Star wars : 40k style
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fresighto (12/24/2015) [-] >star wars blasters
>40k power armour
Nah
Don't bother, it's like a lasgun, wont scratch the paint.
>40k power armour
Nah
Don't bother, it's like a lasgun, wont scratch the paint.
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hongkonglongdong (12/25/2015) [-]
Actually, blasters are considerably worse than lasguns. They do have plasma technology, however.
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angrycatisangry (12/25/2015) [-]
Calcs for both?
Don't know much but a las gun can basically blast a concrete wall down or shoot an unarmored targets limbs off. Ye basic blaster rifle that the rebels use don't seem that powerful. Don't compare these to hans blaster please.
Also legends or didney canon calcs?
Don't know much but a las gun can basically blast a concrete wall down or shoot an unarmored targets limbs off. Ye basic blaster rifle that the rebels use don't seem that powerful. Don't compare these to hans blaster please.
Also legends or didney canon calcs?
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hongkonglongdong (12/25/2015) [-]
Honestly speaking, calculations for GW stuff is pretty useless. This is because the writers operate in an entirely different universe. They tend to do stuff like write the calcs for a gun as way worse than how they then go on to depict them -- or the exact opposite. Either way, they frequently break the laws of physics without a second thought.
Either way, lasguns are indestructible, they are accurate, they are very high damage, and they can be infinitely scaled up (lascannons are just big lasguns).
Either way, lasguns are indestructible, they are accurate, they are very high damage, and they can be infinitely scaled up (lascannons are just big lasguns).
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angelusprimus (12/25/2015) [-] Star wars blasters are tibana gas plasma particle weapons.
Lasguns are concentrated light beams.
Yeah, blasters would do damage.
Lasguns are concentrated light beams.
Yeah, blasters would do damage.
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blackoutonetwotwo (12/25/2015) [-] >Tau
>Melee
kek
Yeah, I know Farsight uses one. Nonetheless most guys who engage them in melee end up being like this.
>Melee
kek
Yeah, I know Farsight uses one. Nonetheless most guys who engage them in melee end up being like this.
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homestuckxplain ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-] >Be me
>Play Tyranid
>Still getting into game, don't know much
>Charge across field against Tau, cover is for noobs
>Flying Hive Tyrant becomes Swiss Cheese
>Finally get into Melee, survive Overwatch by some miracle
>Omnomnom.winrar
>MFW Hive Tyrant gets punched to death by a Tau.
>Play Tyranid
>Still getting into game, don't know much
>Charge across field against Tau, cover is for noobs
>Flying Hive Tyrant becomes Swiss Cheese
>Finally get into Melee, survive Overwatch by some miracle
>Omnomnom.winrar
>MFW Hive Tyrant gets punched to death by a Tau.
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flippytrixfordiner (12/25/2015) [-] I know there is a tabletop game and actual games of WH I just assumed it was a game he was talking about.
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nightmarexnxnxnxnx ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
Except that:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanegashima_%28Japanese_matchlock%29
I am not really sure why the heck didn't they use stocks though. I mean, bracing a rifle against your cheek? **** no...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanegashima_%28Japanese_matchlock%29
I am not really sure why the heck didn't they use stocks though. I mean, bracing a rifle against your cheek? **** no...
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fluffythetrashcan (12/25/2015) [-] I mean, depending on when it is that could work, japan had a weird "yeah we have guns now but also samurai are cool" phase
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nightmarexnxnxnxnx ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
Then again, samurai were mostly horse archers. A skilled mounted bowman is always going to defeat a footman with poor armor and a rifle with crappy accuracy.
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angelusprimus (12/25/2015) [-] Unless they are in a triple line.
Oda Nobunaga was famous for breaking enemy cavalries with his multiple rifle lines.
Tokugawa shoguns later stopped developing guns and limited their use to concentrate on their samurai.
That worked so well for them.
Oda Nobunaga was famous for breaking enemy cavalries with his multiple rifle lines.
Tokugawa shoguns later stopped developing guns and limited their use to concentrate on their samurai.
That worked so well for them.
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nightmarexnxnxnxnx ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-]
Yes but those cavalry men were usually equipped with naginata or yari, not a bow, and they charged the enemy head on most of the time. The important thing about fighting against riflemen formations is not to charge them head on. If you have a couple of skilled mounted bowmen who can fire while constantly moving around, a formation of rifle-men doesn't stand a chance in this time period, especially in japan, where the armor riflemen donned was so poor it could not even stop an arrow.
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angelusprimus (12/26/2015) [-] They had bows, japan unlike europe and china is mostly not very flat country.
Especially around fortified areas.
Nobunaga was master of guns and master of terrain. He would simply place his gunmen at strategic choke points, protect them with spearmen, and then cover the approaching horsemen with a hail of bullets.
