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#235 - sheepinator (05/31/2011) [-]
Pics or it didn't happen.
umad religion fags?
#225 - anonymous (05/31/2011) [-]
I hear people complain that god wouldn't let wars happen.

Didn't you ever have lego people fight?
User avatar #241 to #225 - gndroor (05/31/2011) [-]
Dude, I honestly love you, I gonna play with my lego figures with which I haven't played in years. :')
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#230 to #217 - jremzthedragon (05/31/2011) [-]
Satan punishes evil people so technically he is doing good.
God does not forgive poeple and sends them to an evil place so technically he is doing evil.
And religious people say that God is always with us, so how is the Devil 'seducing' us into sin if God is with us, dont you think he would try to stop it?
User avatar #548 to #230 - thefran (06/08/2011) [-]
> Satan punishes evil people

Satan does NOT punish evil people. That renders everything else in your post invalid.

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User avatar #549 to #548 - jremzthedragon (06/08/2011) [-]
this discussion was finished 7 days ago... that makes your point invalid
User avatar #550 to #549 - thefran (06/09/2011) [-]
I wasn't on the internet for more than a week. Yer point?
User avatar #233 to #230 - whattheflork (05/31/2011) [-]
Actually, God punishes them by sending them to hell, and gives them a chance for forgiveness through confession.
User avatar #237 to #233 - jremzthedragon (05/31/2011) [-]
But technically God isnt the one doing athe punishing,the Devil is. If the Devil wanted to he could make hell the most bitchin place ever with tons of sexy women and beer, but no he decides to punish bad people.
But you know what else i dont get, if the Devil is the one tempting you to do bad things, why would he punish you in hell for doing said things, shouldnt he reward you for listening to him and fufilling his duties?
#250 to #237 - anonymous (05/31/2011) [-]
Satan doesn't rule hell. Satan was just the first person to be sent to hell. Satan was an angel who disobeyed God and was sent to hell for it. All evil human souls were also sent there.
User avatar #245 to #237 - imbrovvn (05/31/2011) [-]
Alright here goes nothing.

God is a forgiving God, but if you don't listen to him and fall in temptation then you're doomed. The only reason Satan tries to get your attention it to get you away from God and try to get you away from the good life. The eternal life. Satan does this by sins and impurities. By doing so, Satan is killing souls and making God look bad. But nobody understands that God is a forgiving God so all you need to do is just ask God for forgiveness and not follow Satan.

Not trying to start anything religious. Just trying to help you out cuz you look confused. Source? I'm Christian.
User avatar #263 to #245 - jremzthedragon (05/31/2011) [-]
no your source is not that your a christian, your source is the bible, the base of christianity
Im technically christian too (raised christian and go to catholic school) but I do not believe in the bible, or that theres a guy on a bunch of clouds that controls every aspect of the universe either, but this is just my opinion not trying to start a religious debate or anything
#285 to #263 - anonymous (05/31/2011) [-]
I hope you realize (after reading your previous comments; btw all this I am saying is according to the Bible) that all men are considered criminals in God's eyes, and God is doing justice by sending wicked men to Hell. Hell is God's domain as well; He is sending Satan there after everything is done too.

With regard to God's justice, think of it like this: if you had a serial killer break into your home and slaughter your entire family, you pin the guy down and call the cops, when he goes to court, and judge lets him off freely, you would go insane and make it known to all the newspapers and **** because that judge is corrupt. That's the thing: God isn't, He HAS to execute justice. Sorry if you don't like it...but that's how it is.
User avatar #292 to #285 - jremzthedragon (05/31/2011) [-]
Okay lemme lay something down for you: you walk into your home to find a mysterious man raping your mother, and you notice the rest of your family alreayd defiled and dead on the floor behind them. Your family goes hunting alot, so you get the rifle above the door and shoot the guy in the arm. Since you hit him in the arm he is not dead yet so you, taking in all that he has just done to you, decide to have a little fun with him and you torture him to death. Is that considered a sin? Because if it is then God is sinning by punishing people who do bad things with even worse things (hell)
#296 to #292 - anonymous (05/31/2011) [-]
It is a sin, but it doesn't make God evil. Why?

