid 2 had good writing as well.   
   
"I went into your room Jack. And it was empty. JUST LIKE YOUR HEART!"   
   
I know great writing when I see it. Metal Gear Solid 4 has horrendous writing, with cliche undertones of "WAR IS BAD."   
   
Here, watch this:   
www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/99-Metal-Gear-Solid-4   
   
If you want good writing, pick up Bioshock or Half-Life. Not only do those games go in depth with character development, but aren't afraid to use symbolism and rely on the player to put the pieces together instead of explaining everything in twenty minute cutscenes that ruin the whole idea of video games as an interactive story-telling medium. Not to mention, they aren't entirely reliant on McGuffins (except Bioshock, but the whole story is based around that so it's not so much a McGuffin as a plot device) and challenges the player to think instead of sit through it all.   
   
Or are you so unable to stop worshiping your god Hideo Kajima that you can't stand to hear that twenty minutes of exposition is not good story-telling?
Oh you. I've been a writer for ages. Scripts, mostly. You know nothing about story, character development, plot, and climax. Just because a story is complicated doesn't mean it's good. The story is riddled with plot points that make NO sense whatsoever. It was filled to the brim with cliches and bad story telling.

ASK ANY WRITER.

"MY BROTHER LIVED THROUGH HIS ARM AND IS NO GRAFTED ON THIS GUY!"

Not to mention with it's cheapest McGuffin, the Nanomachines, which are supposed to explain everything. Why did all this **** happen? Nanomachines. Everything. Nanomachines.

And how is pulling characters left and right contradictory? They usually come up to explain some ******** that either nobody cares about or to go into a whole bunch of **** that simply doesn't make sense.

I suppose you thought that Metal Gear Solid 2 had good writing as well.

"I went into your room Jack. And it was empty. JUST LIKE YOUR HEART!"

I know great writing when I see it. Metal Gear Solid 4 has horrendous writing, with cliche undertones of "WAR IS BAD."

Here, watch this:
www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/99-Metal-Gear-Solid-4

If you want good writing, pick up Bioshock or Half-Life. Not only do those games go in depth with character development, but aren't afraid to use symbolism and rely on the player to put the pieces together instead of explaining everything in twenty minute cutscenes that ruin the whole idea of video games as an interactive story-telling medium. Not to mention, they aren't entirely reliant on McGuffins (except Bioshock, but the whole story is based around that so it's not so much a McGuffin as a plot device) and challenges the player to think instead of sit through it all.

Or are you so unable to stop worshiping your god Hideo Kajima that you can't stand to hear that twenty minutes of exposition is not good story-telling?
#615 to #614 - laelaps (03/08/2012) [-]
Well I'm glad I can half-agree with your statement above. Probably the biggest flaw with the MGS4 story is their reliance on nano-machines as a plot-hole to fix anything that didn't mesh. They relied too much on this loop hole and it ruined the over all integrity of the game. Also MGS2 is easily the worst game in the series, as you pointed out it has incredibly cheesy lines and dialogue. That being said you seem to obsess too much over dialogue, ans I'm guessing it's because that's easiest for you since it's the subject your most knowledgeable on. There is much more to making a good game then what goes into the dialogue. Furthermore, MGS4 story was air-tight and I would like to hear what you call "riddled with plot points that make no sense" because I guarantee there are none. And if anything this game breaks cliches (not to say they don't use 1 or 2 of their own). And finally, I loathe games that try to make heavy use of symbolism, because this is a game not a novel. Not everything in life is symbolic and there should be more media that reflect that. Not to mention MGS actually allows the player to put together pieces of in information about the characters and they're probably the best at it. MGS4 just doesn't refelct this as it is the last game chronologicly and they had to tie up all undisclosed information and give the series an appropriate conclusion.
User avatar #616 to #615 - TheCynic (03/08/2012) [-]
MGS4 is riddled with symbolism and motifs as well, it's a story telling technique and the best symbols are symbols you don't notice.

And dialogue isn't my specialty- that's just how MGS4 decides to tell it's story. You can't do **** without having a character explain everything to you. And the ridiculous plot points are the plot points that either make no sense or are hard to believe. And seeing how this game loves to break immersion with half-hearted fourth wall breaks and injokes that destroy any hope of me taking it seriously, a lot of it is hard to believe.

It keeps twisting the plot for almost no reason, even when the story is trying to resolute itself. "The government did this! No- my brother did! No- it was the government AND my brother!"

I mean, an eight year old girl programming a computer virus that saves the world and somehow cures Snake, something a computer genius who designed Metal Gear couldn't. A guy lives on through his arm. Some weapon salesman lives with a monkey and just so happens to be in the same place you are at the same time. And it goes through hours and hours to explain all of this **** .

A good game uses its atmosphere to tell part of the story. Like Bioshock. A good story weaves exposition into the plot without having to stop and explain everything every half hour. A good game allows the player to be a part of the story instead of watching it happen. A good story tells a story through action, using dialogue for things it can't otherwise do like character development. A good story can make its themes clear without being preachy. A good story takes advantage of suspended disbelief instead of abusing it. A good game uses gameplay to help tell the story. A good game is a game, not a movie.