Especially around fortified areas.
Nobunaga was master of guns and master of terrain. He would simply place his gunmen at strategic choke points, protect them with spearmen, and then cover the approaching horsemen with a hail of bullets.
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nightmarexnxnxnxnx ONLINE (12/26/2015) [-]
That is what I was saying. Cavalry that got destroyed by riflemen formations usually was not equipped to deal with them at range. On the other hand, horsemen equipped with bows usually won out against riflemen.
The problem is with this matchup that it takes immense amount of practice to ride a horse and be accurate enough with a bow at the same time, whereas using and reloading a gun is something even levied peasants could learn how to do quickly.
Also, I was talking about a battlefield scenario. In a scenario of siege combat, horse archers are useless, as they don't have enough room to maneuver properly. Doesn't change the fact bowmen will still win out against riflemen in that time era, which is why samurai were still in use even in the time of gunpowder based weapons.
This all however changed when rifles became too advanced for bowmen to keep up with, leading to abolishing usage of bows in warfare by everyone excluding traditionalists.
The problem is with this matchup that it takes immense amount of practice to ride a horse and be accurate enough with a bow at the same time, whereas using and reloading a gun is something even levied peasants could learn how to do quickly.
Also, I was talking about a battlefield scenario. In a scenario of siege combat, horse archers are useless, as they don't have enough room to maneuver properly. Doesn't change the fact bowmen will still win out against riflemen in that time era, which is why samurai were still in use even in the time of gunpowder based weapons.
This all however changed when rifles became too advanced for bowmen to keep up with, leading to abolishing usage of bows in warfare by everyone excluding traditionalists.
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donbionicle (12/24/2015) [-] Hmm, that's good. Why, that's very good! Yes, I like that!
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sgtmajjohnson ONLINE (12/24/2015) [-] Well, that war would've been over very quickly. They were bringing in troop's from what could just be called the most OP universe in history.
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alexandervascus (12/25/2015) [-] As DarKAng stated, Macross, by a huge ******* margin. That still scares me beyond belief. The Tyranids are ******* roaches compared to the Vajra. Space Marines can't even hope to be as strong as a Zentraedi (we're talking about an alien race of humanoids that could literally sit on a Carnifex and kill it) Not to mention they have power armor that can ******* make escape velocity than any Assault Marine could hope to achieve (Pre-Heresy ones were capable I think, but they still wouldn't do jack **** )
When your basic ship could literally one shot anything from end of the ****** out the other and it could continue going technically forever but they put a dissipation harness so it doesn't hit some poor inhabited planet of not-fuccbois. The only true weakness the Macross universe has is a lack of full surface energy shields, they have point defense barriers which are like pretty much impossible to penetrate shields with the exception of firepower akin to what was previously mentioned of universe ******* firepower.
I still say 40k has a damn good chance due to most of the faction's blatant disregard for tactics and casualties. Let's not forget the immorality of exploitation of its citizens (like entire worlds being used for breeding for the sole purpose of more soldiers).
When your basic ship could literally one shot anything from end of the ****** out the other and it could continue going technically forever but they put a dissipation harness so it doesn't hit some poor inhabited planet of not-fuccbois. The only true weakness the Macross universe has is a lack of full surface energy shields, they have point defense barriers which are like pretty much impossible to penetrate shields with the exception of firepower akin to what was previously mentioned of universe ******* firepower.
I still say 40k has a damn good chance due to most of the faction's blatant disregard for tactics and casualties. Let's not forget the immorality of exploitation of its citizens (like entire worlds being used for breeding for the sole purpose of more soldiers).
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alexandervascus (12/25/2015) [-] I actually warrant Chaos as the biggest threat due to it being psychological in nature, their firepower is nothing to sneeze at but it is still inferior to UN Spacy and its PMC allies. Humanity in Macross has a tradition of winning fights through culture and song and not in reality tearing firepower. Albeit they generally incorporate both, nothing says surrender like a 85% your fleet getting one shot by a small vessel. I think Chaos has the capability to get Humanity to turn on itself just like it did to the Imperium. I've had these discussions a lot with other people, we always project that Macross wins but heavily damaged from in-fighting and general attrition.
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alexandervascus (12/25/2015) [-] Warlord Class Titans have the firepower of what is effectively multiple nuclear detonations. As powerful as Titans are, they can't hit targets star systems away. Macross Cannons fire once and there's a perfect hole straight through your planet. They wipe out entire fleets in a single shot. Not even the Imperial Navy had that level of firepower, it takes weeks to fully exterminatus a planet and expose its core. Then they're using Cyclonic Torpedos that need a helping hand to reach the core as aforementioned. What I mentioned was, the casualties would be high on both sides due to the technological superiority of the UN Spacy, and the blatant disregard for casualties of the Imperium.
