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#1625344 - klfifteen **User deleted account**
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#1625403 to #1625344 - AreyouSerious
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THIS IS SO AWESOME!!
#1625342 - derpyhoovesmuffins
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unicorn flying and not even 3 months old, with little effort
twilights a prodigy at magic, much more experienced, can't fly using magic without using magic to produce wings, and takes up a lot of effort

can somepony explain this
User avatar #1625365 to #1625342 - harryboom
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someone wasn't listening to twi and rarity at the start
#1625443 to #1625365 - derpyhoovesmuffins
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umm, did they say, more powerful, cause maybe pretty powerful, but not more powerful
and the thought that magic requires energy to lift things, would mean how much your lifting would be putting a force downward upon you, therefore no flight from magic directly, cause it would even out, then you apply gravity
User avatar #1625461 to #1625443 - harryboom
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you don't understand the concept of magic do you
#1625528 to #1625461 - derpyhoovesmuffins
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in boast busters, it was shown that when lifting things, the heavier it is, the more strain on the caster, therefore, trying to fly yourself with magic alone, would cause you to tire yourself to exhaustion quickly
User avatar #1625581 to #1625528 - harryboom
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are you trying to say that a baby unicorn is heavier than a grain silo

#1625707 to #1625581 - derpyhoovesmuffins
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no, baby unicorn goes 2 times the speed of said silo
said silo weighs aproximately a ton, 2000 lb, compared to twi, aproxamately 100 lb
normally, one would include, times weight of said caster, by 40, for weightx speed of said object to lift, for tiring out in 30 seconds like twi
now this is lift of self, so baby aprox 12 pounds, so last 20 times longwer, that would mean if same energy inside at the moment of much old twi, could last for 10 minutes, but baby would have less energy inside capacity, about a tenth as much, therefore, tire self out to exhaustion by means of 1 minute
User avatar #1625809 to #1625707 - harryboom
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except it is not a matter of physical energy it is mental strain
and twi was also making wind in a very specific way to play music and milking cows
this would mean that she would be working on other things causing a strain
and if that is not enough i would like to again restate
MAGIC IT DOESN'T NEED TO FOLLOW ANY RULES YOU PUT TO IT
#1625913 to #1625809 - derpyhoovesmuffins
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theres still the thought of lifting your self
in episode 16, twi's only known spell for flight, "was to straineous" to do more than once, and its a constant spell, you use it once, and then until it breaks (wings) your good, and that is using magic indirectly to cause lift of oneself

baby is lifting oneself directly, therefore might cause more mental strain to do, cause its directly attacking gravity on your self, while the other was constructing a tool to fight it

and yes, I'm over analyzing a show
User avatar #1626028 to #1625913 - harryboom
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it is stressful because wings are big complicated biological structures
you would need to know the details of how they work it is not the same as lifting yourself.
ok this next part is big so pay attention. when twi was lifting the silo her legs did not break, this may seem a silly point to make but it means that her body is not experiencing the force required to lift the silo. this would imply that lifting ones self using magic would be no different than lifting anything else as there need not be anything for the caster to push against.
so all the baby is doing is lifting 12lb of baby
#1626242 to #1626028 - derpyhoovesmuffins
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i was implying that with less weight of oneself, less magic/mental/mana capacity
therefore the rules still apply for 20 times as long as twilight, therefore being 10 minutes, but then you still have to put in the fact that both the kids got really luck to not be earth ponies, therefore not even as close powers as "true unicorn and pegasus" where they have same parents as their abilities, and then you have to put into the fact that twilight was a prodigy, the second best, trixie, barely had any power at all, it would most likely be a normal unicorn pony in ancestery, therefore not even close to powerful, and if you remember, at that age twi had trouble lifting the pages of a book

as far as wings being complex, yes, actual wings, but twi made the things out of one material alone, therefore just the shape matters
User avatar #1626347 to #1626242 - harryboom
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twi was much older then them at the time and was trying to make a effort to turn a page were as the babies were undergoing a magical surge
one similar in face to the one twilight underwent when hatching spike
this show that unicorns are capable of exceeding even trained adults when undergoing one of them
and saying that the genetics has en effect is stupid. we have never been given any indication that that has an effect

and the wings still had to be connected so that they would work on command
#1626483 to #1626347 - derpyhoovesmuffins
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for wings, i meant you didn't have to make the lightened bones, just something to contract on it self, and one to tighten out forward, therefore, less, work to make it