MGS4 does none of that.
#617 to #616 - laelaps (03/08/2012) [-]
This seems like a good place to end the argument as you have successfully disproved any credibility you have as you lack any understanding of the game whatsoever. The computer virus was not written by sunny ( the eight year old girl). She simply made some alterations to it, and the computer virus did not cure Snake. In fact Snake is not cured of his accelerating aging. Also, Liquid Snake did not live on through the arm attached to Ocelot, the ending cutscene dismisses that notion by stating that Ocelot went through extensive psychotherapy to convince himself that he was Liquid and even adding in the line "Ocelots like to play" Drebin is also a travelling arms dealer who supplies weapons to PMC's in conflict areas, and Snake has to make his way through these conflict areas so it is only logical that he runs into Drebin at these points. You can only argue against MGS4's story because you don't understand it. Finally, you say you have been a writer for ages even though you're profile states that you are 19. That is quite an accomplishment. I also have ages of writing expereience, from elementary school to high school.
#618 to #617 - TheCynic (03/08/2012) [-]
Seeing as how you've both, ignored the rest of my comments and are unable to quite understand what I'm saying.

Snake was supposed to be a biological weapon with foxdie, but then Sunny and what's-her-face went in and fixed it with no issue. The subplot had no real resolution, it was just, "oh you're sick and now you're not."

And Liquid lived on through Ocelot's arm. Remember MGS2? It was a combination of Liquid taking control of Ocelot and Ocelot's own doing. That was simply ridiculous.

And the fact that Drebin just HAPPENS to be in the EXACT SAME AREA all the time makes no sense. The whole world is supposed to be plunged in chaos. He just happens to be there with Snake. Sure there's the whole subplot with the goddamn nano McGuffins, but it's still hard to believe.

I understand it's story, though most people wouldn't. I argue it because it tells its story so badly. It's just plain convoluted.

And yes, I'm nineteen, but I'm also a script writer- you know, like I've told you. I'm a film maker. I've studied story and character development since I was fifteen and have been writing ever since I was nine. I know a lot more about story and writing than you do.

If you want to counter my argument, you might want to look at the whole argument and respond to the whole thing. Even if I did get the story wrong, the story was still rancid and convoluted and told in the worst possible way.
#480 to #476 - bazda (03/08/2012) [-]
Bitch please! If you want storyline play MGS4 and then talk.
#475 - Common Pepe (03/08/2012) [-]
I will agree, the Wii has **** graphics when they come from 3rd Parties, but for some Magical reason, Nintendo somehow makes their games look as if they are 360/PS3, Smash Bros Brawl is pretty much a legit game that can make any PS3/360 game look bland. The problem is, Nintendo isnt letting their consoles true potential to the 3rd Parties, only the ones that actually give a **** like Capcom and stuff, otherwise your a dumbass if you didnt buy a Wii for its exclusives and instead bought it as a 3rd Party console, just use a 360/PS3 for that and use the Wii for the first party and 3rd Party thats not crap.

Nintendo's atleast gotten their **** together and is gonna make the Wii U kick ass.
#557 to #475 - milesxedgeworth (03/08/2012) [-]
for once Phoenix I actually agree with you.   
(check my name)
for once Phoenix I actually agree with you.
(check my name)
User avatar #483 to #475 - Animalkilla (03/08/2012) [-]
nintendo isn't attempting to compete i think. like, left for dead franchise is almost cartoony. It should have come out for wii because most of thier games are made to look that way.
#488 to #483 - Shawksta (03/08/2012) [-]
Cartoony and Realistic are ARTSTYLES, not GRAPHICS you moron, a game can have awesome graphics but keep the style in the Cartoonish sense.
User avatar #509 to #488 - frankoeatscrabs (03/08/2012) [-]
Like Wind Waker?!
#474 - albertjester (03/08/2012) [-]
dear wii users,
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User avatar #501 to #473 - elbito (03/08/2012) [-]
wha anime b that
#542 to #501 - Common Pepe (03/08/2012) [-]
Another

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User avatar #620 to #542 - elbito (03/09/2012) [-]
thanks
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#470 - Common Pepe (03/08/2012) [-]
Mass Effect isnt even on Wii, you fail.

Who the **** cares about graphics, its all about Gameplay
#481 to #470 - dieabolical (03/08/2012) [-]
Silly anon
Silly anon
User avatar #581 to #481 - professorbag (03/08/2012) [-]
hahahaha what is that gif from? any idea?
#469 - Common Pepe (03/08/2012) [-]
IMO I'd rather replay Ocarina of Time that I bought from the Wii shop than play Mass Effect, CoD etc.
User avatar #466 - chrisfloyd (03/08/2012) [-]
**chrisfloyd rolls 683,817,785** So apparently shepard's beard isn't as thick in the ps3 version then?
#463 - extremistavenger ONLINE (03/08/2012) [-]
I expected a Mass Effect thread but all I saw were a bunch of comments
arguing about why the Wii doesn't suck, FJ, you've failed to meet my expectations.
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