Macross Class vessels are effectively larger stronger and more agile space flying titans that double as aircraft carriers (The Quarter is about the size of a Warhound and its 1/4th the size of other Battle class Macross)
UN Spacy ground forces Destroids are mechs that have insane amounts of missiles, laser cannons and fusion warhead v-finned smart shells. Despite this, I'm entirely certain they'd lose to 40k ground forces (sheer ******* numbers and possibility of corruption from Chaos)
Plus, Destroids are rarely used as an invasion force, they generally just magnetically clamp to ships as extra turrets.
Macross Class vessels are effectively larger stronger and more agile space flying titans that double as aircraft carriers (The Quarter is about the size of a Warhound and its 1/4th the size of other Battle class Macross)
UN Spacy ground forces Destroids are mechs that have insane amounts of missiles, laser cannons and fusion warhead v-finned smart shells. Despite this, I'm entirely certain they'd lose to 40k ground forces (sheer ******* numbers and possibility of corruption from Chaos)
Plus, Destroids are rarely used as an invasion force, they generally just magnetically clamp to ships as extra turrets.
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alexandervascus (12/25/2015) [-] Ammunition is not used, fusion reactor tovarich, infinite energy.
But yes, if ammunition were a factor, good ******* luck. It's the god damn guard, standard issue equipment is a set of titanium testicles blessed by the Emperor himself.
But yes, if ammunition were a factor, good ******* luck. It's the god damn guard, standard issue equipment is a set of titanium testicles blessed by the Emperor himself.
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Bluemistake ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-] Since we're doing the dumbass argument of "my fictional characters are stronger than their fictional characters"
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aisforawsome (12/25/2015) [-] Challenge Accepted.
The Culture, Ancient Halo, Dr. Who, The Xeelee Sequence, High-Tier Star Trek, Most Comic Universes...
The Culture, Ancient Halo, Dr. Who, The Xeelee Sequence, High-Tier Star Trek, Most Comic Universes...
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angrycatisangry (12/25/2015) [-]
Did someone say spacebattles?
BECAUSE I THOUGHT SOMEONE SAID SPACEBATTLES
BECAUSE I THOUGHT SOMEONE SAID SPACEBATTLES
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aisforawsome (12/25/2015) [-] There are two tiers to ancient halo, the Forerunners and Ancient Humanity, then the Precursors. Forerunners were high galactic, and had many feats far above anything in modern 40k, but ancient 40k would still be better. The Precursors were extra galactic, and are older than the universe.
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angelious (12/25/2015) [-] well if they are universal then as a collective race they should be able to stomp. the emperor and the 4 chaos gods might prove some trouble to the forerunners(preheresy emperor) but in the end i think they should take it....most likely..i dont know enough about them to say if they would be able to harm the four chaos gods...
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deadmeathere (12/25/2015) [-] Dr.Who.... oh my.....can't belive its a something coz so **** .
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internetexplain (12/25/2015) [-] idk man I'd say stargate is a solid bet.
especially if you consider the Replicators assimilating any kind of Ancients / Orai tech.
especially if you consider the Replicators assimilating any kind of Ancients / Orai tech.
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angelious (12/25/2015) [-] dndexplain
fine then...
saint seya,dc,marvel,wildstorm,doctor who,digimon,pokemon(arceus alone is enough) ff5 ff14 ff3 ff8, ttgl,image comics,top tiers from mario verse, noein,rick and morty with enough prep, marinefold series, tenchi myuo and just about anybody that has casual universal or higher characters or has an omnipotent creator..something that 40k lacks.
all these verses have people who can quite easily destroy 40k universe my dearest dndxplain. if we wish to talk about actually "broken" or even "the most broken" series then we have dc comics and marvel comics, both of wich has characters that consider the idea of an infinite amount of multiverses to be just an insignificant spec of dust. another good combatant for it would be valiant series, who still falls sort because its only stake to this is the valiant solar man of the atom...whom is actually among the strongest established fictional creatures alongside lucifer preretkon beyonder and ca supes...
hope that helped old friend.
fine then...
saint seya,dc,marvel,wildstorm,doctor who,digimon,pokemon(arceus alone is enough) ff5 ff14 ff3 ff8, ttgl,image comics,top tiers from mario verse, noein,rick and morty with enough prep, marinefold series, tenchi myuo and just about anybody that has casual universal or higher characters or has an omnipotent creator..something that 40k lacks.
all these verses have people who can quite easily destroy 40k universe my dearest dndxplain. if we wish to talk about actually "broken" or even "the most broken" series then we have dc comics and marvel comics, both of wich has characters that consider the idea of an infinite amount of multiverses to be just an insignificant spec of dust. another good combatant for it would be valiant series, who still falls sort because its only stake to this is the valiant solar man of the atom...whom is actually among the strongest established fictional creatures alongside lucifer preretkon beyonder and ca supes...
hope that helped old friend.