First off, it is you taking the matter into your own hands. God said "vengeance is mine", and basically by you torturing and killing the guy yourself, you are making yourself like God; idolatry of self. You aren't the judge, God is, because in God's eyes, you are as wicked as that guy, no matter how subjectively "better" you are than that guy in your own eyes.

Secondly, God isn't sinning by punishing people because He is the judge, He has the authority to judge people according to His law, and to execute His own justice. You would be convicted of murder if you killed a criminal instead of taking them to a judge who has the authority to death their death.
User avatar #299 to #296 - jremzthedragon (05/31/2011) [-]
Have you ever heard the term 'no man is above the law'
I understand that god, or whatever concept of god people have, isnt a 'man' but he says that he made man in his own image, so he should follow the rules he set himself unless he wants to be hypocritical
#310 to #299 - anonymous (05/31/2011) [-]
Using the same logic from your argument, all the nation's judges, authorities, and executioners ought to be convicted and taken out of office/lose their authority for commiting a crime.

That's the flaw in your argument. If an executioner kills a criminal using the electric chair based on the orders of a judge who found that criminal guilty, is the executioner a murderer? No, it is a righteous killing.

You have to recognize that in our estimation of God (if this is the God of the Bible, then the assumption is He is infinite in all things), He has infinite authority and an infinite amount of righteousness. He is guiltless even when held to the standard of His own law, even in the execution of justice.
User avatar #340 to #310 - jremzthedragon (05/31/2011) [-]
Yes all the nations judges, authorities, and executioners SHOULD be convicted if they commit a crime, and they are... if they are caught. the executioner is not commiting a crime because executing someone(if there is orders to do so) is not a crime.
But yes i understand that god (the bible god) would have infinite autorite and righteousness but does that make it right to torture people for things that happened in the past? No i dont think so, but then again this is just my opinion as an Agnostic
#382 to #340 - anonymous (05/31/2011) [-]
Well that's not what I had said. Not IF they commit a crime; that is obvious, they ought to be caught and convicted. I'm talking about when they enact justice (i.e. judge criminals, sentence them to death, put them to death) that you would consider that a crime. That's exactly what you were saying (implied by the logic you were using).

And who says that Hell is only torture? Not only is it a miserable place of infinite duration, but it is also a place where you will get everything you have ever wanted that isn't God Himself. Because in Heaven, you're only going to be getting Him. You'd find Hell to align much well with your desires if you hate the God of the Bible. Even if He opened the door of Hell, everyone would slam the door shut.
User avatar #395 to #382 - jremzthedragon (05/31/2011) [-]
Ahhh i see i misinterpreted what you said, but the judges themselves arent sentencing them to death, the law is, and the judges are just fufilling the law. Since God is the highest power and has infinite authority and righteousness then he is able to bend those laws.
But I understand where youre coming from, I am quite tired of using my brain so much so lets just agree to disagree :)
#517 to #395 - anonymous (05/31/2011) [-]
Sure thing man. You said it yourself right there, "...the judges are just fulfilling the law". That's exactly what God has been doing and will do.  
  
Btw, I wasn't trying to prove myself right or you wrong or anything like that; just working to make you aware of what the Bible has to say about all this stuff. Glad we could talk w/o vulgarity/being immature.
Sure thing man. You said it yourself right there, "...the judges are just fulfilling the law". That's exactly what God has been doing and will do.

Btw, I wasn't trying to prove myself right or you wrong or anything like that; just working to make you aware of what the Bible has to say about all this stuff. Glad we could talk w/o vulgarity/being immature.
#521 to #517 - jremzthedragon (05/31/2011) [-]
I wish all anons were as chill as you
I wish all anons were as chill as you
User avatar #534 to #521 - imbrovvn (06/01/2011) [-]
I'm pretty sure this guy has an account though. Must find out who. Lol. Read all those comments and you both had good points. But you both have different views as do I. But I hope everything works out in life with you. I'll pray for ya. :D No matter what.
User avatar #239 to #237 - whattheflork (05/31/2011) [-]
Satan's a dick, bro. Only explanation.
User avatar #246 to #239 - jremzthedragon (05/31/2011) [-]
well if he(or she) wasnt real then God would be bored out of his mind and would start ******* **** up
User avatar #219 to #217 - iRetaliate (05/31/2011) [-]
And god totally didn't create a way for people to wage war over religion! Totally, right?