not entirely
lauren faust said herself that pegasus also have some magical properties, therefore, when sonic rainboom happened, the rainboom had magic in it, therefore could have triggered the property with twi, so the "surge" with twi was caused by rainbow dash

and celestia said she had seen nopony with this much raw talent, therefore, twi is still stronger
and the rainboom and the suge for twilight happened after it was hard for twi to lift a page
User avatar #1627089 to #1626483 - harryboom
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i never said she wasn't more powerful the baby that's exactly what i am not saying
the baby was undergoing a surge just not on the same level as twilight that surge allowed her to do all that crazy stuff
#1629331 to #1627089 - derpyhoovesmuffins
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ok then, understood
and sorry for late reply, working on house
User avatar #1629349 to #1629331 - harryboom
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good then we have unravelled the magic science of this episode
see you next time
#1629407 to #1629349 - derpyhoovesmuffins
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okie doki :D
User avatar #1625335 - mazic
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Well Cyzzacle's account was terminated...
I now do not know where to find the new episode.
#1625317 - mehehe
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I'm out for a while everypony, got a few things to do

i'll catch up on ya later
User avatar #1625377 to #1625317 - lordheckler
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Later!
#1625313 - spinthatrecord
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#1625312 - AreyouSerious
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OH the twins are suppose to be like pebbles and bam bam. i see you Faust, i see you.
User avatar #1625310 - Bluecoolman
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I've decided i need to friend all the gay community that i havent before
#1625431 to #1625310 - oxan
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Comment Picture

#1625308 - rrenierr
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aaah

good old [out of context] sceencaps
#1625287 - misskinkamena **User deleted account**
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#1625303 to #1625287 - thelefthand
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#1625261 - jimmypageftw
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Sooooo the one month year old can fly, genuinely pretty good, and Scootaloo still can't at all?

The hell?
User avatar #1625297 to #1625261 - mazic
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I always assumed scootaloo had some sort of problem with her wings. Like, they were abnormally small or something.
#1625492 to #1625297 - jimmypageftw
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that would be very saddening, considering the happy-going nature of MLP
that would be very saddening, considering the happy-going nature of MLP
#1625270 to #1625261 - geminibrony **User deleted account**
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User avatar #1625268 to #1625261 - harryboom
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#1625259 - oxan
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> Notice Lauren Faust is of Lithuanian descent
> Remember I'm Lithuanian
> Mfw
#1625256 - tkich
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#1625253 - WTFoldACCOUNTgone
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is there a link to the new episode in 1080?
User avatar #1625269 to #1625253 - santatwo
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Soon, young grasshoppah...

www.equestriadaily.com/2012...
#1625243 - Frankendell
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Is there an HD link to the episode yet?
#1625239 - rrenierr
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Describe what you see in this picture
User avatar #1625265 to #1625239 - yourbestfriend
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Rainbow dash caught in a tree
User avatar #1625258 to #1625239 - electroshloob
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Rainbow Dash preparing for some hot sweaty pony lovings.
I am a sick twisted individual.
User avatar #1625257 to #1625239 - bigbaddrag
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fluttershy is tying rainbow up, likely so RD won't be able to run away
User avatar #1625252 to #1625239 - rrenierr
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lol
someone favorited
User avatar #1625251 to #1625239 - anondude
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voluntary rape
User avatar #1625244 to #1625239 - rrenierr
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I see 2 characters of a show for little girls that are about to have bondage
#1625229 - santatwo
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Brace yourselves, the flood of new reaction pics is coming...
#1625227 - mlphentailover
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I sure as **** do
#1625220 - rrenierr
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watwatwatwatwatwatwatwat
User avatar #1625217 - rainbowcrashy
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Pony logic: Pound cake can fly like a boss at 1 month old but scootaloo doesn't fly like at all...
User avatar #1625241 to #1625217 - harryboom
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#1625209 - Frankendell
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New tv service just installed.
Tech guy leaves a channel guide
Look at my package
"the hub"

Now i need to figure out how to get everyone out of the house on staurday mornings.
User avatar #1625254 to #1625209 - yourbestfriend
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watch it in front of them
#1625280 to #1625254 - Frankendell
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I would catch an unimaginable amount of **** for it.
I would catch an unimaginable amount of **** for it.
#1625324 to #1625280 - yourbestfriend
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so?
so?