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angelious (12/25/2015) [-] "GOD" doesnt mean anything in fiction.
god could be anything from the kami of dbz(planetary level) to the presence of dc(high end omniversal)
the emperor is around star system level to galaxy level in dc and dura, with some nice haxes.
everybody in this list is casually above universal to multiversal. thus they could quite easily just rolf stomp the entire warhammer universe.
god could be anything from the kami of dbz(planetary level) to the presence of dc(high end omniversal)
the emperor is around star system level to galaxy level in dc and dura, with some nice haxes.
everybody in this list is casually above universal to multiversal. thus they could quite easily just rolf stomp the entire warhammer universe.
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greatgranpapy (12/25/2015) [-] We call that noblebright 40k. Imagine: The Imperium has plenty of alien vassal states and climbing technology and is in a triple alliance with the Tau Empire and Eldar Craftworlds and they actively work with each other and at least respect each other if not feel genuine friendship.
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sgtmajjohnson ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-] Compared to basically anything. 40k was basically created as the OP universe. Unless you include like the DCU and Marvel comics and **** , because with characters like the Presence, nothing can really top it.
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angelious (12/25/2015) [-] >>#36, 40k isnt really that op when it comes down to it. it doesnt even hold any universal or multiversal characters. the best it has is god emperor, and even he at his best falls short to mid to high low tier reality warpers in the grand scheme of things.
anyway, you shouldnt gauge the worth of your series by how strong or weak it is..that sort of cancerous behaviour is unbecoming of one such as you
anyway, you shouldnt gauge the worth of your series by how strong or weak it is..that sort of cancerous behaviour is unbecoming of one such as you
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sgtmajjohnson ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-] Oh, no, I totally agree. I've had several posts arguing how stupid it is to compare fiction on the basis of the character's strength. By that logic, To Kill a Mockingbird would be worse than even the ********* comic book. I can just make up a character who's totally invulnerable and can kill any number of any being instantly with his mind. That doesn't make him a good character.
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angelious (12/25/2015) [-] true.
i myself do enjoy debating in vs threads to a certain extent. and talking about different strong universes and such...but i do hate the mentality some people have that if their favourite fiction isnt the strongest, then it aint worth a jack **** . the logic behind it just baffles me to no end.
i myself do enjoy debating in vs threads to a certain extent. and talking about different strong universes and such...but i do hate the mentality some people have that if their favourite fiction isnt the strongest, then it aint worth a jack **** . the logic behind it just baffles me to no end.
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sgtmajjohnson ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-] Yeah, the thing is, it's interesting to compare so long as there's a fight. Sharing similar universes can help as well, like say... Star Wars vs Halo or the Avengers vs the Justice League.
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sgtmajjohnson ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-] That's true; like the Presence vs the Creator. Their abilities are so unclear because they're so OP.
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angelious (12/25/2015) [-] yh. two omnipotent characters. you cant debate those since even in the world of comic books it would be a logical fallacy from the get go. then again with **** like pre retkon beyonder and valiant solar it actually devolves into same sort of mess since both of their feats are properly incalculable and near indistinguishable from omnipotents.
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megatrollinator (12/24/2015) [-] サムライベイダー忘れてはいけません (Translation: Don't forget about Samurai Vader)
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spacekraken (01/03/2016) [-] This is dumb. There's nothing of darth vader left, just some leather-clad slut with two lightsabers.
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anon (12/24/2015) [-] Storm Troopers are apparently now Pre Heresy World Eaters with Charlie Brown's mouth drawn on their helmets.
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sudminator ONLINE (12/25/2015) [-] Xenos with lighsabers.............just when I think I saw everything the internet has to offer
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Silver Quantum (12/25/2015) [-] i know it's off topic but i wanna give a shout-out and a merry christmas to everyone spending christmas alone, browsing fj. remember you are never truly alone around here
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gladiacelt (12/25/2015) [-] Thanks mate, and to you too. I'm not alone per say, i'm living with my uncle, but we wish you and everyone who's spending it alone a happy time and a merry christmas. 
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fralvar (12/25/2015) [-] Why use bolters and power armors when you fight agaist the most powerfull, awesome and inteligent Force user in history? Hail Drath Binks
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iamchicken (12/25/2015) [-]
Aww yiss 40k.
But i have a problem with the storm trooper.
The Galactic Empire insignia has a Chaos star around it but also has Imperium Aquila wings and purity seals. This bothers me.
But i have a problem with the storm trooper.
The Galactic Empire insignia has a Chaos star around it but also has Imperium Aquila wings and purity seals. This bothers me.