Go kill yourself.
User avatar #223 to #219 - thefran (05/31/2011) [-]
I must kill myself just because this picture is wrong in two different ways. Aight.
#213 - fazermint (05/31/2011) [-]
Problem, god?
#204 - yogurtpudding (05/31/2011) [-]
wasnt the bible put out as a series of rapid symbols to teach people...

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#198 - whatshesaid (05/31/2011) [-]
Don't forget all the rape in the bible! That's my kinda book!

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#196 - IamPinhead (05/31/2011) [-]
I'M ON THE INTERNET SO I FEEL THE NEED TO BE A PSEUDO-INTELLECTUAL PRICK AND MAKE BROAD GENERALIZATIONS ABOUT THEISM OR ATHEISM BECAUSE IT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER ABOUT NOT UNDERSTANDING THE UNIVERSE
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#291 to #252 - IamPinhead (05/31/2011) [-]
thumbs for you sir. Teh lulz were had.
User avatar #247 to #196 - scizzorz (05/31/2011) [-]
HOW DARE YOU HAVE AN OPINION THAT IS IN DISAGREEMENT WITH MINE, YOU BASTARD, THIS IS THE INTERNET, EVERYONE CAN AND WILL CONFORM TO MY OPINIONS AND IDEAS.
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#201 to #199 - IamPinhead (05/31/2011) [-]
I MUST USE CAPSLOCK OTHERWISE PEOPLE WON'T KNOW HOW SMART I AM FOR SAYING 'LOL RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE IGNORANT HYPOCRITES' OR 'LOL ATHEISTS ARE JUST ASSHOLES'
User avatar #242 to #201 - whatshesaid (05/31/2011) [-]
THE JOKE IS NOW DEAD LEAVE THE FUNNY IN PEACE
User avatar #205 to #201 - thefran (05/31/2011) [-]
YOUR OPINION MAY OR MAY NOT BE WRONG JUDGING FROM THE PRESUMPTION OF UNCERTAINITY BUT AM STILL GOING TO INSULT YOU NONETHELESS SINCE IT DOES WONDERS FOR MY SELF-ESTEEM.
#207 to #205 - IamPinhead (05/31/2011) [-]
I WILL MAKE ANOTHER BROAD GENERALIZATION AND DISMISS YOUR ARGUMENT ON THE BASIS OF SOMETHING ALMOST COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE
#215 to #207 - anonymous (05/31/2011) [-]
WHAAT? I CANT HERE YOU OVER ALL THE SELF RIGHTOUSNESS
#216 to #215 - IamPinhead (05/31/2011) [-]
I HAVE A RIGHT TO BE SELF-RIGHTEOUS BECAUSE OF MY OPINION ON SOMETHING THAT IS BY DEFINITION UNCERTAIN
User avatar #224 to #216 - thefran (05/31/2011) [-]
HOW CAN YOU BE SELF-RIGHTEOUS IF YOUR OPINION IS WRONG BASED ON MY UNVERIFIABLE VIEWS ALONE
#227 to #224 - IamPinhead (05/31/2011) [-]
BECAUSE MY OPINION IS CLEARLY CORRECT ACCORDING TO THIS HORRIBLY BIASED ARGUMENT
User avatar #228 to #227 - thefran (05/31/2011) [-]
YOUR ARGUMENT IS OBVIOUSLY HORRIBLY WRONG AND I AM GOING TO DISPROVE IT BY MAKING AN OFFENSIVE PERSONAL REMARK THAT SHOULD IN MY OPNION RENDER ALL YOUR FUTURE ARGUMENTS INVALID WHEN CONVENIENT
#195 - anonymous (05/31/2011) [-]
haaaaaaaaaaaaa
#182 - damngodit (05/31/2011) [-]
The bible in a shortened version.
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User avatar #188 to #182 - OMGINBD (05/31/2011) [-]
That's pretty accurate too.
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#181 - GodofTV (05/31/2011) [-]
Odin's killed waaaay more people than pussy ass god.
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#179 - swedishassassin (05/31/2011) [-]
GEE I HOPE THIS DOESN'T START A RELI-

