by the laws of nature, there are no laws. If inbreeding helps perpetuate the species, then so be it, by nature's standards. If we are still alive, then we have earned it. Also, the secret for countries to stop fighting is not flowers, or protests, or speeches. It's commerce. Money needs to be flowing. Sounds greedy, but think about it like a symbiotic relationship between two animals.

You're right about there being no laws and inbreeding perpetuating the species but that doesn't make it less disgusting. You can drink piss and eat shit to survive in extreme conditions a bit longer than without doing so but that doesn't make it easier to do or less disgusting.

...for us. humans.

A dog will gladly eat her puppy's shit in order to hide evidence of easy prey from predators.

also, inuit consider reindeer shit a delicacy

You can argue it either way that anything else aside from us could have a different morale value system or that they have the same one or a number of other things. And now im responding to your other reply

How's the 8th grade going?

beat me to it

Curious but what makes you think I'm in the 8th grade?

Because the whole "Oh, humanity is terrible. We're going to kill ourselves. We aren't doing anything for society" statement is the kind of thing you say when you're in the pessimistic eighth grade phase of your life.

Take an environmental science class mate. Maybe then you will know what you are talking about.

Buddy, I have. And it is blown waaay out of proportion. I doubt you have though.

So stating that humanity as a whole isn't something an outsider would be excited to meet is only said by 8th graders?

Or someone older or a little younger whose still in that phase.

Yeah, or someone older whose still in that phase.

It's not exactly a viewpoint as it is more of an opinion on how someone would view meeting humans for the first time and learning about them. It's just my opinion that despite all the good things or great accomplishments, i don't think aliens would be excited to meet us.

Meant to say phase not viewpoint.

btw I'm not thumbing you down at all

A view point is an opinion. But trust me here, this is a phase everyone goes through at some point.

I realize it is a phase of "humanity is going to kill us all" but that wasn't my point at all.

My point was someone wouldn't be excited to meet this planet's worth of people despite all the good we've done as a whole, the evil is just as heavy if it doesn't outweigh it. It's similar to say if Africa was war torn and ravaged with disease, completely desolate and resources diminishing. The people that inhabit there kill many of their own all the time, do rather disgusting things to entertain themselves and are at a low maturity level as a whole. Would you be excited to visit Africa?

implying the alien races we find have our same moral code
implying we are not the first alien race they find
implying those rumors about africa are not inflated by media and popular culture

Also implying that the aliens aren't just outright coming to wipe us out
Also implying that the aliens aren't on a specific peace mission regardless of our accomplishments or lack thereof
Also implying that the aliens have any thought processes that revolve around emotion.

My opinion has implications in it and you can dissect it however you feel but it's just my opinion

ok, hopefully this will change your opinion about humanity http://www.fullmoon.nu/articles/art.php?id=tal

I don't have a bad opinion about humanity just about what an outsider would view on us. I'll give the article a read and let you know what I think of it, right now I need to go find some food.

Sidenote though, after glancing at it. I'm not religious so it might not have any effect on me if it is highly religious in nature.

trust me when i say this: if you are not religious you will love it.

Well thanks for the read and also for the discussion. Nice little back and forth with effective use on your part, think the other person was just going for the typical internet banter. I'll be reading it when I get back from this food run. Good day to you for now sir