Oh wait, it was from the start. **** .
User avatar #170 - NolanNasty (05/31/2011) [-]
i actually discussed this with some guys in my class the other day... creepy O.o
#163 - Skatrpunk (05/31/2011) [-]
If the devil punishes bad people, does that make him a good guy?
User avatar #208 to #163 - thefran (05/31/2011) [-]
> If the devil punishes bad people
Common misconception.

Devil does not punish bad people. Devil does not have a kingdom of hell where he rules over the sinners. Devil is punished in Hell, though.
User avatar #194 to #163 - TokixWartooth (05/31/2011) [-]
No, it makes him the Green Hornet.
User avatar #183 to #163 - DaBliss (05/31/2011) [-]
Lucifer was originally gods favorite angel, but he didn't obey god once (seen as an ultimate evil) so he was sent to hell, where now others who are evil now go to. He doesn't punish the bad people, he was just the first to go there. Then over time since he was the first he kinda "ran" the place.

#254 to #183 - anonymous (05/31/2011) [-]
The devil is like the gang leader in prison who makes you toss his salad for initiation
#180 to #163 - anonymous (05/31/2011) [-]
The devil doesn't punish bad people, he is being punished because he is a bad person.
User avatar #214 to #180 - thefran (05/31/2011) [-]
Why is anon being thumbed down again?

Any time Hell is depicted as "the Devil's domain", typically with Satan sitting on a throne of skulls, idly twiddling his pitchfork while the damned are marched by in chains. The Bible clearly teaches that Hell (well, the Lake of Fire, which is really the closest thing explicitly mentioned) was always intended as a punishment for Satan, not as a kingdom. The closest analogue to a realm of the dead is Sheol or the grave - a place where the dead go, but not for punishment or reward. It seems to be a place where absolutely nothing happens.
#156 - TomCruise (05/31/2011) [-]
Comment Picture
User avatar #152 - DoctorMusic (05/31/2011) [-]
WHY WOULD YOU USE AN EXPONENTIAL SCALE?!
User avatar #133 - aeroxotl (05/31/2011) [-]
The 7 sons and 3 daughters of Job in the Book of Job. And the Devil killed them because of a BET between God and the Devil.
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User avatar #148 to #136 - aeroxotl (05/31/2011) [-]
Bitch, this is the ******* bible we's talkin' about. Everything in that damn book is based on hypocrisy, lies, and unfairness.
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#114 - EZBakeFourthAcct (05/31/2011) [-]
from your description it seems everything you do revolves around and seemingly hates religion.
User avatar #149 to #114 - tigerrrr (05/31/2011) [-]
I'm probably going to get thumbed down for this but.
I just found these pictures really funny so I posted them.
It's not like I was literally saying "Religion sucks" or "Atheist power!"
No, They are just pictures.
User avatar #122 to #114 - thefran (05/31/2011) [-]
Bashing religion is an excellent way to ride the front page train.
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#192 to #139 - FacePubes (05/31/2011) [-]
Is English not your first language, or are you just illiterate?  
Nothing makes a person seem stupid like poor grammar, simply stating.  
  
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Is English not your first language, or are you just illiterate?
Nothing makes a person seem stupid like poor grammar, simply stating.

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User avatar #160 to #139 - TomCruise (05/31/2011) [-]
wat
#111 - hurtis (05/31/2011) [-]
**hurtis rolls 7,903**
quads and im the devil
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User avatar #202 to #120 - thefran (05/31/2011) [-]
Last time I posted that comment I got top 10.

Apparently Funnyjunk is much more hateful now.
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User avatar #165 to #126 - nomistoom (05/31/2011) [-]
Never seen a better use for that picture.
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